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“[A work of] wit, wisdom and richness. . . . A grand tour of derangement, from matricide to anorexia.” —John Leonard, Harper’s

This fascinating history of mind doctors and their patients probes the ways in which madness, badness, and sadness have been understood over the last two centuries. Lisa Appignanesi charts a story from the days when the mad were considered possess

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Paperback, 560 pages
Published August 31st 2009 by W. W. Norton & Company (first published 2007)
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Laurie
Appignanesi chronicles the history of mental illness and women from the time when mental illness first became thought of as something that actually could be treated. At first, hospitals for the mentally ill were nothing more than storage facilities to keep the patient out of the families hair. Gradually, however, doctors came to feel that treatments, from isolation rooms to Freud’s ‘talking cure’ to ECT to all the assorted drugs, old and new. There have always been more female mental patients th...more
Caitlin
Jun 30, 2008 Caitlin rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: The psy-curious
Appignanesi offers a detailed and critical review of the last two centuries of "mind-doctoring", from alienism to physiognomy to psychoanalysis to psychiatry. However, one gets the sense that the loose focus on women came only after the book was written, more as a suggestion from her editor to pare the tome down, rather than being the author's incipient specialization. Throughout the entirety of the book, Appignanesi re-addresses the topic of womanhood just at the point when the reader double-ch...more
Kate Gould
Possession, love, sex (too much or too little), religion, abuse, grief, and heredity, to name a few – the causes of women’s madness are myriad. Taking the most consistent bashing as cause by the “psy” professions is mothers. No surprise there: when she hasn’t been accused of rendering sons unfit for military service by over-nurturing them, she’s been driving daughters to anorexia with inattention.

Appignanesi’s account takes in obscure and well-known patients and their doctors. It both affirms c...more
Sylvie
I really enjoyed the historical examples of the treatment of women with mental health problems, and the clear way Appignanesi breaks down theories and treatments.

As the book progressed, I felt concerned that the 'mental health biographies' of modern figures were almost salacious: I felt this most strongly with the passages concerning Sylvia Plath and Marilyn Monroe. I also felt uncomfortable with some aspects of Appignanesi's conclusions (where modern medication and therapies do more to create...more
Tiziana
This book uncovers the history of psychiatry through the personal lives, studies and achievements of the principal mind doctors whose main focus was to understand and treat women and who left a mark in this medical area.

The narrative goes on in a more-or-less chronological manner, starting from the late 18th century and traversing the main countries (Britain, France, Austria, USA) in which psychiatry started to evolve. It starts from the atrocious conditions in European asylums and Pinel's icon...more
Kate
Longlisted for the Samuel Johnson prize, which is about right. It's clearly a Serious Work intended for that sort of prize, but it's so oddly bloodless and unengaging that it doesn't deserve to go further. Appignanesi seems more interested in the therapists, male and female, than the patients, none of whom get much of a look-in, despite being the ostensible subject of the book. There is no attempt to look at the experience of madness even when she is discussing women who wrote extensively about...more
Kate F
This is a big book about a huge subject. It intrigued me in the book shop and has largely kept my interest throughout. It could perhaps have been reduced by about 25% in length without any loss of interest - indeed it would have benefited from a litlle pruning. The case histories that she used were particularly interesting. I found the sections about the various amendments to the diagnostic manuals for mental health rather heavy going and could quite happily have skipped those bits had I not tho...more
msd
It took me forever to read this, or at least quite a few months, for it is big of book and I am small of brain, and also easily distracted by other books, also known as internets and fanfictions.

It’s a riveting book though, once you start to read it in a serious way, setting out to describe the relationship between psychiatry and women over the last 200 years, from 1800s onwards, looking at women like Sabina Spielrein, Zelda Fitzgerald, Virginia Woolf, Sylvia Plath, and more.

It's a heavy heavy...more
Lindsay
Oct 07, 2008 Lindsay rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: anyone interested in the history of the mental health profession or women's history
Recommended to Lindsay by: the New York Times Book Review
A lively, well-researched look at women's experiences of mental illness and its treatment from the late 18th century to the present day. Chapters are arranged in roughly chronological order, with each chapter highlighting a particular theme that predominated each era's understanding of mental illness and its expression. (Appignanesi is a big believer in cultural influences dictating the form a mental illness takes). Each chapter also features one or two famous case histories that illustrate thes...more
Dillon
In all honesty, this was a weird book. Well, it is about the woman mind. Mad, Bad and Sad by Lisa Appignanesi is full of facts and contradicitons of the woman mind. It explains discrepensies back to the date of the 1800's to today. The book covers past asylums in history and also the schizophrenia that goes along with women. All in all, this was a decent book, at times the book seemed really long (560 pages) and dry and before i knew it, i read about 10 pages and was thinking about something tot...more
Sam
Nov 26, 2008 Sam rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Sam by: women's bookgroup
A fascinating history of both womens'role and how women have been treated by the psychiatric and psychoanalytical professions as they have evolved. While the author claims not to disparage modern medicine its a bit disingenuous. My only disappointment is that while her criticisms are thought provoking and valid she doesn't have any real conclusion to the work. In some ways she very nearly suggests that its the existence of the psychoanalytical professions that cause the problem in the first plac...more
AJ LeBlanc
I didn't finish this one. It was too much textbook and long case study for me to get excited about.

I read Flow: The Cultural Story of Menstruation about a year ago and was hoping this would be the same type of book. I was looking for information on how the mental health profession has developed and the role women patients played in it.

