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The Vegetarian Myth: Food, Justice, and Sustainability
by
Lierre Keith
Part memoir, nutritional primer, and political manifesto, this controversial examination exposes the destructive history of agriculture—causing the devastation ofprairies and forests, driving countless species extinct, altering the climate, and destroying the topsoil—and asserts that, in order to save the planet, food must come from within living communities. In order for...more
Paperback, 320 pages
Published
May 1st 2009
by PM Press
(first published 2009)
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Lierre Keith is a self-described radical, meaning that she basically wants to remake the world from (literally) the ground up. She lays out her idealized - well, not civilization because that's a bad word - but lifestyle for the world. While there are nuggets of value and interest in this book, they are mostly hidden in piles of sentimental, inflammatory, and repetitive filler.
The over-the-top sentimentality is eye-roll-inducing. Crying over slugs dying instead of...more
Lierre Keith is a self-described radical, meaning that she basically wants to remake the world from (literally) the ground up. She lays out her idealized - well, not civilization because that's a bad word - but lifestyle for the world. While there are nuggets of value and interest in this book, they are mostly hidden in piles of sentimental, inflammatory, and repetitive filler.
The over-the-top sentimentality is eye-roll-inducing. Crying over slugs dying instead of...more
I'm reading this book because I am a seeker of knowledge and I appreciate Truth, even in painful forms. That having been said, this book was not logical at all, and contained twisted truths at best. The examples given are highly emotional, yet utterly ridiculous anecdotal evidence that the author was a non-educated vegan, and instead of eating healthy, whole foods, she admittedly ate bread for every meal (pg. 69), and had very poor health overall (she mentions alcoholism and mental illness in ad...more
This is a must read for anyone who considers vegetarian/agricultural eating to be either morally or nutritionally superior or even comparable to a preagricultural/hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Lierre also makes a devastating case for the insustainability of agriculture.
She gets a little off topic at a few points by letting her anti-masculinity and anti-religion views shine through. I don't really mind this, but I think it detracts from, rather than contributes to, the major points in the book.
Anyon...more
She gets a little off topic at a few points by letting her anti-masculinity and anti-religion views shine through. I don't really mind this, but I think it detracts from, rather than contributes to, the major points in the book.
Anyon...more
This book took me by surprise, to put it mildly. More like it slapped me in the face. After learning that the author is a former vegan and a self-described "radical", my expectations for intellectual rigor and the pursuit of the hard truth were fairly low. But what I got was quite the opposite.
I loved this book. I can't remember the last time I read something so thought provoking and invigorating. Lierre Keith's writing is wonderful and at times borders on poetic. Throughout the book she intersp...more
I loved this book. I can't remember the last time I read something so thought provoking and invigorating. Lierre Keith's writing is wonderful and at times borders on poetic. Throughout the book she intersp...more
The prose is good; the reasoning less so. She lays out some very important facts, but many of the conclusions she twists out of them don't hold. She accuses pro-vegan medical evidence as confusing correlation with causation, but then she promptly does the same with pro-meat medical evidence. She correctly argues that agriculture, especially since WWII, is destroying the environment, so that when the oil runs out, the whole system collapses. She correctly points out that the carrying capacity of...more
The interesting thing about this book is that the author spends almost the entirety of it eviscerating radicalism when it comes to what we eat and then drives off the cliff of radicalism with prescriptions for society at-large.
