Saxons, Vikings, and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland
by
Bryan Sykes
One of the world's leading geneticists, Bryan Sykes has helped thousands find their ancestry in the British Isles. Saxons, Vikings, and Celts, which resulted from a systematic ten-year DNA survey of more than 10,000 volunteers, traces the true genetic makeup of the British Isles and its descendants, taking readers from the Pontnewydd cave in North Wales to the resting plac...more
Hardcover, 306 pages
Published
November 1st 2006
by W. W. Norton & Company
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Fascinating study presented in layman's terms explaining the genetic history of the British Isles. Probably the most startling result of his work, and that of other geneticists as well, is that 'lost' peoples such as the Picts of Scotland or Celts generally in England did not vanish genetically even if they did culturally. They live on in all of us of British descent. Other points of interest include the apparent confirmation that legends of Celtic migration from the Middle East through Iberia t...more
For a book that made much of its technical complexity, it was very simply written, and very clear in its explanations. What I found frustrating was that the author would present the history of the various regions separate from the results, and it was difficult to reconstruct exactly what import the results had on the large historical questions. But overall it was quite interesting, and a good review of the early history of the british isles.
What was most interesting for me is what he suggested...more
What was most interesting for me is what he suggested...more
Even though this was not fiction, this was really a page-turner for me. Most of my heritage is English-Irish-Scottish, so I was incredibly intrigued to read about the studies that Bryan Sykes and his colleagues have been involved in regarding the genetic history of the British Isles. I've always had a keen interest in both my personal genealogy and in genetics in general, and this brought it all together for me, as well as placing it in an historical frame of reference. Based upon previous resea...more
Jul 18, 2010
Kelly
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
people who are interested in the history of the peoples of the British Isles
Several years ago, when I was in Scotland, I took a class on the Picts. They are a very elusive people surrounded by mythology and historians have had trouble pinning down realistic information about them, so there have been numerous myths about them propagated over the years. Serious historians of the Picts have fairly recently decided they were almost definitely a Celtic people who were related to more to the Celts of southern Britain rather than the Gaels (who are the primary ancestors of mod...more
This excellent book by Bryan Sykes was a really great read about my own ancestors. I have always been interested in the history of Britain and Ireland and was always curious about the allure of the tiny little isles in the North Sea. Sykes documents the ancestry of the Isles by volunteer DNA samples through blood donors and booths at country fairs. Some of the people in these areas haven't moved in generations and many of the strains are surprisingly consistant. It was revealing to learn that so...more
The second of Sykes's books that I've read, and another interesting foray into the genetic background of the British Isles. In Seven Daughters of Eve, Sykes concentrated on mitochondria. In this book, he explores more of the origins of the British Isle, from both male and female sources.
This book attempts to pick apart the mythology about the different 'tribes' that settled the isles.
Also, he challenges the assumptions that historians and others make about human exploration, settlement and mig...more
This book attempts to pick apart the mythology about the different 'tribes' that settled the isles.
Also, he challenges the assumptions that historians and others make about human exploration, settlement and mig...more
I have longed to know who I am and who my ancestors were since about age 13. I always thought I was mostly German with Irish and Scottish in the mix. I took a DNA test and was very surprised to get a further breakdown of my maternal line.
I started reading, "Seven Daughters of Eve" and saw this title referenced a few times so bought this book too. I am very happy with the depth of information in this book. Bryan Sykes has wriiten a very informative book, written in language that most can under...more
I started reading, "Seven Daughters of Eve" and saw this title referenced a few times so bought this book too. I am very happy with the depth of information in this book. Bryan Sykes has wriiten a very informative book, written in language that most can under...more
I borrowed this from Larry's sil over Father's Day weekend, so I've begun it, so I can return it. Fascinating premise I must say.
I started thinking 4.5 star rating, but this book really is amazing, so I upped it to 5. A complicated subject - the DNA of the British Isles - written is so comprehensible a way that even I understood most of it - a good percentage at least. I am NOT a scientist, but Sykes writes so well, and warns you when he might need to be a bit more scientific in what he's writin...more
I started thinking 4.5 star rating, but this book really is amazing, so I upped it to 5. A complicated subject - the DNA of the British Isles - written is so comprehensible a way that even I understood most of it - a good percentage at least. I am NOT a scientist, but Sykes writes so well, and warns you when he might need to be a bit more scientific in what he's writin...more
Bryan Sykes is an eminently readable scientist. That sentence seems almost oxymoronic, especially if, like me, you are married to a scientist. Sykes expresses his enthusiasm for his subject and work in this book, making the complex science of genetics and genetic ancestry accessible and understandable.
