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Patrz pod: Miłość

4.01  ·  Rating Details ·  909 Ratings  ·  78 Reviews
Momik dorasta w Izraelu lat 1950. Pewnego dnia niespodziewanie w jego domu pojawia się dziadek, który rzekomo zginął podczas wojny. Opowiada historię z kraju „Tam”, która chłopcu nie mieści się w głowie, i... znika. Żeby pojąć straszne losy swej rodziny i narodu, Momik zostaje pisarzem.
Podążając śladami swego duchowego mistrza, Brunona Schulza, trafia do Polski czasów Soli
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Paperback, 688 pages
Published 2008 by Świat Książki (first published 1986)
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Mariel
Nov 28, 2007 Mariel rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: your head is shouting please please please
Recommended to Mariel by: we will never write you off
Shelves: my-love-life
He realized he had spent most of his life as a daring trapeze artist on that high scaffold, and that he had always been careful not to look down, because looking downward and inward would have frightened him and made him recognize, much to his sorrow, that he wasn't a trapeze artist but a jailor. That somewhere along the line force of habit, fatigue, and negligence had turned him into the accomplice of the people with their hands joined around him.

My twin said something the other day about her p
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Karen
Jun 18, 2008 Karen rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: read-in-hebrew
In the first part of this book, Momik - the young son of Holocaust survivors, born and raised in Israel - says that grownups sometimes call him "alter kop", which in Yiddish means "old head". And he is, in a way, an old man in the body of a child. He is intelligent and painfully serious; he has no friends his own age but is drawn to the aging and deranged Holocaust survivors who populate his neighborhood in Jerusalem (which, believe me, is a creepy enough town as it is). But though wise beyond h ...more
William1
Mar 24, 2011 William1 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
The first chapter, "Momix," is brilliant. I suppose it raised my hopes impossibly high, for in the end I could not finish the novel. I stopped around p. 130 of chapter two, "Bruno." I have never seen a novel collapse more spectacularly--almost from one page to the next--as I have here. "Bruno" is so poetic and fanciful as to be unreadable. It stopped me cold when I tried to read it several years ago, and it stopped me cold on this second reading, too. What does the sea have to do with the Holoca ...more
João Carlos
c'um caraças

"Foi o primeiro livro que reli imediatamente do princípio mal acabei de o ler. E desde então quantas vezes o reli! Durante imensos meses não senti necessidade de ler outro livro. Para mim, aquele era o "Livro", no sentido em que o próprio Bruno ansiara: "um volume imenso, sussurrante, uma bíblia agitada, através de cujas páginas o vento soprava devastando-a como uma grande rosa murcha..." e li-o, creio, como o mereceria uma carta perdida: sabendo que o que está escrito nas páginas é
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Luana
May 09, 2011 Luana rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Quando si incontra un autore come Grossman la prima cosa da fare è sedersi.
In seguito bisogna munirsi di umiltà, aprire tutti e cinque i sensi all’apprendimento e diventare discepoli di un insegnante che accompagna lungo un percorso profondo, enigmatico, talvolta insidioso, ma infine soddisfacente e di arricchimento personale.
‘Vedi alla voce: amore’ è più di quanto lontano possa esserci da un libro, ‘Vedi alla voce: amore’ è un cammino a tappe volto a far scoprire cosa sia stato quell’evento d
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Kyra
Jan 21, 2012 Kyra rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Feb. 2016: I've recently revised my rating of this book from 4 t0 5 stars because in thinking over what I've read in the past several years this book -- which I bought when it came out and didn't pick up for over a decade -- turns out to be one that I keep returning to in my mind. That sort of blows me away because it was so difficult to navigate; it's interesting to see how much of it has stayed with me. So, in deference to that, I'm revising my rating. Otherwise, my review is unchanged.

