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Helle Barden (Discworld #15)

4.35  ·  Rating Details ·  58,451 Ratings  ·  1,143 Reviews
A Young Dwarf's Dream

Corporal Carrot has been promoted! He's now in charge of the new recruits guarding Ankh-Morpork, Discworld's greatest city, from Barbarian Tribes, Miscellaneous Marauders, unlicensed Thieves, and such. It's a big job, particularly for an adopted dwarf.

But an even bigger job awaits. An ancient document has just revealed that Ankh-Morpork, ruled for deca
Paperback, 377 pages
Published 2000 by Goldmann (first published November 11th 1993)
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Becci I have to say no.
Younger adults will probably enjoy it, but the literary and social commentary will probably go over their heads.
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I have to say no.
Younger adults will probably enjoy it, but the literary and social commentary will probably go over their heads.
Think of this as a fantasy noir book.

Having said that I gave this to a 12 y/o friend who raced through it and came back for the rest of the series....(less)
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Sep 08, 2013 Patrick rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell w
Jun 29, 2009 Patrick rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is the second book in the City Watch storyline in the Discworld novels. And I have to say, it's probably twice as good as Guards Guards.

All the characters are more fully realized and more compelling. What's more, it's obvious to me reading now that Pratchett has multi-book plans for the central characters: Carrot, Vimes, and Angua.

Detrius also has a pretty strong secondary arc in this one, and we see the begining of some of Pratchett's Troll Vs. Dwarf discussions that come to beautiful fru
Brandon Sanderson
(This review is from 2006.)

All right, the short of it is I really liked the book. The long of it is, I’m very annoyed at Terry.

Those of you who have been following things here know that I just sold the Alcatraz books to Scholastic. They’re essentially humorous fantasy—evil librarians running the world and all that. I wrote them because I was a little frustrated at the market. I could find funny books (Snicket) and I could find books with good worldbuilding (Pullman) and I could find books with c
May 06, 2013 Melki rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Vimes smiled. Someone was trying to kill him, and that made him feel more alive than he had done in days.
And they were also slightly less intelligent than he was. This is a quality you should always pray for in your would-be murderer.

Murders are rare in Ankh-Morpork. Suicides and assassinations...well, they're a dime a dozen, but genuine murders are pretty darned rare. But DEATH has been busier than usual lately, and it's up to Carrot and Vimes of the Night Watch to figure out what the heck is g
Steven Harbin
I'm probably biased, but I'm come to love everything I've read so far by Terry Pratchett, so perhaps my 5 stars should be taken with the proverbial "grain of salt". Still, I enjoyed this one immensely. The Discworld books sometimes have series within the overall series that follow a group of characters. This book is the 2nd in what I call the "Guards" series, following the Night Watch of Ankh-Morpork which is led by Sam Vimes.
After the events of Guards! Guards! the Watch is being expanded, both
Apr 21, 2015 Richard rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: comedy, fantasy

I'm going to say that to date this is the best Discworld novel I've read. The characters are well rounded with a blend of people from the last novel developing further and new additions adding to humour and conflict in equal measure. The plot is well written with plenty of twists and turns and not until near the end did things tie up nicely making it a well driven read.

The layers to this novel were quite something, on the surface this is a murder plot but underneath it is littered with po
Sep 06, 2016 YouKneeK rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Men at Arms is the second book in the City Watch subseries of Discworld. I liked this one better than the first book, Guards! Guards!. The story held my interest much better, and I enjoyed the characters more. Of course, it had a lot of the same characters as the first book, but I thought this one focused on more interesting characters. I like Carrot quite a bit, and we see a lot of him in this book. There are also two new members of the watch, Cuddy the Dwarf and Detritus (don’t salute!) the Tr ...more
May 16, 2011 Tfitoby rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Barely a year has passed since the last idiot in Ankh-Morpork thought they could unleash an unholy hell to help them overthrow the great tyrant ruler of their city state only to find themselves meeting the grinning face of the feline loving Death of the Disc sooner than anticipated and somebody is at it again, only this time with the help of a 'gonne.' Vimes is off getting married and Carrot is inheriting a watch embracing equal opportunities, including the evolution of Detritus the troll in to ...more
David Sarkies
Feb 04, 2014 David Sarkies rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: comedy
The Nightwatch Returns
13 February 2014

Terry Pratchett is now taking aim at the detective fiction in his gonne sights in one of the most amusing Discworld books that I have read to date (though that is a bit of an exaggeration, but this book does sit up there with the best of the series). We now return to the antics of the nightwatch and discover that there have been some promotions (though poor Noddy is not among the ones who have been promoted). The Patrician has also decided to embrace the id
2013 July 4

Pratchett can wright a novel about integration and politics and gun control that keeps one amused and engrossed and thoroughly engaged the whole time. I enjoyed it so much that as soon as I was finished I purchased the next Discworld book I hadn't yet read, Interesting Times, to start immediately.

