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Phineas Redux (Palliser #4)

4.05  ·  Rating Details ·  1,618 Ratings  ·  130 Reviews
After the death of his Irish wife, Phineas Finn returns to London and to the House of Commons. But though drawn back apparently irresistibly, he never approaches politics with the zest of earlier days. What Trollope describes, in some of his most powerful writing, is a sad, at times almost sombre, progress towards maturity and self-wisdom.
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Published (first published 1873)
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Jane
Nov 17, 2014 Jane rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I really didn’t mean to read Phineas Redux quite yet, I intended to give some other classic authors some time, after spending so much time with Trollope this year, but my fondness for Phineas and my curiosity to know what was happening in an a world full of so many characters I have come to love …..

I just had to know!

The story begins a few years after ‘Phineas Finn’ and a few months after ‘The Eustace Diamonds’. I’ve seen suggestions that you could read the two Phineas novels back to back, but i
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Caroline
Dec 14, 2015 Caroline rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 19th-c-england
Now look here, Trollope, you gave me your word that there would be less fox-hunting in this novel and instead I find just the opposite to be the case. As your publisher I am compelled to tell you that you are sure to lose sales unless you cut some of it out. There are characters nattering on about cover and vixens on almost every page.

Some of the vixens are human, .

The devil they are. Lizzie Eustace was in the last book, but surely you don’t expect me to consider Lady Laura a vixen? Or Madame Go
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Buck
Sep 24, 2016 Buck rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
A guest on some podcast I was half-listening to the other day brought me up short with this arresting prophecy: “I feel like 2016 is that moment just before an earthquake when dogs are barking like crazy, rats are fleeing the cities and gerbils are eating their young.” I may be paraphrasing slightly, but that was the gist of it. As a rule, I’m morally allergic to such talk: unless you’re St John or Yeats—and even then—the apocalyptic mode comes off as overwrought. Worse, it’s almost always wrong ...more
David
Apr 21, 2009 David rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: big-white-square
You shouldn't read Trollope for suspense. But with the other books I enjoyed being as concerned as the characters about the silly bullshit of their privileged lives. Will Phineas be made an Under-Secretary of State at the Colonial Office? Will Madame Max marry the Duke of Palliser? Who is Lizzie Eustace shagging next? It's not important, very predictable, but fun!

The second half of 'Phineas Redux' is a murder trial, and I don't think it works with the "not important, very predictable, but fun!"
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Anastasia Fitzgerald-Beaumont
Here I am at the top of another mountain, having climbed Phineas Redux, the forth in Anthony Trollope’s Palliser series. It’s really the sequel to Phineas Finn, the second in the set, though it follows on from The Eustace Diamonds, its immediate predecessor.

It was suggested that I read the Phineas novels back to back. But, closely related as they are, I preferred to follow the author’s own footsteps. I’m glad that I did because there is a reasonably important overlap with The Eustace Diamonds,
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Sarah Magdalene
Apr 22, 2013 Sarah Magdalene rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Phineas Redux - Anthony Trollope

Ahhhh Phineaaassss!!!
He suffers much more this time. But it’s good for him. He wakes up out of his dream as a result. This was a really subtle piece of emotional manipulation. I cried when the crusty old lawyer fell for his lovely client (well, the keyword here is subtle), I cried when all his friends stood up for him in court. But it’s been raining non stop, and somehow Phineas’ trial seem to mirror my own trial.

Its a classic piece on scapegoating and jealousy. P
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Cphe
The "weakest" link in The Palliser series to date. The delivery of the story is marred by a lot of repetition from the previous novels, Phineas Finn and The Eustace Diamonds.

However it is the female characters who again take centre stage and shine through. There is the well intentioned Lady Glencora Palliser through to the delightfully notorious Lizzie Eustace, each are scene stealers and the main character Phineas is bland in comparison.

As you can tell, not a favourite in what has been up to no
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Susan in NC
Jan 29, 2017 Susan in NC rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Phew - well that took forever...I started this book months ago to check back in with the Palliser series, which I am slowly working my way through. I have found this series much slower than the Barsetshire novels, which were much more Austenesque as a wise book friend observed, partly due to all the parliamentary politics - being an American I'm not terribly familiar with that system, but heck even our system is as clear as mud (and getting weirder by the day). I also managed to forget the book ...more
Susan
Feb 24, 2010 Susan rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: re-read
I'm slowly rereading Trollope's political novels and just finished #4, Phineas Redux. In the first Phineas book the likeable (maybe one of Trollope's most likeable characters) Irishman wins a seat in Parliament and makes his way quickly into the homes and political circles of the Liberal Party. He falls in love--almost immediately--with Laura Standish who's the daughter of an Earl. She should have been male--she's that interested in politics and undertakes to make Phineas' career, but she marrie ...more
David
Apr 03, 2007 David rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: trollope
This is the fourth novel in Trollope's Palliser series. At the end of Phineas Finn, Phineas was back in Ireland, his political career apparently at an end. But Trollope brings him back here.

