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The Dervish House
by
Ian McDonald
Seven days, six characters, three interconnected story strands, one central common core--the eponymous dervish house, a character in itself--that pins all these players together in a weave of intrigue, conflict, drama, and a ticking clock of a thriller.
Hardcover, 359 pages
Published
July 27th 2010
by Pyr
(first published January 1st 2010)
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(Reprinted from the Chicago Center for Literature and Photography [cclapcenter.com:]. I am the original author of this essay, as well as the owner of CCLaP; it is not being reprinted illegally.)
(This is being published today for the first time in honor of "Ian McDonald Week" at CCLaP. For an overview of all the content regarding McDonald being posted here this week, you can click here.)
So what exactly are we talking about, anyway, when we talk about "cyberp...more
(This is being published today for the first time in honor of "Ian McDonald Week" at CCLaP. For an overview of all the content regarding McDonald being posted here this week, you can click here.)
So what exactly are we talking about, anyway, when we talk about "cyberp...more
Necdet, a troubled young man, is witness to what looks like a botched suicide bombing on a crowded city tram; afterwards, he starts seeing djinn and other supernatural creatures. Can, a nine year old boy with an amazing robotic toy — and a heart condition that confines him to a silent world — accidentally becomes involved in the intrigue. Ayse, a gallery owner, is contracted to find a mysterious and elusive relic, while her boyfriend Adnan, a successful trader, works on his own scheme to become ...more
I enjoyed this book very much, it reads the way great and unforgettable movies play. The chapters start like transitioning scenes and with enough details to have the movie start even if you haven't read the book for a couple of days. Also, the book wants you to commit before it starts (I think that's the Muslim way) with introducing the Turkish alphabet and then having people's names, food, places, and geography not-translated. The whole story is a fascinating near feature scenario. I hope...more
One of my favorite moments in The Dervish House is when Ian McDonald outlines an unusual think tank that is intended to anticipate terrorism. This think tank will be given a minimal amount of data and will then be asked to make intuitive predictions.
The backgrounds of the members included are quite interesting. One of the participants is a "pscyhogeographer," or a person that traces the history of a city's geography and its impact on people's lives. Why do people on one sid...more
The backgrounds of the members included are quite interesting. One of the participants is a "pscyhogeographer," or a person that traces the history of a city's geography and its impact on people's lives. Why do people on one sid...more
Tamahome
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p 36/358 - Reading it because of Jenny. Seems pretty challenging. Going about 20 pgs/hr. Seems exotic though.
Oh, and can someone send me the ARC for Planesrunner? Thanks in advance!
p 74/358 - I donno. Maybe I'm not reading it often enough. It just seems like work.
Oh, and can someone send me the ARC for Planesrunner? Thanks in advance!
p 74/358 - I donno. Maybe I'm not reading it often enough. It just seems like work.
I couldn’t even finish The Dervish House. I got about 40 pages in (a full ten percent) and dropped it. A ton of characters were introduced, but not a single one succeeded in getting my attention or sympathy. I liked the setting (Istanbul), but got very, very tired of the would-be poetic description. The author went on for pages – in flowery present tense – about everything. Fireworks took ten pages to go off, and internal monologues lasted for three or four pages in the middle of dialogue. ...more
Pros: lyrical writing, intricate and complex plot, exotic setting, Can's bitbots are cool
Cons: have to pay close attention (sudden flashbacks/memories, lots of minute details), minor character & place names are unusual and similar enough that they're easily confused when jumping between so many storylines (Ogun Saltuk, Selma Ozgun, Oguz, Ozer)
The novel is set in the Istanbul of 2027. Turkey is part of the EU. Nanotech is used to give people a mental edge, especially in busine...more
Cons: have to pay close attention (sudden flashbacks/memories, lots of minute details), minor character & place names are unusual and similar enough that they're easily confused when jumping between so many storylines (Ogun Saltuk, Selma Ozgun, Oguz, Ozer)
The novel is set in the Istanbul of 2027. Turkey is part of the EU. Nanotech is used to give people a mental edge, especially in busine...more
I received an electronic copy of this book in my Hugo voter packet. So I was reading it with an eye to seeing if it deserved an award, and I was holding it to a high standard. That may be why I was so disappointed.
