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A la veille de l'arrivée sur tous les marchés du monde des nouvelles générations de livres électroniques, deux grands érudits et bibliophiles s'interrogent sur l'avenir du livre.
Paperback, 330 pages
Published October 14th 2009 by Grasset (first published January 2009)
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Fionnuala
I was on a very rare visit to Foyle’s bookshop on Charing Cross Road in London earlier this year when I came across this book. One of the greatest pleasures of a real bookshop for me is finding something I'm not looking for. It's so much more exciting than putting a previously chosen list of titles into an online basket and clicking on checkout. As a faithful reader of paper and ink books in this age of of e-readers (and when I mistyped ‘book’ just now, my computer offered me ‘nook’, ‘iBook’ and...more
Peycho Kanev
"The book is like the spoon: once invented, it cannot be bettered". (Eco)

Contrary to the title, this is not a book in the conventional sense but a conversation on books between polymath and screenwriter that was "curated" by a third party.
Eco and Carriere exchange insider information about book collecting. You can find the occasional bargain, Eco says. “In America, a book in Latin won’t interest the collectors even if it’s terribly rare, because they don’t read foreign languages, and definitely...more
Arghya Dutta
This book is a collection of conversations about books in general. It discusses the book as a media, the fate of books in this age of internet, the passion of book collecting and many other interesting topics. Though I don't like many erroneous, or more accurately racist(!), comments made by Carriere, not Eco, about Asiatic cultures which are scattered in the book (for example, some ideas are understanable by only some races, an Indian will never grasp the idea of concept!), the book reads very...more
Bach Tran Quang
:) Một buổi đối thoại tuyệt vời của hai học giả, những người chơi sách có tiếng. Chỉ đọc cuốn sách này thôi mà đã có bao nhiêu điều muốn tìm hiểu thêm. Quả là "tửu phùng tri kỷ thiên bôi thiếu, ý bất tâm đầu bán cú đa". Ngồi nghe 2 ngài này chém gió chắc cả ngày vẫn không thấy chán. Từ việc gặp những cuốn sách tri kỷ, gìn giữ những nét văn hoá, sách trải qua các thời kỳ kiểm duyệt bằng lửa thiêu thế nào, cho đến những cuốn sách chưa bgio đọc, những thư viện gia đình và việc trả lời những câu hỏi...more
Ştefan Bolea
Although being a major fan of both Carriere and Eco, I found their tone too nostalgic and reactionary. I expected to hear more about ebook readers & "digital cosmology". Perhaps if the late Baudrillard and Zizek had met and started to talk about books, the rhythm and content of the discussion would have been much more spectacular.
Tieu uyen
Đúng là bị cái tên Eco nó làm cho mờ mắt, mua xong cắm cúi đọc. Đọc xong mới thấy, anh zai Eco già rồi, toàn nói nhăng. Chán ốm. Ngoài chuyện các anh zai có tuổi không còn trẻ khoe với nhau bộ sưu tập sách cổ, rồi sưu tập thế nào, kiếm ở đâu, kiếm dư lào, thì thi thoảng có xen vào chuyện ibook, ebook này nọ nhưng nói chung là nhạt, nhạt toẹt í. À thêm chuyện lâu lâu xách mé anh Dan Brown 1 tí, nói về trung cổ 1 tí, thì chả khác gì nghe các cụ già vỉa hè ngồi hút thuốc lào uống nước chè tán láo....more
Arun Divakar
I sometimes rummage through the racks of the New Arrivals section of my library just to get a kick out of books which I have never before heard of. In one such expedition and upon reading Eco's name, I turned this book around to read the back jacket blurb. One single line made me decide that I wanted to read this book The book is the like the spoon, the hammer or a wheel which once invented cannot be bettered. And so I began my sessions with Umberto Eco and Jean Claude Carriere.

