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See Under: Love
In this powerful novel by one of Israel’s most prominent writers, Momik, the only child of Holocaust survivors, grows up in the shadow of his parents’ history. Determined to exorcise the Nazi “beast” from their shattered lives and prepare for a second holocaust he knows is coming, Momik increasingly shields himself from all feeling and attachment. But through the stories h...more
Paperback, 480 pages
Published
January 12th 2002
by Picador
(first published 1986)
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Jun 06, 2012
Mariel
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5 of 5 stars
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your head is shouting please please please
Recommended to Mariel by:
we will never write you off
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He realized he had spent most of his life as a daring trapeze artist on that high scaffold, and that he had always been careful not to look down, because looking downward and inward would have frightened him and made him recognize, much to his sorrow, that he wasn't a trapeze artist but a jailor. That somewhere along the line force of habit, fatigue, and negligence had turned him into the accomplice of the people with their hands joined around him.
My twin said something the other day about her p...more
My twin said something the other day about her p...more
In the first part of this book, Momik - the young son of Holocaust survivors, born and raised in Israel - says that grownups sometimes call him "alter kop", which in Yiddish means "old head". And he is, in a way, an old man in the body of a child. He is intelligent and painfully serious; he has no friends his own age but is drawn to the aging and deranged Holocaust survivors who populate his neighborhood in Jerusalem (which, believe me, is a creepy enough town as it is). But though wise beyond h...more
I read the first 100-page chapter of this book in one stunned sitting the summer my son was born. I don't normally read Holocaust related fiction, but See Under: Love captivated me and tore me up. I lent the book to a dear friend who couldn't get past the opening pages, so I guess it's not for everyone, but for those with a tolerance or liking for magical realism, unusual plotting, and (truly) heartbreaking genius.
Quando si incontra un autore come Grossman la prima cosa da fare è sedersi.
In seguito bisogna munirsi di umiltà, aprire tutti e cinque i sensi all’apprendimento e diventare discepoli di un insegnante che accompagna lungo un percorso profondo, enigmatico, talvolta insidioso, ma infine soddisfacente e di arricchimento personale.
‘Vedi alla voce: amore’ è più di quanto lontano possa esserci da un libro, ‘Vedi alla voce: amore’ è un cammino a tappe volto a far scoprire cosa sia stato quell’evento d...more
In seguito bisogna munirsi di umiltà, aprire tutti e cinque i sensi all’apprendimento e diventare discepoli di un insegnante che accompagna lungo un percorso profondo, enigmatico, talvolta insidioso, ma infine soddisfacente e di arricchimento personale.
‘Vedi alla voce: amore’ è più di quanto lontano possa esserci da un libro, ‘Vedi alla voce: amore’ è un cammino a tappe volto a far scoprire cosa sia stato quell’evento d...more
Really good. In the first chapter, Momik is our protagonist. He's a boy of Holocaust survivors. His whole perception of their experience takes on mythological elements because of their unwillingness to talk frankly about that time in their life. In part two, Momik is grown-up and channeling Bruno Schulz and dreaming of a sea mistress. In the third part we learn about Anshel Wasserman, Momik's great-uncle who also lived through the Holocaust, namely by entertaining a German officer in a Scheheraz...more
Ik geef het op. Ik heb me door deel I geworsteld, ik raakte verstrikt in deel II en besloot het over te slaan. Ik ben begonnen aan deel III maar vandaag is de kogel door de kerk: ik stop ermee. Hoe vreselijk ik het ook vind om een boek niet uit te lezen, na meer dan een maand worstelen is het goed geweest, ik geef me over. Dit boek is duidelijk niet voor mij geschreven.
Het eerste deel gaat over Momik, de verteller in deel 2 en 3. In deel 2 springt de ik-persoon van de hak-op-de-tak in een verha...more
Het eerste deel gaat over Momik, de verteller in deel 2 en 3. In deel 2 springt de ik-persoon van de hak-op-de-tak in een verha...more
This book is just on the verge of being impossible to read. A Mobius strip of narratives, points of view, time sequence, and plot in which it seems essential to the writer that the reader never get completely oriented. So, even though I did want to throw it across the room any number of times for tossing me off the deck into the sea one more time, I gave it four stars. Why?
First, there are a 117 incredible ideas in this book and I would not have missed any one of them (although I'm sure I did!)....more
First, there are a 117 incredible ideas in this book and I would not have missed any one of them (although I'm sure I did!)....more
This book shouldn't hold together as well as it does. So many disparate elements that, to me, shouldn't be attempting to work in cohesion. Child of holocaust survivors/cynical israeli author attempting to write about the holocaust whilst straightening his own life/post modern travails/camp inmate writer going all 1001 and nights on a camp commandant....in a lesser writer's hands this story woulve collapsed into an amorphous mess, falling under the weight ofg tis own ambition. But Grossman succee...more
there is lots of literature on the holocaust but this is by far my favorite holocaust representation. it is so, so impressive. mostly I say this because of the first section (there are four total), which is an 80-page story about a little boy named Momik. you could totally read this part without reading the rest of the book - it stands alone, and is just plain GOOD in that breathtaking way that short pieces sometimes are. the second section is very challenging to read and makes very little sense...more
This is the most intense, and incredible, books I've read in a while. It took me almost a full month to read, but the effort was well worth it. The novel is preoccupied with finding a linguistic world to inhabit post-Holocaust:
"He knew that a language that will admit a sentence like 'I killed your Jew...In that case, I will now kill,' etc., a language where such verbal constructs do not turn to poison in the speaker's mouth--is not the language of life, human and moral, but a language infiltrate...more
"He knew that a language that will admit a sentence like 'I killed your Jew...In that case, I will now kill,' etc., a language where such verbal constructs do not turn to poison in the speaker's mouth--is not the language of life, human and moral, but a language infiltrate...more
When i first read “Someone to Run With”, i knew i would not rest until i finished reading all Grossman’s books. This one did not disappoint. I found myself crying at the very end of the book. Without a doubt is difficult to speak about Holocaust…, but is is extremely hard to speak about it to the new generation. Tha’s what Grossman did in this book. All of the characters and the plot make it so much interesting to read. So, to me, Grossman did an amazing job in this book.
