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N'espérez pas vous débarrasser des livres

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A la veille de l'arrivée sur tous les marchés du monde des nouvelles générations de livres électroniques, deux grands érudits et bibliophiles s'interrogent sur l'avenir du livre.
Paperback, 330 pages
Published October 14th 2009 by Grasset (first published May 1st 2009)
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Fionnuala
I was on a very rare visit to Foyle’s bookshop on Charing Cross Road in London earlier this year when I came across this book. One of the greatest pleasures of a real bookshop for me is finding something I'm not looking for. It's so much more exciting than putting a previously chosen list of titles into an online basket and clicking on checkout. As a faithful reader of paper and ink books in this age of of e-readers (and when I mistyped ‘book’ just now, my computer offered me ‘nook’, ‘iBook’ and ...more
Amir
بیایید طرح جلد افتضاح کتاب رو فراموش کنیم و بریم سراغ اصل مطلب
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همیشه تاسف میخوردم که استعداد پنج ستاره دادن به کتابها را رو از دست دادم، اما بالاخره چیزی که میخواستم پیدا شد. یک کتاب هیجانانگیز و باور نکردنی. کتابی که غیرممکنه عاشق کتاب باشی و عاشقش نشی. دیگه چی بهتر از اینکه دو تا کتابباز کهنهکار بشینن کنار هم و برای همدیگه از عشقشون حرف بزنن؟ دو نفر که دیوانهن و امبرتو اکو دیوانهتر. عشق امبرتو اکو جمع کردن کتابهای خطیای هست که موضوعشون عقاید باطل و بیخود هست. هر دو تای این دیوانه هم عاشق تاریخ
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Hossein
Jan 05, 2016 Hossein rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
با خواندن اين كتاب مگر مي توان حسادت نورزيد؟
دو نفر كه به شدت دوستدار كتاب هستند و از طرفي هم مجموعه داراني بزرگ.
تقريبا در اين كتاب از هر دري صحبت به ميان مي آيد و اكو و كرير اطلاعات نامحدودشان را به رخ خواننده مي كشند.
اونجايي كه اكو ميگه پنجاه هزار جلد و كرير هم ميگه چهل هزار جلد كتاب دارم سرگيجه ي خفيفي بهم دست داد.
در كل كتاب بسيار جذابي بود و لذت بردم.
MJ Nicholls
This engaging confab between one famous novelist and one unfamous screenwriter provides much engagement for its number of pages. These two chaps understand the bibliophile’s obsession and the importance of the book as an artefact and piece of art. The confab avoids the usual book v. e-reader debates (“I can highlight passages on my kindle!” the idiots shriek), and focuses on literary and historical arcana. Perfect between-book fodder.
Mahdie Bjr
Apr 24, 2015 Mahdie Bjr rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
كتاب خيلي عالي! ترجمه هم خيلي خوووب! :-)
Peycho Kanev
Jun 20, 2012 Peycho Kanev rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
"The book is like the spoon: once invented, it cannot be bettered". (Eco)

Contrary to the title, this is not a book in the conventional sense but a conversation on books between polymath and screenwriter that was "curated" by a third party.
Eco and Carriere exchange insider information about book collecting. You can find the occasional bargain, Eco says. “In America, a book in Latin won’t interest the collectors even if it’s terribly rare, because they don’t read foreign languages, and definitely
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Mohammad
Dec 24, 2015 Mohammad rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
اومبرتو اكو و ژان كلود كرير از هر چيز كه به كتاب ربط دارد صحبت مي كنند.با شناختي كه از اكو داشتم فكر مي كردم بيشتر بار گفت و گو بر دوش او است.ولي از همان اول كرير صحبت را در دست مي گيرد و تقريبا تا آخر كتاب اين وضع ادامه مي يابد.
و سوالي كه شايد هر كتابخواني آخر كتاب از خود بپرسد:يعني من هم وقتي مثل اكو و كرير پير شدم، آنقدر ها كتاب خوانده ام كه بتوانم ساعت ها در موردشان صحبت كنم و از هر دري سخني براي گفتن داشته باشم؟

