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The Subjection of Women

3.89 of 5 stars 3.89  ·  rating details  ·  1,354 ratings  ·  72 reviews
..".John Mill disagrees with the argument that women are naturally less good at some things than men, and should therefore be discouraged or forbidden from doing them. Mill Thought that men simply don't know what women are capable of, because we have never let them try - nobody can not make a statement without evidence. We can't stop women from trying things because they m ...more
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Published March 15th 2007 by Book Jungle (first published 1869)
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Petra X
I skimmed through The Subjection of Women but when I got to the passage on women's inferiority being that they don't produce original thought or works, I decided not to read the rest. If it's written from that paternalistic point of view, I can see that I would need to practice deep-breathing and that only delays the inevitable reaction. To sum up the book, Mill thought women were equal but... But the standards he used did not take into account this was not a level playing field. Ultimately he t ...more
muaad alqaydy
يقع في فصول
-الاول عن قانون القوة الذي بنيت عليه العلاقة بين الجنسين من القديم.
-الثاني عن أوضاع الزوج ومدى تعرض الزوجات للظلم الصارخ، وأنه لا يوجد كائن بشري فُرض عليه الرضى بالظلم سوى النساء،وأنهن أجبرن حتى الاقتناع أن دورهن في الحياة محصور في إرضاء الرجل وتلبية مراده.
ويقول أنه لا يوجد نموذج مقارب لمدى الظلم الواقع على النساء،إلا نموذج الرق الذي تم إلغاؤه،بل رق النساء أشد، أنهن ملزمات بالطاعة ساعة.
-الثالث عن عمل المرأة، وأنه ليس هناك أي عمل يؤديه الرجل لا يمكن للمرأة تأديته، وأن كل الحجج عن ض
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Wealhtheow
Jun 25, 2008 Wealhtheow rated it 4 of 5 stars
Recommended to Wealhtheow by: reading Mill for sociology
I need to reread this someday. But for now, a quote: "What is now called the nature of women is an eminently artificial thing — the result of forced repression in some directions, unnatural stimulation in others....in the case of women, a hot-house and stove cultivation has always been carried on of some of the capabilities of their nature, for the benefit and pleasure of their masters. Then, because certain products of the general vital force sprout luxuriantly and reach a great development in ...more
سمية التركي

الكتابُ قيّم, وفي غاية الترتيب, لكنّي عانيت في قراءته بسبب الترجمة؛ بعض الفِقر تأتي فيها الفِكرة مشوّهة غاية الصّعوبة, وحين أعيد قراءاتها أكتشف أن الفِكرة غاية الوضوح لكنّ الترجمة أبعدتها وعقّدتها.
الكتاب جاء في أربعة فصول:
الفصل الأول: قانون القوة
يقول ميل فيه: لا يمكن أنْ نجعل من طبيعة المرأة مبررا لبقائها في البيت للإنجابِ والزواج, ونحرمها مما سوى ذلك من الوظائف الأخرى والأعمال بحجة أنها مخالفةٌ لما فُطرتْ عليه, فبالتجربةِ وحدها نستطيع أن نعرف, وإذا كانتْ طبيعتها تستوجب بقاءها في البيت وتصرفها
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Mohammed
I read this for a new literary class about gender roles,power struggles through theories,literature.

It is not an easy read but it is written so impressively rhetorically, very intelligently. He expressed with great logic everything that is wrong with the male gender's power over women in his times. His arguments are very modern,bold but he was also realistic about the male powers not letting go their control of the other gender in his times.

The arguments are still used today and people use prett
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Marts  (Thinker)
Mill's 'Subjection of Women' is an essay favouring equality of the sexes, written in 1869 in coordination with his wife Harriet Taylor, the essay presents arguments opposing the social and legal inequalities of that time... In some cultures, such still exists...
Isil
Sep 26, 2008 Isil rated it 2 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: interested in feminism or history
Shelves: angleterre, xixe
Dans la première partie de cet essai, John Stuart Mill fait le point sur l’origine de la domination légale des hommes sur les femmes. Cette domination s’est faite dans un contexte de totalitarisme où les rapports de force étaient la règle. Mais à l’époque de Mill, la situation a changée. L’individu n’est plus condamné à être « par nature » ce qu’il était à sa naissance. Un homme peut s’élever dans la société (même si Mill en reconnaît la difficulté, rien ne s’y oppose légalement). Les deux seule ...more
Ryan Hirst
I have never needed another person's arguments to know that there is no justification for inequality between the sexes. The capacities of the mind are independent of gender. I have always known. The arguments are self-evident; they reiterate an elementary fact.