And as many Pratchett books as I have read and loved at this point, I still find it hard to say why they're so great. There is always plot, often more than enough for several books. In this c
Sarah Sammis
Jul 26, 2007 Sarah Sammis rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: pc
Men at Arms is the second book I've read for the Beach Blanket Bonanza. My husband (whom I originally introduced to Pratchett's books) has been selecting the best of the Discworld books for me to read and I have been enjoying these reading "assignments" thoroughly.

Men at Arms is the next in the "Night Watch" group of books. Vimes is on the eve of his retirement from the watch and about to get married. Meanwhile, bodies are showing up in Ankh-Morpork and a new weapon has been stolen. Carrot and a
Olga Godim
Jul 23, 2013 Olga Godim rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy-scifi
This novel was a joy to read. The second in the Watch sub-series, it is as much a fantasy as a mystery. People often die in Ankh-Morpork, mostly from suicide (walking along some of the city streets after dark is definitely suicidal), but now a series of murders have been committed. Sam Vimes, the Captain of the Night Watch, starts the investigation, and various complications spring in his way with predictable regularity.
The plot of this novel is just a pencil sketch, a colorless collection of e
Mar 25, 2010 Jamie rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Men at Arms is Terry Pratchett's fifteenth ...woah, really? This is the fifteenth Discwordld book? And I'm not even HALFWAY done with the series yet? And he's still writing them? That's AWESOME!

Anyway, in Men at Arms returns to the metropolis of Ank-Morpork, specifically the Night Watch charged with preventing suicides, such as suicide by strolling through the wrong part of town or saying the wrong thing to any of its inhabitants. Captain Samuel Vimes is relegated mostly a B-story for most of th
Magrat Ajostiernos
¿Por qué no puede salir Vimes TODO EL TIEMPO?

*******Muy fan de Detritus**********
Men at Arms, the first[1] book in Pratchett's City Watch subseries, makes for a wonderful introduction to the characters and world of Discworld. Admittedly, it's comparitively weak in some respects; like so many other series I've encountered, it suffers from "first book syndrome": weaker characterization, more predictable plot, and less elegant language. However, once you read it, you can get into the good stuff with an almost complete background of the characters. It can also be safely skipped ...more
Ms. Smartarse
When I have first encountered the members of the City Watch, I rather disliked them. They were always misunderstanding everything due to missing about half of the big picture, and thus causing additional problems for the hero.

Thud!, the first novel that I've read about them, didn't exactly endear the characters to me either. Oh I liked Angua: smart, pretty, with a 'mysterious' monthly affliction AND all-around dangerous aura; basically the epitome of a kick-ass heroine.

Angua in Going Postal movie adaptation

Thinking back on it, I'm g
Наталия Янева
В живота на всеки настъпва все някога такъв момент, че нещата се преобръщат. За някои това може да означава да заменят гадното кафе, ниската заплата и набиването с тънкоподметкести ботуши по мокър калдъръм нощем за аристократична лицемерна компания, пури и самовзривяващи се в близък периметър дракончета. За други пък е да погледнат отвъд предразсъдъците си и там да намерят истински приятел. За трети може да бъде просто да се доверят.

Във „Въоръжени мъже“ този път протагонистът безсъмнено е Керът.
May 26, 2013 Dimitris rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
So, does it take wiping tears off one's face to know if a book you've just finished was worth the read? And I'm not talking tears of laughter, though Men at Arms is so wonderful at attacking one with a sense of humour oscillating from the brilliant puns and ingenious word-play to the outright outrageous fun, often taking a traditional comedy gag and turning it on its back. And then tickling it senseless.

Add to that, a brilliant humanistic (in the broader sense of course, as This reader is very
Patrick Grau
Jun 08, 2015 Patrick Grau rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
La saga de la Guardia de Sir Pratchett es de por sí, un buen conjunto de NOVELAS NEGRAS por definición, y esta en concreto no es buena. Es MUY BUENA. El asesino ronda por ahí desde el principio (Que por supuesto no os diré quien es.). No tiene el clásico error de Agatha Christie de sacarse pistas de la manga, así como personajes, en la resolución del caso, no. ¿Los personajes? El estreno de Angua, Detritus ( Cuando se le enfría el cerebro... Terry ¡ QUE MASTER DEL UNIVERSO NARRATIVO ERES, JODER ...more
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4 stars. I have only read 2 other Discworld books so I hesitated to rate this as a 5 because maybe I will like some of the other books in the series even more! In the end, I decided I can always change my rating later if necessary.

