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Xenocide (Ender's Saga #4)
The war for survival of the planet Lusitania will be fought in the hearts of a child named Gloriously Bright.
On Lusitania, Ender found a world where humans and pequininos and the Hive Queen could all live together; where three very different intelligent species could find common ground at last. Or so he thought.
Lusitania also harbors the descolada, a virus that kills all h...more
On Lusitania, Ender found a world where humans and pequininos and the Hive Queen could all live together; where three very different intelligent species could find common ground at last. Or so he thought.
Lusitania also harbors the descolada, a virus that kills all h...more
Paperback, 592 pages
Published
August 15th 1992
by Tor Books
(first published 1991)
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Let me tell you the most beautiful story i know.
a man was given a dog, which he loved very much.
the dog went with him everywhere,
but the man could not teach it to do anything useful...
instead it regarded him with the same inscrutable expression.
"thats not a dog, its a wolf!" said the mans wife
"he alone is faithful to me" said the man
and his wife never discussed it with him again.
one day, the man took his dog with him onto his pr...more
a man was given a dog, which he loved very much.
the dog went with him everywhere,
but the man could not teach it to do anything useful...
instead it regarded him with the same inscrutable expression.
"thats not a dog, its a wolf!" said the mans wife
"he alone is faithful to me" said the man
and his wife never discussed it with him again.
one day, the man took his dog with him onto his pr...more
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This xkcd web comic makes for the best review of this book. http://xkcd.com/304/
I didn't hate it. The philosophy and science annoyingly reminded me of Tom Clancy's later stuff where he rambles on and on over minutia no one but him and his 7 true fans really enjoy. The rest of us start skimming hoping to find something to make continuing to read worth it. Only to depressingly read the last sentence wondering why successful authors stop using editors.
I didn't hate it. The philosophy and science annoyingly reminded me of Tom Clancy's later stuff where he rambles on and on over minutia no one but him and his 7 true fans really enjoy. The rest of us start skimming hoping to find something to make continuing to read worth it. Only to depressingly read the last sentence wondering why successful authors stop using editors.
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Had this been a stand alone novel, rather than a continuation of the Ender Wiggins series, it probably wouldn’t have irritated me so much. In the interview with the author at the end of the CD, he pretty much verifies what I thought throughout the whole novel. The premises of this book is one that he had first thought of as an independent story line, but since Ender Wiggins was a ready made hit, rolled it into the trilogy instead. With each subsequent book, Card looses a bit more of the initial ...more
This may be my favorite of the Ender series. The dynamic with all of the different forms of alien life and the debate about when and whether it is OK to destroy such life is facsinating to me. I think that part of the reason I enjoy science fiction so much is that, not only does it force me to use my brain, but it can address real life issues in a setting that, although comparable to real life, does not have quite the same affect on my while still making me think about real principles. I am n...more
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Xenocide picks up Ender's story on Lusitania. With a starship on the way to destroy the planet, Ender and his family race to find a cure for the descolada, a virus integral to the life cycle of the pequeninos, but lethal to humans. Jane, a sentient being who came to life as a result of the bugger's attempt to contact Ender through the fantasy computer game, may die as a result of her efforts to help Ender stop the destruction of Lusitania. A faction of the pequeninos decides they want to brin...more
Wow. It took me so long to finish this book after racing through the previous portion of this series. It's really too bad because Orson Scott Card's ideas are definitely worth exploring -- some of the most thought provoking and original of the ones that I have read in my limited science fiction repertoire. Card is truly one of the most brilliant writers I have had the pleasure of reading.
That said, certain portions of the book I just found to be tedious. I finally finished this only ...more
That said, certain portions of the book I just found to be tedious. I finally finished this only ...more
I adore the Ender series. This is really part one of a two book set in the series. On to the Children of the Mind next which will finish what was started in Xenocide. There are a lot of ideas in the story as everything related to the psychology and philosophy of prejudice is explored in a dramatic speculative fiction setting. Religion and politics, as well as basic species survival imperatives come into play throughout the complete Ender series. Generally the book is very realistic and true to h...more
Very good exploration of how others perceive your acts; you can actually save the world and be pegged a villan; but it helps the reader understand the self interest in demonizing others.
A weak 4* but deserves more than 3*. There were several disappointments in this book, but the main one is that so much of the book was spent on detailing the OCD actions of the 'godspoken', that the author decided to write a part 2 Children of the Mind rather than dealing now with resolving the problems of Jane's survival and the splintering of Ender's adopted family - in fact, those problems just kept getting bigger! And I'm not sure i'm optimistic enough to want to read the 4th book of what sh...more
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I began reading this series because my boyfriend said my philosophy of human connection resembles Card's philotes. I enjoyed Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, but I was impatiently waiting for philotic connections to be described. Xenocide finally delivered, and I will never forget the AHA! moment when I read that passage.
