Debt: The First 5,000 Years

Debt: The First 5,000 Years

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Before there was money, there was debt

Every economics textbook says the same thing: Money was invented to replace onerous and complicated barter systems—to relieve ancient people from having to haul their goods to market. The problem with this version of history? There’s not a shred of evidence to support it.

Here anthropologist David Graeber presents a stunning reversal o...more
Hardcover, 534 pages
Published July 12th 2011 by Melville House (first published 2011)
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Petr Havel
This book led me to re-think some of the fundamental aspects I have always thought our modern society is based upon: the basis of the current monetary system, market economies, the illusion of barter markets and most fundamentaly the way that debt is intertwined into the fabric of human interaction.

Overall this is pleasant read, as an overview of market and monetary history from an anthropological perspective. The book starts to lag in sections where the author tries to apply his own solutions t...more
David
Okay that's much better! Thanks for all the reviews
zerospinboson
Sep 22, 2011 zerospinboson rated it 5 of 5 stars Recommends it for: Everyone
I haven't finished reading yet, and I will try to write a more substantive review of this book once I've had time to wrap my head around the contents, but until such time has come, I would simply propose to consider this book the new answer to Douglas Adams's Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything. If you've ever wondered whether there is a connection between -- to name just a few things -- simple social obligations, the invention of money, slavery, taxation, coinage, the disapp...more
Patrick
This is a very thought-provoking analysis of the relationship between morality, debt, property, and money. Essentially, the author explores, through history and anthropology, the tension between the common beliefs that one should always pay one's debts and that to make a profit on lending money is wrong. In particular, this issue bears on our political unwillingness to change a situation where the vast majority of Americans will spend their lives paying off debts to a tiny minority who enjoy lud...more
Jeffrey Greggs
Definitely one the most interesting anthropologies I have read in years, almost like a Discours sur l'inégalité for the 21st century. It is a startling new vision of the way debt has operated in different societies historically, and it presents compelling moral objections to economic principles that are widely regarded as certainties.

Debt is also packed with examples from and insights into the whole of recorded history. Far too many examples to dilate upon here, but for two personal favorites s...more
Mike Dillon
Fantastic book. To quote the words of Arundhati Roy: "The trouble is that once you see it, you can't unsee it. And once you've seen it, keeping quiet, saying nothing, becomes as political an act as speaking out. There's no innocence. Either way, you're accountable."

Thanks for helping me see more clearly the true contours of the life we live. I guess I'm accountable now.
Bobsimmons
Reading this book has made a permanent change in the way I think about money and debt. This is one of handful of books I have read which has opened my mind to an entirely new way of thinking about something. David Graber explores the meaning of debt as a way of organizing society in many different cultures including our own. Highly recommended.
Kirk Battle
It's very interesting because Graeber is engaging with capitalism as an ideology and tearing into it with a lot of classic anthropology arguments. It's more Zizek and Taleb Nassim than Adam Smith.

So far Graeber has done a compelling job of arguing that money is not actually an intrinsic component of civilization or even an economy. The classic excuse by economists is first we had barter, then we had to create money in case people could only barter with goods people didn't want. I'm not sure how...more
Christoph
Many writers, commentators, talking heads, evangelists, drive-by philosophers, and the like tend to use a very common device of pointing to the extraordinary nature of "our time" if not as the basis of their thesis at least to emphasize it. As a matter of fact, history, if not contemporary history, is littered with examples of this. I'm sure it speaks to the narcissistic nature of these people or at least their latent desire for attention over substance, but whatever the case, David Graeber is n...more
Void lon iXaarii
I would call this an interesting but dangerous book. As opposed to other books in which every moment was a learning and enlightening enjoyment this book was exhaustingly tense because I found it to be a very confusing mix of dangerous (but plausible) ideas written in a smart way, and interesting historical or world data. So, I'll start the review with the negative things, and then move onto the positive ones:

- the author seems to have a clear agenda, of attacking capitalism & free market ide...more
Sandra Glenn
I became fascinated with the concept of 'money' a few years ago and quickly found my research hitting a brick wall: The Standard Narrative that supposes people first bartered directly (I'll give you twelve chickens for that goat), then began to use money to make such trade easier, and then credit was invented to simplify money transactions.

