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1985

3.50  ·  Rating Details  ·  676 Ratings  ·  45 Reviews
In characteristically daring style, Anthony Burgess combines two responses to Orwell's 1984 in one book. The first is a sharp analysis: through dialogues, parodies and essays, Burgess sheds new light on what he called 'an apocalyptic codex of our worst fears', creating a critique that is literature in its own right. Part two is Burgess' own dystopic vision, written in 1978 ...more
Hardcover, 240 pages
Published by Not Avail (first published 1978)
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Greg
Apr 12, 2008 Greg rated it liked it
Shelves: fiction
I came across a reference to this book while thumbing through a biography on Anthony Burgess about five years ago. Since then I have kept my eyes opened looking in used book stores and those kinds of places for a copy of the book. I could have probably found the book to buy online, but I rarely ever do that kind of thing for myself. Last week though in a semi-ironic act I actually went to a library and saw that they had the book, so I took it out and finally got the read it.

The structure of the
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Rex Cherry
Oct 07, 2012 Rex Cherry rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Right-wing garbage. The loathsome politics seem to have adversely affected the quality of Burgess' writing as well.
Kaethe
Aug 14, 2014 Kaethe rated it really liked it
I think I'm the only one who's ever read this, but I loved Burgess' effort and his essay on 1984. I found it on the new books shelf at the UNCG library, where, geek that I am, I was hanging out with my boyfriend in high school. We'd just go and sit and read, or look up old Rolling Stones on microfiche. I picked a lot of random books of the shelf then and sat there, reading them. come to think of it, I probably spent more time just hanging out there in high school than I did in college, when I co ...more
verbava
Jul 22, 2015 verbava rated it it was ok
Shelves: dystopia
маленька берджесова книжка розділена на дві частини: перша майже половина плюс епілог – спроба критичного погляду на "1984" і жанр антиутопії загалом; усе, що між ними, – власне "1985", антиутопія, яку берджес бачить реальнішою за орвелову чи гакслівську.
окремо ці частини доволі читабельні. у теоретичній берджес аналізує орвела і змушує подивитися на деякі елементи його тексту по-новому, що приємно; орвела (і повоєнну велику британію) він знає. але заплив на територію томаса мора чи євгенія зам
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Matthew
It is always interesting to see one good author's take on another. In this case Anthony Burgess, author of A Clockwork Orange and The Wanting Seed, evaluates and criticizes George Orwell's 1984. After extensive interviews and essays on the nature of Orwell's seminal work, Burgess pens his own short novella, entitled 1985 (to avoid plagiarism, so he says.) Burgess's view of the cacotopian future is much closer to his own vantage point in strike plagued late 70's Britain, than was Orwell's in the ...more
Daniel Moskowitz
Jul 26, 2011 Daniel Moskowitz rated it did not like it
Geesus Christ!! Was that a richful Fucking waster. This Book has nothing, i repeat, NOTHING to do with 1984. It's a dystopian, or a Burgess wants it to be called Cacotopian, novel like 1984 and that's about it.

The book spends the first half, HALF!!!, in a review/critique of 1984 and how in the years since its inception how things have changed and how Orwell would write his vision if he did in '75 or whenever this book was written. But it doesn't even do that well.

It just rambles about the times
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Christian D.  Orr
Jan 25, 2015 Christian D. Orr rated it really liked it
Essentially, two books in one: (1) A thought-provoking and intellectually-stimulating critique & analysis of George Orwell's "1984"and (2) a mini-novel that's not so much a sequel as a re-write of "1984" With both segments, Anthony Burgess (of "A Clockwork Orange" fame) has the benefit of 30 years of hindsight that Orwell did not have, i.e. 1978 vs. 1948 (remember, Orwell originally intended to title his most famous work "1948," and only changed it to "1984" as the last minute after a sugges ...more
Gemma Williams
Dec 30, 2007 Gemma Williams rated it really liked it
This is Anthony Burgess' response to 1984. The first half is made up of critical essays dealing with the themes of the original and is fascinating. I especially liked the way Burgess takes on Orwell's portrayal of the proles as an inert mass and the way he sentimentalises them. But this isn't an attack on 1984, its a good indepth critical discussion.
The second half is Burgess' short novel 1985 - his version of the story. This view of the future involves a tyranny of trade unions, and enforced eq
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Stuart Dean
This book comes in two parts. The first part Burgess interviews himself and gives opinions on George Orwell's 1984. It's rather interesting and made me even more interested in reading the 2nd part of 1985, which is the novel itself. It's about a guy named Bev Jones in The United Kingdom run by The Union Council, Tucland for short. King Charles is the figurehead and the Parliament is basically powerless, the country being run by unions which are mostly government owned. A tragedy convinces Bev it ...more
Joe Hudson
Started reading this (the story not the essays) but I've had to give up. I hate giving up on books but this one really isn't for me.
Mohamed Elsonpaty
Sep 26, 2013 Mohamed Elsonpaty rated it liked it
رواية معارضة لرائعة جورج أورويل 1984 تتصور فيها العرب والمسلمين قوة فاعلة غي العالم بفعل إحكامها على النفط ومن ثم المال.. الرواية فكرية بدرجة كبيرة حتى فقدت الرواية روائيتها.. إمتاع الرواية يأتي من فكرة قراءة رواية عام 2013 كتبت عام 1978 تتخيل فيه العالم عام 1985 !!!

