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V.
Having just been released from the Navy, Benny Profane is content to lead a slothful existence with his friends, where the only real ambition is to perfect the art of "schlemihlhood," or being a dupe, and where "responsibility" is a dirty word. Among his pals--called the Whole Sick Crew--is Slab, an artist who can't seem to paint anything other than cheese danishes. But Pr...more
Mass Market Paperback, 640 pages
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(first published 1963)
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I propose that the titular "V." is neither a person nor a place but a preposition.
What, really, is more personal than a first novel? It's that all-or-nothing, balls-to-the-wall debut effort that can either send a fledgling writer plummeting to dream-shattering depths with an effort that falls flat for any number of reasons or it can be the inaugural celebration all starry-eyed young scribes dare to hope for, that which heralds a staggering new talent to a canon populated by the many great wordsl...more
What, really, is more personal than a first novel? It's that all-or-nothing, balls-to-the-wall debut effort that can either send a fledgling writer plummeting to dream-shattering depths with an effort that falls flat for any number of reasons or it can be the inaugural celebration all starry-eyed young scribes dare to hope for, that which heralds a staggering new talent to a canon populated by the many great wordsl...more
If V. bears the mark of the debut novelist at all, it's only in palimpsest, lying shadowy beneath winding passages of testosterone-charged postmodernism, and remaining implicit in the Young Tom's eagerness to please his reader. Still, this is a big 'if' we're dealing with, because V. is a remarkable novel for anybody to have written let alone a twenty-six year old (twenty-six!), and if he hadn't grown the fuck up and written two tomes of mind-expanding and heart-stopping wonder then this would r...more
4.5/5
Knowledge is a funny business. Everyone pretends omniscience in the classroom, but god forbid you spout off like an intellectual outside of it. And then you have the subculture of people making an effort to read Pynchon in public, and the other subcultures that amuse themselves at their expense. The verdict seems to be know it all, but please, spare us from your efforts to prove it.
I'd sell my soul to write like this at the age of six and twenty. There, I admitted to lack of know-how when i...more
Knowledge is a funny business. Everyone pretends omniscience in the classroom, but god forbid you spout off like an intellectual outside of it. And then you have the subculture of people making an effort to read Pynchon in public, and the other subcultures that amuse themselves at their expense. The verdict seems to be know it all, but please, spare us from your efforts to prove it.
I'd sell my soul to write like this at the age of six and twenty. There, I admitted to lack of know-how when i...more
Reading Thomas Pynchon's first novel is like plunging head first into a room with very little light. As the novel progresses, Pynchon regulates that light sometimes letting the reader see very clearly, narratively speaking, and other times enveloping the reader into near darkness.
The two main characters are discharged Naval officer Benny Profane the self-described "schlemiel" and Stencil, the hunter of the elusive woman/idea known only as V. Though not exact opposites, their destinies do not int...more
The two main characters are discharged Naval officer Benny Profane the self-described "schlemiel" and Stencil, the hunter of the elusive woman/idea known only as V. Though not exact opposites, their destinies do not int...more
Oct 28, 2010
Mariel
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
yesterday didn't know either
Recommended to Mariel by:
tomorrow never knows
I'm suffering from a painfully drawn out flu so I feel bad enough already. It can't be made worse by trying to review V. on gr. (If I wanna hit my head in frustration, well, it already hurts plentiful.)
V. was my first Thomas Pynchon. I chose it because it was cheapest (used). I like discounts. The notes in the margins for a college paper were fun too. I'm proud of my mercenary side. Now the self-congratulations end and I'll wrestle my mind and alligators in those mental gutters to convey why thi...more
V. was my first Thomas Pynchon. I chose it because it was cheapest (used). I like discounts. The notes in the margins for a college paper were fun too. I'm proud of my mercenary side. Now the self-congratulations end and I'll wrestle my mind and alligators in those mental gutters to convey why thi...more
Nov 25, 2008
Nate D
rated it
5 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Schlemiels, adventurers, foreign agents
Recommended to Nate D by:
Jeff Geisinger
What to say of Pynchon's half-century spanning epic?
Like Gravity's Rainbow, Pynchon's first novel (published, I think, at an astonishing age 26) is concerned with questions of life and death, here both at the internal, personal scale of our relations to people, things, and the outer world, and on a broad international scale of war, colonialism, and political intrigue. Linking the two, Herbert Stencil, adventurer and obsessed historian, tracking the intertwined history of his British foreign off...more
Like Gravity's Rainbow, Pynchon's first novel (published, I think, at an astonishing age 26) is concerned with questions of life and death, here both at the internal, personal scale of our relations to people, things, and the outer world, and on a broad international scale of war, colonialism, and political intrigue. Linking the two, Herbert Stencil, adventurer and obsessed historian, tracking the intertwined history of his British foreign off...more
I've been meaning to tackle Pynchon for some years now, because everything I'd read about him made it seem like his books would be right up my alley.