كتابخانه تا حدي مثل يك مصاحب،يا گروهي از دوستان و افراد زنده است.هر گاه خود را ك
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Bach Tran Quang
Feb 04, 2014 Bach Tran Quang rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
:) Một buổi đối thoại tuyệt vời của hai học giả, những người chơi sách có tiếng. Chỉ đọc cuốn sách này thôi mà đã có bao nhiêu điều muốn tìm hiểu thêm. Quả là "tửu phùng tri kỷ thiên bôi thiếu, ý bất tâm đầu bán cú đa". Ngồi nghe 2 ngài này chém gió chắc cả ngày vẫn không thấy chán. Từ việc gặp những cuốn sách tri kỷ, gìn giữ những nét văn hoá, sách trải qua các thời kỳ kiểm duyệt bằng lửa thiêu thế nào, cho đến những cuốn sách chưa bgio đọc, những thư viện gia đình và việc trả lời những câu hỏi ...more
Tuệ Trần
Việc đầu tiên là hai vị này không bàn về cái Ipad như trên bìa: đây là một thất vọng cực lớn.

Đứng trên danh nghĩa một người sưu tầm sách (hạng bét bèn bẹt), đoạn trường kỳ đối thoại của Eco và Carrière khá thú vị đối với tôi, vì có nhiều đoạn tôi thấy mình lọt trong đó.

Ví dụ như đoạn một ông nọ bay từ Mễ Latin qua đến Pháp để đàm phán mua một cuốn sách cổ, tốn hết 3 ngày 3 đêm thì mua được, đoạn trở về thì ông nọ để quên cuốn sách ở trên máy bay, và ông này chả thấy nó quan trọng lắm. Cái thú
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Maryam
Apr 08, 2015 Maryam rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
کتاب مهم همیشه زنده می ماند با ما بزرگ می شود و با ما پیر می شود و هرگز نمی میرد.زمان بارورش می سازد و تغییرش می دهد در حالیکه که کتابهای بی اهمیت به حاشیه تاریخ می روند و محو می شوند.
Ştefan Bolea
Although being a major fan of both Carriere and Eco, I found their tone too nostalgic and reactionary. I expected to hear more about ebook readers & "digital cosmology". Perhaps if the late Baudrillard and Zizek had met and started to talk about books, the rhythm and content of the discussion would have been much more spectacular.
Arghya Dutta
This book is a collection of conversations about books in general. It discusses the book as a media, the fate of books in this age of internet, the passion of book collecting and many other interesting topics. Though I don't like many erroneous, or more accurately racist(!), comments made by Carriere, not Eco, about Asiatic cultures which are scattered in the book (for example, some ideas are understanable by only some races, an Indian will never grasp the idea of concept!), the book reads very ...more
Tieu uyen
Đúng là bị cái tên Eco nó làm cho mờ mắt, mua xong cắm cúi đọc. Đọc xong mới thấy, anh zai Eco già rồi, toàn nói nhăng. Chán ốm. Ngoài chuyện các anh zai có tuổi không còn trẻ khoe với nhau bộ sưu tập sách cổ, rồi sưu tập thế nào, kiếm ở đâu, kiếm dư lào, thì thi thoảng có xen vào chuyện ibook, ebook này nọ nhưng nói chung là nhạt, nhạt toẹt í. À thêm chuyện lâu lâu xách mé anh Dan Brown 1 tí, nói về trung cổ 1 tí, thì chả khác gì nghe các cụ già vỉa hè ngồi hút thuốc lào uống nước chè tán láo. ...more
Mar_yamane
خب به نظرم همهی آدمکتابیها، کتاببازها، کتابخرها، کتابخونها و و و باید این کتابو بخونند.
چرا؟
چون این تو دربارهی هر چیزی که به نحوی به کتاب ربط داشته باشه، حرف هست. از پیدایش کتاب گرفته تا نسل جدید ایبوکها، از کتابخونهداری تا چی بخونیم/چی نخونیم/ چرا بخونیم و و و
به همهی اینها اگه اضافه کنید دیوونهبازیهای اکو رو، اون وقت لازم میشه این کتاب رو آدم قورت بده، نه که فقط بخونه.
چون تا الان هزارتا ریویو براش نوشتم، بهتر از این نمیشد بنویسیم دربارهش.
اصلا عنوان کتاب با آدم حرف میزنه. میشه نخوندش؟
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Данило Судин
Це книжка-інтерв’ю трьох чоловіків, один з який задає питання, а двоє - відповідають або говорять між собою. Подекуди складається відчуття, що вони собі добре так випивають і не дуже переймаються тим, що їхні слова прочитає хтось четвертий. Тому деколи розмова відходить дуже далеко від початкової теми, деколи до цього її спонукає ввічливість: "Умберто, ти почав говорити про історію колеса, але я тебе перебив розповіддю про перше видання Мольєра. То розкажи ж нам про колесо, благаю! - Будь ласка, ...more
Arun Divakar
Jul 15, 2012 Arun Divakar rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I sometimes rummage through the racks of the New Arrivals section of my library just to get a kick out of books which I have never before heard of. In one such expedition and upon reading Eco's name, I turned this book around to read the back jacket blurb. One single line made me decide that I wanted to read this book The book is the like the spoon, the hammer or a wheel which once invented cannot be bettered. And so I began my sessions with Umberto Eco and Jean Claude Carriere.

