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Irredeemable, Vol. 2 (Irredeemable #2; issues 5-8)

by Mark Waid, Peter Krause (Illustrator)

4.01 of 5 stars 4.01 · rating details · 762 ratings · 46 reviews

Legendary comic writer Mark Waid (KINGDOM COME) takes superhero comics to the next level asking the question, “What if the world’s greatest superhero decided to become the world’s greatest super-villain?”A comic book industry events continues: volume two of the new original ongoing superhero series from Mark Waid! IRREDEEMABLE dares to ask the question: what if the world's...more

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Published March 23rd 2010 by BOOM! Studios (first published March 2nd 2010)

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Aug 26, 2011 Oscar Salas rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novels

Ya no hay vuelta atrás.

En este segundo volumen aparecen las razones por las cuales el Plutoniano se ha vuelto contra la humanidad que juró proteger, y debemos juzgar si sus razones son atendibles o no.

Un comic duro de leer, incómodo y hasta desagradable por lo jugado de su premisa, especialmente cuando reconoces los pilares del mito de Superman pervertidos, mas no por malicia imberbe, sino por resaltar su grandeza, justamente, a través de la oposición.

Muy recomendado si eres lector iniciado. Muy...more

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Mar 04, 2013 Chris rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: ya, superheroes, adult, graphic, guys-read, dark

Entitled. It's a word that gets thrown around a lot and seems to mean something different to each person who uses it. In a world where an impervious, ultra-powerful hero has the capability of hearing and responding to every cry for help, it might mean that we are each entitled to a response from that hero in every instance. At least, that's the way it feels to the Plutonian: constant, never ending, thankless demands for his help.

The further I read in this series, the more I appreciate the metaph...more

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Jan 04, 2013 J.E. Remy rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novel

This was a bit better than the first collection, although it still feels like it's holding back to me. This collection introduced a character that is very self-aware of the status of black characters in comic books (noting the commonality of black characters with electrical powers--e.g. Static, Jakeem Thunder, Black Lightning, etc.). While I appreciate the introduction of the character, I wonder if Waid realizes that by introducing him so late in the game, and by making his power seem to be a bi...more

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Nov 18, 2012 Sam Quixote rated it 5 of 5 stars

As Plutonian continues his nightmarish campaign of terror against those he was sworn to protect like a vengeful Old Testament God made real, his former teammates in Paradigm scramble to find Plutonian’s arch enemy Modeus in an effort to counteract his reign of terror. But to do so is to enter Plutonian’s Citadel, a dark and lonely place forged of blackest hate...

I love Irredeemable’s story concept - Superman-type snaps after the pressure of years of being responsible for everyone becomes too mu...more As Plutonian continues his nightmarish campaign of terror against those he was sworn to protect like a vengeful Old Testament God made real, his former teammates in Paradigm scramble to find Plutonian’s arch enemy Modeus in an effort to counteract his reign of terror. But to do so is to enter Plutonian’s Citadel, a dark and lonely place forged of blackest hate...

I love Irredeemable’s story concept - Superman-type snaps after the pressure of years of being responsible for everyone becomes too much for him, and goes on an insane killing rampage taking out all of his frustration on the people of Earth. It’s brilliant because it’s a Superman-like story except where everything worked out for Big Blue, everything goes wrong for the Plutonian. Where Superman was raised by the kind and loving Jonathan and Martha Kent, Plutonian went through a string of foster parents, all terrified of this super-boy who manages to destroy their lives without meaning to and unable to give him the unconditional love he craves. It’s really sad and another brilliant touch to this doomed character.

The second book is as brilliant as the first with Mark Waid exploring how a god-like being goes from being the saviour of a planet to its destroyer. The episode where alien tech is given to a human scientist by the Plutonian and then going horribly wrong is particularly chilling. It works as a piece of horror as well as perfectly illustrating the flipside of the kind of incident that happens regularly in superhero comics like Fantastic Four and Superman.

Waid opens the story up by giving another character powers to combat Plutonian but still manages to create tension and excitement as he sends the less powerful superheroes to Plutonian’s hideout, giving them a glimpse into how far gone his mind has broken. That sequence was just amazing. Waid’s super-dark approach to superhero comics works so well, I can’t recommend this series enough. “Irredeemable” is sheer genius, both the first one and this second book - do yourself a favour and pick it up today!(less)

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Jan 16, 2011 William Thomas rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: believe-the-hype, bad-asses-doing-bad-ass-things, fantasy, graphic-novel, modern-literature, post-watchmen-comic-books, pitch-perfect