I should have known, however, not to start reading him now, when I'm crazy-busy with school and work. Pynchon is famously difficult and dense, and I just don't have the time to devote to serious reading these days. I kept telling myself, "After summer term finishes up, then we can get into some more meaty novels."
But I went to the library last week,...more
I should have known, however, not to start reading him now, when I'm crazy-busy with school and work. Pynchon is famously difficult and dense, and I just don't have the time to devote to serious reading these days. I kept telling myself, "After summer term finishes up, then we can get into some more meaty novels."
But I went to the library last week,...more
May 18, 2013
Mk Tantum
rated it
2 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
lovers of Thomas Pynchon and those who adore reading with a companion.
From this book I learned that:
a) Thomas Pynchon may be the smartest man alive.
b) Pynchon's vocabulary is one of the most extensive I've ever come across.
c) Reading Pynchon is tedious and often unpleasant.
Even with the companion and a book discussion group, reading this novel was like wading through a bog. Every time I grasped the plot, I'd lose track of Pynchon's message, and every time I caught a glimpse of the message, I lost the plot.
No wonder the man's a recluse. Talking to him must be like...more
a) Thomas Pynchon may be the smartest man alive.
b) Pynchon's vocabulary is one of the most extensive I've ever come across.
c) Reading Pynchon is tedious and often unpleasant.
Even with the companion and a book discussion group, reading this novel was like wading through a bog. Every time I grasped the plot, I'd lose track of Pynchon's message, and every time I caught a glimpse of the message, I lost the plot.
No wonder the man's a recluse. Talking to him must be like...more
"A phrase (it often happened when he was exhausted) kept cycling round and round, preconsciously, just under the threshold of lip and tongue movement: "Events seem to be ordered into an ominous logic." It repeated itself automatically and Stencil improved on it each time, placing emphasis on different words-"events seem"; "seem to be ordered"; "ominous logic"-pronouncing them differently, changing the "tone of voice" from sepulchral to jaunty: round and round and round. Events seem to ordered in...more
Friday in the A.M. while on the Trolley, a little before nine, before I would be delivering packages all day downtown, I noticed a woman doing the New York Times Cross Word Puzzle, And I thought Thomas Pynchon does crossword puzzles in the time it takes him to brush his teeth, later I was going to pick up “Against The Day” between deliveries, so Pynchon was one my mind. His vocabulary and knowledge is so vast. Pynchon’s first novel is “V.” and it seems written by someone late in his writing care...more
I tried, lawd knows I tried.
“It is something less than heaven
To be quoted Thesis 1.7
Every time I make an advance;
If the world is all that the case is
That’s a pretty discouraging basis
On which to pursue
Any sort of romance.
I’ve got a proposition for you;
Logical, positive and brief.
And at least it could serve as a kind of comic relief:
[Refrain]
Let P equal me,
With my heart in command;
Let Q equal you
With Tractatus in hand;
And R could stand for a lifetime of love,
Filled with music to fondle and purr t...more
“It is something less than heaven
To be quoted Thesis 1.7
Every time I make an advance;
If the world is all that the case is
That’s a pretty discouraging basis
On which to pursue
Any sort of romance.
I’ve got a proposition for you;
Logical, positive and brief.
And at least it could serve as a kind of comic relief:
[Refrain]
Let P equal me,
With my heart in command;
Let Q equal you
With Tractatus in hand;
And R could stand for a lifetime of love,
Filled with music to fondle and purr t...more
I think the only thing I'd say about this book that hasn't been said already (at least that I've seen) is that Pynchon's narrative style adds and drops characters like a c-average senior drops and adds classes--frequently.
There's something very appealing about this attitude in a novel. We are, according to P, moving from the animate to the inanimate, so I suppose the fact that characters serve only a fleeting function is to be expected. The minor members of the Whole Sick Crew were engaging, qui...more
There's something very appealing about this attitude in a novel. We are, according to P, moving from the animate to the inanimate, so I suppose the fact that characters serve only a fleeting function is to be expected. The minor members of the Whole Sick Crew were engaging, qui...more
EDIT: I give up again. 'V' is a travesty of juvenile puns, unconvincing dialogue, and (my own pet peeve) characters with impossibly trite names. Seriously, what gives?
