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Sophist: The Professor of Wisdom

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This is an English translation of Plato presenting a new conception of the Theory of Forms. Socrates and others discuss the epistemological and metaphysical puzzles of the Parmenides, with aims to define the meaning of the Sophist. The glossary of key terms is a unique addition to Platonic literature by which concepts central to each dialogue are discussed and cross-refere ...more
Paperback, 104 pages
Published January 1st 1996 by Focus (first published -360)
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مكالمه ى سوفيست، به شناخت ماهيت سوفيست مى پردازد. سقراط در اين گفتگو ساكت است و بيگانه اى الئايى صحبت مى كند.


خلاصه ى مباحث

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Timothy
Sep 30, 2012 Timothy rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
By the middle of the book here's what I really wanted to see happen:
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STRANGER: There are some who imitate, knowing what they imitate, and
some who do not know. And what line of distinction can there possibly be greater than that which divides ignorance from knowledge?

THEAETETUS: There can be no greater.

STRANGER: Was not the sort of imitation of which we spoke just now the
imitation of those who know? For he who would imitate you would surely
know you and your figure?

THEAETETUS: Naturally.

STRANGER
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Luís C.
Being and Non-Being

Plato begins his dialogue with the purpose of defining what is the sophist. In its various partial investigations, I believe that all of the most important is that the accounts of the nature of the "non-being". Contrary to what we can intuit the "non-being" is not necessarily the opposite of "being", but only something other than "being". In my view, this is the central argument that allows the philosopher continue and correctly complete their investigation into the being of
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Bülent Çallı
Mar 12, 2016 Bülent Çallı rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
“Bilmek ve bilinmek sizce etki midir, etkilenme midir; yoksa her ikisi birden midir?”

Platon, Sofist.s.80

Antik Çağ’ın lanetli biraderleri olan sofistler, ilk başta, bilgiyi sorgulayarak ve şüpheyi düşünceye sokarak felsefe sahnesine nefis bir giriş yapmışlardı. Pek kısa bir zaman içerisinde bu sorgulama ve şüphe tehlikeli bir akıl yürütmeye ve sonra da kullanışlı, kaypak bir ilkeye dönüştü: Düşünmek, var olan bir şeyi düşünmektir. Yanlış düşünmek ise var olmayan bir şeyi düşünmektir. Var olmayan
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Tim
Jul 08, 2011 Tim rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Sophist is one of the few Platonic dialogues which don’t have Socrates as the main character (all are from the late period). This seems to offer Plato some advantages, especially for this book’s purposes. Using the Eleatic Visitor as the main speaker allows Plato to make sustained arguments consisting of series of positive statements as opposed to the Socratic character’s standard approach, claiming to know nothing and play the midwife of others’ thoughts – asking questions, testing answers, usu ...more
Seth
Jun 04, 2008 Seth rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
A Sophist is a hunter of young boys by the way.
Vatroslav Herceg
Naprijed, ZGB. 1975.
Preveo Milivoj Sironić. Sironić je super dopunio prijevod fusnotama u kojima je ukazao na dvosmislenosti i problematici određenih mjesta u tekstu. Primjerice;
"Teetet- Uistinu se, stranče, čini da je istinito ono u početku rečeno o sofisti da je to vrsta ljudi koju je teško uloviti. Čini se da je on pun zaklona..."
Riječ "zaklona" u matičnom jeziku posjeduje duhovitu crtu dvosmislenosti,"problema" na starogrčkom označava i "zaklon", "zid", "barijera" ali također i "prijeporno
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Catherine
Mar 24, 2012 Catherine rated it it was amazing
Shelves: 2012
Although the Sophist is not my favorite of Plato's dialogues, I have to give it points for keeping me awake in the dark for several hours. I just could not stop thinking long enough to get to sleep. I actually ended up having to get up in the middle of the night and jot down a few thoughts!
While part of that was due to the dialogue itself, I think that an equal, if not greater, force behind my preoccupation was that I could hear the individual voices of Mr. Kalkavage, Mr. Salem and Ms. Brann. I
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Jeenar ژینەر