Graeber's is the first book I've found that cuts through that conceptual handwave and actually looks at the history of money and debt through the eyes of an...more
Austin Wimberly
This book made me think which is one of the best compliments I can give any piece of writing. As a layperson who is not well versed in economics or anthropology, I found this book a tad difficult. In the early chapters, it seems like Graeber takes for granted that his audience is as familiar with the material at hand as he is, so certain ideas are sort of briefly presented without as much depth as I might have liked. However, this is a survey of 5000 years, so how deep can it be and still fit on...more
Fred Garnett
I'd not read any of David Graebner before but this is the only book that makes sense of the current credit crunch. This is not because he explains how derivatives and sub-prime mortgages work, like Michael Lewis does in, or he gives an overview of the economic context, like Gillian Tett and others do, but because he shows that state debt has a 5,000 year-old history (the anecdotes about Alexander the Great are terrific) because it is used to pay for war. The origins of our current, obviously cyc...more
Brishen
Economic systems have had a notoriously hard time finding a way to work money in- a result of construction for some and a deliberate omission for others. An undergraduate economic course will usually describe the foundations of any economic system as one of barter further explaining that introducing money is utility increasing as it makes this barter much more efficient. Graeber starts off his monumental book by examining how this is completely historically inaccurate and that instead economies...more
Dave
Much of this book is very dry, having said this, this is one of those books that forever changes the way I will view the world. It covers the last 5000 years extensively….. The monetization of every human need, misery and desire. The compli...city of religion, in our acceptance to this condition…….. How misguided popular economic beliefs are. We defend with religious like zeal the disparity of our current system of economics and the current powers will villainies and demonize any competing econo...more
Lee Foust
Hadn't read a book on banking or economics since college in the 1980s and __The Money Lenders__. Mostly this is because, although a life-long fan of Gothic literature and horror movies, nothing has ever scared me more than __The Money Lenders__, a truly terrifying read. The international banking coalition is even more frightening than the so-called terrorists or the super powers and their nuclear stockpiles! Unlike a political edifice, subject often to voting, or revolution, or a coup, the banks...more
Emily
I had a difficult time slogging through Debt. It shares a similar problem with Niall Fergeson's completely unreadable "the Ascent of Money:" it mixes in the author's politics and political leanings with history to give everything this weird political sheen (in this case left to Fergeson's right.) In this case, Graeber's book covers more facts than political lecturing but it's bumped several stars for being overt.

However, Debt is a worthy read for anyone interested in the span of history from ear...more
Nigel
I surprised myself by finishing this book in under the 5000 years mentioned on the cover. The analysis was thought provoking in a philosophical kind of way; it wasn't a light read; it wasn't always a fun read; sometimes I learnt a little about history; sometimes i learnt too much (to take in) about history. Lots of sections flew over my head; I'm not too proud to say it. I'm not stupid, and I'm not a genius but what I CAN say is - if you do happen to be stupid, throw this book away NOW.

The writ...more
Keith Akers
I picked this book up hoping for some insight into our financial problems in their historical context. Well, I got that, and then some. This is a very impressive book, but the first thing you need to understand is that it doesn't have much to do with economics; it has to do with anthropology. So don't go to this book for information on the Federal Reserve or Keynes.

His pet peeve is the idea that money originated as a way to deal with the inconveniences of barter (I have corn, but don't need the...more
Justinbwood
Almost unreadable, which is unfortunate because there is important material here. We should understand the history of debt more completely. This book needs an expansion and rework of the scholarship within.

The author is trying so hard to prove points above and beyond providing historical perspective that he ends up invalidating his own arguments in the quest. He makes it quite clear from the beginning that he seeks to score points against capitalism. In and of itself that is not an issue, as the...more
Stas
Jul 24, 2012 Stas added it
Graeber became a "famous academic anarchist" when Yale didn't renew his job contract about 10 years ago. I read then about the case and looked up his essays on the Madagascar. I was fascinated by them and emailed him, excitedly, sharing some quotes from Sara Kofman's book on Nietzsche, which I thought resonated with the way Graeber was uncovering class tensions in the seemingly timeless rituals he observed in Madagascar. Graeber wrote back immediately, very warmly. I wish I'd saved his reply.

No...more
Caitlin O'Sullivan
I think of Goodreads stars as the following: 1, shouldn't have been published; 2, terrible; 3, pretty good; 4, really good; 5, everyone should read this (because it's eye-opening, incredibly skillful, and/or beautiful).

Debt is a five-star book.

Graeber's history encompasses not just history, but anthropology, sociology, psychology, philosophy, political science, economics, religious studies, and finance as he details the history and definition of "debt." The conclusions he draws are--especially i...more
Doug
This book presents some really intriguing ideas into human relationships, the nature of money and property, the development of civilization and capitalism and how they all relate to each other. He presents a model that really turns the traditional model of the development of capitalism on its head.

To understand the history of capitalism, however, we have to begin by realizing that the picture we have in out heads, of workers who dutifully punch the clock at 8:00 am and receive regular renumerat
...more
Mark Oppenlander
This book is profoundly troubling. At times it made me laugh, at other times it made me cry, and some times I just wanted to yell and scream at the page. It is the kind of book that makes you wish you could sit down with the author over a cup of coffee and have a good long conversation . . . or debate.

