In the Shadow of Gotham (Simon Ziele #1)
Dobson, New York,1905.
Detective Simon Ziele lost his fiancée in the General Slocum ferry disaster—a thousand perished on that summer day in 1904 when an onboard fire burned the boat down in the waters of the East River. Still reeling from the tragedy, Ziele transferred to a police department north of New York, to escape the city and all the memories it conjured.
But only a...more
Detective Simon Ziele lost his fiancée in the General Slocum ferry disaster—a thousand perished on that summer day in 1904 when an onboard fire burned the boat down in the waters of the East River. Still reeling from the tragedy, Ziele transferred to a police department north of New York, to escape the city and all the memories it conjured.
But only a...more
ebook, 400 pages
Published
April 28th 2009
by Minotaur Books
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Apr 04, 2011
Sue
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4 of 5 stars
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Recommends it for:
readers of historical fiction, historical mystery and crime
Ah!! A new historical fiction series for me to enjoy. Set in 1905, this first entry involves a brutal murder in a small town just outside New York city and pulls in a former city policeman who now lives in that community. The reader is treated to a picture of the state of crime-fighting at that time, with wonderful visual pictures of the New York and suburban streets. New methods of understanding criminal behavior are being tested during the search for the killer.
Highly recommended for those who...more
Highly recommended for those who...more
When I started looking for a final book for the Criminal Plots III Reading Challenge (Read a novel that's been nominated for and Edgar in the last five years), I was relieved to find In the Shadow of Gotham by Stefanie Pintoff sitting on my shelves since I'm trying really hard to read more from my own stacks. I'm not much for reading more recent books, but I had picked this one up last May while browsing in our Friends of the Library used book store. It was purely a whim--based on the cover, the...more
I finished In The Shadow of the Gotham late last night, and actually woke first thing in the morning annoyed. It’s not that Stefanie Pinoff is a bad writer. It’s that she’s got talent and then doesn’t use it to advantage.
****Spoilers ahead****
She obviously believes that her protagonist Simon Ziele is an intelligent man; someone worthy of pitting against a psychopathic killer. But he isn’t. He’s incredibly stupid. He’s such an inept police detective that he invites a circle of people into his in...more
****Spoilers ahead****
She obviously believes that her protagonist Simon Ziele is an intelligent man; someone worthy of pitting against a psychopathic killer. But he isn’t. He’s incredibly stupid. He’s such an inept police detective that he invites a circle of people into his in...more
I picked up Stefanie Pintoff's "In the Shadow of Gotham" looking for a good historical fiction with plenty of thrills. As someone who enjoys murder mysteries and New York's history, this book had a lot of promise. Unfortunately, it did not deliver.
The story itself meanders quite a bit and is very talky, with little excitement. There is a great deal of focus on criminology, which the author clearly researched is some detail. While the plotline does eventually take some interesting twists and is i...more
The story itself meanders quite a bit and is very talky, with little excitement. There is a great deal of focus on criminology, which the author clearly researched is some detail. While the plotline does eventually take some interesting twists and is i...more
The first in a series of mysteries that take place in turn-of-the-century New York City. Simon Ziele is the detective. He is working in a small town just north of NYC where a young woman has been bludgeoned to death in her aunt's home. The investigation takes Simon back to the big city, where the young woman had been a gifted university mathematics student. Simon is contacted by Alistair Sinclair, a criminologist, who insists that he knows who has committed the murder. A man whom Sinclair had in...more
I saw Pintoff’s books recommended in an article by Jason Pinter, and knew immediately that I had to add them to my wish list. This was an entertaining depiction of turn-of-the-century investigation, where one often had to rely more upon luck than physical evidence. Not only do we see the earliest days of forensics, where even fingerprinting is brand new, but we see the beginnings of the use of criminology. It’s a time period I find particularly interesting to read about; a world caught somewhere...more
After suffering a personal tragedy in 1905, Detective Simon Ziele has transferred from New York City to a country town north of Manhattan where he expects his life and work to be less violent.
Within months of starting his new position he has to reassess this assumption when he’s called to the scene of a brutal murder. A young girl has been killed and severely beaten in her own bedroom. Nobody appears to have seen anything and Ziele and his boss appear to be facing an impossible investigation.
The...more
Within months of starting his new position he has to reassess this assumption when he’s called to the scene of a brutal murder. A young girl has been killed and severely beaten in her own bedroom. Nobody appears to have seen anything and Ziele and his boss appear to be facing an impossible investigation.