من لە بەینی هێز و توانای ئەفڵاتوون سەرم سووڕماوە

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پرسی سەرەکی ئەفڵاتون وەکو ناوی دەمەتەقێکە بریتیە لە دیاریکردنی سۆفیست
چ جۆرە کەسێکە ؟ کاری چییە ؟ چییە ؟
کە ئەگاتە ئەو قەناعەتەی سۆفیست بریتیە لە
" لاساییکردنەوەی دروستکردنی ئاخاوتنی ناکۆک،
چەشنێکی ناذڵسۆز و نەزانی سەر بە چەشنی ڕووکەشدروستکەری جۆرە کۆپیدروستەرێکی
وشەسازی سەر بە دروستکراوێکی مرۆیی، نەک یەزدانیە.
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Jesse
May 18, 2010 Jesse rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is the best example of dialectic reasoning. Heidegger masturbated over his copy; you should too.
Thompson
This dialogue is the companion diaglogue to Theatetus. Plato continues his thoughts on his theory of knowledge.
Sah Angoluan
Sophist dialogue was primarily for explaining the nature of Sophist is, after Socrates asked the Stranger, whose name weren’t even mentioned, about whether in his place (Elea), Sophist, statemen and philosophers are one or three different names. At first, I presupposed that the dialogue will tackle primarily on those three, but after reading it, understand it with all my might. The dialogue was all about the Sophist, maybe thats the reason why does this dialogoue was named after it.
The stranger
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Thomas
Jul 01, 2014 Thomas rated it really liked it
Sophist is not the most beautiful dialogue in the canon, but it is important, and this is an excellent translation. Sophist follows on the heels of Theaetetus, which explores how error occurs when the categories of thought are confused. Sophist examines how those categories interact with each other in an effort to locate where the Sophist hides: in non-being. But first the Stranger has to resolve a logical obstacle: how can the Sophist hide in non-being, when on the face of it non-being simply i ...more
Bob Nichols
Socrates hands off the lead for this dialogue to a "visitor from Elea” who is a member of “the group who gather around Parmenides and Zeno.” The visitor serves as a mouthpiece for a perspective on the Sophists that is shared by Socrates. Sophists, referred to as a “tribe,” have “expertise in persuasion” or “expertise in pleasing people,” using pleasure as “bait” in a “money-making branch of expertise in debating, disputation, controversy, fighting, combat, and acquisition.” A Sophist is “a hired ...more
Bruce
Aug 15, 2014 Bruce rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Plato’s Sophist is the first of three linked dialogues, the second being Statesman, and the third, never written, presumably being Philosopher. The events of the dialogue purportedly take place on the day following Theaetetus. Socrates plays no role in this dialogue, the questioner being the Visitor (in Nicholas P. White’s translation), called by some other translators the Stranger or the Eleatic Stranger. The young Theaetetus again is the naïve foil.

The quest seems to be to define what a sophis
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Garrett Cash
You see, one of the problems with the dialogues I'm now reading of Plato's is that they were composed during his so called "late" period, also synonymous for when he became a garrulous geezer. A genius garrulous geezer, but an unbearably dull one. In this dialogue, Socrates has been tossed out for a "Stranger" who takes Socrates's place as the dude who claims to not know anything but constantly talks as if he does. According to a passage in Statesmen, it seems like Plato's contemporary critics c ...more
Linda
Feb 26, 2014 Linda rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: philosophy
Don't you love a book with an original publication date of -360? (This fatuous opening should warn the reader that this review is written by one who is NOT a philosophy student.)

Sophist is the title of one of Plato's dialogues. In this highly readable text there are two speakers: Stranger, a philosopher, and Theaetetus, a student. The issue that triggers their Q&A is, What is a sophist? It is not a "spoiler" to tell you that a sophist in Plato's time was a person who claimed to know everythi
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Draco3seven Crawdady
Nov 07, 2007 Draco3seven Crawdady rated it it was amazing
Recommends it for: philosopher and scholars
Shelves: philosophy
The concept of the sophist is one of the most important concepts in at least Western academia... and maybe all human thinking....
Plato’s dialogue The Sophist is concerned with defining what the sophist is or more precisely defining what the sophist does and in so doing giving meaning to the term. So Plato’s goal here is to explain actions that define the term, and so explain the methods that define the sophist. Roughly the sophist is some one who is not concerned with truth and genuine knowledg
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Genni
Mar 15, 2015 Genni rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: philosophy
To be or not to be? That is (almost) the question. Until Plato shows that being and not-being are not so much opposite as they are just different. Ha.

Really. I am still swirling around in this one. We are supposed to discover the difference between a sophist, a philosopher, and a stateman, but somewhere in the middle we begin a discussion on abstract opposites, most specifically being and not-being. This was really reminiscent of the argument from contraries in Phaedo, but again, he deals with a
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Eric
Apr 20, 2012 Eric rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Socrates takes a back seat in Plato’s Sophist, which primarily features Theaetetus and the “stranger,” a philosopher from Elea who Theaetetus has invited to participate in the day’s discussion. Their dialogue is an attempt to track down the nature of the sophist. Their primary methodology is pursuing a series of classifications based on binary divisions. Following a practice round focusing on the angler, they start hunting the sophist. They—though mostly the Stranger—come up with a variety of de ...more
Sam L
Feb 19, 2014 Sam L rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This dialogue purportedly aims to expound the nature of the Sophist, as distinguished from the Statesman and the Philosopher. The interlocutors are an Eleatic stranger, who is a bit of a know-it-all and could probably do with being taken down a peg or two, and Theaetetus, who can barely get a word in edgeways. It starts with this excruciating bit where they're all saying things like 'ooh, is the Sophist an artist? Sure, so is he an acquisitive artist or a creative artist? An acquisitive artist? ...more
Colin
Oct 12, 2012 Colin rated it really liked it
Working through the Sophist as an introduction to a Seminar I am taking on Aristotle.

Read this Dialogue a few times from "Plato: Complete works" Edited by John Cooper and found this to be a much easier translation to follow, especially if it is a close and careful reading.