I picked this book up based on its title. I have a small obsession and fascination with Britain and its peoples and history, especially the mystical Druids and Celts. Sykes includes a bit of histor...more
I picked this book up based on its title. I have a small obsession and fascination with Britain and its peoples and history, especially the mystical Druids and Celts. Sykes includes a bit of histor...more
While this book rambled a lot (I am not sure how he got a lot of this through an editor--it sounds like my writing if I just sit down and crank out a first draft and I was feeling particularly scattered that day), it still had so much stuff that I just love that it made it totally worth it.This would include history of the isles, mythology of the isles, geographical descriptions of the isles, and stories about the isles.
Anytime someone other than a historian can find a way to explore history I f...more
Anytime someone other than a historian can find a way to explore history I f...more
I expected more about DNA and genetics; instead there is a lot of history. Most of the history is interesting, but I wanted genetics.
My main problem with this book is the lack of quality control on the eBook edition. There are a ton of words missing letters or with the wrong letters inserted. The same with many of the numbers. There are also some sentences that appear to be randomly added. The end result seriously degrades the reading experience. I am finding this type of problem with many eBoo...more
My main problem with this book is the lack of quality control on the eBook edition. There are a ton of words missing letters or with the wrong letters inserted. The same with many of the numbers. There are also some sentences that appear to be randomly added. The end result seriously degrades the reading experience. I am finding this type of problem with many eBoo...more
Bryan Sykes has a friendly, chatty writing style that I enjoyed but he spends the first half of the book sharing anecdotes about his colleagues and Irish mythology, some of which are needed background for the book, but many of which are not. Eventually he gets around to discussing the genetic roots of Britain and Ireland, but by the time that happens, many of you will have moved on to other books. The actual material pertaining to the genetic history of the British Isles could fill a long articl...more
Sep 02, 2011
Andrew
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Historians, Celticists, Linguists
This is a fascinating new take on the history of the Britain and Ireland based on the DNA make-up of the current inhabitants. Looking at mutations in mitochondrial DNA (which demonstrate a strict maternal line), and mutations in the Y chromosome which track strict paternal lines, Sykes can associate individuals and population groups with "clans" of ancestors tracing back to a single maternal or paternal ancestor. By locating these clan types on a map Sykes attempts to deduce population groups (a...more
Probably appeals to a narrow audience, mostly Anglophiles, genealogists, historians of the British Isles, etc. I read it four years ago but to the best of my recollection the sum of this book amounts to that English, Irish & Scottish are all descended from the same small group of original settlers who may have come from Spain [!]
Virtually no trace of the Roman occupation survives in the gene pool, and surprisingly little from the Viking and Norman occupations, either. Mostly the peoples of t...more
Virtually no trace of the Roman occupation survives in the gene pool, and surprisingly little from the Viking and Norman occupations, either. Mostly the peoples of t...more
If you have roots in the British Isles and an interest in genetics or genealogy, this book is for you. As the back of the book describes: "Through a systematic ten-year DNA survey of more than 10,000 volunteers from across Britain, Ireland, and America, Bryan Sykes has traced the true genetic make-up of the British Isles and their descendants."
The subject matter and conclusions are fascinating. I enjoyed the parts describing the science more than the historical sections, which I found to be "dry...more
The subject matter and conclusions are fascinating. I enjoyed the parts describing the science more than the historical sections, which I found to be "dry...more
If you are interested in genealogy,you will like this book. Blood tests and cheek swabs of the people of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and England tells the stories of the invaders,conquerors and the natives of these ancient lands. I found it interesting that only certain parts of Scotland showed a high percentage of Viking ancestry and others a high percentage of celtic/pictish origins. They were also able to tell that certain parts of British Isle, the relationship between the vikings and celtic w...more
Interesting thesis, and well defended. Some parts a bit tough to follow, as the author assumes a decent knowledge of the geography of the British Isles, including the locations of key cities by name. Also his use of the Queen's English requires one to occasionally translate into the American vernacular. Other than that, you will learn a lot about genetics, the prehistory of the Isles, and the cultural mixes which have contributed to their present day population. Fascinating to read, and understa...more
This is intended for a general public, not for the specialist. Just about everything the British reader needs to know about the genetic and archeological evidence about the origin of the British peoples. It's very clear, well organized, I liked it a lot. The only thing about this sort of book is that two weeks later I hardly remember a date, a region, a fact --- so one really ought to have this book on a bookshelf or coffee table and have the whole family read it and discuss it. And it probably...more
I loved this book. I had my doubts about it; having never read anything by him and being as much of an Anglophile as I am, I didn't know what to expect and was terrified that my love of all things related to the Isles might have been shattered. But much to my relief, this book about genetics became somewhat magical for me. I felt the way I did as I was finishing Sir Gibbie by George Macdonald, I didn't want the magic of it all to end. Incredible book; very interesting; well delivered; easy to un...more
Written by one of the world’s leading geneticists from Oxford University, Bryan Sykes has helped thousands find their ancestry in the British Isles. This book resulted from a ten-year DNA survey of more than 10,000 volunteers, and traces the true genetic makeup of the British Isles and its descendants. Starting with ancient paleolithic and mesolithic findings, Sykes takes readers from the Pontnewydd cave in North Wales to the resting place of “The Red Lady” of Paviland, to the legend and tomb of...more
It's fascinating to learn about the early inhabitants of the British Isles, and their links to the present inhabitants. It makes me want to send in my DNA to find out how I'm related; with surnames like Teaffe, Davis, Morton, and Hughes in my family tree there's no doubt I'm of Celtic heritage. It would be such fun to see which of the seven clan mothers I'm descended from. But this book is more than that; it seeks to learn how much of the Isles' population is actually descended from the Vikings...more
A very interesting read; I am glad that he discussed not just his genetic investigations into the people of the British Isles, but also the archaeological and historical facts behind the many peoples and tribes of Britain and Ireland.
