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Come Hell or High Water: A Handbook on Collective Process Gone Awry

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Come Hell or High Water: A Handbook on Collective Process Gone Awry helps individuals navigate the world of egalitarian, directly democratic groups. From their experiences working with egalitarian and anarchist organizations, Delfina Vannucci and Richard Singer offer a street-level view of how social relationships and power work. Lessons are learned and hindsight is 20/20,
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Paperback, 120 pages
Published March 1st 2010 by AK Press (first published 2009)
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Tinea
Apr 28, 2010 Tinea rated it it was ok
Recommends it for: those secure in knwoledge of collective process who want some other thoughts
Recommended to Tinea by: gah! so many people who haven't read it yet!
A few chapters of this book were very useful. The authors focus entirely on sharing decision making power within collectives, and on that topic, have some important comments. I appreciated their insistence on egalitarian decision making regardless of collective members' differing abilities, pressing time conflicts (like jobs, childcare), and knowledge bases. They deconstructed the meritocracy that builds into a lot of collectively organized projects, wherein a few members know how everything wor ...more
Ryan
Aug 15, 2012 Ryan rated it it was amazing
I thought this book was awesome. It's a very practical intro. I'm not sure what all the other reviewers were expecting. It's pretty clear that it's about collective processes when they break down - it's right in the title! Without having spent overwhelming amounts of time inside collectives, I'd still say I've personally experienced every example covered in the book. It's probably more interesting to those who've been in collectives for a while. It might be a bit meaningless/weird to folks who h ...more
Ariel Bourque
Oct 10, 2015 Ariel Bourque rated it liked it
There were bleak moments when reading, though the general message was to install the idea of fair and equal treatment, while avoiding potholes of bad human behavior and toxic relationships that can pop up in a collective. I understand egalitarian principles and freedom of speech, as well as the importance to understand where people's problematic language stems from, yet, I don't think it's a problem to make a person remain concerned about whether or not their words will harm others based on gend ...more
AnnaMarie
Jun 15, 2010 AnnaMarie rated it liked it
Great topic, good organization of the material, amusing little cartoons highlighting different sections of the text. Discussion is a bit shallow in places, but this book is a pretty good intro to the frustrations of collective processes, at least in current usage in the US. (Extra points for the handy pocket size!)
Rachel
Sep 14, 2013 Rachel rated it liked it
Overall this is a pretty solid handbook. It explained a lot of the negative behaviors I have seen in activist scenes and collectives and their interconnectedness, as well as how to possibly deal with these problems.

But I was troubled by what was said about race, gender, and other marginalized group identifications. The authors seem to imply that being accused of an "ism" is on par or worse than being the victim of oppression. For example, the authors say that often accusations of sexism and rac
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abclaret
Apr 24, 2011 abclaret rated it liked it
Shelves: anarchism
I was tickled recently to find climate camp spent five days trying to reach a consensus over whether to disband. Along with an overdrawn practice to the point of tedium, consensus has hand signals that work in tandem with the process that are, has someone put it, ‘alienating culty s**t’. So after a little grating I was pleased to discover this book was not about consensus but rather the methodology behind egalitarian decision making, democratic and otherwise.

Some people have complained about the
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James
Feb 19, 2010 James rated it it was ok
I was really disappointed with this book. It's waaay waaay too negative and comes off like a long rant against something bad that happened to the authors. It really comes off as black and white, where there is good collective members with no hidden intentions and just purity of heart and power-hungry bad collective members.

It also basically just says that everyone's got to deal with each other, and if there's a single person that is driving everyone else crazy, then they have to suck it up and d
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Spicy T AKA Mr. Tea
I started this a while ago and set it down. I would have probably been eager to finish it 7+ years ago when I lived in Chicago or Boston and collective, consensus process was brand new. After reading half the book, things get repetitive. This small book is all about bad process, how to recognize it, and perhaps do something about it. Great for folks new to collective/consensus process and certainly interesting for veterans of collective process, but it would have been nice if they had changed ta ...more
LogPoes
Feb 05, 2012 LogPoes rated it liked it
Reading this was a mixed pleasure: on one hand, it completely confirmed that the collective I worked at was Le Forked Up and if anyone ever asks why I quit activism, I'll just give them this book instead of going off on a blood pressure enhancing rant; on the other hand it depressed the fork out of me, and has made me realise that I'm not willing to do this activisty group process thing any time soon. In which "any time soon" most likely means "ever again".

I did love the size, the layout, the pa
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Broadsnark
Jun 08, 2015 Broadsnark rated it it was ok
I really wanted to give it 2.5 stars. It had useful info about where collectives go terribly wrong. But often it came across like a bitching session or payback for one of the authors being pariahs in a collective. And, in trying to point out the problems that can occur when a group overcompensates for historical privilege, they came across like people who pay too little attention to it.
Katelyn
May 24, 2011 Katelyn rated it really liked it
While the book seems to focus only on the negative aspects of collectives and intentional communities, I found it very helpful for putting a collective back on track when our processes and community went completely awry. It walks through ways to ensure that all voices are heard and ways that conflicts can be brought to the surface and resolved so that the collective can move beyond conflict.
Graybird
Dec 31, 2010 Graybird rated it it was ok
Shelves: anarchism
Maybe I'm just burnt-out on radicalism, but I found this book so boring that I couldn't get more than halfway through, and I only got that far because I was at work and had nothing better to do. I will echo other people's concerns about this book, as I found that it seems to come from a sorta privileged, do-or-don't, justice-system-reminiscent place. Bad scene.
Graydon
May 14, 2014 Graydon rated it it was ok
A mess of a book about the profoundly messy corners of collective process. If nothing else, useful to disabuse anyone of fantasies that their collective will be easy to organize, govern, or even maintain happy relations within.
Sarah
Dec 22, 2012 Sarah rated it it was ok
I needed more examples on tactics that worked. I had high hopes but a lot of the stuff just seemed unrealistic.
Emily
Nov 22, 2011 Emily rated it really liked it
Recommended to Emily by: NYC 2010 anarchist book fair
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Jan 05, 2016 Di-ay rated it it was ok
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Liz
Mar 02, 2014 Liz rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Must own.
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