We've gone too far now to look back. Whether you would like to admit it or not, comic books are no longer a childish and immature fad read primarily by adolescent boys who worship violence and stare at rocket-breasted women in scantily clad outfits. Comic books are a very real and legitimate art form. Both in their aesthetic and in their writing. You can try very hard to argue the opposite, but, at the end of that argument, I don't see you winning the debate. There are too many instances of lite...more We've gone too far now to look back. Whether you would like to admit it or not, comic books are no longer a childish and immature fad read primarily by adolescent boys who worship violence and stare at rocket-breasted women in scantily clad outfits. Comic books are a very real and legitimate art form. Both in their aesthetic and in their writing. You can try very hard to argue the opposite, but, at the end of that argument, I don't see you winning the debate. There are too many instances of literary books lining the shelves these days that pack more punches in their plotting than the superheroes that are being written about.

Mark Waid is Irredeemable. Mark Waid is a powerhouse of writing these days. BOOM studios must be bathing in the moey he is single-handedly making for them with, what, 4 or 5 monthly titles he alone is writing?

Mark Waid surprised me a long time ago by writing Kingdom Come. I would have never expected that story out of him, after writing Flash and Captain America, I didn't think he had Kingdom Come in him. But Alex Ross helped to pull it out and it is one of the greatest books ever written, whether you know the DC comics mythos or not. Go read it. Now.

But then that was really it. That was all he seemed to have in him as far as pushing the limits of what these books could do. After he fizzled out in the mainstream, he moved on to CrossGen and created some books like Rune that were just godawful. And I didn't really care for his superhero books like Flash and Captain America. There was nothing to them. Nothing substantial I cared about.

And I know I'm late on this one. I know. I just didn't have a single ounce of faith in him or this book, not any of the new books for that matter. I couldn't bring myself to really care enough to spend four dollars on a single issue to check it out because Mark Waid failed to register with me a long time ago. But I saw them at the library in the trade volumes and took a chance. Now, I can't get over how good they are. I can't get past how consistent each issue in each volume has been. And it only got bwtter from the first to the second to the third, keeping a steady flow of surprises and twists with a consistent increase in intrigue and it's overall feel of doom. I thought it peaked in volume one and would taper off, having nothing but issues of falling action forever after. But no, it continues to press on and give the reader exactly what they need, even if it isn't what they want.

Mark Waid is making the same kind of statement with this book as he did with Kingdom Come. He is creating moral conundrums and asking more questions about power than he is answering. He is asking questions concerning power and responsibility. Not duty, but responsibility, and he differentiates the two through the show of power in each character and through their separate flashbacks, showing instances of their own regret, their own shame, their own secrets. He is creating a world where each individual hero has to take responsibility for their actions, or lack thereof, instead of a blind duty. And it is their power that creates this sense of responsibility, that we also see soon becoming vendetta and revenge in certain characters.

And that is the central question in this book, surrounded by secrets and lies- if you have all the power, what is to stop you from doing as you please and not what you should do out of your sense of responsibility? And he doesn't answer that question. Not yet. Maybe not ever. But while you're reading it, think about it. Think about power and respnsibility and what they mean at a very basic, moral level. (less)

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Jan 15, 2011 Addison rated it 4 of 5 stars

This volume is better than the first volume, but still not quite a five star. Of all of the ongoings I'm reading in singles or trades currently being published, after the first eight issues this has been the most exciting. Usually I would never spend 17$ on a four issue trade, but it's an indie publisher and more importantly addictive as hell. I'm doing everything I can not to buy up the next three volumes along with the first volume of Incorruptible tomorrow. All of the foreshadowing, hints, an...more

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Aug 01, 2010 Erik rated it 3 of 5 stars

The manager at my local comic book haunt recommended this title a year back, as he knows my particular tastes. But as the comic book/graphic novel aficionado has to quickly filter out the crap from the true worthy gems, I passed on Waid and Krause’s superhero-fallen-from-grace concept. So it wasn’t until this past month at Comic-Con down in glorious sunny San Diego when I passed the two at the Boom! Studios booth that I finally decided to pick it up the first two olumes. And I even got them sign...more The manager at my local comic book haunt recommended this title a year back, as he knows my particular tastes. But as the comic book/graphic novel aficionado has to quickly filter out the crap from the true worthy gems, I passed on Waid and Krause’s superhero-fallen-from-grace concept. So it wasn’t until this past month at Comic-Con down in glorious sunny San Diego when I passed the two at the Boom! Studios booth that I finally decided to pick it up the first two olumes. And I even got them signed by both Waid and Krause. (Two of the nicest guys in the industry, I swear to you.)