على الهامش (الرواية بتصور العرب قوة جامدة أوي وبتغير في العالم كله بفلوسها وبترولها .. الكاتب مكنش يعرف اللي فيها جتنا نيلة!)
Raimo Wirkkala
It was a nice try at the time but, in retrospect, Burgess' vision of trade unions taking over England looks a little silly today. All in all, Orwell's harrowing fascist world of "1984" is the more compelling and, even today, the more plausible.
That being said, the novel is a good read and the preceding material about "1984" is very interesting.
Hodgesensei
Apr 18, 2010 Hodgesensei rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Burgess successfully predicts what Orwell cannot: the hyper-sexualization of youth and the breakdown of family, the unionization of governmental agencies, and the Islamization of England. Sound familiar? And yet this was written in the 1970's!

The question is, is America next?
Saddam Bouchaib
Dec 28, 2014 Saddam Bouchaib rated it did not like it
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هههههههه كم اظحكتني هذه الكلمات , لو يرى ما آل إليه الجزائريون الآن , فالاسلام اصبح غريبا في بلد مسلم من دون مسلمين

لااضن انهم سيسكبون الخمر في الشوارع بل سيشربونها :p
Derek Baldwin
Jul 28, 2011 Derek Baldwin rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
A kind of pastiche/homage to Orwell's 1984. It doesn't bear the comparison too well but it's an interesting book. However I think that the thrust of Burgess's satire was already made far more potently in A Clockwork Orange and this doesn't add all that much.
Brent Legault
May 10, 2012 Brent Legault rated it did not like it
A sloppily-written, half-assed, woefully-conceived agenda piece. Burgess should have been publicly shamed for writing such vomit. And maybe he would have been, had he but lifted his nose out of his typewriter.
Ahmed Diab
Jun 23, 2013 Ahmed Diab rated it liked it
قرأت النسخة العربية منه بعنوان المسلمون قادمون لانتونى بيرجس كتاب جيد
Bluecityladyy
Jun 08, 2013 Bluecityladyy rated it did not like it
If you have a bookshelf of books to read, put this one on the bottom shelf.
Anna
First half of the book is a criticism of Orwell's 1984, well written and interesting, especially considering the time Burgess published this book (1978). Burgess' novel is instantly chillingly prophetic "no God but Allah" protests, and later on images of diseased lungs printed on cigarette packets because words weren't a strong enough deterrent. The future society of Britain run not by Government, but by Trade unionists made an interesting concept. I enjoyed the development of the language, and ...more
Adam Stone
Apr 06, 2011 Adam Stone rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi
Fascinating read. Recommended.
Ivana
Sep 22, 2013 Ivana added it
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The work of a pure genius.
Urh
Dec 21, 2014 Urh rated it it was amazing
Prvi del je intervju, poln tez in premišljanj o Orwellovem delu. To ni knjiga, ki bi imela samostojno vizijo prihodnosti, ampak je v celoti kritika neke vizije, ki jo spoštuje, a se ji ne zdi toliko verjetna kot bi lahko bila. Še več, trdi, da je v bistvu posledica neke mikrodrame bombandiranega Londona.
V nadomestek sledi drugi del knjige, ki je roman, pravi pravcati distopičen roman, kjer veljajo popolnoma drugačni postopki in pristopi do zunanje družbe, a so pojavi izvirnega 1984 jasno razvid
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Knjigoholičarka
Burgess-ova "1985" sastoji se iz dva dela: analitičke studije o Orvelovoj "1984" i Bardžisove novele o distopijskoj viziji godeine 1985-te.

