Kamus Khazar: Sebuah Novel Leksikon
Ini adalah Kamus EDISI MASKULIN.
Edisi FEMININ nyaris identik. Tetapi TIDAK sepenuhnya.
Perhatikan bahwa SATU ALINEA sangat berbeda.
Pilihan ada di tangan Anda.
Bangsa Khazar adalah metafora untuk sekelompok kecil manusia yang bertahan di antara kekuatan-kekuatan adidaya dan agama-agama besar. Pada akhir abad kesepuluh, bangsa ini hilang dari peta kebudayaan dunia. Masih banya...more
Edisi FEMININ nyaris identik. Tetapi TIDAK sepenuhnya.
Perhatikan bahwa SATU ALINEA sangat berbeda.
Pilihan ada di tangan Anda.
Bangsa Khazar adalah metafora untuk sekelompok kecil manusia yang bertahan di antara kekuatan-kekuatan adidaya dan agama-agama besar. Pada akhir abad kesepuluh, bangsa ini hilang dari peta kebudayaan dunia. Masih banya...more
Paperback, 505 pages
Published
June 2009
by PT Serambi Ilmu Semesta
(first published 1984)
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Aug 23, 2010
Rachel
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2 of 5 stars
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Shelves:
i-got-bored-and-gave-up
I am doing a project in which I read all 1001 of the "1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die" as stated by a book in this stupid and arbitrary series of different stuff you have to do before you die. It is dumb and I will never finish it, but now that I started, I am pretty set on continuing.
The thing that makes it the most dumb is that these books are chosen by someone who has like, really different taste from me. I hated "Naked Lunch." Now I plan to pretty much hate this book, but I guess it...more
The thing that makes it the most dumb is that these books are chosen by someone who has like, really different taste from me. I hated "Naked Lunch." Now I plan to pretty much hate this book, but I guess it...more
Jul 23, 2007
Jake Thomas
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Those who like literary aerobics
Recommended to me after I'd talked up Mark Z. Danielewski's House of Leaves, this book could be, and often has been, cited as one of Danielewski's predecessors. It's one of those books you could spend a whole year with, unpacking it, taking notes, analyzing and cross-referencing, or you could just read and enjoy.
The book is divided into three dictionaries focused around exploring The Khazar Polemic, a fictionalized account of the mass conversion of the Khazar people in which the representatives...more
The book is divided into three dictionaries focused around exploring The Khazar Polemic, a fictionalized account of the mass conversion of the Khazar people in which the representatives...more
I actually don't know if I read the male or the female version. I'm told the difference is only one sentence; I never bothered to find out which.
This is a marvelous confection of a novel in the form of a dictionary (actually three dictionaries), mixing real-world history with fantasy in clever and occasionally insightful ways. When I first read it I assumed it was entirely fantasy; the basic premise, that there was a medieval kingdom in the Caucasus whose king invited representatives of Judaism,...more
This is a marvelous confection of a novel in the form of a dictionary (actually three dictionaries), mixing real-world history with fantasy in clever and occasionally insightful ways. When I first read it I assumed it was entirely fantasy; the basic premise, that there was a medieval kingdom in the Caucasus whose king invited representatives of Judaism,...more
May 10, 2007
Steven
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Somebody Interested in Literary Forms
The form of this book is as interesting as its content: It isn't necessarily linear at all.
This is a completely fictional account of the disappearance of an entire culture. The land of the Khazars was geographically located at the intersection of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, and this is an encyclopedia (entry by entry) relating each religion's perspective on which of them converted the heathen race.
Dreams and the supernatural are casually woven into this intricately self-referential work. I...more
This is a completely fictional account of the disappearance of an entire culture. The land of the Khazars was geographically located at the intersection of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, and this is an encyclopedia (entry by entry) relating each religion's perspective on which of them converted the heathen race.
Dreams and the supernatural are casually woven into this intricately self-referential work. I...more
I was super-duper looking forward to this book. I loved Pavic's wikipedia page, I love novels written in non-novel form, I love Eco-esque imaginative and wikipedia-heavy expository, and I'm as fascinated by the Khazars as one could be. And I still didn't like this book very much.