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Melissa
Dec 17, 2007 Melissa rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I read the first 100-page chapter of this book in one stunned sitting the summer my son was born. I don't normally read Holocaust related fiction, but See Under: Love captivated me and tore me up. I lent the book to a dear friend who couldn't get past the opening pages, so I guess it's not for everyone, but for those with a tolerance or liking for magical realism, unusual plotting, and (truly) heartbreaking genius.
Lee
Jul 15, 2007 Lee rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
This is awesome. Bruno Schulz is a character. An insane stream of consciousness section. A son of Holocaust survivor imagination-addled masterpiece. Read it in an Holocaust in Fiction class in 1992.
Susan KG
Sep 12, 2011 Susan KG rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
It's difficult to give a book by David Grossman just one star. I thought that his books "Someone to Run With", and "To the End of the Land" were excellent and loved them both. I had a heck of a time following all the different stories within stories in "See Under Love", and had to force myself to finish it. I have this nagging concern that there are ways in which this book trivialized the Holocaust. For well-done books about the Holocaust, "The Book Thief", "Stones from the River", and "Every Ma ...more
Avital
Jul 05, 2007 Avital rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: israeli
A tough book to read, divided in a few parts, each different from the rest. The isuue is one that interests me personally as well: the first generation in Israel, second to the holocaust.
Adelaide Silva
Feb 17, 2015 Adelaide Silva rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Diferente de tudo o que já li sobre o Holocausto.
Clio
Feb 17, 2015 Clio rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: bookclub
Some of the great lines I took note of while reading this book:
-He fears only the great searchlights that converge inside and chstise him to be-like-everybody-else, to live the gray life he can never redeem with a touch of his pen.
- in the books he read he sought the one phrase, the pearl, which launched the writer on a voyage hundreds of pages long.
-I want to write, but I can't get rid of my blocks and inhibitions. Every step becomes impossible because of the half step that must precede it.
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Yair Ben-Zvi
Jan 21, 2011 Yair Ben-Zvi rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This book shouldn't hold together as well as it does. So many disparate elements that, to me, shouldn't be attempting to work in cohesion. Child of holocaust survivors/cynical israeli author attempting to write about the holocaust whilst straightening his own life/post modern travails/camp inmate writer going all 1001 and nights on a camp commandant....in a lesser writer's hands this story woulve collapsed into an amorphous mess, falling under the weight ofg tis own ambition. But Grossman succee ...more
Ann
Jan 29, 2012 Ann rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: unfinished, lib, 2012
Ik geef het op. Ik heb me door deel I geworsteld, ik raakte verstrikt in deel II en besloot het over te slaan. Ik ben begonnen aan deel III maar vandaag is de kogel door de kerk: ik stop ermee. Hoe vreselijk ik het ook vind om een boek niet uit te lezen, na meer dan een maand worstelen is het goed geweest, ik geef me over. Dit boek is duidelijk niet voor mij geschreven.

Het eerste deel gaat over Momik, de verteller in deel 2 en 3. In deel 2 springt de ik-persoon van de hak-op-de-tak in een verha
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Candice Davantzis
Jul 23, 2008 Candice Davantzis rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: novels
there is lots of literature on the holocaust but this is by far my favorite holocaust representation. it is so, so impressive. mostly I say this because of the first section (there are four total), which is an 80-page story about a little boy named Momik. you could totally read this part without reading the rest of the book - it stands alone, and is just plain GOOD in that breathtaking way that short pieces sometimes are. the second section is very challenging to read and makes very little sense ...more
Irina
Jun 18, 2012 Irina rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorites
In this powerful novel by one of Israel’s most prominent writers, Momik, the only child of Holocaust survivors, grows up in the shadow of his parents’ history. Determined to exorcise the Nazi “beast” from their shattered lives and prepare for a second holocaust he knows is coming, Momik increasingly shields himself from all feeling and attachment. But through the stories his great-uncle tells him—the same stories he told the commandant of a Nazi concentration camp—Momik, too, becomes “infected w ...more
laura saldarini
Aug 25, 2009 laura saldarini rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
When i first read “Someone to Run With”, i knew i would not rest until i finished reading all Grossman’s books. This one did not disappoint. I found myself crying at the very end of the book. Without a doubt is difficult to speak about Holocaust…, but is is extremely hard to speak about it to the new generation. Tha’s what Grossman did in this book. All of the characters and the plot make it so much interesting to read. So, to me, Grossman did an amazing job in this book.
I really recommend this
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Tamara
Sep 11, 2012 Tamara rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
This was a real trudge for me. I gave it three stars because there were aspects of it that I found really interesting. My favorite part of the book was definitely the first section - it was downhill from there but the last section was very good as well. This book is a translation and I thought that was done extremely well too. But there were parts of it that really dragged for me - whole sections even.
Susu
A kid growing up in Israel in the shadow of the dark memories of all the Holocaust survivors around him - they dont really talk about it and so Momik starts to build his own idea of the Nazi Beast.

