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The Lives of Animals
by
J.M. Coetzee,
Amy Gutmann , Peter Singer , Wendy Doniger (Goodreads Author) , Barbara Smuts , Marjorie Garber
The idea of human cruelty to animals so consumes novelist Elizabeth Costello in her later years that she can no longer look another person in the eye: humans, especially meat-eating ones, seem to her to be conspirators in a crime of stupefying magnitude taking place on farms and in slaughterhouses, factories, and laboratories across the world.
Costello's son, a physics prof...more
Costello's son, a physics prof...more
Paperback, 136 pages
Published
April 16th 2001
by Princeton University Press
(first published 1999)
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Suddenly, at the end of this short, intense book, in the final four line paragraph, tiers of argument dissolve and John Bernard consoles his distraught mother, “There, there. It will be over soon.” We are aware that John Bernard is referring to what has been a draining, arduous couple of days for his mother, Elizabeth Costello, famous Australian feminist author, invited to Appleton College “to speak on any subject she elects”. It has been a heavy few days for John too, his ageing mot...more
Suddenly, at the end of this short, intense book, in the final four line paragraph, tiers of argument dissolve and John Bernard consoles his distraught mother, “There, there. It will be over soon.” We are aware that John Bernard is referring to what has been a draining, arduous couple of days for his mother, Elizabeth Costello, famous Australian feminist author, invited to Appleton College “to speak on any subject she elects”. It has been a heavy few days for John too, his ageing mot...more
This novella is actually the two-part lecture that Coetzee gave at Princeton in 1997. Here Coetzee presents the topic of human cruelty toward animals through fiction, with fiction writer Elizabeth Costello invited to give a distinguished lecture at a university, and this is her topic of choice. The controversy of her lecture is argued, discussed, and rebutted by academic characters including Costello's son and his wife. The philosophical, poetical, and literal approaches to Costello's chosen sub...more
This story is ingeniously written. Coetzee, invited to give two talks as part of a university lecture series, instead delivers a fictional story in two parts about a novelist who is invited to give a series of university talks. His lecturer, Elizabeth Costello, chooses to engage with the philosophies underlying vegetarianism and humane treatment of animals, rather than speak about her own work. Meanwhile, his protagonist (her son and a junior professor at the university), must navigate the socia...more
Surprisingly compelling, although perhaps not so suprising. Coetzee is a master story teller, even when his story is the philosophical (and poetic) contemplation of animal rights. His clever meta-lecture ruse is engaging, provokative and a smooth read. His gifts contrast all the more with the intelligent but not nearly as masterful commentaries that accompany the lecture. The commentaries i enjoyed the most were from philosopher Peter Singer and primate biologist Barbara Smuts. As a pseduo-veget...more
As others have exhaustively noted, Coetzee's 'lectures' take the form of a two-part literary inquiry with the question of animal cruelty at its center. But the title, "The Lives of Animals" is at least a pun, for the lectures regard not only the lives of the animals we eat, but also lives of the animals we are. For the question is not merely "What are they?" that we should treat animals as we do, but "What are we?" that we should treat animals as we do. This move, which occurs at the book's outs...more
this short work cleverly uses the platform of a fictive academic lecture -- which coetzee later presented, metatextually, at princeton -- to condense many familiar and unfamiliar arguments about eating and treating animals. is Costello, the impassioned novelist and lecturer in the book, a mouthpiece for Coetzee? probably not. that ambiguity is likely what allows coetzee to lay out such a morally charged and ultimately irresolvable exchange.
the impasse in which humans find themselves when it com...more
the impasse in which humans find themselves when it com...more
Not for everyone. But for those who seriously consider what is/can be/should be the relationship between our species and other animals this is a thought-provoking book. For me this book shows the weakness of trying to apply human logic to the question of what do animals think? are they aware of their mortality? is their suffering as important as ours? For goodness sake - how can we know those things? Why should animals think like humans in order to merit compassion and respect? The format of the...more
This is another Odyssey project reading.
The book as a whole is kind of interesting because of the essays that accompany the main story, which is a pair of lectures written as a fiction story.
That said, the main story of the novelist giving lectures about how humans should do something in regards to animals differently than they do now falls flat for me. Coetzee's apparent alter ego of Costello doesn't seem to know what she wants people to do. She is a vegetarian, but doesn't suggest that for ot...more
The academic novel (in this case, novella) is an interesting, lesser-known, and supposedly underrated sub-genre, and in "The Lives of Animals, this setup explores animal cruelty using philosophy and literary analysis--an interesting vessel, though not the most engaging either, as I found the main character flat and mostly emotionless. A strong argument either way, and the four supplemental essays afterward were helpful and enjoyable, especially those by Peter Singer and Barbara Smuts. A good rea...more
Stands out from other books on the topic of animal-human interaction, animal-rights, vegetarianism and so forth because it is written as fiction. As a result Coetzee avoids contributing to the autodidactism of so much of the lit on these subject as well as the compulsion to give tidy answers to a very complex situation. Coetzee's characters don't have it all figured out, but why should they? Is that the point? So the book is 'good to think' as any on the subject. The commentaries attached only u...more
Gosto de gente como Coetzee, porque que não dá a mínima para o leitor médio. Idem. Nesta novela da vida real - ou da vida dos animais, estes "outros" - pouco importa se o que lemos é metaficção ou metarealidade. Já não o sabemos e isso não importa mais.