Between the time he wrote Phineas Finn and the time he wrote Phineas Redux, Trollope had himself run (I suppose I should say "stood") for a Parliamentary seat, and lost. In his campaign, Trollope witnessed firsthand voter indifference and bribery and other political corruption. That experience informs his dep
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Elijah Spector
So glad I found my precious baby:
My baby.
Carol Apple
Aug 30, 2015 Carol Apple rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Reading Anthony Trollope's Palliser series is a long-term project. I guess I began Can You Forgive Her? about a year ago, and I find, in general, I am liking each novel more than the previous one. Perhaps familiarity has something to do with it: you tend to care about people more as you get to know them better, and what people can you ever know better than those that populate a hefty well-crafted Victorian novel?

I was a tiny bit hesitant to embark on Phineas Redux within mere days of finishing T
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Inder
Only Anthony Trollope could make British parliamentary politics and fox hunting (two topics that I had barely considered before reading these books) so interesting, so full of personal intrigue, and so deliciously page-turning. I have enjoyed each volume of the Palliser series (which is themed around, you guessed it, politics and hunting) immensely, each in its own right, and as a series. Friends: If you love Victorian novels, but you have not yet tasted Trollope, you are in for a rare treat. I ...more
Elizabeth (Alaska)
I continue to thoroughly enjoy this series. In this case, thoroughly excludes the several pages devoted to the debate in the House of Commons having to do with the disestablishment of the Church of England. (One character remarked to her friend, who was a Member of Parliament: What a pleasure! To hear a man speak for two hours and a half about the Church of England. One must be very hard driven for amusement!) Fortunately, that section is only about 10 pages long, although leading up to it takes ...more
Audrey
Jan 05, 2014 Audrey rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: victorian
The fourth installment of the Palliser series sees the return of Phineas Finn, the protagonist of the second novel in the series. The first half is taken up with Phineas' return to London, and the wrangling to get back into a seat in Parliament. This accomplished, there are various social difficulties to navigate, as well as Parliamentary matters into which to delve. Trollope knows how to keep this light and fun, with a love story that's only tangentially related, and many appearances by the ini ...more
Laura Leilani
Feb 05, 2016 Laura Leilani rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: classics
A fun read. In the first Phineas book, Phineas had amazingly great luck. Good things just fell into his lap. He had so many friends, many in powerful places, everyone liked him and wanted to help him. Now he's back, and his luck has turned. This time he has to fight to get what he wants. Things are in a real mess, with past loves and new enemies. The main thrust of the book is the power of social media ( in this time period it was newspapers and gossip) to make or utterly destroy a person, destr ...more
Spiros
Dec 31, 2011 Spiros rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: those with a taste for politics, both parliamentary and personal
He's back; older and ever so slightly wiser, Phineas is lured back into the whirlwind of Parliamentary and Government politics, having lost his wife to childbirth. He just can't get the taste for Westminster, and the splendors of London society, out of his blood. He still has no money, and no position outside of Parliament; how is he to sustain himself? Being brought up on charges of murder probably is not the best way to advance his career.
Once again, it's the women who fight for Phineas' advan
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Mark
Dec 27, 2014 Mark rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The fourth novel in Anthony Trollope's Palliser series returns the reader to the lucky Irishman Phineas Finn. Newly widowed, he decides to plunge back into politics by accepting an offer to run for a seat in the House of Commons. Yet Finn's luck soon deserts him, as his re entry is not rewarded with office and the income he needs to survive. Moreover, he suffers from the attacks of two new enemies --and he soon finds himself on trial for the most heinous of crimes.

One of Trollope's great strengt
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Jessica
Dec 30, 2010 Jessica rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: anthony-trollope
I love the way Trollope refuses sensationalism. He throws in a murder and immediately lets us know who really did it. It's NEVER about the plot with him--always character.

And usually the public character. We have no idea what jail was really like for Phineas, other than that it sucked and that he had a lot of company. I suppose this refusal to provide tantalizing details is just another example of Trollope's refusal of sensationalism.

I LOVE Lady Laura. Trollope sure gives her a hard time for ma
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Meredith
I enjoyed this as I have all of Trollope's novels so far. While the last book in the Palliser series focused on legalese outside the courtroom, this one actually contains a murder trial. And, typical Trollope, he takes out most of the suspense (he's so nice about coming straight out and telling you things ahead of time) and includes all of the legal detail, which would be boring if it wasn't Trollope writing.