The strongest sections in this work are when she touches on her personal journey from vegan to person-made-sick by veganism to what I think we would generally call a moderate eater of the Pollan persuasion. The entire takeaway point is the necessity of moderation in our di...more
The strongest sections in this work are when she touches on her personal journey from vegan to person-made-sick by veganism to what I think we would generally call a moderate eater of the Pollan persuasion. The entire takeaway point is the necessity of moderation in our di...more
An extremely well written, well thought out and depressing book. I'll start with the things I did NOT like about it:
The tendancy of the author to sort of meander, and occassionally slip into feminist rhetoric. While I'm all for feminism in countries that really need it, I find it alienating when people seem to blame it all on men. Who invented agriculture in the first place? The men hunting or the women gathering? What do you bet it was the women, who wanted a steady food supply so they wouldn't...more
The tendancy of the author to sort of meander, and occassionally slip into feminist rhetoric. While I'm all for feminism in countries that really need it, I find it alienating when people seem to blame it all on men. Who invented agriculture in the first place? The men hunting or the women gathering? What do you bet it was the women, who wanted a steady food supply so they wouldn't...more
Tim Ferriss (highly) recommended this book to me. I've always felt that there is nothing more impressive than seeing someone turn over a long held belief in light of new evidence. That's essentially the premise of this book-a 20+ year vegan finds it impossible to keep denying that meat is a natural part of the human diet and that it's certainly more "natural" than the heavily processed grains and crops that vegans eat. Her solution is sustainable farming and agriculture, harkening back to the da...more
This book is as the description says, 'part memoir, nutritional primer, and political manifesto.'
Lots of books talk about the harm eating processed foods and high levels of sugars and grains on our health, but this book is one of the few that combines this with information about the effect all these many grain crops have on our environment and on many different ecosystems.
The author talks about all the hidden death that is involved in the production of foods such as grain crops, and why vegan me...more
Lots of books talk about the harm eating processed foods and high levels of sugars and grains on our health, but this book is one of the few that combines this with information about the effect all these many grain crops have on our environment and on many different ecosystems.
The author talks about all the hidden death that is involved in the production of foods such as grain crops, and why vegan me...more
Mar 03, 2012
Mary Overton
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A sermon on how we will all be better off when we return to our noble-savage roots and live as hunter-gatherers. As is often the case with passionate screeds, Keith discusses many interesting ideas & theories.
"I didn't call this book THE VEGETARIAN LIE. I called it THE VEGETARIAN MYTH for a reason. It's not a lie that animals are sentient beings currently being tortured for our food. It's not a lie that the rich nations are siphoning off the life of the planet for literally oceans full of en...more
"I didn't call this book THE VEGETARIAN LIE. I called it THE VEGETARIAN MYTH for a reason. It's not a lie that animals are sentient beings currently being tortured for our food. It's not a lie that the rich nations are siphoning off the life of the planet for literally oceans full of en...more
Feb 22, 2012
Athena
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Lately I have been interested in books about the ways we obtain, prepare, and eat our food. I picked this book up yesterday and was excited to read about this stance--a once vegetarian (specifically vegan) practice that went back to a meat eating one. It seemed it would be a bit more level-headed and information-based, rather than an extremist point of view that we sometimes see on the vegetarian side AND the carnivorous side (keyword: sometimes. I do see some vegetarian reasonings explained tho...more
This is definitely an interesting read, but I found many things about the book itself problematic and generally disagree with her conclusions despite agreeing with some of her arguments. Until I find a superior book (which I hope will be easy to find)I would recommend conscious omnivores and vegetarians alike to read this book.
Let's start with her motivation to write the book. She was vegan for over 20 years and developed physical and mental health issues due to her diet. While it truly is sad...more
Let's start with her motivation to write the book. She was vegan for over 20 years and developed physical and mental health issues due to her diet. While it truly is sad...more
To say that this book, or even the author Lierre Keith herself, is controversial is an understatement of the grandest order. This book came to my attention at a time when I was beginning for the first time in my life to attempt to unravel the very questions that Ms. Keith scrutinizes, and I came to many of the same conclusions, despite the fact that she and I are diametrically opposed in other areas of our politics.
I am not a vegan, or a vegetarian, and in fact I have been in my life rather disd...more
I am not a vegan, or a vegetarian, and in fact I have been in my life rather disd...more
Oct 20, 2011
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Writer, feminist and environmental activist Lierre Keith is intimately familiar with the heated debates that ensue when omnivores and vegetarians face off to defend their respective diets. A vegan herself for nearly 20 years, she staunchly espoused the view that avoiding animal products is a healthier and more sustainable, humane way of eating. But when she fell ill and remained ill for more than a decade, she was forced to rethink her food choices.