I found it hard to follow and put it down several times.
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Kia76
Mi sono innamorata di Grossman con il "Cerbiatto" ma questo libro proprio non mi � piaciuto. Non si capisce niente, flussi di coscienza, cambiamenti di scenari... Interesante e originale il dizionario alla fine del libro.
Mari
Oct 17, 2016 Mari rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: read-in-2016
Jotenkin ei napannut tai sitten tässä oli jotain mitä en vaan tajunnut. Jos joku tämän lukee/ on lukenut kuulisin mielelläni missä tämän hienous on. Aion kuitenkin lukea kirjailijan toisenkin suomennetun kirjan jossain vaiheessa.
Claudia
Jun 11, 2017 Claudia rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Incredibile. Uno dei libri più belli mai letti
Natalia
Jul 20, 2017 Natalia rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: owned
I don't know what I think about this book. I just feel it is something that ought to be reread again and again, since the question it deals with is, no doubt, impossible to answer.
Judy
Jul 14, 2014 Judy rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Judy by: Congregation Dor Hadash
This was not an easy book to read. The prose was beautiful, but it was easy to get lost and become unclear what was actually happening. I found that it was well worth the tenacity to complete it. It took me a long time also because I found so many paragraphs and phrases worthy of copying and saving to read again later.

David Grossman grew up in Israel in the 1950s. As in Momik's childhood, the neighborhood was full of thick silences, of screams in the night. Every day the radio broadcast names of
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Martina
"Un'intera epoca geniale"
Ecco cos'è questo libro, per metterla come Grossman. Un intero mondo, privo di coordinate geografiche e temporali precise, perché pieno di personaggi che di questi paramentri non hanno bisogno. Una storia infinita, che si interrompe e si riavvolge, si perde e si ritrova continuamente.

Inizia con Momik, piccolo ebreo nato a Gerusalemme, da due genitori ex-deportati. Momik vuole scoprire cos'è questa Belva Nazista che tanto tormenta i suoi genitori, che rende proibiti i ric
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Clarence
Jan 28, 2008 Clarence rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: newish-fiction
This is the most intense, and incredible, books I've read in a while. It took me almost a full month to read, but the effort was well worth it. The novel is preoccupied with finding a linguistic world to inhabit post-Holocaust:

"He knew that a language that will admit a sentence like 'I killed your Jew...In that case, I will now kill,' etc., a language where such verbal constructs do not turn to poison in the speaker's mouth--is not the language of life, human and moral, but a language infiltrate
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Luisa
Aug 15, 2015 Luisa rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Sicuramente un modo diverso di raccontare la Shoah, un libro che lancia un messaggio di speranza nonostante lo sfondo sia un mondo di sofferenza e privazioni e umiliazione dell'essere umano come mai si era visto nella storia.
Ma il libro è pesante e complesso, e divaga di continuo.
La parte iniziale, storia di Momik, è confusa bisogna capirla tra le righe, la scrittura sembra ispirata al flusso di coscienza; la personale versione della morte di Schulz è resa come un lunghissimo viaggio nel mare di
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Sarah
May 26, 2013 Sarah rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I loved this book. Its divided into four parts, each of which are very different: in the first part, the protagonist is a child who is trying to understand his post-WW2 family. In the second part, the protagonist is an adult and a guy turns into a fish? Confusing, but its heaps of fun so that's ok. In the third part, the protagonist's grandfather (or is it uncle?) is in a concentration camp in WW2, telling a story to one of the Nazis who run the camp (story within a story!). The fourth part of t ...more
Paco
Jun 29, 2016 Paco rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Ambitious, both in style and substance. Tries to achieve the epic through the mundane, but I think it falls short. It has endearing moments and sublime phrases, but lost in too much verbosity, never manages to be inspirational and, with a story like that, it should be. At moments it is even tedious. All the detail and endearing beauty of the first chapter (Momik) is lost in the second (Bruno). This second chapter can be avoided without loss, since it seems merely an awfully boring stylistic work ...more
Ella
Jun 04, 2014 Ella rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Ik heb dit boek in het Nederlands gelezen en dan heet het Zie: Liefde.
Het is geen makkelijk boek maar de taal van Grossman is zo goed dat je toch doorleest.
Het begint in Israël na de tweede wereldoorlog. Een kleine jongen (de schrijver) ontmoet veel mensen die teruggekomen zijn uit de kampen maar daar wordt niet over gesproken. Door allerlei, soms sprookjesachtige, verhalen leer je toch hun geschiedenis kennen. Het boek is onderverdeeld in verschillende delen waarin de karakters op afwisselende
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Leading Israeli novelist David Grossman (b. 1954, Jerusalem) studied philosophy and drama at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and later worked as an editor and broadcaster at Israel Radio. Grossman has written seven novels, a play, a number of short stories and novellas, and a number of books for children and youth. He has also published several books of non-fiction, including int
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