The downside is that at times there are words which are clearly translated into more colloquial and modern English. This serves the reader well for having a better sense of what is happening within the dialogue, but from a lite
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Andrei Andreevich Andreevski
How is this a dialogue when all THEAETETUS is saying is "true", "yes", "indeed", "i agree" etc. ? It was more of a distraction from the Stranger's arguments, but whatever: I learned about fishing, trading, where the Divide et Impera algorithm may come from, beings and non-beings (which was 80% of the book and that somehow lost me with all the states, movements, identity and differences), finishes with an introduction to verbs and nouns and from all those concludes that there are people who know ...more
Hakan İlker
Jun 25, 2016 Hakan İlker rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Platon'un (ya da Sokrates'in) diyalog şeklinde çürütmeye dayalı Metinlerini okumayı pek sevmezdim. Fakat her ne kadar orijinalin değil, çeviriden çevrilse de gayet güzel bir çeviri, yerinde dipnotlar, güzel baskı ile Sofist kitabı gerçekten beni kendisine hayran bıraktı. Retorik ustası sofistlere ben biraz sevgili besliyorum ve kinci Platon sofistleri bir yabancıyı konuşturarak alaşağı ediyor. Varlık felsefesi hakkında gerçekten sağlam şeyler var kitapta. İletişim'den -siyaset felsefesi klasikle ...more
Nedloha
While i am not big fan of this dialogue, find it boring, i also think i got what he was trying to convey. Sophist means a master of discussion but foremost - intelectual kind of fraud, and i think its finely conveyed by long monotonous and meaningless categorizations. It seems kinda meta and ironic. I almost thoughts that it may be Herman Melville's favourite dialogue, i bet
>Sophist is a man who sell a knowledge. While there is no man who knows everything, he must be fraud, to make believe th
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Niva Couto
Aug 17, 2015 Niva Couto rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
sabe aquelas discussões imaginárias que você tem no chuveiro e sempre ganha porque na sua cabeça a outra pessoa é meio retardada e não sabe como responder, mas que na vida real você nunca teria se saído tão bem? esse livro é exatamente isso. era pra ser um diálogo entre um estrangeiro e Teeteto - bela tradução de nome hein, porra, parece um DJ - sobre sofismo e acaba sendo o primeiro falando um monte de merda silogística (o céu é azul, meus olhos são azuis, logo meus olhos são o céu) e o segundo ...more
MirijamZ
Mar 13, 2013 MirijamZ rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Der Sophist ist eindeutig kein Buch, das man aus Vergnügen nebenher mal eben lesen kann. Platon hat allerdings die Suche nach der definitiven Definition einer Sache in einen Dialog verpackt. Dadurch kann man den Eindruck gewinnen bei dem Gespräch selbst anwesend zu sein und Rückfragen, die man selbst vielleicht stellen würde werden durch den Gesprächspartner im Buch gestellt. Wer ist denn nun dieser Sophist? Gibt es Unwahrheit? Existiert Nichtseiendes? Fragen, deren Antworten wir als selbstverst ...more
Urh
Oct 10, 2014 Urh rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Nobody should read a book that can be easily summed up. This book in interesting, but not as much as almost anything Plato wrote. It is a debate about what is the difference between a philosopher and a mere wordsmith that meddles with words, mimes the culture in tries to use every part of science, but not knowing anything in its entirety.
In fact dialog have much to tell and try to be informative, but the main thing to be missed in this work is Socrates. Plato at one time even speaks ideas could
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Edith
Nov 28, 2010 Edith rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
O.k. Since now, whenever somebody asks me what's the point of reading Plato after nearly 2500 years, I can laught earnestly.
This was a truly extraordinary experience. Plato is quite regardful writer, he makes sure everybody's got the point before he moves on. Trying to define (and succeding in it which is a nice change from Hippias Major) the concept of Sophist, he manage to designate a neat classification of all human activity, prove that Non-Being exists, define the concepts of Being, Not-Bein
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George C.
Dec 11, 2013 George C. rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Definitely more than meets the eye in this one. On the surface it seems to be "vitiated with confusions" (Frede), however once you take a moment to get acclimated with the subject and the language being used, the content and discussion is quite simple to understand (though lofty). It seems Plato was one of the first to tackle a subject such as this, something many of us just assume or take for granted.
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Plato is a Classical Greek philosopher, mathematician, student of Socrates, writer of philosophical dialogues, and founder of the Academy in Athens, the first institution of higher learning in the Western world. Along with his mentor, Socrates, and his student, Aristotle, Plato helped to lay the foundations of Western philosophy and science.

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“We are completely perplexed, then, and you must clear up the question for us, of what you intend to signify when you use the word "being". Obviously you must be quite familiar with what you mean, whereas we, who formerly imagined we knew, are now at a loss.” 2 likes
“Stranger: 'Are not thought and speech the same, with this exception, that what is called thought is the unuttered conversation of the soul with herself?

Theatetus: Quite true.

Stranger: But the stream of thought which flows through the lips and is audible is called speech?

Theatetus: True.

Stranger: And we know that there exists in speech...

Theatetus: What exists?

Stranger: Affirmation

Theatetus: Yes, we know it.”
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