Part of the problem is that the narrative is a mystery. It's almost a closed-house whodunit; you have three possible individuals who successfully converted the Khazar people (or perhaps just their khagan) to their religi...more
Part of the problem is that the narrative is a mystery. It's almost a closed-house whodunit; you have three possible individuals who successfully converted the Khazar people (or perhaps just their khagan) to their religi...more
I wrote in my review of John Berger's novel "G"--
"Like what I said in my review of Zamyatin's "We," I believe I've found a fair explanation of why the books included in the 1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die made it on the list, and this I found in another listing, the 1001 Paintings You Must See Before You Die where the Introduction explained the choices by these justifications:
1. the painting (book) is interesting because of its subject matter;
2. the painting (book) is interesting because...more
"Like what I said in my review of Zamyatin's "We," I believe I've found a fair explanation of why the books included in the 1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die made it on the list, and this I found in another listing, the 1001 Paintings You Must See Before You Die where the Introduction explained the choices by these justifications:
1. the painting (book) is interesting because of its subject matter;
2. the painting (book) is interesting because...more
Nov 10, 2012
Katherine
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
experimental,
favorite
Dictionary of the Khazars by Milorad Pavic, A Lexicon Novel in 100,000 Words, is a lyrical description of the events surrounding the so-called "Khazar Polemic" and conversion of the Khazar people. Written as an encyclopedia containing cross-referenced entries between three different sections (Christian, Muslim, Jewish), it relates the efforts of various scholars to pin down exactly what happened at the Khazar court when the Khagan invited representatives from the three religions to hold a discus...more
Ты работаешь, потому что не умеешь жить...
"В книге нет сюжета в общепринятом понимании этого слова, но центральная тема книги (дискуссия о выборе религии среди хазар) основывается на реальном историческом событии. Большинство персонажей и событий в книге полностью вымышлены, так же как вымышлена и культура, приписываемая хазарам в книге. Роман является своего рода мистификацией, подложным псевдодокументом, в котором все люди и события изображены как реально существующие.
Роман имеет вид трёх взаи...more
"В книге нет сюжета в общепринятом понимании этого слова, но центральная тема книги (дискуссия о выборе религии среди хазар) основывается на реальном историческом событии. Большинство персонажей и событий в книге полностью вымышлены, так же как вымышлена и культура, приписываемая хазарам в книге. Роман является своего рода мистификацией, подложным псевдодокументом, в котором все люди и события изображены как реально существующие.
Роман имеет вид трёх взаи...more
Originally published on my blog here& in July 2000.
The Dictionary of the Khazars has one of the most unusual structures of any novel; as its title implies, it is written in the form of a dictionary, with alphabetically arranged entries. It is also about two other dictionaries, one a seventeenth century collection of material relating to the Khazars (a people inhabiting the Balkans in the early middle ages), and the other a book used by the Khazars for the interpretation of dreams. This tripl...more
The Dictionary of the Khazars has one of the most unusual structures of any novel; as its title implies, it is written in the form of a dictionary, with alphabetically arranged entries. It is also about two other dictionaries, one a seventeenth century collection of material relating to the Khazars (a people inhabiting the Balkans in the early middle ages), and the other a book used by the Khazars for the interpretation of dreams. This tripl...more
I don't understand why finding this book on a borrowing shelf was the first I'd ever heard of it. It seems like something absolutely timeless and classic, and it completely floored me with its simultaneous complexity and simplicity. It's written with such confidence that its unusual structure feels obvious and logical, and, whilst I'm sure you could read it in all the ways the introduction suggests and get much more from it, going the traditional beginning to end way does indeed also work very w...more
Translated by Christina Pribicevic-Zoric. I read the female version --- though this differs from the male version in only one paragraph. Anyway, an original "novel," told as three different dictionaries: the Christian, the Muslim, and the Jewish versions of entries roughly concerned with the Khazars. Some entries are in all three versions, such as the Khazar polemic, in which representatives from the three religions visited the Khazar kaghan to convince him, by clever repartee and dream interpre...more
Where does one start with trying to explain what the 'Dictionary of Khazars' is about and how does one try to explain it as coherently as possible even if he makes a start at some point. The novel itself is structured in such a way that it does not lend to the conventional ways of telling about it. So, instead I will try to just write down my thoughts on this, however abstract they may appear. I look at this novel from 3 view points, which I think as a whole enhances the impact of it.
Borges wrot...more
Borges wrot...more
This book is unlike anything I ever read, and one of my all time favourites.
As its name states it is build of definitions that you can read in any order you like, as long as you don’t miss any, all the parts will eventfully fall into place.
