Lipstick Traces: A Secret History of the Twentieth Century
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Lipstick Traces: A Secret History of the Twentieth Century

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Greil Marcus, author of "Mystery Train," widely acclaimed as the best book ever written about America as seen through its music, began work on this new book out of a fascination with the Sex Pistols: that scandalous antimusical group, invented in London in 1975 and dead within two years, which sparked the emergence of the culture called punk. "I am an antich

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Paperback, 20th Anniversary Edition, 482 pages
Published November 15th 2009 by Belknap Press (first published April 5th 1989)
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Derek
As a scholarly work, this is some post-modern mush-brained twaddle.

Dude...John of Leyden...John Lydon!...Whoa! Take a rip from the history bong!

It seems to be a gateway drug to Situationism, May '68, etc. for a lot of folks, which is of value.
Gaelan D'costa
What a bastard! Greil Marcus sucked me in with 70s punk trivia and turned out to be an introductory text on Dadaism, Situationist International and the May '68 riots that shaped contemporary France.

But, if this book as anything to say, it shaped punk too. By bookending philosophy with punk histories it convinced me that listening to protest music was not enough; it uncovered a philosophy that demonstrates the true danger and disruptive joy that should have informed the instruments an...more
Jared Colley
Jared Colley rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: those interested in avant-garde, dadaism, situationism, punk
This book is so many things: (1) a non-linear history of the avant-garde, (2) a broad critique of the everyday life of mid/late capitalist society, (3) an account of punk, anarchy, and the historical/cultural roots of such phenomena, (4) a work of art perhaps?

This book is not for everyone, however. It is, at times, a frustrating, incoherent read - an experiment in historical scholarship. Malcom McLaren himself states that Marcus' book "was a crazy, wild, at times almost inarti...more
space
space rated it 1 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: IDIOTS
Marcus not only gets most of it WRONG, he seems intent on politicizing the expressly apolitical (early p-rock). My opinion of this book has always been colored by the fact that this guy is a clown... a fucking PRO-SITU ROCK CRITIC, someone that Debord would've punched in the fucking face (I know this cause I corresponded with Guy- and he agreed this pot-boiler is laughable... as did Jamie Reid.) No one should take this thing seriously. Fuck it off and read the original texts. Don't let this POP-...more
Julie Fishkin
Julie Fishkin rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: anyone who listens to good music
Shelves: read-already
Brilliant. This imperative, Benjamin Buchloh endorsed, piece of cultural history examines, re-defines and formulates the entire history of punk movement from its inception centuries ago with various revolutionary anarchists all the way up to Malcolm McLaren and, yes, the sex pistols. He understands Guy Debords fundamental contributions to punk through the inception of the Situationists during the Paris May 68 revolts and covers everything an educated kid like you needs to know to call yourself...more
John
John rated it 3 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: art rock kids who feel the need to trump their art history/film major roommates pop culture ace
this is a tedious book, almost a textbook. (i actually have seen it taught in universities.) at its best, lipstick is engaging in waves; at its worst it is mundane, bordering on inane, and repetitive in marcus' masturbatory doldrums. reading about subversive political turn-of-the-century art movements in france and central europe can be very interesting. there's a bit on dada if you're into that. of course marcus couldn't resist indulging himself - as is his m.o., i'm finding - with firstha...more
Stewart Home
A COSMETIC UNDERGROUND

The emphasis Marcus places upon personalities ultimately nullifies any sense of individuality which his subjects might possess. The links drawn between free spirit heretics and members of the Lettriste, Situationist and PUNK movements, are forged without acknowledgement of the fact that the former lived in feudal communities while the latter were attempting to effect change within industrialised societies. Since the mental sets and social networks of individuals l...more
Spac3m0nk3y
I'm not sure why I picked up this book originally. It may have been due to a book review I scanned through. At any rate, I thoroughly enjoyed reading this book. One of the reasons I liked it was because I thought the thesis of the book was original. Greil Marcues attempts to critique western culture through the prism of pop music and art. To do this he goes back to some avante garde art movements in Europe that later influenced punk rock bands like The Sex Pistols and The Clash. The latter...more
Betsy
Betsy marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
***Greil Marcus is coming to Skylight Books in May to do a reading for his new book. Time finally to read all of Lipstick Traces?

Details:
http://www.skylightbooks.com/event/greil...
Friday May 7, 2010
GREIL MARCUS discusses and signs "WHEN THAT ROUGH GOD GOES RIDING"
Start: 7:30 pm
End: 9:30 pm
When That Rough God Goes Riding: Listening to Van Morrison (PublicAffairs)

We're thrilled to announce that Greil Marcus, music and culture cr...more
Malcolm MacLean
A fabulous history of the cultural trends that became punk, tracing the underground cultures of 20th century Europe (and with a great soundtrack, if you can find it). Marcus has presented us with a significant contribution to cultural history at two levels - he has traced the 20th century history of a set of disruptive cultural movements from Dada through Surrealism, Lettrism, and Situationism to Punk. His grasp of the movements and of their political and philosophical foundations is monumental ...more
Steve Rosenstein
First of all, is the history all that secret? Maybe to Americans who are completely ignorant of European art movements of the twentieth century, but dada, surrealism, and the Situationists aren't all that obscure to anyone with at least a passing interest in cultural history, and even if you have no idea what any of those words mean, this really isn't the book to educate yourself with. About 20% of the material here is fascinating, and the other 80% is Marcusbabble, the type of prose where you...more
Ted Burke
Marcus is obsessed with secret histories as manifested in the inchoate habits of a populations seeking to amuse and distract themselves, and his decades-worth of rants, ruminations and reiterations wherein he tried to wed his original concern with rock and roll as an inevitable counter cultural force that galvanized various energies that would, finally, transform the world in very Hegelian way with the larger aims of politics and social theory, we are met with decidedly mixed results; lots of in...more
Derek Martin
Still reading it, but it's pretty interesting so far. I enjoy the writing style even though it does jump around a bit. The sentences are complete and coherent, but the narrative exhibits a cut-up type of technique, punctuated by headlines - it does remind me of the Aeolus chapter of Ulysses (but it is much easier reading than Joyce). It pays to re-read certain sections once you move a bit further on.