Having never h
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Per Gunnar
May 25, 2013 Per Gunnar rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This book is so far from my normal reading that it could just as well be some alien scribblings from another galaxy … and I loved every minute of reading it. It is also something as exotic as a old-fashioned paper book. You know, the kind that uses sheets made out of vegetable material with something called ink on each sheet. It is a lot thicker than a tablet and there is no built in light thus you cannot read it in front of the telly or in a otherwise dark room. My father tells me that this is ...more
Ahmad Sharabiani
N’espérez pas vous débarrasser des livres, Umberto Eco, Jean-Claude Carriere, Jean-Philippe de Tonnac
عنوان: از کتاب رهایی نداریم؛ پدیدآورنده ها: اومبرتو اکو؛ ژان کلود کریر؛ به سعی: ژان فلیپ دو توناک؛ برگردان: مهستی بحرینی؛ مشخصات نشر: تهران، نیلوفر، 1389، در 308 ص، شابک: 9789644484711؛ موضوع: مصاحبه با ژان-کلود کاریر 1931 م؛ مصاحبه با اومبرتو اکو 1932 م، جنبه های اجتماعی کتاب، کتاب و مواد خواندنی
اگر کتاب الکترونیکی، سرانجام با کنارزدن کتاب چاپی خود را تحمیل کند، باز دلیلی وجود ندارد که بگوییم می
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mohsen pourramezani
{امبرتو اکو} احترام به نوشته و بعدها کتاب، قدمتی برابر قدمت خط دارد. (ص 33)
ژان فیلیپ دوتوناک (نویسندهی کتاب) یک روز با امبرتو اکو (نویسنده) و ژان کلود کریر (فیلمنامهنویس) دورهمی نشستهاند و دربارهی کتاب گپ زدهاند و حاصلش شده این کتاب
به نظرم کتاب خوبی و جذابی است به خصوص اگر یک خورهی کتاب باشید.
برایم جالب بود که ژان کلود کریر اطلاعات خوبی در مورد تاریخ ایران داشت البته بعدا فهمیدم پدرزنش ایرانی است.

ترجمه کتاب خوب و روان است اما به نظرم یکی دو جا در زیرنویس توضیحاتِ مترجم اضافه و حتی گمراه کننده
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Steffi
Kürzlich war in den Zeitungen zu lesen, dass Amazon erstmals mehr E-Books als „richtige“ Bücher verkauft habe. Da graut einem vor der Zukunft. Werden bald E-Books in so hoher und die eigentlichen Bücher in so niedriger Stückzahl verkauft, dass nur noch E-Books erschwinglich sind und andere Ausgaben nur noch etwas für den altmodischen, nach Möglichkeit gut betuchten, Buchliebhaber? Gelten Menschen, die in Wohnungen mit langen Bücherregalen leben bald als etwas sonderlich, wenn nicht ungesund? Sch ...more
Bastet
Este libro es un poco tramposo, se vende como lo que no es, porque el escritor y periodista francés Jean-Philippe de Tonnac no entrevista a Jean-Claude Carrière y a Umberto Eco, sino que se limita a moderar un debate entre dos bibliófilos; debate donde cada uno de los oradores intenta arrimar el ascua a su sardina: Umberto se explaya hablando básicamente de sus libros y Carrière remite una y otra vez a sus películas (por cierto, el francés "chupa más cámara" que el italiano). Ambos demuestran un ...more
Evelyn
Nov 03, 2014 Evelyn rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I so enjoyed this book. Loved the tongue in cheek title, loved the cover, loved listening in on the conversation between these two men whom I must admit I had never previously heard of.