The dictionary is build of three books, red for Christian sources, green for Islamic sources and yellow for Jewish sources. Many definitions show in each of them, contradicting each other and showing the events in their favour. Also in each book according to t...more
As its name states it is build of definitions that you can read in any order you like, as long as you don’t miss any, all the parts will eventfully fall into place.
The dictionary is build of three books, red for Christian sources, green for Islamic sources and yellow for Jewish sources. Many definitions show in each of them, contradicting each other and showing the events in their favour. Also in each book according to t...more
Word of warning:
This book does not try to explain using any historical reference as why the Khazars (yes, they were real people) disappeared.
This is more like an exercise in language and form, at the expense of a story, in my opinion. Well, there is a story in it, if you can really get through the confusing maze - no matter where you started, because it's built like a dictionary, the back cover said; as long as you read the appendices, I said - but still I was left with a hanging feeling of "So...more
This book does not try to explain using any historical reference as why the Khazars (yes, they were real people) disappeared.
This is more like an exercise in language and form, at the expense of a story, in my opinion. Well, there is a story in it, if you can really get through the confusing maze - no matter where you started, because it's built like a dictionary, the back cover said; as long as you read the appendices, I said - but still I was left with a hanging feeling of "So...more
Kata Pembukanya Horror!!:
Disini terbaring pembaca
yang tidak akan pernah membuka buku ini.
Dia MATI selama-lamanya disini.
Catatan pendahuluan (edisi kedua yang sudah direkontruksi dan direvisi)
Penulis menjamin pembaca tidak akan mati karena membaca buku ini, tidak seperti yang dialami para pemakai edisi 1691 ketika penyalin pertama kamus Khazar masih hidup (dikatakan disini bahwa kamus Khazar nyata pernah ada, kemudian dimusnahkan karena dianggap sebagai ajaran sesat dan Milorad Pavić merekonstrus...more
Disini terbaring pembaca
yang tidak akan pernah membuka buku ini.
Dia MATI selama-lamanya disini.
Catatan pendahuluan (edisi kedua yang sudah direkontruksi dan direvisi)
Penulis menjamin pembaca tidak akan mati karena membaca buku ini, tidak seperti yang dialami para pemakai edisi 1691 ketika penyalin pertama kamus Khazar masih hidup (dikatakan disini bahwa kamus Khazar nyata pernah ada, kemudian dimusnahkan karena dianggap sebagai ajaran sesat dan Milorad Pavić merekonstrus...more
Reading this book is akin to observing the ripples made by an object dropped in still water, but only if your vision was distorted and unchronological. It can be read from the first page to the last, at random, or in a combination of three's which give you three story lines which are both connected and seperate. Basically in the three "dictionaries" everything has it's two parallels, and you probably (definately) won't figure all the nuances out on your first read. The writing style itself is fu...more
Mala napomena: izdanje koje sam čitao je Androgino, što znači da valjda sadrži i muško i žensko. Kakva je razlika, pojma nemam, verovatno bih znao da uporedim kad bih imao i druga izdanja. Tu je Pavić napravio malu igru koju je produžio dalje u "Sedam smrtnih grehova", interakciju sa čitaocem koji bi uporedio svoje izdanje sa osobom suprotnog pola koja ima istu takvu knjigu. Ipak mi se više sviđa varijanta sa kafanom, minđušom i ključem.
Nego, da se vratimo na knjigu:
Let's cut the crap about thin...more
Nego, da se vratimo na knjigu:
Let's cut the crap about thin...more
membaca buku selalu membuat ketimpangan. awal na berat di kanan, kemudian perlahan-lahan berat di kiri. selalu dengan keterulangan tipe seperti itu untuk buku-buku normal yang dibada cari kiri ke kanan. namun apakah demikian jika membuka kamus? tentulah jika kita membaca kamus tidak terjadi ketimpangan kanan ke kiri, karena kita bisa membuka dimanapun bagian yang kita mau. kirikah? kanankah? atau di bagian tengah.
demikian juga yang terjadi pada novel ini. terlepas dari muatan fiksi atau nyata ce...more
demikian juga yang terjadi pada novel ini. terlepas dari muatan fiksi atau nyata ce...more
The Goodreads recomendation system first brought the Dictionary of the Khazars to my attention,and for that I am glad. Having been intrigued by the premise I was lucky enough to come across a cheap copy only a short while later, and it was with hope that I advanced.