Ultimately, she wound up challenging virtually...more
Ultimately, she wound up challenging virtually...more
Written by a former vegan and addressed to vegetarians from "inside the camp," as it were. Her rather biographical approach is frank and fact-based without being bitter. She is clearly sympathetic to the sensibilities of vegetarians. BTW--I am not a vegetarian, and I still found the book to be thought-provoking and informative.
Lierre (rhymes with Pierre) divides the book into three main sections, covering the nutrition, politics, and ethics of food as it applies to the idea of vegetarianism. In...more
Lierre (rhymes with Pierre) divides the book into three main sections, covering the nutrition, politics, and ethics of food as it applies to the idea of vegetarianism. In...more
Get ready for my longest review ever. And if you feel like following what I expect will be a lively conversation, I'm also going to post it on ourmotherskeeper.com.
I am giving this book 2 stars although on balance I disliked it. There were pieces and passages that I found lovely and illuminating, and they deserve a star. But on the whole, this book was packed full of false choices.
From the title onward, Keith aims her knife blade in strange directions. The foundational argument of this book is...more
I am giving this book 2 stars although on balance I disliked it. There were pieces and passages that I found lovely and illuminating, and they deserve a star. But on the whole, this book was packed full of false choices.
From the title onward, Keith aims her knife blade in strange directions. The foundational argument of this book is...more
Lierre Keith, in Vegetarian Myth, presents her readers with several convictions she has thoroughly researched and argues passionately:
1. Agriculture (& diet) based on annual grains is ecologically devastating, inhumane, and unsustainable.
2. Despite our technological advances, humans are still fundamentally interwoven into Nature's cycle of life & death. In order for our planet to continue to sustain us, we must embrace our part in this cycle, acknowledge that death begets life, and recon...more
1. Agriculture (& diet) based on annual grains is ecologically devastating, inhumane, and unsustainable.
2. Despite our technological advances, humans are still fundamentally interwoven into Nature's cycle of life & death. In order for our planet to continue to sustain us, we must embrace our part in this cycle, acknowledge that death begets life, and recon...more
For all the vegetarians I know and love, avoid this book, but read the nutrition chapter since I don't want you to die, deal with depression, or kill your brain with soy.
Definitely a diatribe and an emotional outlet for anger at the problems society has created and her inability to make a larger difference and almost starve herself to death in the process. I turned to someone while reading and literally said "This book makes me feel guilty about being human." Get past that and take it with a gra...more
Definitely a diatribe and an emotional outlet for anger at the problems society has created and her inability to make a larger difference and almost starve herself to death in the process. I turned to someone while reading and literally said "This book makes me feel guilty about being human." Get past that and take it with a gra...more
This was one of the more controversial books we carried this year. A quick look at the online reviews will tell you the same thing - people are worked up about this thing. Lierre Keith is a brave, brave woman. I wouldn't want to pick a fight with every vegan in the world at the same time.
What I think has been lost in the furor is that her point - the heart of her point, at any rate - is very simple, and very hard to argue with. We take turns eating and being eaten - we consume today, but will b...more
What I think has been lost in the furor is that her point - the heart of her point, at any rate - is very simple, and very hard to argue with. We take turns eating and being eaten - we consume today, but will b...more
This is an anti-vegan book which will be a difficult book for vegans to read. The text resembles more a stream-of-consciousness monologue than an organized discussion. The author is an ex-vegan, after having been a vegan for 20 years, and blames most of her numerous health problems (skeletal problems of some sort, evidently) and mental problems (depression, anger) on her vegan diet.
But this is an indictment not just of veganism, but of agriculture in general, and indeed our entire civilization,...more
But this is an indictment not just of veganism, but of agriculture in general, and indeed our entire civilization,...more
More accurately titled "The Vegan Myth", I think.