I really recommend this...more
I really recommend this...more
This was a real trudge for me. I gave it three stars because there were aspects of it that I found really interesting. My favorite part of the book was definitely the first section - it was downhill from there but the last section was very good as well. This book is a translation and I thought that was done extremely well too. But there were parts of it that really dragged for me - whole sections even.
In this powerful novel by one of Israel’s most prominent writers, Momik, the only child of Holocaust survivors, grows up in the shadow of his parents’ history. Determined to exorcise the Nazi “beast” from their shattered lives and prepare for a second holocaust he knows is coming, Momik increasingly shields himself from all feeling and attachment. But through the stories his great-uncle tells him—the same stories he told the commandant of a Nazi concentration camp—Momik, too, becomes “infected w...more
This was a very difficult book to read and even more difficult to feel with any certainty that I understood what the writer was saying. That said, I am actually reading again to see if I can sort things out. This is an author I respect and I feel the effort will pay off. The strong desire that humankind should exist without war is one message I heard.
Mi sono innamorata di Grossman con il "Cerbiatto" ma questo libro proprio non mi � piaciuto. Non si capisce niente, flussi di coscienza, cambiamenti di scenari... Interesante e originale il dizionario alla fine del libro.
Momik est un petit garçon de neuf ans qui grandit à Jérusalem. Autour de lui, les adultes parlent de "la Bête", celle qu'ils ont affronté "Là-Bas", celle qui a emporté le frère de grand-mère. Jusqu'au jour où celui-ci, Anshel Wasserman, revienne et soit placé chez les parents de Momik.
Momik se lance alors dans des expériences pour tenter de comprendre ce qu'est la Bête et pourquoi elle fait tant peur aux grands. Devenu adulte, Momik continue à traquer la Shoah.
Le style de ce roman, qui prend pou...more
Momik se lance alors dans des expériences pour tenter de comprendre ce qu'est la Bête et pourquoi elle fait tant peur aux grands. Devenu adulte, Momik continue à traquer la Shoah.
Le style de ce roman, qui prend pou...more
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It's difficult to give a book by David Grossman just one star. I thought that his books "Someone to Run With", and "To the End of the Land" were excellent and loved them both. I had a heck of a time following all the different stories within stories in "See Under Love", and had to force myself to finish it. I have this nagging concern that there are ways in which this book trivialized the Holocaust. For well-done books about the Holocaust, "The Book Thief", "Stones from the River", and "Every Ma...more
Jun 14, 2010
Steph
marked it as to-read
I started reading this, but just it wasn't the right time. Will try again though as I am interested in this story.
Pretty amazing. Grossman's writing sytle is different than anything I've read before. He jumps around a lot, both in style and plot, occasionally flowing into free verse. If you're not ready for it, it can be fustrating but once you resign yourself, it's very compelling.
He's got some magical realism goin' on in there which is fun. Not sure if 'fun' is the best way to describe it as most of the material is pretty depressing if you think about it enough. A reference in the book now has me reading...more
He's got some magical realism goin' on in there which is fun. Not sure if 'fun' is the best way to describe it as most of the material is pretty depressing if you think about it enough. A reference in the book now has me reading...more
The last third made the slog worth it. Gut-wrenching, just soul-wrecking, how much truth is told in that last third. I want to actually buy the book (and it's a rare book that compels me to actually purchase it) and go back through with a pen and a highlighter, just so I can remember all the moving, amazing, painful parts. Whew. I need a break from these brutal slogs.
Absolutely mind-reeling. David Grossman continues to knock me off my feet in the most amazing ways. To the End of the Land is still my favorite of his, likely only winning over this one given how often disturbed I was in reading this. heh... In any case, I'd say Grossman is near impossible to beat when it comes to matters of sheer humanity. Flipping brilliant.
The first section called Momik was very good perhaps he should have made it a novella and called it a day. Publisher's Weekly described it aptly "Although stylistically daring, the bulk of Grossman's novel never re-creates the pathos that introduced Momik the child." In other words, it becomes sulky and unreadable...maybe it's something in the translation.
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Leading Israeli novelist David Grossman (b. 1954, Jerusalem) studied philosophy and drama at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and later worked as an editor and broadcaster at Israel Radio. Grossman has written seven novels, a play, a number of short stories and novellas, and a number of books for children and youth. He has also published several books of non-fiction, including int...more
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Leading Israeli novelist David Grossman (b. 1954, Jerusalem) studied philosophy and drama at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and later worked as an editor and broadcaster at Israel Radio. Grossman has written seven novels, a play, a number of short stories and novellas, and a number of books for children and youth. He has also published several books of non-fiction, including int...more
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