However, the book does seem a bit "thin", in retrospect; he tends to fill space with anecdotes from his time conducting the genetic studies that form the basis of the book's conclusions. And though much of the history was new to me, I felt like he went into greater...more
However, the book does seem a bit "thin", in retrospect; he tends to fill space with anecdotes from his time conducting the genetic studies that form the basis of the book's conclusions. And though much of the history was new to me, I felt like he went into greater...more
Mar 21, 2011
Gayle Mangis
rated it
4 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Homeschoolers--high school
Bryan Sykes has put together a fascinating interdisciplinary study of the genetic history of Britain and Ireland. Starting with a general overview and continuing on to a more detailed look at Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and England individually, *Saxons, Vikings, and Celts* explores the natural, anthropological, socio-political and finally genetic history of the isles. Sykes writing style is conversational, adding measured amounts of history and science and seasoned with just a touch of personal a...more
Interesting. Sykes goes through archeology, myth and written history to let us know what they tell us about the early inhabitants of Ireland and the UK. And then he writes about his project of collecting DNA from the current residents to see if this information collaborates any the information from other sources. The book answered a lot of my questions about how DNA is used in genealogy. The author also presents his theory of where the Celts came from.
I am not sure that I agree with all his rea...more
I am not sure that I agree with all his rea...more
Apr 27, 2008
Gwynwas
rated it
4 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Shelves:
history,
anthropology
Great book if your interested in the deep history of the Isles. I think it is a great book mostly because of the new light it sheds on previously unanwerable questions. Sykes led a multi-year genetic survey of the British Isles and here he sums up his findings. There is information here that you'll find nowhere else (at least that I'm aware of). This is the leading edge of applying genetic data to questions of historical migrations and culture change.
So, this is an absolute must-read if, like me...more
So, this is an absolute must-read if, like me...more
SAXONS, VIKINGS, AND CELTS: THE GENETIC ROOTS OF BRITAIN AND IRELAND BY BRYAN SYKES: Bryan Sykes, author of The Seven Daughters of Eve and Adam’s Curse, professor of human genetics at Oxford university, has spent many years of his life studying genes, chromosomes, and DNA; specializing in collecting data from all over the world and tracing ancestral lineages back thousands of years. Sykes was one of the instrumental geneticists in tracing all Europeans back to seven ancestral women. From this, S...more
This is a something of a genetic detective story. Where did the people of Great Britain originate? Archeology and history tell only part of the story - the rest is carried in the DNA of anyone who has British, Irish or Scotch ancestry. Dr. Sykes has made a career out of collecting DNA samples from a wide and diverse body of volunteers, from all over the world. This study focuses on the British Isles. I'm thinking seriously of submitting my own buccal swab for analysis - both Y-chromosomal and mi...more
A very interesting follow-up to The Seven Daughters of Eve. This book is written in the same scientific, yet familiar and accessible tone that I like Sykes so much for previously. If I had any doubts about the importance of genetics in revealing human history, they are gone. The author's comparison of his research results with the history and mythology of the Isles is fascinating. Of course, it's all far more interesting if you had ancestors from the British Isles. I can't wait until I can affor...more
The book had a good overview of the history of the British Isles and explained the process of migration into the isles and how DNA samples were collected. He gives names to the YDNA and matrilineal DNA clans but doesn't for the YDNA doesn't correlate the names to an actual haplotype. This is a draw back and the book should have included a list or chart. I had to google the clan names to find out where the clans originated. There was reference to more material being available at a website but tha...more
The findings are fascinating - even to the point of being a little startling - but there's also plenty of fluff here that seems to serve no purpose other than filling enough pages to merit a commercial printing. All the same, it was worth sitting through multiple descriptions of DNA sampling sessions and a paean to the best ice cream parlor in Wales in order to get to the meat hanging on this book's bones.
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