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In cosa crede chi non crede?

3.68 of 5 stars 3.68  ·  rating details  ·  624 ratings  ·  38 reviews
Carteggio tra Carlo Maria Martini, ex arcivescovo di Milano e Umberto Eco: contiene delle perle autentiche, riferibili soprattutto a temi di grande profondità trattati con l’acume, la cultura, la franchezza di due autentici giganti del pensiero dei nostri mala tempora.

Con interventi di
Emanuele Severino
Manlio Sgalambro
Eugenio Scalfari
Indro Montanelli
Vittorio Foa
Claudio Mart
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Paperback, Liberal sentieri, 143 pages
Published 1996 by Liberal Libri
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Rebecca
In a time when academia and scholarly religion seems terribly at odds with the living Catholic faith, two men open a dialogue which is indeed a confrontation. They confront however, not each other, but the issues of apocalyptic perspective, abortion, women in the Church, violence and much more. These two men recognize these issues not as polemics to be tossed back and forth for endless bantering, but as fundamental to outlining a definition of "humanity." Both men are scholars and people of fait ...more
Doreen


Definitely thought provoking. Very pleased with how respectful these gentlemen were towards each others beliefs, especially with the hot topics we are experiencing during this election time.
Branche SJ
"The final topic of discussion is an overall belief in God. This time the roles have reversed and Martini questions Eco on the basic ethical foundation of a layman. He asks what a layman bases his moral behavior on, if not a belief in God. Eco informs him that there are forms of religiosity, even in the absence of faith. There are universal conceptions of constraint and believers with an ethical foundation still sin. One who doesn’t believe in God can still make sense of his own life. However, t ...more
Inder
An interesting and respectful little conversation between Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini (a Catholic and scholar) and Umberto Eco (an agnostic who knows more about Catholicism than ... well, practically anyone) about faith and ethics. There were some moments in this little volume when I felt the language was more flowery than it needed to be, while the depth was less than it could have been. And of course the debate is very Catholicism-centered, as you would expect given the debators (other religi ...more
B
I fear that much of this book was over my head as I do not have the sort of religious background these men do and perhaps because of that my rating is not fair. However, due to the title "a confrontation" I expected this book to be an actual debate but instead the men focus on finding common ground, so basically they are holding each other's hand telling each other how great they are the entire book instead of actually putting forth any opinions. What is said in 100 pages could have been said in ...more
Jaime Menéndez
Más que una confrontación, este libro es un diálogo educado -de hecho, muy educado- entre dos personajes de gran renombre en sus respectivos campos. Aclaro: a ambos los conozco mediante referencias de la cultura popular y no por sus escritos. Por lo tanto, la lectura de esta conversación epistolar, publicada originalmente en un periódico italiano, fue un descubrimiento gratificante y enriquecedor, aunque breve (102 páginas, apenas). En estos tiempos, cuando a veces las posiciones religiosas y se ...more
Fabio
Proof that discussion around religion (at least in other latitudes) can be elucidating and even cordial. As usual, Eco draws heavily from european (mostly medieval) history, and Aquinas, to make incisive points, not so much about the non-existence of god, a topic which he is too old to really be arguing like a village atheist, but to reveal the subtleties of doctrine and the historical, cultural, and theological issues of topics like the ordination of women and abortion.

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Sancho
An interesting exchange of letters between Umberto Eco (a secular man) and Carlo Maria Martini (a catholic cardinal), discussing topics that normally divide believers and non-believers.

In most of the book, Eco starts with a question and the cardinal answers it. The conversations are very polite and charged with philosophy and literature. The topics discussed are: the concept of apocalypsis, the beginning of human life, and the roles of men and women in the catholic church. At the end, the cardin
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Ricardo Christe Homsi
Intelectuais italianos de perfil acadêmico são muito parecidos com suas contrapartes brasileiras: executam ocasionalmente pérolas de sabedoria que vale repetir, mas as deixam perdidas em um oceano de hermetismo e citações eruditas. O livro, que se vende como acessível desde a capa, é um diálogo travado por carta sem preocupação com acessibilidade -- são intelectuais travando um debate, limitados pelo espaço de suas missivas na publicação que originalmente os convidou. Eco, particularmente, traz ...more
Jacob
Perhaps better titled "Belief or Nonbelief in Catholicism" as while Eco claims to be a non-believer, the focus is squarely on debating the church's views. The brevity of the dialog makes it very accessible but also doesn't allow for much back and forth. The format is of open letters between Eco and Martini published in a newspaper. Eco opens the dialog with questions for the first three sets of letters. In my view Martini's responses were a bit typical. Essentially, 'there are so many mysteries ...more
Alex Lee
This short book follows the formula of a dialogue between the now secular (once Catholic) Umberto Eco and the Catholic Cardinal Carlo Martini. It it, they ask and answer each other questions dealing with believers and non-believers. The two gentlemen are gentlemen, ever clear, honest and respectful in how they speak to one another and express their views.

