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In the Shadow of Gotham (Simon Ziele #1)

3.47 of 5 stars 3.47  ·  rating details  ·  2,833 ratings  ·  452 reviews
Dobson, New York,1905.

Detective Simon Ziele lost his fiancée in the General Slocum ferry disaster—a thousand perished on that summer day in 1904 when an onboard fire burned the boat down in the waters of the East River. Still reeling from the tragedy, Ziele transferred to a police department north of New York, to escape the city and all the memories it conjured.

But only a
ebook, 400 pages
Published April 28th 2009 by Minotaur Books
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First Sentence: The scream that pierced the dull yellow November sky was preternaturally high-pitched.

Simon Ziele left being a policeman in New York City after a personal tragedy and injury. Now in the New York, East River town of Dobson, a young woman has been brutally killed while staying with her aunt. Simon is surprised when noted criminologist, Alistair Sinclair, proclaims he knows the killer. But does he?

I really did want to like this book but there were just too many things wrong with it.
Apr 04, 2011 Sue rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: readers of historical fiction, historical mystery and crime
Ah!! A new historical fiction series for me to enjoy. Set in 1905, this first entry involves a brutal murder in a small town just outside New York city and pulls in a former city policeman who now lives in that community. The reader is treated to a picture of the state of crime-fighting at that time, with wonderful visual pictures of the New York and suburban streets. New methods of understanding criminal behavior are being tested during the search for the killer.

Highly recommended for those who
Not very good at all. This book was nominated for the Anthony Award for best first and won the Edgar in the same category which frankly baffles me. The plotting was simplistic (Whodunit was painfully obvious), characters were thin and wooden, and even the historical details were not interesting. This ranks up there as one of the most boring books I have ever finished.
The reason it took me so long to get into this story is that Pintoff failed to create a realistic picture of New York in 1905 for me. She did plenty of research and threw in random facts about the era that distracted from the story, but I needed them to remind me that this was indeed historical fiction. Little things like a telephone in every residence with no mention of switchboard operators and a police photographer excessively snapping shots of a crime scene even though cameras were just rece ...more
Joyce Lagow
Winner of the 2010 Edgar Award for Debut mystery novel, In The Shadow of Gotham is set in the New York City of 1905. It pairs up a young detective with a criminologist--therefore setting up inevitable comparisons with Caleb Carr's series set in the same time frame and with somewhat the same setup. But the comparison begins and ends there, because Pintoff's novel comes nowhere near Carr's series in either writing quality, evocation of setting or, in particular, characterization. The last is most ...more
Catherine Siemann
Historical mysteries set in New York City are like catnip to me -- I love NYC history, and I love seeing how the author will play with the conventions. This one, set in 1905, was . . . pretty good. There were some anachronisms and other slips that jarred me: particularly a reference to a man's shirtwaist (wouldn't it be shirtwaists for women and shirts for men at that time?) and a couple of academic specifics about journal publication and "professor emeritus" (a 55 year old man who was still tea ...more
Talulah Mankiller
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In the Shadow of Gotham (Minotaur 2009) introduces Simon Ziele, a police detective who lost his fiancee and the full use of his right arm in the 1904 wreck of the steamship General Slocum. Ziele has relocated from New York City to the town of Dobson, hoping for a quieter existence and time to recover from his loss, but the brutal and bloody murder of young mathematics student Sarah Wingate shatters his peaceful retreat. The investigation has barely begun when Ziele receives a communication from ...more
A completely enjoyable read by a new author. In the Shadow of Gotham is detective mystery novel that takes place in NYC at the very beginning of the 20th century. Detective Ziele partners up with a professor of criminology to find the person who killed a brilliant female math student. As far as detective novels go, it's not original or innovative, but it's extremely well-written and while I correctly identified the perpetrator near the beginning, Pintoff kept things mysterious enough that I alwa ...more
Here's a debut well worth reading. If you like forensics, the workings of the criminal mind or books like Caleb Carr's Alienist, In the Shadow of Gotham should be on your TBR list.

After losing his fiancee in the Slocum Ferry disaster, police detective, Simon Ziele, in hopes of fleeing his memories, escapes New York City and relocates several miles north to Dobson, a quiet village. His quiet is soon interrupted with the brutal stabbing and death of Sarah Wingate. Very early on Ziele is contacted
Barbara Storey
I picked up this book - and the sequel to it - just before Christmas because they were remainders and cheap, and the reviews on the covers compared them to Caleb Carr's "The Alienist." And I have to say . . . I really regret buying both of them. Because "In the Shadow of Gotham" is BAD.

The idea - the mystery itself and the plot - are okay, and would have been much more interesting in the hands of a good writer. Sadly, Pintoff is not a good writer. She overwrites extensively - putting information
When I started looking for a final book for the Criminal Plots III Reading Challenge (Read a novel that's been nominated for and Edgar in the last five years), I was relieved to find In the Shadow of Gotham by Stefanie Pintoff sitting on my shelves since I'm trying really hard to read more from my own stacks. I'm not much for reading more recent books, but I had picked this one up last May while browsing in our Friends of the Library used book store. It was purely a whim--based on the cover, the ...more
Historical fiction and murder mystery all rolled into one book. Really loved how the author used the early days of forensics to solve her crimes. This one was a real page turner and while I was able to figure out whodunit, this one still kept me guessing with some of the details up until the end. I can see why Pintoff was a finalist for the Edgar award. I am happy to see there is another book with Detective Simon Ziele.
Three and a half stars.