Consideremos este um romance acadêmico, a propósito de imprimir um rótulo fácil e digerível. Entretanto, é acima de tudo um idílio com a imaginação e direitos que só consideramos humanos e que, definitivamente, não comoverá a maioria.
Consideremos este um romance acadêmico, a propósito de imprimir um rótulo fácil e digerível. Entretanto, é acima de tudo um idílio com a imaginação e direitos que só consideramos humanos e que, definitivamente, não comoverá a maioria.
A brilliant work by a Nobel laureate in literature and a wonderful book to start the year with. A superb form of academic novel (a novel genre, I could say, if the pun may be forgiven), this is top-notch writing on a theme of profound and enduring significance for anyone concerned with human values and connections with other animals.
J. M. Coetzee, invited to Princeton to deliver the prestigious Tanner Lectures on Human Values, presents the lectures as a fictional story with debate and dialogue c...more
J. M. Coetzee, invited to Princeton to deliver the prestigious Tanner Lectures on Human Values, presents the lectures as a fictional story with debate and dialogue c...more
Le conferenze di Coetzee sotto forma di racconto alle Tanner Lectures presso la Princeton University:
"... si concentrano su una questione etica importante: il modo in cui gli esseri umani trattano gli animali."
Coetzee crea un romanzo con un suo personaggio, Elisabeth Costello scrittrice, invitata a tenere delle conferenze in una università.
La signora Costello é un'anziana donna, stanca e sfiduciata dell'umano essere e dei suoi comportamenti criminali.
E mentre l'aspettativa degli uditori é sent...more
"... si concentrano su una questione etica importante: il modo in cui gli esseri umani trattano gli animali."
Coetzee crea un romanzo con un suo personaggio, Elisabeth Costello scrittrice, invitata a tenere delle conferenze in una università.
La signora Costello é un'anziana donna, stanca e sfiduciata dell'umano essere e dei suoi comportamenti criminali.
E mentre l'aspettativa degli uditori é sent...more
I read this book for my writing course, Our Animal Selves. Coetzee writes about a famous author, Elizabeth Costello, who is invited to give a talk at a university. Coincidentally, her son works there. While there, Costello doesn't given an expected speech about literary works, but about human-animal relations. The next day she gave a seminar about poets and animals and finished her visit with a debate with a philosophy professor.
It was kind of hard to pick apart the arguments Costello used since...more
It was kind of hard to pick apart the arguments Costello used since...more
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Elizabeth Costello's emphatic critique on the treatment of animals in the west delves deeply into questions of western reason, academia, the holocaust, and literature. Coetzee's choice to speak through her raisers even more questions on authorship, identity, and Coetzee's actual beliefs. This short book is well worth the read to anyone interested in being a good person (I use that word purposefully!). Be sure to read the reflections, especially Barbara Smuts reflections on human-animal friendshi...more
I really disliked this book. I am a vegetarian, and I think this book could only provoke even more hate and disapproval towards vegetarians, because of poor and inconclusive arguments. Also, philosophy is not a good framework for this, because it is too abstract for something so real, so painful and so tangible, so touchable. Extremely not convincing and just plain old "doing it wrong".
This was the book that changed by attitude to eating meat. I could no longer evade the central question of the unnecessary cruelty invloved and our capacity to collude to denying that fact by splitting it off from our meat munching. A powerful arguemnet skillfully fictionalised. Trully a book that changes my life.
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Cannot rate this text - I really only enjoyed the contribution by Barbara Smuts in this text. I thought Elizabeth Costello's character is in a very interesting dilemma, and Coetzee's approach is intriguing, but I found it a bit of a cop-out and am unsure about my feelings on him and the text.
Try as I might, I could not get into this book and it became a slog to finish. The characters seemed two dimensional and, although some interesting points were made, I lost interest fairly early on. I am not a vegetarian, nor could I ever be althoug I admire those who are, but I don't think this book did much for the vege cause.
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John Maxwell Coetzee is an author and academic from South Africa. He is now an Australian citizen and lives in South Australia.
A novelist and literary critic as well as a translator, Coetzee has won the Booker Prize twice and was awarded the 2003 Nobel Prize in Literature.
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A novelist and literary critic as well as a translator, Coetzee has won the Booker Prize twice and was awarded the 2003 Nobel Prize in Literature.
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“I want to find a way of speaking to fellow human beings that will be cool rather than heated, philosophical rather than polemical, that will bring enlightenment rather than seeking to divide us into the righteous and the sinners, the saved and the damned, the sheep and the goats.”
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Nov 11, 2010 02:46am
Not an inkling. Maybe wine dulled pain, or bleared my vision!
Nov 11, 2010 06:44am