EDIT: I decided to try reading it again.
have you ever had the feeling that an author is simply trying to bludgeon you over the head with abstruseness? have you ever read one of those books that all of the "serious readers" swear is an infallible masterpiece, despite its meat-fisted appropriation of the stylistic innovations of Eli...more
EDIT: I decided to try reading it again.
have you ever had the feeling that an author is simply trying to bludgeon you over the head with abstruseness? have you ever read one of those books that all of the "serious readers" swear is an infallible masterpiece, despite its meat-fisted appropriation of the stylistic innovations of Eli...more
V. is like some weird, half dreamed dispatch from a mind that is hermetically sealed off from the world. It's a book that seems to revolve more around a specific set of images and motifs, clocks, yo-yo's inanimate objects, Malta, espionage, etc. than around a set of characters, though the characters are often compelling and weirdly poetic in their own ways. It's hard to believe that this book is almost 50 years old. The way it tries to tie together so many odd, all but forgotten historical threa...more
Finals this week, so review will be a bit delayed. But it should be a good one. Lots to talk about; lots to chew on.
I will be taking notes a la Ian Graye, if you'd like to follow along.
http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/2...
I will be taking notes a la Ian Graye, if you'd like to follow along.
http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/2...
'The experience, the experience. Haven't you learned?' Profane didn't have to think long. 'No,' he said, 'offhand I'd say I haven't learned a goddamn thing.'"
Moral of the story: our entire trajectory, as animate humans, consists of nothing more than an inevitable progression from being animate to being inanimate. What? You don't find solace in this point? It makes you feel a bit uneasy, and, dare I say, paranoid? Welcome to Thomas Pynchon's world.
"V." is my favorite Pynchon novel--quite the boa...more
Moral of the story: our entire trajectory, as animate humans, consists of nothing more than an inevitable progression from being animate to being inanimate. What? You don't find solace in this point? It makes you feel a bit uneasy, and, dare I say, paranoid? Welcome to Thomas Pynchon's world.
"V." is my favorite Pynchon novel--quite the boa...more
May 29, 2007
Bill
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
newcomers to Pynchon
Shelves:
novels
Between the extended novella
The Crying of Lot 49
and the sprawling behemoth
Gravity's Rainbow
lies V, a book that's neither long nor particularly dense but still finds space for Pynchon's trademark historical digressions and lyrical flights of fancy. Pynchon's first novel is a thrilling mish-mash of Baedeker-Guide colonial intrigue, 1950s bohemia, and a hilarious set piece about alligators in the sewers of New York, all held together by an enigmatic meta-textual thread that is one of the mo...more
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He started telling her about Vheissu. How it was reached, on camel-back over a vast tundra, past the dolmens and temples of dead cities; finally to the banks of a broad river which never sees the sun, so thickly roofed is it with foliage. The river is traveled in long teak boats which are carved like dragons and paddled by brown men whose language is unknown to all but themselves. In eight days' time there is a portage over a neck of treacherous swampland to a green lake, and across the lake ris...more
a story split in two, converging to a sharp, crisp point. one story, that of a group of go-nowheres, is fun and light, and probably a more accurate and unforgiving portrait of the beats than is present in their own work. the other alternating half are Stencil's tales of potentialities and impressions concerning espionage in various exotic locales earlier in the century, all tied around the enigma of the entity V.
This book won me over completely. Its unhinged prose captures the Twentieth Century in its entirety better than anything I have ever encountered - and it was written barely halfway through the century! Pynchon has a reputation for being difficult, and this book is certainly no exception, but if you lean back in your seat, trust him, and let him take the reins, you won't find it difficult at all. I find that you have to read Pynchon with a kind of soft focus, unclenching certain parts of your min...more
Highly recommended, but be careful, this is a great and original brain at work, so don't be surprised if you're not getting everything.
"The novel eschews continuity, muddles the relationship between cause and effect, and calls very much into question the tendency to seek evidence of the operation of reason in the events out of which historical accounts are fabricated." [Clark]
One of the reasons is Pynchon was an engineering physics student first at Cornell, before getting into Navy and English,...more
"The novel eschews continuity, muddles the relationship between cause and effect, and calls very much into question the tendency to seek evidence of the operation of reason in the events out of which historical accounts are fabricated." [Clark]
One of the reasons is Pynchon was an engineering physics student first at Cornell, before getting into Navy and English,...more
So, it took a great length of time to finish this book as I read it in two large blocks of time. I began in winter of 2011 and read the first 200 pages. I was engrossed by the Benny Profane plots and lost when it came to the Stencil chapters. My imagination was activated but at some point I burned out on it.