So, I began to read Mill's "Subjection of Women," out of curiosity, not any social or philosophical quest.

By the end of the first page, I was weeping. Have I heard another person speak this way? Is it this scarce, then?

Have you have met a
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Khulud
نعم ..كتاب لا غنى عنه للمرأة العربية..
يكفي أن تقرا لمقدمة لتعرف ما يحويه الكتاب.
كتب في القرن الثامن عشر عن وضع المرأة في انجلترا..الوضع السئ لأبعد حد..ولكنه مع مرور الزمن والسعي وراء التطور حررّ المرأة من عبوديتها للرجل هناك في برطانيا..ونعم استفاد المجتمع البريطاني من رأي الفلاسفة والكتاب وتقدموا...
أما للأسف نحن في مجتمعنا العربي –رغم اننا مسلمون ورغم الاسلام اختصر علينا سنوات من العبودية ورغم أننا عندنا من المثقفين الكثير إلا إننا ما زلنا –عمليا – في القرن الثامن عشر..
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Valerie
Charlotte Bronte commented that Mill was insufficiently concerned with the emotional aspects of life, though others pointed out that the parts she found most paternalistic often came not from Mill himself, but from his wife.

Mill and others tended to take for granted that the sphere of life designated as 'masculine' in the 19th century was the better and more valuable part of life. They raised important questions about the marginalization of 'minority' groups (women counted in this, though numeri
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Brandon Zaffini
I'm giving this book (it's really an essay) three stars because, well, it's John Stuart Mill, and out of respect for his thoughtfulness, I can't give him only two stars.

Mill's stated goal is to bring an end to the "legal subjection" of one sex to another, that "one sex" being women, of course. It is here that Mill is on the steadiest ground. Some of the laws he argues against do seem almost callously unjust, including laws concerning divorce, laws concerning domestic abuse, laws concerning joint
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محمود أغيورلي
مقتطفات من كتاب إستعباد النساء للكاتب جون ستيورات مل
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تصبح الصعوبة بالغة عندما يحاول المرء التأثير على الناس واقناعهم عن طريق "عقولهم " ضد مشاعرهم وميولهم العملية .. لاسيما اذا كان ايمانهم بالعادات والتقاليد والشعور العام اكثر مما ينبغي الى درجة قد تبلغ حد التقديس .. بل انهم يعتقدون ان انتشار عادة من العادات وبقائها ردحاً من الزمن دليل قوي على تحقيقها لأغراض محمودة فلا يصح ان نقول عنها انها عادة مذمومة
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ان الموجودات البشرية لم تعد تولد في اوضاع محددة سلفا وانما تولد حرة في
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Asmaa
جون ستيوارت من الكتاب المميزين في الحديث عن المرأه حيث انه لا يحصرها في دور الضحيه بل انه يشير دائما لكون سبب نظره المجتمع لها الان علي ان قضيتها ضد القواعد كونها تجعل من نفسها دائما الضحيه وكذلك فان السبيل الوحيد لنجاح قضيتها هو تفاعل الذكور معها .
يبدأ ستيوارت بان الاديان السماويه لم تفعل اي شيء حيال محنه العبيد بل بالعكس كانت الكنيسه اهتمامها الاول تجاه نفوذها ان يتحقق.و يقر هنا ان البشريه دائما بصدد وضع القوانين التي تقسم البشر الي طبقه عليا وطبقه ادني وهذا ماحدث في عصر ارسطوا وبعدها علي النس
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Saly Civil
استعباد النساء"
الكتاب مكون من اربع فصول يناقش الظلم الذي كانت تواجهه المرأة في انكلترا في القرن التاسع عشر
-الفصل الاول عن قانون القوة وسيطرة الرجل على المرأة واعتبار استعباد المرأة هو النوع الوحيد من العبودية الذي لازال مستمراً حتى الآن.
-الفصل الثاني عن حقوق المرأة المسلوبة في الزواج وحرمانها من حرية الرأي في ابسط الامور.
-الفصل الثالث هو عن عمل المرأة حيث يناقش ان من الممكن للمرأة ان تمارس اي عمل ولكن المشكلة انه تم الحكم عليها بعدم القدرة من دون التجربة وبهذا فقد المجتمع جزء هائل من الطاقات الت
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Lynn Joshua
Very impressive logic, excellent writing style, good insights. Mill was an early feminist in the sense that he argued that society should allow women equal rights under the law, including the right to vote and own property. He was not (as many feminists are today) scornful of traditional roles for women; he believed that traditional gender roles were desirable, but he argues that women should not be barred from any field where they are able to succeed. When women are treated unjustly, not only d ...more
Rori
من المؤلم أن تقرأ هذه الأفكار التي أصبحت جزءاً من الماضي في الغرب بينما تعلم أننا لازلنا نصارعها في عالمنا العربي.
سنة مضت على هذا الكتاب، ونحن لازلنا نعيش في صفحاته الأولى.