This conversation touched on technology, the internet, book burnings and censorship, collections, publishing history, stupidity, film, ancient civilizations, and how to talk about books you've never read. There are personal anecdotes, statistics, and opinions. There are ideas that gave me aha moments. Some of my
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Ivan Bogdanov
Oct 05, 2015 Ivan Bogdanov rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Много приятно книжле и ми дойде точно на време. Четеше ми се нещо интелектуално. Много приятен разговор на високо ниво между двамата титани, макар че определено си личи как са се мъчили да го направят по-разбираем за другите. От самите бележки под линия научих още толкова. Част от темите съм ги обсъждал с други, за част от нещата изобщо не бях мислил. Мен лично книгата ми беше много полезна, насочи ми мисълта в правилна насока.
Не с всичко съм съгласен, за някои неща не бяха съвсем прави, а за др
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Anna
Feb 15, 2015 Anna rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Reading ‘This Is Not the End of the Book’ is an experience akin to sitting in an armchair tucked away in the corner of a drawing room lined with books, eavesdropping on two elderly, erudite authors' conversations. The authors in question are Umberto Eco and Jean-Claude Carrière. Although the slip cover states that the two of them are discussing ‘our digital future’, this is wholly inaccurate. Although the two do touch on how the internet is changing censorship, publishing, etc, they have no grea ...more
Kimmo Sinivuori
Aug 20, 2014 Kimmo Sinivuori rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The book is like the wheel once it was invented it could never be given up, Umberto Eco states in this wonderful book. Eco, no introduction needed, and Jean-Claude Carriére, famous French writer, discuss the origins of the book, the importance of the book to civilizations and the fate of the book in the internet era. To read how these two brilliant minds engage in a discussion that is profound, often hilarious, or both at the same, is not only thought provoking but makes one desperately want to ...more
Aasem Bakhshi
If culture is an extended process of selection and filtering, then are the books which can be thought of cultural vehicles - the one in our hands so to speak - the best or worst representation of times gone by? Are the ancient classics we indulge in are truly the best cultural products of their times? Are books the best possible means of expression since antiquity? What about the prehistoric times? Can all the modern wonders of technology, the ever evolving digital media formats, can surpass the ...more
Liviu
seems to be a must for any book lover

read 1/2 and I would just put this quote for now:

"J.-C. C.
Fifteen years ago there was a movement of American writers who protested against the computer on the grounds that because early drafts of a text appeared onscreen already in typeface, they possessed an innate authority that made them harder to analyse or correct. The screen gave them the dignity and status of a text that was already almost published. Another school, on the other hand, believed – like y
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Michelle
Nov 04, 2012 Michelle rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
A thoroughly enjoyable book for readers interested in literary theory, philosophy, academics or cultural studies. I digested this book over 3 sittings, and was deeply saddened to have run out of pages. The conversation is engaging and insightful while delving into topics bridging knowledge, culture, and technology with various anecdotes about Eco and Carriere's personal interests and experience. While admitted bibliophiles, Eco and Carriere seriously investigate the purpose, strength and limits ...more
Tim Poston
Jan 25, 2014 Tim Poston rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
There are so many joys in this book -- hard to characterise.

One quick one is the names, which don't so much drop as go off like fireworks. "When Borges came to visit me in 1976, or 1977,..." isn't a brag, it sets up a splendid point about Borges. "When Buñuel and I went to Mexico to write a script..."
I've met people with names worth dropping. I've sat around a table that included Richard Feynman, and felt live awe at the smarts he displayed (not just his Nobel prize, which he didn't). But, wow
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Psychophant
Feb 27, 2010 Psychophant rated it liked it
Shelves: reviewed, non-fiction
This is a book about books, or rather, a series of reflections and anecdotes from two amusing savants. It is a treasure trove for lovers of trivia, and an amusing, if forgettable read.

The main disadvantage is that the two authors that engage in dialogue tend to agree on most things, from baroque poets to internet's effect on publishing, so there is no real debate, no conflict of ideas. That surely helps to make it easier to forget the details, even if most of the time you are nodding agreement.

A
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