The book itself is an exhaustively researched anthropological history of the concept and practice of debt. Sound dull? It's not. Graeber looks at Africa, India, China, Europe and more in a endlessl...more
Bill
Feb 16, 2012 Bill added it
This is a book that made an impression on me. I will say right up front that it doesn't totally hang together. It sets out to make a step by step case, and gets carried away with its own ideas. It is intellectual for a popular book, but not tight enough for an intellectual book (which is probably fine by me). It attempts to sell you on a grandiose prediction or statement of where we are in the arc of history and where we are going at the end of the book. It is easy to get swept up in that sentim...more
Aron
It's not often that one reads a book on political economy that is as thrilling to read as a detective novel, but Graeber's Debt is just such a book. Perhaps because he is an anthropologist, not an economist, he is able to take on a seemingly boring and pedestrian topic, and write an eye-opening book which addresses the origins of the current crisis of capitalism.

Graeber's theme is a simple one. What makes us human is our relationship with others, starting with our mothers, then family and then t...more
Hans G.
This is a very interesting and important book. Graeber's writing style is engaging and provocative, enjoyable and fascinating.

Graeber has been accused as being overly political in his interpretation of history and anthropology. There is a warrant of truth to this accusation, but Graeber is dealing with highly political, and deeply moral, dilemmas which dominant history and have implications for contemporary circumstances, an apolitical book would be impossible (many philosophers of science (righ...more
Andrew R.
Graeber, writing with an accessible and yet masterful academic style, produces the perfect companion book to both Douglas Rushkoff's LIFE, INC (a good primer on the issues of money, debt, and society) and Charles Eisenstein's SACRED ECONOMICS (more poetic, free-wheeling and spiritually resonant, as well as a good bit deeper than Rushkoff.) This book is really the historical background one needs to synthesize Rushkoff and Eisenstein and as such, should be required reading.

As far as the text itsel...more
David Carver
The blurb on the front of the book calls David Graeber a "brilliant, deeply original political thinker." Replace "thinker" with "book" and you have Debt: The First 5,000 Years. Graeber takes to task those who equate "capitalism" with "the Market," arguing that, instead, capitalism is a late historical development and is a particular understanding and reading of the market, one that reduces all human interaction to the logic of calculated exchange. It is this logic that has prompted, and justifie...more
Marty
I really wanted to give this book 5 stars. It is definitely the most interesting non-fiction book I've read in a long time, although also one of the most disorganized, which, alas, prevented me from bestowing that final star. I hate to say it, but this brilliant anarchist author and thinker could use an editor with some good old-fashioned Leninist discipline.

His is a very ambitious book. As promised (at least in the reviews I read,) Graeber completely overthrows the conventional monetary histor...more
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David Rolfe Graeber is an American anthropologist and anarchist.

On June 15, 2007, Graeber accepted the offer of a lectureship in the anthropology department at Goldsmiths College, University of London, where he currently holds the title of Reader in Social Anthropology.

He was an associate professor of anthropology at Yale University, although Yale controversially declined to rehire him, and his te...more
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“Freuchen tells how one day, after coming home hungry from an unsuccessful walrus-hunting expedition, he found one of the successful hunters dropping off several hundred pounds of meat. He thanked him profusely. The man objected indignantly:
"Up in our country we are human!" said the hunter. "And since we are human we help each other. We don't like to hear anybody say thanks for that. What I get today you may get tomorrow. Up here we say that by gifts one makes slaves and by whips one makes dogs.

... The refusal to calculate credits and debits can be found throughout the anthropological literature on egalitarian hunting societies. Rather than seeing himself as human because he could make economic calculations, the hunter insisted that being truly human meant refusing to make such calculations, refusing to measure or remember who had given what to whom, for the precise reason that doing so would inevitably create a world where we began "comparing power with power, measuring, calculating" and reducing each other to slaves or dogs through debt. It's not that he, like untold millions of similar egalitarian spirits throughout history, was unaware that humans have a propensity to calculate. If he wasn't aware of it, he could not have said what he did. Of course we have a propensity to calculate. We have all sorts of propensities. In any real-life situation, we have propensities that drive us in several different contradictory directions simultaneously. No one is more real than any other. The real question is which we take as the foundation of our humanity, and therefore, make the basis of our civilization.”
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“Rather than seeing himself as human because he could make economic calculations, the hunter insisted that being truly human meant refusing to make such calculations, refusing to measure or remember who had given what to whom, for the precise reason that doing so would inevitably create a world where we began "comparing power with power, measuring, calculating" and reducing each other to slaves or dogs through debt.” 10 people liked it
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