جون ستيوارت ميل صاغ في هذا الكتاب الصغير أسمى معاني العدل والنظرة المحايدة للمرأة على انها بكل بساطة إنسان لا يختلف عن الرجل في قدراته العقلية والعملية، ورغباته وحقوقه في الحياة والعدل والحرية. يعتقد جون أن ما نسميه "الميل الفطري" للمرأة أو الوضع الإجتماعي البديهي لها انما هو نتاج رغبة الرجل في حصرها بذلك القالب، وليس لأن طب
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Elisabeth Sepulveda
Necessary book for that time period, but when read in context of Mill's "Principles of Political Economy", his perspective on women entering the workplace is not truly intended as an absolute shift, but rather an introduction of the option for further education/opportunities for women, with an assumption that many will remain in their homes.

I also thought it was inconsistent to say that "differences" in women and men occur as a result of women not having the opportunities to manifest qualities s
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Mark
Male feminists in the 19th century weren't exactly a common breed, even if by "feminist" you're only talking about moderate feminists and not ultra-feminists (you know, the ones who use words such as "womyn" and "herstory.")

The very modern and practical approach Mill takes to the issue of women's rights is astonishing. He actually dedicates a few pages to saying that although he shouldn't have the burden of proof in showing why women should be treated as equals, and that the individuals against
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Jarkko Leinonen
Kuivakkaa 1800-luvulle ominaista asiaproosaa, joka ei kaihda polveilevia lauserakenteita ja muuten vaan ylipitkiä virkkeitä. Naisten tasaveroisen yhteiskunnallisen aseman oikeuttaminen vastaamalla kuvitteelliseen argumentaatioon heidän luontaisesta typeryydestään taikka hermoheikkoudestaan ei juurikaan vaikuttanut relevantilta tänä päivänä enää. Kirjan parasta antia olikin satunnaiset ajankuvaukset 1800-luvun puolivälin Britanniasta ja hämmästyttävän misogynistiset lainopit; myös tarinat vielä v ...more
Diana
More supplemental reading or my history class. I enjoyed reading this one, because it gives a man's view on the women's suffrage movement and what he felt about it though you could tell he still felt women weren't completely capable of doing what men could. If you enjoy women's history I highly recommend it. If for nothing else, just to get a differing view on the beginning of the women's rights movement. Truthfully though a bit dry to modern tastes I think everyone should at least try to read t ...more
Alli
An essay written in the 1800s holding concepts that people in the 21st century still cannot seem to grasp: The equality of women to men. "That the principle which regulates the existing social relations between the two sexes - the legal subordination of one sex to the other - is wrong in itself, and now one of the chief hindrance to human improvement; and that it out to be replaced by a principle of perfect equality, admitting no power or privilege on the one side, nor disability on the other."
Kevin Kelsey
Written in 1861 and first published in 1869, though an arduous read, this was way ahead of it’s time. Although incredibly forward thinking, it is still a product of the 19th century, and it shows occasionally.