Having never h...more
Steffi
Kürzlich war in den Zeitungen zu lesen, dass Amazon erstmals mehr E-Books als „richtige“ Bücher verkauft habe. Da graut einem vor der Zukunft. Werden bald E-Books in so hoher und die eigentlichen Bücher in so niedriger Stückzahl verkauft, dass nur noch E-Books erschwinglich sind und andere Ausgaben nur noch etwas für den altmodischen, nach Möglichkeit gut betuchten, Buchliebhaber? Gelten Menschen, die in Wohnungen mit langen Bücherregalen leben bald als etwas sonderlich, wenn nicht ungesund? Sch...more
Per Gunnar
This book is so far from my normal reading that it could just as well be some alien scribblings from another galaxy … and I loved every minute of reading it. It is also something as exotic as a old-fashioned paper book. You know, the kind that uses sheets made out of vegetable material with something called ink on each sheet. It is a lot thicker than a tablet and there is no built in light thus you cannot read it in front of the telly or in a otherwise dark room. My father tells me that this is...more
Bastet
Este libro es un poco tramposo, se vende como lo que no es, porque el escritor y periodista francés Jean-Philippe de Tonnac no entrevista a Jean-Claude Carrière y a Umberto Eco, sino que se limita a moderar un debate entre dos bibliófilos; debate donde cada uno de los oradores intenta arrimar el ascua a su sardina: Umberto se explaya hablando básicamente de sus libros y Carrière remite una y otra vez a sus películas (por cierto, el francés "chupa más cámara" que el italiano). Ambos demuestran un...more
Kimmo Sinivuori
The book is like the wheel once it was invented it could never be given up, Umberto Eco states in this wonderful book. Eco, no introduction needed, and Jean-Claude Carriére, famous French writer, discuss the origins of the book, the importance of the book to civilizations and the fate of the book in the internet era. To read how these two brilliant minds engage in a discussion that is profound, often hilarious, or both at the same, is not only thought provoking but makes one desperately want to...more
Liviu
seems to be a must for any book lover

read 1/2 and I would just put this quote for now:

"J.-C. C.
Fifteen years ago there was a movement of American writers who protested against the computer on the grounds that because early drafts of a text appeared onscreen already in typeface, they possessed an innate authority that made them harder to analyse or correct. The screen gave them the dignity and status of a text that was already almost published. Another school, on the other hand, believed – like y...more
Michelle
A thoroughly enjoyable book for readers interested in literary theory, philosophy, academics or cultural studies. I digested this book over 3 sittings, and was deeply saddened to have run out of pages. The conversation is engaging and insightful while delving into topics bridging knowledge, culture, and technology with various anecdotes about Eco and Carriere's personal interests and experience. While admitted bibliophiles, Eco and Carriere seriously investigate the purpose, strength and limits...more
Psychophant
This is a book about books, or rather, a series of reflections and anecdotes from two amusing savants. It is a treasure trove for lovers of trivia, and an amusing, if forgettable read.

The main disadvantage is that the two authors that engage in dialogue tend to agree on most things, from baroque poets to internet's effect on publishing, so there is no real debate, no conflict of ideas. That surely helps to make it easier to forget the details, even if most of the time you are nodding agreement.

A...more
Wayne
I was going to rave on about how much I enjoyed reading this work; then read the comments (just those on the first page) and decided that I could simply refer anyone interested to read the comments of those who rated it with five stars. I agree with their sentiments, and would recommend this book to anyone interested in the subject “books” in the widest meaning of that term. I have previously enjoyed Eco’s works and have read a number of them (some essays as well as his novels), and although I a...more
Zöe Yu
Discovered it in the school bookstore, and found one copy -- hardcover, untouched in library, I was delighted.

It is a nice book, but the dialogue style is not what I am fond of. Some of the topics are superficial. I was waiting for reading something deeper than just a name and a brief introduction. But on the other hand, I did learn a lot from the book.

So, my conclusion is, after this book, it is better for me to go back to novel reading. To talk with the author, not hearing their talks.
Ned Rifle
This is a rather breezy and inconsequential book with no particularly interesting thoughts. I am however grateful for the knowledge that a certain Archbishop (?) declared from the pulpit of Notre-Dame, to a host of returning aristocrats, 'Not only was Jesus the son of God, but he was of good stock on his mother's side too'. Priceless information which earned it an extra star.
Amanda Patterson
I looked forward to this book but found it tedious.
Carrière and Eco converse about the influences of the digital age on the book. They boast about their vast book achievements, ramble on until they decide that the book will continue as it stands or be replaced by something resembling the book.
Am I supposed to take this seriously?
Stela

U.E. …do you know why the Presocratics only wrote fragments? (…) Because they lived in ruins.

I honestly thought (obviously misled by the authors’ names), that This Is Not the End of the Book would refer to types and meanings of different endings. Typical case not only of the reader’s horizon of expectation's contrariness ☺, but also of ambiguity of translation (by the way, I can’t remember why I didn’t buy it in French. Even though the original title is less beautiful, since more precise – Ne p...more
Chris Little
This was an enjoyable read, though it treats quite deep matters in a superficial manner. It is translated excepts from an interview/conversation involving two bibliophiles: Umberto Eco and Jean-Claude Carrière.

In this digital age, with books said to be under threat, they show great confidence that the book will continue. Once invented, the book is like the spoon or the wheel - there's nothing to add to it.