This book glorifies the music and its importance a bit too much at times - but linki...more
Christopher
Before I forget: turns out Hurlements en faveur de Sade is on YouTube. Of all things: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJvFOUU6QS4

It is difficult to impossible to overstate how important this book is to me. When I first read it I was already passingly familiar with Debord, situationism, dada and, of course, British punk rock (North American punk is completely excised from this account) and I had an idea that they were somewhat related. I was looking for this book to explicate those ideas; ins...more
Xio
When I first read this I was so excited someone had managed to reasonably accumulate so much of this particular variety of comparative history. I recall being impressed by ideas moving through history, time and again there being such movements toward liberty of self expression.

I believe recent times reflect that pattern in an oddly popular manner. Its been assimilated somehow via capitalism or something commercial. Now it seems as though the people who in past times might have been s...more
Rob
This book is a sensory experience. Greil Marcus traces the history of 20th-century counterculture using text, images, marginalia, and (at least if you're a compulsive YouTuber like me) sound. His prose style is also attractive, beautiful and disjointed, making the whole thing feel less like a history book and more like a drug trip. The connections and arguments Marcus makes are kind of strained, but on the other hand clear logic would seem out of place here. And even if you don't appreciate ...more
Darran Mclaughlin
So boring that I had to stop when I was two thirds of the way through. In spite of the pain I was trying to persevere just because I would like to know more about Dada and the Situationists but it just wasn't worth it. This book is an uncomfortable melange of rock writing and more serious stuff about art and theory, but it just ends up falling between two stools being neither entertaining nor intellectual enough enough.
Julia
(mdc) it's about the situationists and guy debord, punk rock, the last sex pistols concert, lettrist international, a whole lot of post punk and some other stuff too. really interesting and the author is one of my favorites but it's pretty all over the place - like one minute it's paris in 1889 and then all of a sudden it's an x show in los angeles. i kept having to stop and re-orient myself! took me forever to read.
Joe
I loved this book. Does a great job of unearthing and contextualizing various strains of Dada, the surrealists, the letterists, the Letterist International, the Situationists, the '68 Paris uprising, and-- ultimately-- the Sex Pistols and their immediate kin. A fun, intelligent tour of twentieth century insurrections of immediacy.
Johnny D
a strange tour through the subconscious of the twentieth century, convincingly connecting dada to punk, leaving a lipstick trace of influence on each, and confirming my long-held suspicion that punk did not die, it rather went underground as a "minority report" in philosophy.
Artephius
Reading a Greil Marcus book is like reading a bowl of stew. A lot of repetitive spoon moving, punctuated by the occasional tasty bit. I was surprised that colonial Massachusetts religious leader Jonathan Edwards got a mention, but I can't for the life of me explain Marcus's intentions there, or what connective tissue was implied. That's the real stewy part. You're reading along, practically chewing on this prose, and you realize you don't know what's been said in the last 3 pages. Usually it's t...more
Michael Grasso
Finished today. Was less about punk than I wanted, but the more I read about Paris in the postwar period the more (surprise surprise) I want to run an occult urbanomantic/psychogeographical revolutionary game there among the Existentialists and Lettrists and Situationists.
DoctorM
One of those books you can spend days and days exploring--- filled with references to music, historical events, lost and obscure thinkers, arcane art and political movements. A book purportedly about punk and its historical antecedents, but one that tries to go beyond music to look at Situationism and post-1945 anomie and the whole underground world of film and art and rage building up through the postwar years and into the Seventies. How can you not like a book that links the Anabaptists of Mue...more
Scott McWaters
This cover is not what my dust jacket looks like!!!! I think this ISBN or this cover image is wrong. Dense and intellectual but worth the effort. See how the popular culture subverts and exploits all revolutionary movements.
Matt
Why this wasn't on my list already is beyond me. Perhaps my favorite book of all time, but that's a ridiculous thing to say about any book. "A durned good'un" sounds a lot better to me. Pick it up today you slug, you deserve it!
Vivian
I understand why Lipstick Traces is brilliant and, moreover, important, but the fact that Richard Hell doesn't even make it into the index is a major red flag. Love the writing, just not always the scholarship.
Jason King
A great music, art, and philosophy criticism/history book. This book examines the perhaps non-existant links between various anti-establishment art, philosophy, and music movements of the 1900s.
Bob
the best sort of rock n roll book of all time, w/the possible exception of the Bangs, a history of what rock music should mean and why punk was so fucking cool
Dave
Dave rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Anybody with the barest interest in how we get from there to here....
Knotty, cerebral, convoluted and challenging - as any "comprehensive" study of Twentieth Century Western Culture would be. The most diverse period in world history, and Marcus applies his impressive scholarly skills to unravelling and understanding at least one small corner of it.
At it's best, you will reconsider and rethink some of your most basic assumptions about where "our" music, movies and "Popular Tastes" came from.....which will inevitably affect your...more
Cameron
One of the best historical narratives ever written. Unique, almost hypnotic. An author in complete command of his subject.
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