The author gets a lot of criticism for the few times that he does a disservice to the current women of his time, in an attempt to do a service to the potential women of the future. If you follow his train of thought long enough, he always has valid reasoning for his argument. Mainly, that w
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Sara Murphy
well written, articulate and easy to read. He writes without pretension and with a steady, controlled manner. By all means, a substantial contribution to literature and philosophy. However, some minor discrepancies irked me such as occasional contradictions about what women should and should not do (in regards to social life, marital life, etc.) and other judgments and opinions that seemed narrow-minded, kept me from fully accepting the text as accurate and relevant. Granted, the book was publis ...more
Matt


There remain no legal slaves, except the mistress of every house.

—John Stuart Mill


This essay was written by John Stuart Mill in 1869 as a plea for equality of the genders.



Reading notes

There is no reason to subjugate women. The reason why the subjugation of women came about is the rule of the strongest. This subjugation is a relic of when might was right and this relic has no place in the modern world. Because men are usually able to physically subjugate women, men historically have. As we

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Jesse
The title, "On the Subjection of Women", doesn't really leave you wondering what this book is about. John Stuart Mill is writing in 1869, notably just after the American Civil War, about the rights and necessary equality of women, both in society at large and within family units. Despite a few overlooked details, it's both incredibly prescient and well-argued for its time.

Mill starts out by describing what he considers systematic oppression of women, comparing their situation to that of (former,
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Hellen
This is a very interesting and (sadly) still relevant book/essay on the position of women in society. What's interesting about it is that it goes to the core of the dichotomy: why are men and women in the positions they're in nowadays (or well, in 1869)? While evolutionary psychology still gains popularity and pseudo-scientific ideas nestle in the thoughts on gender of many ("(wo)men are simply more suited for this kind of work, because back in the days, when we still lived in caves...") and thr ...more
Haythem Bastawy
It's a great landmark in the quest for women's rights. It is one of the first European books to tackle the subject in such a direct manner. I know from Mill's autobiography that Mill was not alone in promoting and beliving in women's right to equality, and maybe without the support of a close group of friends this book would never have seen the light.

In spite of the value of the book as the earliest known logical argument for women's rights, The Subjection of Women unfortunately contains at lea
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John Baldwin
For the last year or so, I've been absolutely hooked on 19th century literature...and I fell in love with it completely by accident. I ignorantly had thought this century was historically banal, but boy was I wrong. First came Thoreau, then Emerson, Whitman, Mill, William James, Darwin, Marx, W.K. Clifford, and now Tolstoy....the list is getting longer:-) The suffragist movements in both England and the United States were essentially started by this book written by Mill in close collaboration wi ...more
رامي
الكتاب ده بيوضح مدي التخلف الفكري للمجتمع الشرقي

جميع الافكار التي وردت بالكتاب تعتبر امر انتهي منه الغرب ولا حاجة لهم لقراءة مثل تلك الدعوة بحق المساواة بين الرجل والمرآة حيث انه بالفعل قد تحقق ولو حتي اغلابية الافكار الواردة بالكتاب

الكتاب صدر في القرن التاسع عشر اي منذ حوالي 200 عام ورغم ذلك لازالت تعاني مجتمعتنا الشرقية من ما كانت تدعو اليه الحركات التحررية للمرآة قديماً وقد تحقق الان في اوربا

الافكار الواردة عن حرية المرآة هي حريتها في اختيار العمل المناسب لها وأتاحة الفرصة كاملة امامها لتقا
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Kate E
Excellent, excellent essay by John Stuart Mill laying out the argumentations for why and how women were treated as "less than slaves" in the late 1800s. He gives many reasons for why women should have all of the same opportunities that men have, stating that the general abilities and capabilities of women cannot be determined based on what women as a whole have done. Individuals are largely influenced by their environment. A person who is given no education, and who is taught from infancy to sub ...more
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John Stuart Mill, British philosopher, political economist, civil servant and Member of Parliament, was an influential liberal thinker of the 19th century. He was an exponent of utilitarianism, an ethical theory developed by Jeremy Bentham, although his conception of it was very different from Bentham's.
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