This book might have gotten there, but I couldn't get my brain where it needed to be to really sit down with the material and read.
D.E. Meredith
Read this book twice now, with a year's gap. Brilliant case studies and well put together. Fascinating stuff and a really good one to read alongside Roy Porter and his various books on madness. Despite its girth, I read it incredibly quickly. The stuff at the end on anorexia and eating disorders, was very interesting as I came at this book with my Victoriana hat on. It seems women have forever been driven mad by the world's merciless expectations and Appignanesi is nothing if not passionately em...more
emily
Nov 06, 2013 emily marked it as didnt-finish  ·  review of another edition
didn't finish this one, and i maxed out my library renewals on it hoping at some point i'd feel motivated to dive back into the dense & quite often roundabout text that this book appeared to be. i don't think i got further than the first 100 pages, but even within that space the topic seemed to cycle around half-irrelevant points continuously until i forgot what the point actually was in the first place. it would need a hefty edit and an author with a bit more spark in their writing (non-fic...more
Sarah
I tried to get through this book. I really, really did, as there's a wonderful amount of information in hear about the history of the psychiatric profession in general, along with numerous case studies of how the mental health field has been applied to women though the past several centuries.

Sadly, there was just too much of a Textbook Effect at work for me to make through the final third. The sheer density of the material ultimately defeated me, and when I found myself skimming entire chapters...more
Sherri Griffin
This is not the easiest book to plow through, but it's an interesting book in small doses at a time. Luckily, each section is relatively small so it's easy to read in bits and pieces. It was fun to learn about famous women like Marilyn Monroe in a way you may not have heard before, while also reading about new stories with women who history had forgotten. Some of it's shocking, some if it is appalling, and some of it is just interesting. For what it is and if you love history-- it's worth readin...more
Sarah
I'm in two minds about this book. The subject is interesting, and the post-Freud chapters were especially fascinating, but the book was poorly executed. The writing got quite dense and there were some egregious editing errors. I kept thinking how much better it could/should have been. On the whole I'm glad I read it, but would only recommend it if you have a strong interest in the subject matter.
Gerald
I thought this book very apt, thorough and enlightening. Many of the threads and strands it explores are done clearly and brilliantly. The latter chapters on personality disorders, medication and the medicalisation of mental illness were thought provoking and inspiring: to do something against the over medicalised field of what is perhaps a more social and cultural diagnosis.
Ellie
There were sections in this book I found very interesting; some of the stories of patients or "mind doctors" were very interesting to read and compare how things have changed over time. Ultimately, however, I was disappointed with this book. I really felt it was a trudge to get through it and for little enjoyment in comparison to the time it took me to read it.
Kathrina
Nov 24, 2009 Kathrina rated it 4 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: deep thinkers.
Recommended to Kathrina by: self discovered
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I've become a little facinated with flawed women. I was in St Kilda Readings when I spied this book. Wow did i learn something! It's a great way to discover the history of mental institutions and psychiatry. Very interesting. Although i have found that the author over complicates the writing. I find it unnecessary and ruined some of the book for me. Fabulous book.
Brittany
One of the many books I had to read for school, this book was good. Informative to a fault, insightful and enlightening. Written well and in a slow build up so everything makes sense.
But it is dense; a very heavy read that would have been more enjoyable had I not had four other things to read on top of it.

Genevieve Dingle
A very intriguing history of societal responses to mental illness, told through a series of cases of women. I liked the attention to the women's experience from their journals and letters and also broader considerations of the roles and rights of women in each era. It has informed my teaching in clinical psychology.
Lizzi
I loved this - entertaining as well as educational and thoroughly fascinating. However I think it rambled on a bit and could have been shorter. Full review of my blog here: http://theselittlewords.com/2013/07/2...
Sarah
It was interesting, but really could have been put together in a more compelling manner. Also - a book about women, but by volume it sure seemed to be very about men instead. If this was some sort of meta-message, it was not effective.
Basma
كيف بدأت الأمراض النفسيّة بالظهور ، كيف تم التعامل معها منذ ٢٠٠ عام .
كتاب مثير للإهتمام جداََ . ويحتاج لصبر طويل ، لكن الجميل بأنك تذهب وتعود إليه دون خوف أو قلق .
مثير للدهشة لمن يهتم بالأمراض العقلية والنفسية .
Jo
Although this took me a while to read (almost a week) I did find it interesting and was intrigued by the ever changing views and attitudes towards mental illness and it's treatment.
Cate Brown
An interesting overview that goes off on tangents sometimes but all in all engaging and obviously well researched. Some fascinating chapters. Worth a read if you are into this subject.
Sherah
This is a more up to date version of earlier 'women and madness' texts by Chesler, Showalter, and Ussher. Less biased, though. Worth the read.
Amanda Seyderhelm
Critical feminist overview of women's relationship with the psyche doctors over last century. Brilliantly researched and intelligently written.
Morag Gray
A fascinating account of the history of the treatment of mental illness, particularly pertaining to women. Worthwhile reading.
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Elżbieta Borensztejn was born on 4 January 1946 in Łódź, Poland, the daughter of Hena and Aaron Borensztejn with Jewish origin. Following her birth, her parents moved to Paris, France, and in 1951 they emigrating to Canada. She grew up in the province of Quebec - first in a small Laurentian town, subsequently in Montreal.

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