One of the themes I noticed in this novel as with most of Trollope's work is how the li
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Paul
Jan 16, 2012 Paul rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: trollope
The fourth of the six Palliser novels revisits Phineas Finn and looks at the political stage in Victorian England. It is wide ranging and Trollope is at his best. He had recently stood for Parliament (unsuccessfully) and his disenchantment with politics shines through. The is a level of cynicism here not present in the first outing of Phineas Finn. Trollope dwells on the intricacies of elections and the party system and the towering political figure, Daubeney is clearly based on Disraeli.
Our her
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Christopher Roth
Of COURSE it gets five stars. It's Anthony Trollope. One of his best; lovely, perfect, etc. Those on anti-Semitism watch will note that the villain of the story is Yosef Emilius, a rather unsympathetic unscrupulous Jew who turns out to be a bigamist who also clubs a member of Parliament to death with a bludgeon in a dark alley. On the other hand, the beloved protagonist (an Irish Catholic) ends up marrying the widow Mrs. Max Goesler, a "Bohemian Jew" who rises above accusations that she is a gol ...more
Wendy
Jul 29, 2012 Wendy rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: audio-book
This book taught me more about fox-hunting and parliamentary politics than I ever thought I would want to know, although it main interest lies elsewhere, in the character of the protagonist and the two women who love him. Trollope's characters evolve with all the unpredictable complexity of unusual people. My only problem with this book was the constant reference, by narrator and characters, to a murder suspect as "the Bohemian Jew" and "that Jew"-- carrying out the Jew as Villain tradition work ...more
James Axtell
Jul 12, 2011 James Axtell rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
My second Trollope having previously read Phineas Finn (this copy was originally sent by Amazon in error!). Once again, after a couple of chapters getting reacquainted with the Victorian language, it became increasingly clear why Trollope's novels are considered classics. Having read Phineas Finn I found the characters familiar and the political sections more palatable. Indeed, Trollope's insights into the workings of the parliamentary process are as relevant today as ever. Whilst some of the ch ...more
Consuela
Jan 20, 2009 Consuela rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This is the 4th in the 6 Palliser novels by Anthony Trollope, but I consider it to be the sequel to the second in the series, "Phineas Finn." In this book we continue with "our hero" (as the author rightly calls him) but this time, unlike the first book where we see his meteoric rise, this one is full of woe and is much darker. But it's a wonderful book. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I might look into the rest of the books. But how could they possibly be as good as these two books?

Phineas continu
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Edward Butler
The best thing here is Trollope's profound account of Phineas' traumatic process, the rather melodramatic plot compensated by the author's psychological acuity, as I think is often the case with Trollope.
Mary
May 06, 2014 Mary rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
You just can't go wrong with Trollope.
Another excellent read following Phineas Finn.
I feel sad to finish as it's been my read for the past two weeks.
I still have The Prime Minister and The Duke's Children to read in the Palliser series.
I loved it!
Rick Folker
Feb 12, 2017 Rick Folker rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
always good trollope
Linda J. Sandahl
I think this is the finest of the Palliser novels; all of his greatest and most vivid characters from this series -- Phineas Finn himself, Madame Max, Lady Glencora and Plantagenet Palliser, Lady Laura Kennedy, Lord Chiltern and Violet Chiltern, Lizzie Eustace all appear, as do the unspeakable Rev. Emilius and Mr. Bonteen.
Besides an exciting murder plot, which comes as quite a surprise if you don't know it's coming, there is much of Trollope's insightful analysis of politics, as the political p
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John Wirenius
Nov 29, 2014 John Wirenius rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Phineas Redux long been my favorite of Trollope's Palliser or Parliamentary novels, and, after mining it for my own purposes (my sequel Phineas at Bay carries on the story that reaches its conclusion here), it was nice to go back to this great novel with no agenda.

A couple of thoughts in lieu of a more detailed review:

1. Interestingly, after heightening Madame Max's age in PF, Trollope lowers it again here--he makes her younger, describes her in more attractive terms, and generally recasts her a
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Anthony Trollope became one of the most successful, prolific and respected English novelists of the Victorian era. Some of Trollope's best-loved works, known as the Chronicles of Barsetshire, revolve around the imaginary county of Barsetshire; he also wrote penetrating novels on political, social, and gender issues and conflicts of his day.

Trollope has always been a popular novelist. Noted fans ha
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Other Books in the Series

Palliser (6 books)
  • Can You Forgive Her? (Palliser, #1)
  • Phineas Finn (Palliser, #2)
  • The Eustace Diamonds (Palliser, #3)
  • The Prime Minister (Palliser #5)
  • The Duke's Children (Palliser, #6)

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