Waid takes his narrative cue straight from Orson Welles’ Citizen Kane and Albert Camus’ existential nihilism in The Fall, as Irredeemable’s narrative is split between the main storyline after the Plutonian has fallen from grace, intercut with flashbacks to his halcyon days as the leader of the world’s premier superhero team. We learn of the Plutonian’s slow descend into the heart of darkness through the eyes of his former teammates. But Waid is clever enough not to reveal all his cards.

There are clearly pieces of this tragic fall that are purposely missing, and which Waid is waiting to tell us. What role does his former nemesis, Modeus, play in this? Did he instigate this, or will he be able to help? Waid equivocates on this, which not only adds to the dramatic tension as the crises mount, but makes Irredeemable transcend the overwrought clichés inimical to the superhero genre. (And honestly, he needs to keep us readers guessing as long as possible. No neat, tidy ends do I wish out of this series. At least not until series’ end, which I hope Waid has in mind.)

Krause’s art is standard fare in the superhero genre – not unlike Brent Anderson’s work in Astro City – but it perfectly juxtaposes the ordinary with the mind-boggling . (And John Cassaday’s covers, reprinted in the back pages of both volumes, are – as usual – aesthetically stunning.) Boom! Studios may be a relative newcomer in the comics business, but there sure have a grip on publishing good stuff. (I won’t knock it until I’ve tried it, but their Muppet Show comic has garnered many Eisner and Harvey nominations. Who would have thought?)

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Mar 28, 2010 Nicola rated it 5 of 5 stars

I am hooked on this series that centres around the mightiest superhero who suddenly turns to the dark side and becomes the most evil super villain. We start out by meeting the last living member of The Plutonium's former superhero group, The Volt and a flashback to his joining of the group. This book heavily focuses on the group members as they regroup, try to locate The Plutonium and figure a way to bring him down. The dynamics between them and the individual personalities all take shape. There...more

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May 31, 2013 Reid Carter rated it 4 of 5 stars

After the vagueness and general evil of volume one, volume two takes a step back from the action and focuses instead on the "why." I'm torn, because this is both exactly what I asked for while reading the first one and still somehow not what I wanted. I don't find myself really all that concerned with the characters and their plight, and I think that's where this one is losing me. Now that the plot has cemented itself and is as compelling as it is (I don't want this to turn into a negative revie...more

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Nov 03, 2011 Rosalia rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2011, graphic-novels, superheroes

This volume of Irredeemable focuses more on The Paradigm, the group that The Plutonian belonged to at one point. The remaining members are trying to figure out how they can possibly get Plutonian back under control by looking into his past.

I believe in this volume we see the start of the incidents that pushed Plutonian over the edge. HIs guilt about the virus and his reaction to Samsara finding out definitely felt very catalysty to me.

It's interesting to see how Paradigm's group dynamic is shi...more

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Dec 28, 2012 Jays rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: beach-reads, just-for-the-pictures

Continuing the story from the first volume, we get a little more back story as to why the Plutonian has gone all Dark Phoenix on us and it's refreshing (though not surprising, given how good of a writer Mark Waid is) to learn that it's not the result of some comic book-y contrivance like an alien possession or something, but rather something much more human and grounded.

I remain underwhelmed by the artwork, but the story is picking up a little bit. The emotional heft that was a little lacking i...more

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Nov 20, 2012 Martin rated it 4 of 5 stars

In this collection, Mark Waid gives us a few more pieces of the puzzle surrounding the Plutonian and his becoming Evil, but as is often the way of things, the answers we get only bring about MORE questions.

There only being 4 issues collected in this book naturally makes this a quick read, and I think the book's pacing is also a bit faster this time around. Since there's a bit more happening, I was more interested to seek out subsequent volumes than I was at the end of Irredeemable, Volume 1. Sti...more

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Aug 31, 2012 Zedsdead rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novels

I'm giving up on Irredeemable.

It still shows bits of promise, when it explores what tipped the Plutonian over the edge. Those pages are gripping but few and far between. The rest of the time it sticks too close to the tired Marvel/DC superhero formula. Far too much Superman and not nearly enough The Boys. Villainous plans are nonsensical, plot 'twists' are convenient and contrived, and with few exceptions, character motivations are simple and uniform.

Waid is also trying much too hard to maintain...more

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Aug 05, 2011 Bill Williams rated it 3 of 5 stars

The Irredeemable story by Mark Waid & Peter Krause rumbles along in this trade paperback as the heroes situation is more dire than ever. The breakdown suffered by The Plutonian is put into context to make him something of a sympathetic character. That veneer of nastiness, of pointless superhero decadence, keeps me from caring much or fully engaging in the story. The story has a high level of professionalism and is clever in places, but the nihilism is off putting for me.