This book has some really good ideas: original, sf'nal, even hard. Unfortunately, the reader has to plow through 250 pages of lead-up to get to them. Up until that point, this could have been written as a mainstream novel, and the sf elements could have been eliminated in un...more
This book has some really good ideas: original, sf'nal, even hard. Unfortunately, the reader has to plow through 250 pages of lead-up to get to them. Up until that point, this could have been written as a mainstream novel, and the sf elements could have been eliminated in un...more
Hugo-nominee The Dervish House is captivating because of its authentic, copious, engaging details. It’s satisfying and thought-provoking because it interweaves themes and motifs into a steadily moving plot.
I’ve never read a near-future sci-fi book set in Instanbul, so I was fascinated by the cultural mix of Greeks, Turks, and Eastern Europeans. Home, food, politics, lifestyle: Ian McDonald paints them all with vivid, specific details. Unfortunately, these details often slow down the bo...more
I’ve never read a near-future sci-fi book set in Instanbul, so I was fascinated by the cultural mix of Greeks, Turks, and Eastern Europeans. Home, food, politics, lifestyle: Ian McDonald paints them all with vivid, specific details. Unfortunately, these details often slow down the bo...more
I have long been enamoured of Turkey. Actually, strictly speaking I have long been enamoured of the idea of Turkey: the decadence, the luxury, the it’s very different there. Over the last number of years I have come to the realisation that this idea, or dream, of the country is a very European one, and a very colonial one in many regards – it’s a view of “the East” that has existed in “the West” at least since the Romans had their snooty ideas about Egypt and Persia. Despite being well aware of ...more
Having been very impressed with McDonald's previous two books, "River and Gods" and "Brasyl", I was looking forward to this and hoping that his portrayal of a futuristic Istanbul would match up with his portrayals of a futuristic India and Brazil from the preceding books. One of the best features of the book is his evocative description of a mid-21st Century Istanbul, having never been to Turkey I can't tell how genuine his portrayal of a future Turkey is, but he certainly ma...more
Maybe it just seems that way, but I have to think there were more books like Ian McDonald’s excellent “The Dervish House” (Pyr, $26, 358 pages) back in the day.
“The Dervish House,” set in Istanbul in the near future, combines science (and comprehensible science, no less), fiction (fleshed-out, flawed but sympathetic characters) and a complex, satisfying plot that keeps the pages turning. We’ve got terrorists, high-level business deals, an intriguing future, romance, a Boy Detective, al...more
“The Dervish House,” set in Istanbul in the near future, combines science (and comprehensible science, no less), fiction (fleshed-out, flawed but sympathetic characters) and a complex, satisfying plot that keeps the pages turning. We’ve got terrorists, high-level business deals, an intriguing future, romance, a Boy Detective, al...more
Alan
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Recommends it for:
Lovers of complexity
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Previous work; res ipsa loquitur
The Dervish House gives the impression that it could easily be as messy, sprawling and complex as Istanbul itself. It can't, of course; no single work of fiction could approach the complexity of even the most modern and mundane of cities, much less the ancient metropolis that stands at the crossroads between Asia and Europe. But after a leisurely start, The Dervish House ended up being amazing anyway.
Complex and multithreaded, this novel defies easy synopsis. Its plot is a mix of ancie...more
Complex and multithreaded, this novel defies easy synopsis. Its plot is a mix of ancie...more
I’ve sat down and tried to write about this book at least twice now, and both times have ended up being distracted, which of course has left me terribly behind on this whole blogging thing. Given that, I’m going to do a fairly brief version three, with apologies – I had a lot of things to say about The Dervish House, and it is a book that repays attentive reading, but quite frankly I need to get on with everything else, so there you go. Having said that, I’ll probably end up blathering on for ag...more
Can spirituality and religious ideas be injected into the people's mind via nanoagents? Can the Name of God be inscribed into every human cell and artificial material?
The new book of Ian McDonald takes us through the mystic landscapes of seducing Istanbul, Queen of Cities, Bridge of Civilizations, where in a Grand Tour of only 6 days, the lives of many characters are changed and transformed.
