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Not Less Than Gods (The Company #8.5)

3.49 of 5 stars 3.49  ·  rating details  ·  316 ratings  ·  68 reviews
On a dark evening in 1824, a lady is offered a ride home in the carriage of a dark and mysterious stranger and a boy is conceived, to the strains of Beethoven's brand-new setting to the Ode to Joy. Groomed from childhood to become a perfect British hero, young Edward Alton Bell-Fairfax proceeds uncertainly through public school, a career in the navy, mutiny and court-marti ...more
Hardcover, 328 pages
Published by Subterranean Press (first published December 31st 2009)
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Wealhtheow
Years ago, Kage Baker began the Company series, which followed near-immortal time-traveling cyborgs in their adventures throughout human history. Yes, they were as much fun as they sound--and exhibited an excellent grasp of history and a gift for tragedy, as well.

This book, not so much. It's a prequel to Mendoza in Hollywood, but is best read after The Children of the Company. The problem with this book is the cheeky, irreverant humor is missing, and the sense of impending doom is gone. And even
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Stefan
Your reaction to the announcement of Not Less Than Gods by consistently excellent SF and fantasy author Kage Baker will probably depend to a large extent on how familiar you are with her The Company series. If you haven't read any of the Company novels or collections, the story of the Gentlemen's Speculative Society (GSS) and one of its operatives, Edward Alton Fairfax-Bell, sounds like an interesting and entertaining steampunk novel. However, if you're familiar with the Company series, your rea ...more
Eva Folsom
OK, I know it's not exactly fair to grab the ninth book in a series--and a prequel, no less--and to judge it as a standalone book. Which I did. But seriously, I'm not sure exactly why I even finished this one. The characters were entirely unappealing, there were no women characters (unless you count the "characters" whose sole function was to have sex with the protags, or the brothel madam who has about four lines), and there was no point to the book, plot-wise. The story failed to have rising t ...more
Kara

Part of my disappointment may be because that, due to the author's untimely demise, this might be the last book I ever get to read by her, which makes everything so much worse. I blame the chemo and the cancer for clearly wreaking havoc with her ability to write a subtle, well crafted story that blends all sorts of history and science fiction along with strong characters and subtle re-workings of old themes, because none of that happened in this book. Again – not blaming the author, because I kn
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Phoenixfalls
This is an odd book, a standalone Company novel that I think would actually work better for someone who does not know the series than for those of us who know and love it (which might explain the very lackluster reviews I've seen of it online).

Not Less Than Gods is written in a third-person omniscient near-objective mode, meaning the narrator knows everything about everyone in the story but rarely delves into their thoughts and feelings, staying detached. Despite what the jacket would lead you t
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Lady Knight
"The Company" has long been a favorite series of mine and when I heard about this 'extra' chapter, I couldn't wait. Unfortunately this volume just doesn't live up to the rest of the series. It is an interesting take on the spy/assassin genre and does have the promised elements of steampunk and mysterious societies. What's missing here though is more of a plot! I honestly felt that all the characters did was globe trot, killed the odd 'bad guy' and moved on. Where's the greater plot? Okay, I know ...more
Leah
An enthralling exercise in moving the plot forwards, a story with no antagonists (not really), and very little to push the characters on, apart from a vague sense of duty and the thrill of science and secrecy.

Although it says it is the first Company novel, it clearly isn't, and probably means more to someone who's read other Company novels. Despite its lack of what one might call traditional plot, it is nevertheless compelling in its scene setting and technological slyness. The farce of Victori
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Donna
Edward Bell-Fairfax, a young man with unique abilities, joins a secret society focused on advancing technology, then travels around Europe getting information and meeting other branches of his group.

This is my first time reading Kage Baker. I enjoyed the overall style of the book and thought the world was really interesting, but I had some issues with the plot and characterization.

The pace was odd and repetitive. Things started off well enough, with Bell-Fairfax's backstory and training. He's li
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Steve
I picked this book up on my library's new fiction, but not rental shelf. It is about book 14 in the Kage Baker's "company" series. I don't plan on catching up on the books in this series.