Pratchett writes a story that moves right along yet manages to slip in things for you to mull over along the way, such as the true purpose of police or the nature of power. I love the footnotes, which I noticed in the first of his books I read, Hogfather. Carrot, the s
Best one yet! Reading the Discworld series in order is paying off. Really paying off. Can't imagine reading this without all the back stories for so many delightful characters. This is one of the first Pratchett novels I ever bought and I'm very glad I never got round to it until this quest of reading the complete series in order. Most of my favorite characters appear. Sweet plotting. Human insight and understanding. Comedy. Not a better way in the world to spend time.
Jamie Collins
Feb 15, 2012 Jamie Collins rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy, humor
This was my second Pratchett novel, and it was a very fine read, quite hilarious. It’s the second book of his City Watch novels. I think I will read some more of these before branching out into the rest of Discworld.

I loved the new characters - the dwarfs and trolls and the dogs.
Mary Catelli
Aug 20, 2013 Mary Catelli rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: high-fantasy, humor
The second Watch novel. I note for those who read the first that Carrot changes quite a bit. But on the whole I think the second version is better.

But Vimes is about to quit and become a gentleman of leisure by marrying the wealthy Lady Sybil. Political forces have made the Night Watch take on three new recruits: a dwarf, a troll, and a woman. Unbeknownst to most watchmen, there's something additional about one of them.

Murders happen. A dwarf dies in his workshop but is tossed in the river. A cl
Octavia Cade
Sep 24, 2016 Octavia Cade rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
For many years this was my favourite Discworld book - even over all the ones with Granny Weatherwax. It still may be; I've yet to read The Shepherd's Crown. In fact, the whole reason I'm doing this Discworld reread at the moment is so I can put off reading the last book of Discworld for just a little longer... because it is the last, and because I suspect it may dethrone even Men at Arms as my favourite Discworld novel and I like to stretch out the potential a little longer.

But this book? I ador
Megan Baxter
Feb 06, 2016 Megan Baxter rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I've said before that my enjoyment of Terry Pratchett books tends to wane in direct proportion to how I'm feeling. Oddly, when I'm not feeling well, his books seem to hit a sweet spot - the perfect amount of attention and diversion. When I'm feeling well, they don't tickle me quite so much.

Note: The rest of this review has been withheld due to the changes in Goodreads policy and enforcement. You can read why I came to this decision here.

In the meantime, you can read the entire review at Smorgas
Oct 10, 2012 Roviragrao rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: relecturas
(Relectura Mundodisco #15)

Las cinco estrellas se me quedan cortas. La mejor de las quince primeras novelas del disco.

Pratchett te transmite el amor por sus personajes, ya sean nuevas incorporaciones o viejos conocidos de anteriores novelas. Además de la evolución de Vimes y Zanahoria, destaco los grandes momentos cómicos que proporcionan dos insólitas parejas: Angua/Gaspode y Detritus/Cuddy.

La novela nos habla sobre las armas y sus peligros, la aceptación de las diferencias, el poder y la resp
Feb 29, 2016 Knigoqdec rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Настава обичаен хаос, когато в Стражата започват да наемат и "същества от малцинствените групи". Трябва да се закълнат възможно най-скоро, че да има време за "Всичко е наред!"
Но едно ново чудо ще удари града с реката, върху повърхността на която спокойно можеш да нарисуваш силуета на някой убит.
Керът... ще се промени някак...
А капитан Ваймс... ще се жени...

Очарователна и забавна, може би в повечето моменти някак по-сериозна от всичко, което досега имах възможността да прочета за Света на Диска.
Jul 30, 2013 Suranjana rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Ananya Rubayat, Tajwar Hoque, Pramiti Anasuya Alam, Pranab Kairy
Recommended to Suranjana by: হাঁটুপানির জলদস্যু
Shelves: favorites
Those who read this will smile lots. :)
Nov 12, 2013 Kathleen rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The narration is old tech with too much static. Terrible quality. Good thing I had the book on hand. Book 2 in the Discworld "City Watch" sub-series features the Assassins' Guild and the invention of a gun / gonne, with satire relating to the ethical and judicial consequences thereof. Featuring beloved returning characters like Sam Vimes, Lord Vetinari, the huge "dwarf" who could be King (Captain Carrot), Nobby Nobbs, etc. And introducing new recruits to ensure diversity among the City Watch: La ...more
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“Something Vimes had learned as a young guard drifted up from memory. If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you're going to die. So they'll talk. They'll gloat.

They'll watch you squirm. They'll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.

So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.”
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