The...more
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Jan 24, 2011
Catherine Siemann
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3 of 5 stars
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Historical mysteries set in New York City are like catnip to me -- I love NYC history, and I love seeing how the author will play with the conventions. This one, set in 1905, was . . . pretty good. There were some anachronisms and other slips that jarred me: particularly a reference to a man's shirtwaist (wouldn't it be shirtwaists for women and shirts for men at that time?) and a couple of academic specifics about journal publication and "professor emeritus" (a 55 year old man who was still tea...more
Jun 01, 2010
Joyce Lagow
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2 of 5 stars
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Winner of the 2010 Edgar Award for Debut mystery novel, In The Shadow of Gotham is set in the New York City of 1905. It pairs up a young detective with a criminologist--therefore setting up inevitable comparisons with Caleb Carr's series set in the same time frame and with somewhat the same setup. But the comparison begins and ends there, because Pintoff's novel comes nowhere near Carr's series in either writing quality, evocation of setting or, in particular, characterization. The last is most...more
In the Shadow of Gotham (Minotaur 2009) introduces Simon Ziele, a police detective who lost his fiancee and the full use of his right arm in the 1904 wreck of the steamship General Slocum. Ziele has relocated from New York City to the town of Dobson, hoping for a quieter existence and time to recover from his loss, but the brutal and bloody murder of young mathematics student Sarah Wingate shatters his peaceful retreat. The investigation has barely begun when Ziele receives a communication from...more
It’s the year 1905 in Dobson, New York. On a mild winter evening, someone brutally murders Sarah Wingate in her bedroom while she’s visiting relatives. A brilliant mathematician, she had a promising future ahead of her. So why would anyone want to kill her?
After the death of his fiancée on the General Slocum ferry disaster in the summer of 1904, Detective Simon Ziele transfers to a police department north of New York, away from the city, to heal. He didn’t expect to encounter a vicious homicide...more
After the death of his fiancée on the General Slocum ferry disaster in the summer of 1904, Detective Simon Ziele transfers to a police department north of New York, away from the city, to heal. He didn’t expect to encounter a vicious homicide...more
Here's a debut well worth reading. If you like forensics, the workings of the criminal mind or books like Caleb Carr's Alienist, In the Shadow of Gotham should be on your TBR list.
After losing his fiancee in the Slocum Ferry disaster, police detective, Simon Ziele, in hopes of fleeing his memories, escapes New York City and relocates several miles north to Dobson, a quiet village. His quiet is soon interrupted with the brutal stabbing and death of Sarah Wingate. Very early on Ziele is contacted...more
After losing his fiancee in the Slocum Ferry disaster, police detective, Simon Ziele, in hopes of fleeing his memories, escapes New York City and relocates several miles north to Dobson, a quiet village. His quiet is soon interrupted with the brutal stabbing and death of Sarah Wingate. Very early on Ziele is contacted...more
First Sentence: The scream that pierced the dull yellow November sky was preternaturally high-pitched.
Simon Ziele left being a policeman in New York City after a personal tragedy and injury. Now in the New York, East River town of Dobson, a young woman has been brutally killed while staying with her aunt. Simon is surprised when noted criminologist, Alistair Sinclair, proclaims he knows the killer. But does he?
I really did want to like this book but there were just too many things wrong with it....more
Simon Ziele left being a policeman in New York City after a personal tragedy and injury. Now in the New York, East River town of Dobson, a young woman has been brutally killed while staying with her aunt. Simon is surprised when noted criminologist, Alistair Sinclair, proclaims he knows the killer. But does he?
I really did want to like this book but there were just too many things wrong with it....more
This is a classic turn-of-the-century procedural. A vicious murder committed in upstate New York causes ripples among the members of an elite criminology task force under the auspices of Columbia University, whose director seeks out Detective Simon Ziele. Ziele had quit the New York police force in favor of a job in a small town north of New York, under tragic circumstances. Appealing characters, terrific suspense, and a real sense of place in 1905 New York make this a great story.
I sure wish Goodreads allowed half star ratings because this is a 3 1/2 star book, in my personal system, if there ever was one. I started with high hopes, was initially a tad disappointed, but came to like it more by the end. It felt like the author was throwing all her research about turn-of-the-century New York at us at the start, overexplaining the setting in a way that really good historical crime novels do not. But either she relaxed along the way or I did and by the end I was starting to...more
This book definitely held my attention and I blasted through it. But it was also frustrating at the same time. I thought the killer was obvious from the first introduction, yet it took another 300 pages for the sleuths to figure it out. I was also oddly disappointed that Ziele left his new partner behind to work with obvious suspect (to me, anyway) Alistair.
The book was a bit over-explained, and didn't give the reader to think through some of the details on her own. At one point, a witness comme...more
The book was a bit over-explained, and didn't give the reader to think through some of the details on her own. At one point, a witness comme...more
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Having read several mysteries recently, I found this to be a pleasant variation on the theme. This particular mystery is set in 1905 New York. I enjoyed the historical details, the criminolgy and the characters. I don't read mysteries because I enjoy trying to solve the puzzle of the murder, I read mysteries because I want to solve the puzzle of the detective, what is his motivation, is he truly good or is he just the flip side of the criminal coin? In this case the detective was Simon Ziele, a...more
This is a really good debut novel & it is obvious why it won a "First Crime Novel Award" from the Mystery Writers of America. This book reminded a lot of The Alienist, but also of other books that deal with New York in the same time period; in particular, Banished Children of Eve by Peter Quinn & the classic Low Life by Luc Sante. I was pleased to see that she referenced Sante's work & I went promptly to my bookshelf to put Low Life back on my TBR list.