The book involves a secret society that is about saving the world, with chapters across the world. There is a loose plot, but the book is about the characters using "technoligica" in part given to them by a time traveling future member who tells them what is going to happen in terms of war and even investment t
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Mark
Not Less Than Gods
By Kage Baker
Publisher: Tor / Tom Doherty and Assoc
Published In: New York City, NY, USA
Date: 2010
Pgs: 319

REVIEW MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS

Summary:
Edward Alton Bell-Fairfax, the issue of a secret society’s meddling in genetics, is raised a bastard in an absent adopted family situation. The society takes care of his needs and forces him along the paths that they want him to follow: schooling, Navy, etc. On his return from the Navy, the society initiates him in full, training him for th
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Samantha
Interesting backstory on the origins & early escapades of Edward Bell-Fairfax, who figures in the later Company novels with Mendoza. Not quite as well structured as some of the other novels, and it ends somewhat abruptly, but still a worthwhile read for those who enjoyed the Company series. You can read this without having read all of the other entries in the series.
Dave
I was so intrigued by the premise of the book: a steampunk Sherlock Holmes joins a secret society of technologically-advanced spies who take it upon themselves to drive the course of history. They travel to exotic places and engage in 19th-century espionage and derring-do while playing with sweet gadgets. It breaks down into tedium from the get-go. We hear a prolonged, detached history of our protagonist's upbringing. He's inducted into the society of surprisingly benign spies, and takes on a se ...more
Traci Loudin
Was really hoping this book would be interesting, because I've been wanting to read some good steampunk. Unfortunately, I'm on page 115 and just never got engaged with the book.

It starts out focused on some servants of the house watching this boy grow up. You might get a little attached to the military fellow, but then the boy is all grown up, and we start following him. The house staff are somewhat forgotten.

The boy thinks he's going to save the world... But interestingly, there's no conflict.
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Emily

I first encountered this author's work with her novella The Women of Nell Gwynne's and was immediately informed that my not having read the rest of the stories in her Company series was a crying shame.

Well, I'm still no further along in reading the rest of the Company novels, but I picked this one up by chance at the library- it's a sort of companion novel/bonus features that tells the story of one Edward Alton Bell-Fairfax, and his rise through the ranks of the Gentlemen's Speculative Society.
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MB
Apr 10, 2010 MB rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: The Company fans
It's a new Kage Baker--Yay! I'm guessing the last Kage Baker? (Such a loss.)

This one is wonderful! A little slow to start, but really takes off. It's a coming-of-age/victorian-era travelogue/mystery/spy story/ steampunk novel set in time before Mendoza in Hollywood about Edward Alton-Bell's early life. (Edward was never a favorite character of mine--at least at first--so I was looking forward to this with both anticipation AND trepidation.)

I don't know if I'd recommend that you read it YET if yo
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Deborah Ross
I have come late to Kage Baker's work. The good part of that is how many wonderful books I have yet to discover; the sad part, that I cannot tell her how much I enjoy them. So I must confess that NOT LESS THAN GODS is the first book of "The Company" I have read. For those familiar with this world, a story of "how it all started" furnishes background to characters and situations already known. The litmus test of such a tale, however, is whether it stands on its own without any referents. In short ...more
D.L. Morrese
The last Company novel Kage Baker published before her death is set in the mid-nineteenth century and follows the exploits of the genetically engineered Edward Alton Bell-Fairfax while on his first real assignment for the mysterious organization known as the Gentlemen’s Speculative Society. Because of the setting, this novel has a “steampunk” feel to it and includes the Society’s use of information and technology supplied from the future, presumably by the Company. This book shows the more human ...more
Shama Bole
I have a fondness for steampunk novels and this is definitely one of the more intriguing andf enjoyable reads in that genre. It centres around the "Great Game" but what makes that palatable is the book's lack of delusions about how that is about anything except power-grabbing by colonial nations. I enjoyed the descriptions that brought cities alive and the characters and the adventure - much like League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. It made me decide to start reading her books from the first one.
Diana Gotsch
If you have read Kage Baker's The Company series this book will make a lot more sense. It never really explains who or more correctly what Edward Bell-Fairfax is. Nor does it explain what the Company is what it is really up to. In fact the name Company is never used for the people manipulating the past for their own reasons. I suspect it could be very confusing for a novice reader of this series.