I realize I was making it quite difficult for myself by trying to read it as I would read any book, which is to try to fully understand what is going on at every point, to know the precise m...more
I realize I was making it quite difficult for myself by trying to read it as I would read any book, which is to try to fully understand what is going on at every point, to know the precise m...more
I was utterly confused and I LOVED it. Of all the books that I've read, this was one of the select few that had me biting my fingernails on one hand, as I cradled its spine with my other. What had me so nervous was not the suspense in the plot, or a concern for the characters, but the thought, "Can he keep this up? Can he write 600 pages of prose that is so stupefyingly beautiful, so unctuous, so enveloping?" The answer is yes, that Pynchon's style continued to deliver on the promises made in th...more
This very complicated novel was introduced to me in a literature class in the mid-1970s. I’m not sure I managed to read it all then, because despite an amusing bar brawl at the outset and some truly bizarre scenarios it’s mostly tough going. However, my love for puzzling out complicated plots led me back to it later. At that point I was a technical writer for a defense contractor, which made parts of the story more relevant: Pynchon had also been a tech writer for a defense contractor, and his p...more
Jun 02, 2008
Stephanie A. Higa
rated it
5 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
everyone who thought The Crying of Lot 49 should have been longer
Amazing, incredible book. Amazing, incredible writer. -1 for the two chapters I didn't like and for a few other sections that dragged on a bit longer than they could have. Otherwise: wow. Just wow. I still can't believe Thomas Pynchon wrote this when he was 26 or that this is his first novel. Off the charts imagination plus really exciting language. Pynchon's sentences are sometimes convoluted beyond belief, which is why he is rather difficult to read (I say "rather" because I've had much more t...more
Decided to give up.. Pynchon is simply too smart for me, it seems :D Not to mention, too random.. Even for me! And I adore randomness, but this is way too much. Dude is nuts, no other way to put it. No way can a sane (or drug free) person understand half of what the author is saying, and still have a basic grip on the plot's direction.. Honestly, I can go on and on about characters, their sudden appearance and even more sudden disappearance, utterly boring setting, plot that runs like a headless...more
In keeping with Pynchon's penchant for songs, I wrote one as the review for this book (and perhaps Pynchon in general). As I do whenever I come across songs in his books, you'll have to make up a melody and sing it yourself:
You don't come for the plot, cos its tied in a knot,
you don't come to escape, cos your mind will get raped,
[Refrain]:
but you do....
....come for....
.....the fun!!!!
There's a whole lotta fun, on-a every page,
songs and insights, Tommy earns his wage!
[Refrain]:
and your eyes....
.....more
You don't come for the plot, cos its tied in a knot,
you don't come to escape, cos your mind will get raped,
[Refrain]:
but you do....
....come for....
.....the fun!!!!
There's a whole lotta fun, on-a every page,
songs and insights, Tommy earns his wage!
[Refrain]:
and your eyes....
.....more
"I write poetry," she announced. They were at her place, a modest hotel near the great lift.
"Oh," said Profane.
"I am the twentieth century," she read. Profane rolled away and stared at the pattern in the rug.
***
Like that last reviewer below me, V. is also my favorite Pynchon novel. This isn't exactly any kind of definitive statement, as I've only started four (Lot 49, V., Vineland, Gravity's Rainbow) and finished two (Lot 49, V.). Even so, it's easily one of my top 5 favorite novels. Few other b...more
"Oh," said Profane.
"I am the twentieth century," she read. Profane rolled away and stared at the pattern in the rug.
***
Like that last reviewer below me, V. is also my favorite Pynchon novel. This isn't exactly any kind of definitive statement, as I've only started four (Lot 49, V., Vineland, Gravity's Rainbow) and finished two (Lot 49, V.). Even so, it's easily one of my top 5 favorite novels. Few other b...more
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Thomas Ruggles Pynchon, Jr. is an American writer based in New York City, noted for his dense and complex works of fiction. Hailing from Long Island, Pynchon spent two years in the United States Navy and earned an English degree from Cornell University. After publishing several short stories in the late 1950s and early 1960s, he began composing the novels for which he is best known today: V. (1963...more
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“I am the twentieth century. I am the ragtime and the tango; sans-serif, clean geometry. I am the virgin's-hair whip and the cunningly detailed shackles of decadent passion. I am every lonely railway station in every capital of Europe. I am the Street, the fanciless buildings of government. the cafe-dansant, the clockwork figure, the jazz saxophone, the tourist-lady's hairpiece, the fairy's rubber breasts, the travelling clock which always tells the wrong time and chimes in different keys. I am the dead palm tree, the Negro's dancing pumps, the dried fountain after tourist season. I am all the appurtenances of night.”
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