The depth of the book is exceptional, and as it was for his previous novel, Brasyl, McDondald kn...more
The new book of Ian McDonald takes us through the mystic landscapes of seducing Istanbul, Queen of Cities, Bridge of Civilizations, where in a Grand Tour of only 6 days, the lives of many characters are changed and transformed.
The depth of the book is exceptional, and as it was for his previous novel, Brasyl, McDondald kn...more
This is a fantasic book; the best of 2010 that I have read. The prose is simultaneously easy-to-read and also weighty (never seeming ponderous.) Stylistically, it reminded me of Meiville. There are a handful of characters and it is their diversity that forms one of the strongest bases of the novel. The narrative builds up but always is fast-paced.
I do have a few quibbles. The present tense is a little hard to deal with, and the multiple shifting of POV's makes it dificult initia...more
I do have a few quibbles. The present tense is a little hard to deal with, and the multiple shifting of POV's makes it dificult initia...more
Very well written and researched, but the pace is slow and meandering. A bit of a slog actually. The science fiction takes a back seat to the writer's desire to build up setting and atmosphere with literary techniques. The setting is, of course, Istanbul, one of the most interesting cities in the world. We see it twenty years hence, as nanotechnology has superseded the information revolution (nano you can snort!). We are following six or so characters over six days after a bomb blast on the tram...more
I nearly didn't read this book. The sample failed to interest me. In fact it seemed so over-written and dense that I wasn't sure what the book was about after the better part of the first chapter. However, in-part because the book was Hugo nominated and in-part because it was the io9.com book club read for the month I persevered and bought the book.
Rereading the first chapter made a lot more sense the second time around, and almost the very next page after the sample had ended the book...more
Rereading the first chapter made a lot more sense the second time around, and almost the very next page after the sample had ended the book...more
Known for his sweeping outlook, elaborately envisioned futures, and blend of science and mysticism, Ian McDonald has written a fascinating, thought-provoking novel worthy of his reputation. He paints a vivid portrait of the ancient city of Istanbul, layering it with political, cultural, and religious strata, as well as an ingeniously imagined world of practical nanotechnology. Critics praised his compelling characters--all too often a casualty of genre fiction--and his poetic prose, but they als...more
When I finish a book and feel the pain of regret and loss, it's usually because the characters were so wonderful, so rich, and so memorable that they had become part of my life. In The Dervish House, the characters are wonderful, but it's the Queen City of Istanbul and the way that Ian McDonald has drawn it that I'll remember forever.
One of the things I liked about this is that it's so un-American and un-Western. The west does not hold a monopoly on science fiction, yet it often seem...more
One of the things I liked about this is that it's so un-American and un-Western. The west does not hold a monopoly on science fiction, yet it often seem...more
In 2027, deals are going down in Istanbul the Queen of Cities--deals buried centuries deep, deals buried in the arcana of the financial markets, and deals buried deep in our own DNA--as the city sweats through a record heat wave. Deals encoded, deals exposed, deals covered up, deals rejected, deals accepted. Nothing is sacred; everything is for sale. And yet everything is sacred; nothing escapes an encoded meaning, from the micrographic calligraphy of ancient Jewish texts in a gallery to a sacre...more
Jenny
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This is the last of the Hugo-nominated novels for this year, and wow did I save the best for last.
The Dervish House is everything I always hope for when I open a William Gibson novel, and was so pleased to find here. Cyberpunk, sure, but in this incredibly vibrant setting (Turkey right after it has joined the EU) with a lot of sub-plots (Mellified Man, Nano Terrorism, ancient artifacts, insider trading, kind of, a clever boy and his bots).
One thing I love is McDonald's...more
The Dervish House is everything I always hope for when I open a William Gibson novel, and was so pleased to find here. Cyberpunk, sure, but in this incredibly vibrant setting (Turkey right after it has joined the EU) with a lot of sub-plots (Mellified Man, Nano Terrorism, ancient artifacts, insider trading, kind of, a clever boy and his bots).