It is the tale of Edward's life before we meet him in Mendoza in Hollywood. It helps explain the man
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Bettie
Kage Baker has written many books I adore. Not Less Than Gods is not one of them. It just isn't fun. Part of the problem is that the hero of this novel, Edward Alton Bell-Fairfax, was such a smug, smarmy, and smashing anti-hero in other books. Seeing all the sad circumstances that led to Edward's selfish, semi-sociopathic ways was a humorless drag. The only reason I finished this book was because it was the second-to-last Kage Baker book I hadn't read, and the thought of there being no more new ...more
Alina
This novel is set in the same universe as The Garden of Iden (in which a Company of time travelers meddles with history), but isn't as good. It centers around a Frankenstein-like figure whose birth is arranged, and formative years stage-managed, by the Company's mysterious puppet master. Kage Baker handles the novel's pseudo-Victorian style beautifully, along with the period dialog and coined names for anachronistic technology. For me as an aspiring writer, the author's mastery of language inspi ...more
Me
Jan 25, 2011 Me added it
the Bechdel Test asks three things of a film: Does it include at least two female characters? Do they speak to each other? Do they speak about anything besides a man?" I was horrified to see that this book was written by a woman, as it does not pass the Bechdel test. It was a dry account of some Englishmen playing with steam punk toys and either pretending to be drunk or actually drunk, with an occasional fight scene. Basically a pale imitation of James Bond if he was a century older. I read a l ...more
Lisa
Enjoyed this, but I think mostly because I'd read the rest of the Company books already. It would be an odd one to read alone. Steampunky though, in a fun way.
Alisa
I read some of the reviews after I began the book, and having finished, can see why some readers were disappointed. In fact, I pretty much understood why even at that early stage, but felt compelled to read on given the countless hours of enjoyment Ms. Baker's "The Company" series has given me over the years. This book perhaps serves best as a footnote, albeit a lengthy one, to the first introduction of Edward Bell-Fairfax to the reader in that series. It does serve as a biography of Edward's ea ...more
Jeremy Preacher
Not Less Than Gods actually works better than some of the arc-focused Company novels, I think, although Edward ranks very low on my list of favorite characters. Spies running around Victorian Europe with mysterious technology and knowledge of future events is fun, whatever flaws the book has.

And it has them - really this is a character study, not a novel. There's no clear plot, no particular resolution. It's just a collection of setpieces. It does make me badly want to hunt down The Women of Nel
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Genevieve
Best for those already a fan of Kage Baker, this novel is a loosely plotted story of Edward, traversing the world with his associates of the Gentleman's Speculative Society. Those hoping for a viewpoint from within Edward's head will be disappointed - instead, we see the forces acting on him, warping him into the idealistic Victorian assassin and spy we meet in California in the mainline Company novels. Although it's more a tasting than a full meal, I enjoyed it as another dip into the world of ...more
Greg
Neither interesting, entertaining, well-written, nor compelling in any way. It quickly became trashy, boring, convoluted and confusing. I quit reading it without finishing it.

I'm beginning to wonder why I even bother to begin reading modern novels. Most aren't worth the paper they're printed on, and are light years less interesting than history, biographies, and other non-fiction. I still like some if the older fiction that's been around for awhile, but only rarely do I run across fiction writte
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Jenne
There was a lot of cool stuff in this book, but the people were pretty boring. And there was a whole lot of action, but not really in service of anything.
But the train was awesome. I loved the train:
"It resembled a giant serpent made of gleaming brass. The riveted apertures of its eyes were windows, behind whose pale transparency a pair of uniformed men could be glimpsed, apparently seated at a control panel. In its grinning jaws it held a faceted jewel, which threw a brilliant beam of light fo
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Graham Crawford
Serious mixed feelings about this book. The first half was good, but on finishing reading it, I literally threw it across the room shouting "what a piece of shit!"
maybe limitations of the steampunk genre?.... Once we've had a couple of hundred pages of Ottoman- Brit politics and a bunch of 20th century gizzmos dressed up in brass cogs and Victorian filigree, there ain't much more to say!
OH- and all women are corseted whores!
Blah!
Baker is SUCH a patchy writer !!
Ala
I would like to amend the rating to 4.75 stars, since that's really more accurate. I loved this book A LOT. Until the last 10 or 15 pages. Not only did things happen that I didn't like, but everything that happened beforehand all of a sudden had no purpose. This is a spy story set in the 19th century with neat gadgets from before their time. I loved the characters and their adventures, and I feel a sequel coming. Or maybe I'm just hoping for one.
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