This book has the feel of its t...more
This book has the feel of its t...more
I think the word "lacking" best describes my feelings about this story. It's lacking in characterization, twists, and the the author's ability to edit unnecessary *stuff*.
Characterization: I really couldn't care about any one character. Everyone is horribly boring and one-dimensional. Even the backstories we're given are weak and predictable.
Twists: Maybe because I've read a lot of Deaver, I've become spoiled and expect great twists in detective fiction. I'm usually pretty bad at figuring out w...more
Characterization: I really couldn't care about any one character. Everyone is horribly boring and one-dimensional. Even the backstories we're given are weak and predictable.
Twists: Maybe because I've read a lot of Deaver, I've become spoiled and expect great twists in detective fiction. I'm usually pretty bad at figuring out w...more
Not very good at all. This book was nominated for the Anthony Award for best first and won the Edgar in the same category which frankly baffles me. The plotting was simplistic (Whodunit was painfully obvious), characters were thin and wooden, and even the historical details were not interesting. This ranks up there as one of the most boring books I have ever finished.
The reason it took me so long to get into this story is that Pintoff failed to create a realistic picture of New York in 1905 for me. She did plenty of research and threw in random facts about the era that distracted from the story, but I needed them to remind me that this was indeed historical fiction. Little things like a telephone in every residence with no mention of switchboard operators and a police photographer excessively snapping shots of a crime scene even though cameras were just rece...more
I picked up this book - and the sequel to it - just before Christmas because they were remainders and cheap, and the reviews on the covers compared them to Caleb Carr's "The Alienist." And I have to say . . . I really regret buying both of them. Because "In the Shadow of Gotham" is BAD.
The idea - the mystery itself and the plot - are okay, and would have been much more interesting in the hands of a good writer. Sadly, Pintoff is not a good writer. She overwrites extensively - putting information...more
The idea - the mystery itself and the plot - are okay, and would have been much more interesting in the hands of a good writer. Sadly, Pintoff is not a good writer. She overwrites extensively - putting information...more
I find I enjoy a detective story every now and again, and this book was given to me by a friend at the right time to scratch the itch. Suspend your disbelief, keep the pages turning and enjoy the portrait painted of 1905 New York, which may not entirely resemble actual 1905 New York, but until I come into possession of a time machine, I can't really check for myself.
I am generally the worst plot predicter ever, so it was kind of a surprise that I guessed the culprit from his first introduction....more
I am generally the worst plot predicter ever, so it was kind of a surprise that I guessed the culprit from his first introduction....more
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Pretty good first mystery. I guessed the killer, which means it was fairly obvious, since I'm not that good at guessing. I keep reading to see if I was right, so there was a bit of suspense.
Pintoff sets up a nice character in Detective Ziele, working near New York City in the early 1900s. It's also pretty obvious that Pintoff is setting up further stories in which he will work with a young widow.
Lots of interesting details about New York in that era; newspaper accounts of what was going on, det...more
Pintoff sets up a nice character in Detective Ziele, working near New York City in the early 1900s. It's also pretty obvious that Pintoff is setting up further stories in which he will work with a young widow.
Lots of interesting details about New York in that era; newspaper accounts of what was going on, det...more
Jul 13, 2010
Jann Barber
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommended to Jann by:
My library's mystery book club
This is Pintoff's debut crime novel, and I devoured it in two sittings and I've already requested her second book from the library. In "Gotham," we meet Detective Simon Ziele, who has left big-city policing in New York for a quieter job in Dobson, where murders are quite rare.
However, the brutal murder of Sarah Wingate, a mathematics graduate student at Columbia University brings Ziele back to the big city where he encounters Alistair Sinclair, an independently wealthy man who runs a research ce...more
However, the brutal murder of Sarah Wingate, a mathematics graduate student at Columbia University brings Ziele back to the big city where he encounters Alistair Sinclair, an independently wealthy man who runs a research ce...more
A turn of the century brutal crime that brings together the worlds of Sherlock Holmes and Criminal Minds. This novel shows the advent of criminology, new forensics, and hard detective work.
Ziele, a former NYC detective working north of the city after the Slocum ferry disaster, is brought back to the City on the tracks of a killer. He teams up with a professor who is just starting to study criminology.
I liked how it was written from one point of view so there wasn't a lot of story lines to follow...more
Ziele, a former NYC detective working north of the city after the Slocum ferry disaster, is brought back to the City on the tracks of a killer. He teams up with a professor who is just starting to study criminology.
I liked how it was written from one point of view so there wasn't a lot of story lines to follow...more
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In 2008, Stefanie Pintoff became the inaugural winner of the St. Martin's Minotaur/Mystery Writers of America Best First Crime Novel competition. Her novel, In the Shadow of Gotham, developed from what she learned about criminology and detective fiction while earning a J.D. from Columbia Law School and a Ph.D. in English Literature from New York University.
A former attorney and teacher, she now wr...more
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