Broken up into three sections - Moral, Political, and Nutrition. Moral was a retelling of the Omnivore's Dilemma and punctuated with (unintentionally) amusing anecdotes about attempts at "vegan" gardening (apparently plants are unable to comprehend their own cruelty at demanding animal bits in order to live). I skipped the Political section entirely and quit the Nutrition section (which is an amalgam of Protein Power, GCBC, and Nourishing Traditio...more
Broken up into three sections - Moral, Political, and Nutrition. Moral was a retelling of the Omnivore's Dilemma and punctuated with (unintentionally) amusing anecdotes about attempts at "vegan" gardening (apparently plants are unable to comprehend their own cruelty at demanding animal bits in order to live). I skipped the Political section entirely and quit the Nutrition section (which is an amalgam of Protein Power, GCBC, and Nourishing Traditio...more
A 20-year vegan who started eating meat out of a desparate attempt to heal her constant and chronic health problems, the author had her eyes opened to both the damaging effects of a grain-based diet and the devastation agriculture has wreaded on the planet. And now she wants to let everyone know how she, and the vegetarians still practicing, got it all wrong. For one thing, she totally skewers the claims that eating a grain-based diet is better for the environment. The destruction of topsoil and...more
I think this book can help a lot of people. As a vegan for twenty years, Lierre definitely has had first hand experience of what a vegan diet can do to the body. I have been a vegetarian off-and-on in my life and I will never again venture down that road after reading this book. The key point Lierre makes is that we cannot equate the horrors of factory farming with the act of eating meat. Of course, factory farming is brutal but using animal products (including digestion of their flesh) is not t...more
The Vegetarian Myth might aptly be titled The Myth of Civilization, as Keith's major accomplishment is to dismantle the misguided teleological view that time equals progress, that agriculture equals sophistication, that death is the end. This book is part personal narrative, part scientific exploration, which together form a reasoned plea for food justice and environmental sustainability.
I have read the oft-quoted Michael Pollan, studied Peter Singer's applied ethics, listened to my vegetarian f...more
I have read the oft-quoted Michael Pollan, studied Peter Singer's applied ethics, listened to my vegetarian f...more
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This author is obviously angry at being fooled into believing that a vegan lifestyle would be better for her and the planet, and the book is an impassioned argument against such beliefs. Her arguments against the three main arguments for vegetarianism (ecologic, moral, and health) also appear quite strong, although I suspect there is some handwaving at times where the science gets beyond her. In particular, I noted the use of "chemfear" (the belief that "if you can't pronounce it it must not be...more
This started out pretty good, but lack of purpose and close-mindedness shone through most of the second half of the book. People tend to not eat or use meat products for a variety of reasons. It seems like a large undertaking to try to convince all of them that they're wrong. I think that the author went about it the wrong way in some parts. She had her own issues with eating vegan, but she never presented her actual diet: just that it didn't work for her and she had myriad resulting health issu...more
This controversial book has been a love-it-or-hate-it affair for many.
Some see it as a manifesto for those who reject militant vegan and eco-vegetarian approaches.
Others reject it strongly for its large lapses in substantiation for its sometimes-erroneous factual claims.
I would have thought myself a shoo-in for inclusion in the latter category, and yet...
I found myself captivated by this book, despite the sometimes-foundational factual and technical errors that pepper the pages.
For me, the book...more
Some see it as a manifesto for those who reject militant vegan and eco-vegetarian approaches.
Others reject it strongly for its large lapses in substantiation for its sometimes-erroneous factual claims.
I would have thought myself a shoo-in for inclusion in the latter category, and yet...
I found myself captivated by this book, despite the sometimes-foundational factual and technical errors that pepper the pages.
For me, the book...more
I agree with the basic premise and many of the arguments in this book, and I'd strongly recommend it to vegetarians and carnivores alike. I found it incredibly useful to help me understand and articulate the devastation that conventional agriculture and factory farming inflict on our planet and our health. The nutritional information here is also incredibly important - that processed soy, seed and vegetable oils, and a low-fat diet can be incredibly damaging to human health, and may indeed be to...more
I was torn when trying to review this book. It should really have been called The Vegan Myth as alot of her arguments are based around people eating no animal products. Anyone with sense knows that a vegan diet is destructive to the body. You only have to look at Gillian mcKeith to know that! However I think it is possible to live healthy and sustainably on a vegetarian diet.
I think everyone should ask themselves what grows where they live? What can you eat that doesnt need to be imported from a...more
I think everyone should ask themselves what grows where they live? What can you eat that doesnt need to be imported from a...more
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