But the covers by Gen...more

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Dec 22, 2010 Justin rated it 2 of 5 stars

Question: What do you do when the world’s greatest superhero becomes the world’s greatest super-villain?

Answer: Does anything happen at all?

According to the second volume of IRREDEEMABLE, Mark Waid’s post-apocalyptic, hero-gone-bad series (the brother series of Waid’s INCORRUPTIBLE), apparently, nothing at all really happens.

First, nonplussed readers of the first volume of this series are truly encouraged to revisit it before continuing the monthly exploits of the world’s greatest hero (Think of...more Question: What do you do when the world’s greatest superhero becomes the world’s greatest super-villain?

Answer: Does anything happen at all?

According to the second volume of IRREDEEMABLE, Mark Waid’s post-apocalyptic, hero-gone-bad series (the brother series of Waid’s INCORRUPTIBLE), apparently, nothing at all really happens.

First, nonplussed readers of the first volume of this series are truly encouraged to revisit it before continuing the monthly exploits of the world’s greatest hero (Think of him as Superman with the heart of Lex Luthor—times 10) and the once-teammates of the Plutonian (Think of them as a B-list of Justice Leaguers) trying desperately to stop him from destroying the world.

Upon a re-visitation of the first volume, readers might glimpse what this particular critic did not: that the series certainly holds potential. Questions abound and readers will look forward to having these questions answered. What inevitably made the Plutonian “switch teams” and decide to destroy the world, rather than protect it? What is the relationship between the Plutonian and each of his former comrades? Is there relationship enough there between Plutonian and any of his former Paradigm teammates that can resolve this earth-shattering (no pun intended) conflict?

Unfortunately, by the end of the first volume, readers will discover (again) that the answers do not come quickly or readily enough. Furthermore, by the end of the series’ second volume, those questions still remain unanswered, which becomes one of the most frustrating elements of this series. More often than not, IRREDEEMABLE reads too much like a mini-series with an endgame in sight (though only through Waid’s vision, apparently), because readers cannot imagine that this narrative could last forever. Before long, either the Plutonian will succeed in destroying the world or the former members of the Paradigm will emerge triumphant; however, a narrative of this nature does not beg to be told in more than a dozen issues, let alone a hundred.

Meanwhile, Krause’s artwork remains as consistent as it did with the series’ first volume. Admittedly, Krause has a style that is minimalist, it more often than not appears underdeveloped and sketchy, failing to provide the characters the dynamic emotive look that the series desperately demands at this point, if the pacing doesn’t pick up soon. This isn’t to suggest that the artwork is substandard; it fits only “nicely” with the writing itself. Neither contribution overshadows the other, but readers might be looking for something—either a widescreen approach to storytelling or a widescreen approach to artwork—to justify their following of IRREDEEMABLE.

Ultimately, though, this criticism isn’t a profound indictment against the series. Patient readers will enjoy (slowly) watching the Plutonian cross each individual line that moves him further away from humanity and good will and will (slowly) watching the surviving members of the Paradigm (slowly) die or (slowly) escape death. Beyond that, IRREDEEMABLE is certainly a slow burn. Only individual readers will be able to determine if there’s spark enough to encourage them to continue following this series, where so little is known about the Paradigm heroes to make them relevant to readers and what is known about the Plutonian is more than enough to make him unsympathetic.

For without concrete origins for these characters (readers have little to no real understanding of the full potential of their powers and role in this world), they oftentimes appear as insignificant to readers as they apparently do to the Plutonian, who is capable of running through them like a locomotive through crepe paper. Fortunately, the characters of Cary and Bette are provided enough growth within this particular volume both to demonstrate that the relationship the Plutonian has fostered with the Paradigm heroes is complicated and to propel the action of the major conflict forward.

Unfortunately, at the rate this series is going, the true potential of these heroes (rather lost in the swarm of others that readers cannot help but not care for) might not come to fruition before the Plutonian recognizes his goal of destroying the world as readers know it…

…Unless, of course, Waid destroys this series first.

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Dec 14, 2012 AGraphicMaduck rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: irredeemable

liked it, but starting to worry re: "humanizing" plutonium, i.e. he's not just a complete evil bad ass, I get that the story had to go in this direction after the first volume (I mean how much of him just being terrible can you do, if it's a situation like that it's a self contained one volume story)...Interesting to have him meet at "counter part" who beats him up. However, SPOILER ALERT I do have an issue with the dude (forgot his name) who beat up Plutonium letting him essentially go. I mean...more

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Apr 13, 2011 Patrick added it

The action continues to heat up in this second installment of Irredeemable, loaned to me by friend. Not as many chillingly shocking moments, but the childhood virus is a satisfying standout. Looks like all the Plutonian ever really wanted was a "Fortress of Solitude" to block out the constantly pressing and berating bold, fresh steaming piles of humanity. Goes a long way in answering what happens to the only man who can't shrug and say "I'm no Superman."