One thing I love is McDonald's...more
This is a tough review to write, just as is this is a difficult read to finish. It actually took me a long time tomget into it, including a total reread of the first part of this book. I feel that that the literary elements of this book, the prose, the setting, the multiple Pov's, and the relevant story line make this novel appealing to all fiction readers, not just science fiction lovers. I loved the stories being intertwined through the Dervish house. Can and Necdet really made this book for...more
A twisting dance as six stories entwine in the heart of near future Istanbul. The old world and the ultra new, the ancient and the nascent future whirl together around the old Dervish House in Adem Dede Square.
Heat struck Istanbul, at once archaic and enigmatic then industrial and grimy, but also thrusting and modern, the palpitating heart of new European future Turkey, the crossroads of East and West, makes a fascinating and atmospheric setting as the stories spiral ever faster around ea...more
Heat struck Istanbul, at once archaic and enigmatic then industrial and grimy, but also thrusting and modern, the palpitating heart of new European future Turkey, the crossroads of East and West, makes a fascinating and atmospheric setting as the stories spiral ever faster around ea...more
Writers of good, near-future science fiction have to be incredibly clever, and Ian McDonald undoubtedly is. The Dervish House, set in Istanbul in 2025 combines history, nano-technology, world gas markets, the Istanbul stock exchange, psycho-geography, religion, politics, family, money and the legendary 'Mellified Man' (a corpse preserved in honey, with magical properties). Oh, and the continuing rivalry between Galataserei and Arsenal. All of these elements permeate the deftly-woven plot - there...more
This is yet another book that makes me with Goodreads allowed for half-stars in its rating system. I think I wanted to like this a lot more than I did, as I am a fan of Ian McDonald in general and I picked this up after it was massively hyped by a friend of mine whose taste I trust. So I suppose the rating has as much to do with the gap between expectations (mind-blowing book of the year, instant entry on next year's Hugo ballot type novel) and experience (quite enjoyable reading, likely entry o...more
The Dervish House starts with a bang: a suicide bomber blows up her own head on a tram in Istanbul. The rest of the novel tells the stories of a wide variety of characters who either live or work in the Dervish House. One of the characters was a witness to the bombing, but the others are simply people who share a common geography.
It is a novel about many things: science fiction (nanotechnology is a big part of this novel, as are designer drugs), interconnectivity, myths, stories, histo...more
It is a novel about many things: science fiction (nanotechnology is a big part of this novel, as are designer drugs), interconnectivity, myths, stories, histo...more
I started out not at all sure I was going to like this one. I've read a few books in the past year that seem to have some commonalities, they are set in the near future and they are intricate and interesting and full of literary craft but they are also pretty fascinated with the perverse, the brutal, the grotesque, with cruelty and failure and stupidity among the predatory and the self destructive. Which fine, if that's what a writer wants to be fascinated with, more power to him, but its not f...more
I don't know that I could call this one a 'thriller'. I found it was was a bit of a slog up until about page 300, then the plot took off very nicely. Of the six characters, I was really only interested in about three of them, so I would look forward to their next appearance, which was often farther along than I would like.
What did grab my fancy was the different lives everyone was leading: a commodities trader, and antiquities dealer, an old retired professor, a sheltered nine y...more
What did grab my fancy was the different lives everyone was leading: a commodities trader, and antiquities dealer, an old retired professor, a sheltered nine y...more
Set in a futuristic Turkey where nanobots are in demand, clean gas is the king, and where people gamble on terror attacks The Dervish House is a good example of a good idea ruined.
This was my first novel by Ian McDonald and I don't think I'll read another. I found a very dry and uninteresting narrative with only one character (out of six) that I cared about. That one was the Boy Detective who couldn't hear loud noises. The rest were fairly unbelievable in their reactions, flat, and t...more
This was my first novel by Ian McDonald and I don't think I'll read another. I found a very dry and uninteresting narrative with only one character (out of six) that I cared about. That one was the Boy Detective who couldn't hear loud noises. The rest were fairly unbelievable in their reactions, flat, and t...more
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Ian McDonald (1960-) is a British science fiction novelist, living in Belfast. His themes include nanotechnology, postcyberpunk settings, and the impact of rapid social and technological change on non-Western societies.
McDonald was born in 1960, in Manchester, to a Scottish father and Irish mother, but moved to Belfast when he was five, and has lived there ever since. He therefore live...more
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