Sam analitički deo mi se dopao, iako se sa pojedinim Burgess-ovim stavovima baš i ne slažem. Uprkos tome, neki njegovi zaključci su naprosto sjajni, dok pojedini teraju na razmišljanje. A svako razmišljanje je, složićete se, korisno. Takođe, u ovom delu tada je i analiza društvenih događanja i previranja U Britaniji tokom četrdesetih godina, kao i povodi i i
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Surreysmum
May 24, 2010 Surreysmum rated it liked it
[These notes were made in 1985:]. The first half of this volume is an interesting, occasionally incisive, albeit somewhat fragmented analysis of Orwell's 1984. It also serves, of course, as an indirect introduction of Burgess's own bleak novel, which forms the second half of the book. Burgess, whose views occasionally spill too far to the right for my tastes, premises that it is not a totalitarian state but unionism taken to its extreme which deprives the individual of his liberties, and sometim ...more
gauldy
Feb 04, 2013 gauldy rated it liked it
Kniha se symbolickým názvem od autora geniálního Mechanického pomeranče, která už až tak jedinečná není. A vlastně je to ironie, protože Burgess s odstupem času mluví zrovna o Pomeranči jako o laciné knížce.

Burgessova kniha se dělí do dvou částí - dalo by se prakticky říct na 1984 a 1985.
První polovina je odbornou statí pojednávající o nejslavnějším díle George Orwella, které nese stejný název. Dozvíme se, co geniálního Brita vedlo k napsání své dystopické vize, jakou má spojitost s poválečným
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Ahmed Hassan
Nov 29, 2015 Ahmed Hassan rated it did not like it
مفروض ان انتوني بيرجس بيسلخ جورج اورويل ووصل ان 1984 مش رواية وفنيا سيئة
قوم ايه بقي جا ب الرواية اللي مش سيئة عشان يفرجنا
الناشر في النسخة اللي بقراها بيقول ان ليه الرواية دي مخدتش حظها من الإهتمام لدي القارئ العربي المسلم ؟ها ليه ؟؟
مهو عشان ام الضحالة والسخافة اللي في الرواية دي
عايز يعمل دستوبيا زي دستوبيا اورويل وفي نفس الوقت يشير لزيادة نفوذ المسلمين في العالم لسيطرتهم علي البترول
وفعلا مش عشان بيكلم علي المسلمين ...مش عنصرية بجد انما فنيا رواية سخيفة وضحلة
Phil
Oct 05, 2015 Phil rated it it was amazing
I was given a lend of this from one of the most quirky of my college lectures.

I found this to be one of the most interesting explorations of a possible future that I have ever read. I think it gave me a really good insight in to the bones of 1984 and what did and did not work in the masterpiece. There are several images in this book that have been in my head for almost an entire decade.

The book is in two sections, an essay discussing the key points and a long short story discussing a future more
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nesam
Nov 02, 2014 nesam rated it it was amazing
by far my favorite book ever, simply.
the first half being a dissection of 1984 as well as Burgess drifting into other topics like A Clockwork Orange.
second half being a fantastic novel and the best ending i've ever read in a book

also this book contains a brilliant quote 'What one chooses to do in captivity is the true test of how free one is' sorry if i missed a word in there. but all together an amazing story and a great book
Latoya Faraday
"... Советское государство желало переделать человека, и, зная русских, можно только посочувствовать. Павлов презирал безумную, неряшливую, романтическую, недисциплинированную, неэффективную, анархистскую русскую душу и одновременно восхищался холодным благоразумием англосаксов. Ленин тоже ее презирал, но она по-прежнему существует. Сталкиваясь с ленью официантов в советских ресторанах (иногда проходит три часа с приема заказа до его выполнения), с маниакальной депрессией советских таксистов, с ...more
Mark D
Jan 02, 2015 Mark D rated it really liked it
Shelves: dissertation
A surprising discovery after doing research into Nineteen Eighty-Four and the twentieth century utopian/dytopian novel. Anthony Burgess: not just A Clockwork Orange. I want to read more from him after this.
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Anthony Burgess was a British novelist, critic and composer. He was also a librettist, poet, playwright, screenwriter, essayist, travel writer, broadcaster, translator, linguist and educationalist. Born in Manchester, he lived for long periods in Southeast Asia, the USA and Mediterranean Europe as well as in England. His fiction includes the Malayan trilogy (The Long Day Wanes) on the dying days o ...more
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“As for the new world war that's waiting in the womb of time, a healthily developed foetus, who can say what will spark it, how destructive it will be? We've already played at this war in film and fiction, indicating that there's a part of us that desperately wants it. What nonsense writers and filmmakers talk when they say that their terrible visions are meant as a warning. [...] It's sheer wish fulfillment. War... is a culture pattern. It's a legitimate mode of cultural transmission....” 2 likes
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