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Oct 16, 2012 Anne rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novels, read-in-2012, random-grabs-from-library

Volume 2 of Irredeemable is just as good as the 1st.
You get a little more back story, and the reason things went wrong become a bit clearer.
Plutonian's decent into madness slowly unfolds, and while you never feel he is justified, you start to feel for him. A little bit. Sorta.

The other characters are just as interesting. None of them are Good, or particularly Evil, either. Waid did an excellent making these superheroes seem quite human.

Highly recommended!

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Jul 30, 2011 M rated it 3 of 5 stars

In the aftermath of last volume's destruction, things begin to change for the former team Paradigm. Taking a gamble to storm the stronghold of the Plutonian, secrets about his relationships with former teammates come to light. Meanwhile, surviving member Charybdis reveals not one, but two aces in the hole - and alters the game in a new way. A nice exploration of these new characters.

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Jul 25, 2012 Joe Young rated it 5 of 5 stars

Mark Waid - writer
Peter Krause - artist

5/5 stars

In Volume 2 we see the events that led The Plutonion to turn his back on humanity, secrets from the Paradigm's past threaten to shatter the fragile group, and a surprising turn of events seems to signal a slim hope for an embattled world. More excellent stuff from Waid & Krause. Highly recommended.

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Jun 28, 2012 Traci Haley rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2012, graphic-novels

I really ended up liking this series, but I'll admit that I didn't like Irredeemable as much as Incorruptible -- the storylines were, at times, hard to follow, and I often lost track of characters. That being said, the artwork is AMAZING and the main storyline about the Plutonian is compelling. Both books are well worth the read.

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Jan 30, 2011 Rodney rated it 3 of 5 stars

I started this series after Tom Merritt on one of the TWIT shows stated this was the best series of the year. With this being only the 2nd issue, I don't have enough knowledge if this is correct or not, but what I can say is I'm enjoying it a great deal.

I just love the concept. I've always thought Superman was a boring superhero. His powers were too vast. However, flipped around the character becomes far more interesting. How does one fight evil. What drives someone to do the things they do. Ca...more

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Jan 30, 2010 Alan rated it 3 of 5 stars

I'm among those who think that Mark Waid could pick up the pacing a little bit on the story telling side of things. A large plus in this volume is that we find out what drove the Plutonian over the edge has essentially made a superman the biggest mass murder and tyrant in the history of the world.

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Mar 20, 2011 Neil rated it 4 of 5 stars

Waid continues his post-modern deconstruction of a superman archetype gone over to the dark side. Godlike and unstoppable, the world lives in fear and people die by the millions as the Plutonian continues his insane destruction.

Good stuff.

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Apr 16, 2012 Morgan rated it 4 of 5 stars

Solid storytelling with some really amazing reveals. I feared that while the initial trade was gripping that the story would run on rails or tire out, but much to my surprise somehow Waid has quite a bit of good story to tell here.

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Feb 16, 2013 Vernon Brian rated it 3 of 5 stars

This trade read a bit faster than Vol. 1 for me. It's interesting to me how the Plutonian changes after the different crisis' he's dealt with. I say, what a great way to spend a lazy weekend, enjoying these one after the next!

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Dec 26, 2009 Jason Seaver rated it 4 of 5 stars

The path to the Plutonian's breakdown and the possibility of eventually defeating him continues in the second collection, with another set of four issues that both tell good individual stories and work as a serial.

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Mar 16, 2010 J. Shimotake rated it 4 of 5 stars

This is the best of the grimdark "Heroes aren't always Heroic" riff that guys like Millar and Ennis love writing. Civil War's epic and "The Boys" is funny and Kick-ass is what it claims, but Irredeemable is the only one that just tells the goddamn story. Feels a lot like the first few arcs of "Invincible" by Robert Kirkman. And thanks, Mark Waid, for my first "OH SHIT!" moment of the year.

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Jun 13, 2010 Sonic rated it 3 of 5 stars

Reminiscent of Alan Moore's "Miracle Man/Marvel Man" and Straczynski's "Squadron Supreme" and also Mark Millar's "Wanted," and yet this is it's own thing and it is a good story that is fun to read.

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Apr 19, 2011 Bevans rated it 5 of 5 stars

There's a phrase rolling around in my head right now: "Better than Watchmen". I don't know if it is, because I haven't read the whole series yet, but the phrase just keeps popping up.

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