The introduction (part of the book, mind) tells us that we can read in any way or order we please,I in my cowardice plumped for habit and went from front to back.
The book is ostensibly mainly concerned with the mass conversion of th...more
The introduction (part of the book, mind) tells us that we can read in any way or order we please,I in my cowardice plumped for habit and went from front to back.
The book is ostensibly mainly concerned with the mass conversion of th...more
I don't know if I am actually done or not, but this book just keeps blowing my mind. Very bizarre at times but entirely fascinating. I am actually reading the female edition. "When we read, it is not ours to absorb all that is written. Our thoughts are jealous and they constantly black out the thoughts of others, for there is not room enough in us for two scents at one time. Those under the sing of the Holy Trinity, a masculine sign, take in only the odd sentences of their books when they read,...more
Picked this up years ago and couldn't make sense of it. Realize now that I was reading passively. The structure of the book itself is part of enjoying the book.
This time, it read like a mystery, reminding me of the choose-your-own-adventure books from childhood. I was thrilled by the possibilities, humour and complexity the book offered.
Plot: Tracking the time around the Khazar polemic (C7-10), the 17th century dream hunters/hunters of the dictionary, the 20th century academics/hunters. The sam...more
This time, it read like a mystery, reminding me of the choose-your-own-adventure books from childhood. I was thrilled by the possibilities, humour and complexity the book offered.
Plot: Tracking the time around the Khazar polemic (C7-10), the 17th century dream hunters/hunters of the dictionary, the 20th century academics/hunters. The sam...more
This was hard to rate because it is so untraditional in its format. It is, as the inside cover says, a bit reminiscent of the Arabian Nights, but only in that it has numerous tales. The stories are far more woven together, though never blatantly. And everything has a focus, that of the lost Khazars. It's simply hard to describe, but it is a really rewarding read, and is well designed for dealing with a bit at a time. The stories rarely progress or end as one might expect, and the constant surpri...more
Huff... Selesai juga akhirnya. Seperti kata salah satu endorsmentnya, baca buku ini seperti layaknya berlatih aerobik otak. Lumayan lelah, apalagi di awal-awal baca karena belum terbiasa dengan alur dan gaya tutur novel leksikon ini. Tetapi seperti halnya berolah raga, meski lelah namun jika tetap dijalani (dilatih) dengan sabar, akhirnya tubuh menjadi lebih teradaptasi dan menjalaninya dengan tekanan kelelahan yang semakin berkurang, bahkan mendapati adanya penyegaran. Begitulah pengalaman memb...more
I was mildly entertained and intrigued by this book but after a quarter of the way in, I was forcing myself to finish only because it was the book chosen by my book club. I simply don't understand the point of this book plus the barrage of verbose, nonsensical details overwhelmed me from the beginning. And that barrage never let up. The Dictionary seems to attempt to create a history in which sense of linear time and space and our basic tenets of reality are totally debunked. And any story told...more
This is a book that you have to make yourself.
It's a dictionary. Each entry references other entries. So by following a chain of references you wind your way through the novel.
The dictionary is based around the story of the conversion of the pagan Khazars to Judaism and the dictionary entries are divided into Christian, Jewish and Muslim sources for this event and it's aftermath. Within the entries however there are also stories, the shape of which is determined by which dictionary entries you'v...more
It's a dictionary. Each entry references other entries. So by following a chain of references you wind your way through the novel.
The dictionary is based around the story of the conversion of the pagan Khazars to Judaism and the dictionary entries are divided into Christian, Jewish and Muslim sources for this event and it's aftermath. Within the entries however there are also stories, the shape of which is determined by which dictionary entries you'v...more
Si hay un a clase de libros que amo, son aquellos que desafian al lector. Y el serbio Milorad Pavic tiene una bibliografia donde cada obra suya posee un marco formal que es un reto a sus lectores, aunque sus tematicas estan barnizadas con metaforas, leyendas y mas que nada el poder y el significado de los sueños. Leerlo es como caminar sonambulo guiado solamente por sus palabras, las que construyen frases compuestas, pareciera, en una eterna duermevela.
"Diccionario Jazaro", que fuera su primera...more
"Diccionario Jazaro", que fuera su primera...more
Bangsa Khazar. Cek di wikipedia sih, bangsa ini tuh adalah Rusia sekarang, entah deh, saya kurang meng-googling lebih lengkap, sebabnya, membaca buku Kamus Khazar inisangat menyiksa, buku ini sungguh sangat mengawang-awang membahana, kurang bisa menikmati saya, jujur saja.