One of the greatest flaws people often have in dialogue with others of differing values is that they don't have a framework in which to approac
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Fred Kohn
Honestly, I was disappointed. I expected more from a person with the reputation of Eco. I felt he danced around issues quite a bit. On the other hand, Cardinal Martini was a joy. So, all in all, I'm happy to have read the book. Besides, I learned a great new word: cosmophage; which seems to fit our species perfectly.
♥ Ibrahim ♥
The book is not big but it is full of substance. I am a big fan of Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini. I try to read everything which he wrote and sit at his feel learning the lessons of the Gospel and try to soak them in. He is one of the best people that impressed me with his dialogue with Atheists and Agnostics. Very respectful. A book like this I can read to just learn the art of dialogue and thinking. Each have their convincing reasons for their arguments and each sounds attractive in his own int ...more
María I.
Recopilación de las epístolas o cartas entre Umberto Eco y Carlos María Martini, arzobispo de Milán, exponiendo entonces en el libro cada uno sus puntos de vista sobre varios temas actuales que influyen en diversos aspectos de la vida en el hombre.
Daniela
Great food for thought: unbiased, noncommercial, no non-sense. It can be too much for people used to fortune-cookie styled truths.
Brad Lengen
short and sweet. respectful and intelligent. light-years above typical american dialogue on religion.
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Conrado Villaseñor
This books is really a jewel......it is a epistolary conversation between Eco and Martini who is a cardinal and provides insight into Eco's religion beliefs. It shows Eco and Martini's respect for each other and their great sense of humor, particularly in a topic that becomes easily in a minefield.


Andrew
An enlightening discussion between two cultural heavyweights. As one very familiar with Martini and his viewpoints, and generally sympathetic to them, I especially enjoyed Eco's subtle but at times very thought-provoking explanations of a secularist, realist viewpoint of the world. As many have said, if nothing else, the works is a great testament to the level of civility that is possible for a dialogue between viewpoints that ultimately are not only different but opposed.
Michael Laflamme
I found this book a bit of a disappointment considering the two geniuses that were behind it. The format, a correspondence between the two via the auspices of a newspaper, leaves little room for the the topics to be deeply explored. Each topic by both men is given barely an overview. Points are brought up and then not explored. I would like to see this type of approach in a longer, more thorough format that allows these two great minds to delve into the topics at hand.
Isabel
An interesting book. It presents a not unknown question, beliefs. What to people who say don't belief belief in? It makes you think about ethics, good, bad, normal, expected behaviors and ways of thinking. Showing the similarities and differences between catholics and "non-believers" it's a nice reading to look inside ourselves a bit more. To see more than what we believe in, what makes us believe.
Mark
An excellent example of the possibilities of transcendent dialogue, demonstrating that what seems at times an unbridgeable gap between the religious and the secular can indeed be bridged, respectfully and engagingly. Eco and Martini trade questions and observations at a high level. The introduction even provides a possible answer why this sort of thing seems so impossible in America.
Jose Alfredo
The book is too short for the interesting and relevant issues discussed. Both Eco and the late Cardinal Martini show their impressive intellectual and exegetical skills,although -in my opinion- they're a bit too polite to each other.
Mojtaba Khosravi
بخوانید این کتاب را، بارها و بارها، شاید بیاموزیم که می شود با هم مخالف بود و لی گفتگو کرد ... می شود با هم فرق داشت و ذهن هامان فرسنگ ها از هم دور باشد ولی به یکدیگر احترام گذاشت...می شود به گونه ای دیگر اندیشید.....میشود میشود
Facebrooker
Un libro en el que Carlo Maria M. demuestra cómo los laicos pueden llegar a ser pedantes y los católicos tolerantes... aburrido al principio, toma fuerza a mitad del camino. Un intercambio epistolar digno de ser leído.
PJ Jumonville
Taken from a series of editorials between Eco and Cardinal Martini in a Milan paper, this is the best and most respectful discussion of the nature of faith that I've ever read.
Pasparto
این کتاب دو خوبی دارد، یکی اینکه به ما فرصت می دهد شاهد گفتگویی پر از محبت و احترام باشیم و دیگر نامه آخر امبرتو اکوست که درباره اخلاق است، که فوق العاده جالب و خواندنی است.
Beka Sukhitashvili
ყველა წერილი საინტერესო იყო და რაღაც ახალი გავიგე. განსაკუთრებით მანლიო სგალამბროს სტატია მომეწონა და დიდი სიამოვნებით გავეცნობოდი მის სხვა ნაშრომებსაც.
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