Being originally in French, I know almost nothing of many of the authors named, even the mo...more
Nati
Amo a Umberto Eco... muy claro, muy didactico, tremendamente inteligente. En fin, esas personas con las que uno siente la necesidad de tomar un cafe. Lamentablemente, surgen cuestiones complicadas en lo referente a espacio - tiempo, asi que, debo leerlo. Una entrevista sensacional, sobre la historia del libro, como cosa, no como literatura. Nadie acabara con los libros plantea la incapacidad de mejorar la perfeccion. Para leer: ¿que mejor que un libro? para calentarse ¿que mejor que el fuego?

Se...more
Angel
The only reason I am not rating it higher is because the two authors-- Carriere and Eco-- do have moments when they just ramble on and on. After a while, you might want to skim some parts. But that aside, the book is set up as a conversation between the two authors moderated by Jean-Philippe de Tonnac, and it is worth reading. The two have great insights on all sorts of topics related to books, and even on some topics that may barely touch on books. They talk about books, the Internet, libraries...more
Elizabeth
Though this book has a misleading title, the conversations between Eco and Carriere are a delight to read. Moreover, though Eco and Carriere don't spend much time at all discussing the book's fate, they do discuss their own love of books and their collecting habits. Moreover, they offer well-developed understandings of the codex's history, it's roles in various cultures, and reading overall. Though nothing they say is at all unique, it it all well put and simultaneously entertaining and instruct...more
Tim Poston
There are so many joys in this book -- hard to characterise.

One quick one is the names, which don't so much drop as go off like fireworks. "When Borges came to visit me in 1976, or 1977,..." isn't a brag, it sets up a splendid point about Borges. "When Buñuel and I went to Mexico to write a script..."
I've met people with names worth dropping. I've sat around a table that included Richard Feynman, and felt live awe at the smarts he displayed (not just his Nobel prize, which he didn't). But, wow...more
Leo Robertson
One or two good ideas, masked in a huge pile of pretention. Who curates a conversation ffs?! My copy is annotated with my dad's great comments, which include "crummy" for J.-C.C.'s Vishnu journey through the internet. RU4RL!

Plus, they did very little to argue against the annihilation of the book. It still appears to me that all future paper books will start to dissolve in favour of digital copies, while if you are a book collector you will continue to collect old books... duh.

Here are some alter...more
Al Bità
I was going to rave on about how much I enjoyed reading this work; then read the comments (just those on the first page) and decided that I could simply refer anyone interested to read the comments of those who rated it with five stars. I agree with their sentiments, and would recommend this book to anyone interested in the subject “books” in the widest meaning of that term. I have previously enjoyed Eco’s works and have read a number of them (some essays as well as his novels), and although I a...more
Edwina
Although I was enjoying the banter back and forth, and I understood a lot of their arguments, I didn't feel the need to finish this book. The authors just seemed to go around in circles with their debate about the future of books, looking more to history of the book than anything else.

Maybe I just wasn't in the mood for circular logics, and it may be that I will come around and return to this book and indeed finish what I started.

It was kind of fun, in a geeky sort of way.
David
Happily a brilliant book to read on the train as it is immersible and divided into short segments so you can be distracted by the chap who takes your ticket or the snack cart.
Sadly this also means that there is very little overall narrative and, although I thoroughly enjoyed J-C Carriere and Umberto Eco's discussion, because it reads like listening in on a discussion the book doesn't ever seem to come to a point.
Highly recommend, but not actually earth (or mind) shaking.
Procyon Lotor
�In illo tempore dixit Humbertus discipulis suis proxima disparitione librorum pariter corpus bibliographicum cum retibus substitutione est propositione haeretica captiosa, inducens in errorem, turpe perniciosa schismatica, ordinis hierarchici subversiva, iniuriosa et falsa scandalosa et impia�... :) Se si � abituali lettori degli articoli di Eco (Repubblica/Espresso) il libro non contiene vere novit�. Per� sistematizza nozioni e concetti che Eco ed altri hanno svolto nei decenni. La difesa cont...more
Izumen
Това не е краят на книгите: http://izumen.blogspot.com/2014/06/bl...

Понякога, в различните области на човешкото познание, се раждат титани - хора, които държат света на раменете си, които ни вдъхновяват да се стремим към съвършенство и ни показват пътя към "огъня". Те стоят недостижимо високо, като непреодолимото разстояние между нас и тях не ни смазва (както примерно става със снобите), а ни дава надежда, че все още не сме стигнали, че има на къде да растем. Е, за мен Умберто Еко и Жан-Клод Кар...more
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