Memang, buku ini bercerita tentang buku, kamus tepatnya. Jadi intinya begini, Kamus Khazar ini disusun oleh beberapa orang berdasarkan sudut pandang agama masing-masing, yakni Islam, Kisten dan Yahudi. Nah, proses perjalanan da...more
Memang, buku ini bercerita tentang buku, kamus tepatnya. Jadi intinya begini, Kamus Khazar ini disusun oleh beberapa orang berdasarkan sudut pandang agama masing-masing, yakni Islam, Kisten dan Yahudi. Nah, proses perjalanan da...more
It took me the better part of a year to finish reading this. The title is somewhat misleading - rest assured it is a collection of stories. But it is not immediately clear how one should go about reading a book like this - from front to back? by following a trail through to other entries? It is up to the reader to navigate the book. Whatever path you choose to follow through the text will be a version of the narrative. For every entry there are two others like it - one for each of three faiths,...more
The male version of the book fell into my possession more than 11 years ago. I bought it because the name Khazar was closely related to my then boyfriend's name.
Its bizarre characters are alive in my mind, especially princess Ateh, the one to judge and choose between three main religions of our world: Judaism, Christianity and Islamism. To save the Khazar people. There are almost no true historical facts in the book, except for the existence of the Khazar people around the 8th century A.D. an...more
Its bizarre characters are alive in my mind, especially princess Ateh, the one to judge and choose between three main religions of our world: Judaism, Christianity and Islamism. To save the Khazar people. There are almost no true historical facts in the book, except for the existence of the Khazar people around the 8th century A.D. an...more
Nov 28, 2012
Cheryl Scott
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Metafiction lovers
Recommended to Cheryl by:
A now-defunct magazine, 'The World & I'
Shelves:
strange-brew
Puzzle Box in a book.
The subject of this book is history, and how it is told and understood. It is presented as a trio of encylopedias or dictionaries, which tell one story throught the eyes of three peoples: Christians, Jews and Muslims.
Anyone who has researched anything from the distant past with documentation from more than one nation or faction has encountered something like this book. A researcher will order the information and try to draw some conclusions that 'tell the story.' Yet, those...more
The subject of this book is history, and how it is told and understood. It is presented as a trio of encylopedias or dictionaries, which tell one story throught the eyes of three peoples: Christians, Jews and Muslims.
Anyone who has researched anything from the distant past with documentation from more than one nation or faction has encountered something like this book. A researcher will order the information and try to draw some conclusions that 'tell the story.' Yet, those...more
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Milorad Pavić was a Serbian poet, prose writer, translator, and literary historian.
Pavić wrote five novels which were translated into English: Dictionary of the Khazars: A Lexicon Novel, Landscape Painted With Tea, Inner Side of the Wind, Last Love in Constantinople and Unique Item as well as many short stories not in English translation.
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Pavić wrote five novels which were translated into English: Dictionary of the Khazars: A Lexicon Novel, Landscape Painted With Tea, Inner Side of the Wind, Last Love in Constantinople and Unique Item as well as many short stories not in English translation.
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“When we read, it is not ours to absorb all that is written. Our thoughts are jealous and they constantly blank out the thoughts of others, for there is not room enough in us for two scents at one time.”
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“It is not I who mix the colors but your own vision,' he answered. 'I only place them next to one another on the wall in their natural state; it is the observer who mixes the colors in his own eye, like porridge. Therein lies the secret. The better the porridge, the better the painting, but you cannot make good porridge from bad buckwheat. Therefore, faith in seeing, listening, and reading is more important than faith in painting, singing, or writing.'
He took blue and red and placed them next to each other, painting the eyes of an angel. And I saw the angel's eyes turn violet.
'I work with something like a dictionary of colors,' Nikon added, 'and from it the observer composes sentences and books, in other words, images. You could do the same with writing. Why shouldn't someone create a dictionary of words that make up one book and let the reader himself assemble the words into a whole?”
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He took blue and red and placed them next to each other, painting the eyes of an angel. And I saw the angel's eyes turn violet.
'I work with something like a dictionary of colors,' Nikon added, 'and from it the observer composes sentences and books, in other words, images. You could do the same with writing. Why shouldn't someone create a dictionary of words that make up one book and let the reader himself assemble the words into a whole?”

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