Very good detective mystery novel with a historical setting of New York in 1905. The author did her homework in the forensics of the era so the authenticity rings true. I am also in awe of any mystery novel in which the identity of the murderer remain unclear to me until the end. The story does offer lots of red herrings. Overall a pleasant mystery worth the time to read.
This is a great first novel. I can only imaginge that Ms. Pintoff's future books will get better and better.
Deborah Cater
Feb 06, 2014 Deborah Cater rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Nobody!
This novel won the author two awards for best first crime novel and I am trying to figure out why. The premise of the novel is good - turn of the (20th) century New York is the location, combined with an insight into the suffragette movement, the emerging sciences of forensics and psychological profiling, a detective who has a decent back-story and a suitably disturbed killer. Sadly, Pintoff failed to deliver.

There was no feeling of place – New York was as flat as a theatre back-drop; the charac
I think the word "lacking" best describes my feelings about this story. It's lacking in characterization, twists, and the the author's ability to edit unnecessary *stuff*.

Characterization: I really couldn't care about any one character. Everyone is horribly boring and one-dimensional. Even the backstories we're given are weak and predictable.

Twists: Maybe because I've read a lot of Deaver, I've become spoiled and expect great twists in detective fiction. I'm usually pretty bad at figuring out w
It is 1904 and Detective Simon Ziele fled New York City to take a job in the small town of Dobson, New York after his fiancée is tragically killed. Soon after he arrives, the horrific murder of a young woman in her own home is committed in Dobson and it eventually leads Simon back the city and Columbia University where renowned criminologist, Alistair Sinclair helps him investigate a man he has studied that he believes is the prime suspect in the case.

In the Shadow of Gotham by Stefanie Pintoff
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It’s the year 1905 in Dobson, New York. On a mild winter evening, someone brutally murders Sarah Wingate in her bedroom while she’s visiting relatives. A brilliant mathematician, she had a promising future ahead of her. So why would anyone want to kill her?

After the death of his fiancée on the General Slocum ferry disaster in the summer of 1904, Detective Simon Ziele transfers to a police department north of New York, away from the city, to heal. He didn’t expect to encounter a vicious homicide
I picked up Stefanie Pintoff's "In the Shadow of Gotham" looking for a good historical fiction with plenty of thrills. As someone who enjoys murder mysteries and New York's history, this book had a lot of promise. Unfortunately, it did not deliver.

The story itself meanders quite a bit and is very talky, with little excitement. There is a great deal of focus on criminology, which the author clearly researched is some detail. While the plotline does eventually take some interesting twists and is i
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I saw Pintoff’s books recommended in an article by Jason Pinter, and knew immediately that I had to add them to my wish list. This was an entertaining depiction of turn-of-the-century investigation, where one often had to rely more upon luck than physical evidence. Not only do we see the earliest days of forensics, where even fingerprinting is brand new, but we see the beginnings of the use of criminology. It’s a time period I find particularly interesting to read about; a world caught somewhere ...more
Kelly Belvis
Having read several mysteries recently, I found this to be a pleasant variation on the theme. This particular mystery is set in 1905 New York. I enjoyed the historical details, the criminolgy and the characters. I don't read mysteries because I enjoy trying to solve the puzzle of the murder, I read mysteries because I want to solve the puzzle of the detective, what is his motivation, is he truly good or is he just the flip side of the criminal coin? In this case the detective was Simon Ziele, a ...more
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Excellent first mystery! This book has been compared to The Alienist, and while I see this, I like the police procedural aspect of it.

Simon Ziele has left New York City proper to move north to Dobson, so live the small town life. A horrible murder is committed there, which brings him back to the city, as it seems the murderer may have come from there. A criminalogist from Columbia University gets involved very quickly, as the murder was done in the manner of one of his research subjects. This no
Deb Novack
This being a debut novel, it was unbelievable. How wonderful and attention holding it was. I loved Simon the lead detective, Alastair and Isabella his daughter in law. I have become quite a fan of Victorian historical mysteries.

Ms. Pintoff did her research well, when she could use actual facts she did and when she had to add to the actual facts she did a wonderful job. I am currently reading the Secret of the White Rose and only just beginning it I know it will be another good one.
This is a classic turn-of-the-century procedural. A vicious murder committed in upstate New York causes ripples among the members of an elite criminology task force under the auspices of Columbia University, whose director seeks out Detective Simon Ziele. Ziele had quit the New York police force in favor of a job in a small town north of New York, under tragic circumstances. Appealing characters, terrific suspense, and a real sense of place in 1905 New York make this a great story.
I have no idea how I found out about this book, but I really enjoyed it! First of all, it takes place in one of my favorite places and times: New York City at the turn of the twentieth century. But whereas most of the other books I've read about this time and place deal with well-to-do types, this one focused more on working people, and poor people.

Simon Ziele, a former New York police officer, has moved to Dobson, New York, in the Hudson Valley to start over once his fiancee dies. Dobson is a p
I was rather disappointed by this book. It was well-written but the story was pretty pedestrian and the mystery aspect was rather weak. It was obvious from early on who the murderer was and the motive was predictable as well, leading to a boring ending. The lead character was not much of an investigator and did not display impressive police skills. I picked this up due to the comparisons to "The Alienist", which I loved, but this book is not in the same ballpark.
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In 2008, Stefanie Pintoff became the inaugural winner of the St. Martin's Minotaur/Mystery Writers of America Best First Crime Novel competition. Her novel, In the Shadow of Gotham, developed from what she learned about criminology and detective fiction while earning a J.D. from Columbia Law School and a Ph.D. in English Literature from New York University.

A former attorney and teacher, she now wr
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