Xenocide's fully-developed characters seem real because they act in response to deeply-felt emotions. In particular, I was surprised by Card's sensitivity toward Novinha....more
Xenocide's fully-developed characters seem real because they act in response to deeply-felt emotions. In particular, I was surprised by Card's sensitivity toward Novinha....more
A wealth of emotional, scientific and philosophical conflict: Third in Orson Scott Card's "Ender" cycle, "Xenocide" charts the events on the planet of Lusitania, home to all three sentient species in existence, two of which are not represented anywhere else in the universe. All living things on Lusitania are subject to a virus, the Descolada, which attacks and modifies the genetic information of the host and is evolving rapidly to the extend that combating it requires constan...more
"So let me tell you what I think about gods. I think a real god is not going to be so scared or angry that he tries to keep other people down . . . A real god doesn’t care about control. A real god already has control of everything that needs controlling. Real gods would want to teach you how to be just like them."
The third part of the Ender Quartet, the sequel to Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, which takes place on the Brazilian colony of Lusitania -- the habitat ...more
The third part of the Ender Quartet, the sequel to Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead, which takes place on the Brazilian colony of Lusitania -- the habitat ...more
The Congress fleet is on its way to destroy Lusitania. Their order was already sent to the fleet to disintegrate the planet. That's not just because of the rebellion of the Lusitanian humans, who have formed a community with the other species. It's also because the virus that transformed the biosphere of the planet will probably be fatal to all life forms in the Hundred Worlds.
Then the fleet disappears. The search of a brilliant girl on the planet Path for the missing fleet leads to...more
Then the fleet disappears. The search of a brilliant girl on the planet Path for the missing fleet leads to...more
The first thing I noticed about Xenocide, book three in the series, is that it was much longer than the first two. Almost twice as long actually. As a testament to how good it was, it didn’t take me much longer to read.
At the beginning of Xenocide we are introduced to another planet, a colony called Path. Path is a world developed from Chinese culture. Some citizens of path, when they are children, show the traits of being Godspoken; the need to clean their hands until they bleed, othe...more
At the beginning of Xenocide we are introduced to another planet, a colony called Path. Path is a world developed from Chinese culture. Some citizens of path, when they are children, show the traits of being Godspoken; the need to clean their hands until they bleed, othe...more
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A great almost-ending to the Ender Wiggins series (Ender's Game & Speaker for the Dead). I really thought that this book would tie everything up in the Ender Series, but at it's end, there are still some very big events that are as-yet incomplete at the end of this novel (namely, the survival/decimation of Lusitania and it's dependent life-forms when the Fleet arrives).
That disappointment aside, this is yet another GREAT novel from Mr. Card! I marvel at how ...more
A great almost-ending to the Ender Wiggins series (Ender's Game & Speaker for the Dead). I really thought that this book would tie everything up in the Ender Series, but at it's end, there are still some very big events that are as-yet incomplete at the end of this novel (namely, the survival/decimation of Lusitania and it's dependent life-forms when the Fleet arrives).
That disappointment aside, this is yet another GREAT novel from Mr. Card! I marvel at how ...more
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Part three of the Ender series and my least favorite by a large margin. It seemed to me like it really suffered from lack of a good, stern editor. It was too long (and I hear that part IV, Children of the Mind, was actually part of Xenocide, but they split it into two books, and that it rehashes many of the discussions in the earlier books--good lord). Some of the philosophical arguments were incredibly tedious (do we have free will? what, exactly, are you?)--they were like being stuck in a room...more
Much like Speaker for the Dead, I was excited to read more about Ender, but this book left me feeling slightly disappointed. I still tore through it, wondering what the heck Orson Scott Card was going to come up with next, and I certainly have to say I couldn't see any of it coming beforehand. What I didn't like about this book is that while Speaker for the Dead was starting to get complex, this book got completely out of hand.
In my opinion, there were far too many characters accompan...more
In my opinion, there were far too many characters accompan...more
The first book in this series was outstanding! Card does a great job weaving philosophy and psychology into a story about a boy who saves the world. But, what is one of his greatest assets in the first book quickly becomes the worst problem in this third book.
Instead of being succinct, everything is overkill. Instead of just having a handful of main characters now, we're following all of Ender's adoptive family, a Chinese descendent (and her father and her servant), a sentient com...more
Instead of being succinct, everything is overkill. Instead of just having a handful of main characters now, we're following all of Ender's adoptive family, a Chinese descendent (and her father and her servant), a sentient com...more
From the looks of it many didn't really have the patience to delve into the deep exposition of the story, because there is so much dialogue and explanation. It is surely a psychological exercise in the best way possible. It brings up almost every facet of the human experience, the life experience of any sentient thing, the existence of god and quantum physics, and manages to give proper respect to all of them without giving up the author's own actual postion overtly.
I mean -- I thi...more
I mean -- I thi...more
Technically this is the second sequel to Ender’s Game, but in actuality Ender’s Game is pretty much a singleton with a spin-off. Xenocide picks up directly where Speaker for the Dead left off. The Lusitania fleet is still bearing down on our heroes, and the question of how to ensure the survival of Pequeninos, Buggers and humans dominates the book. The secondary plot on the planet Path could have been skipped altogether from a story point of view, but psychology is never boring with Card, and so...more
Short Review: I really liked the book. I have only a small reason for not making it five stars, and that's because of the way my mind is made. It's very philosophical, so be warned, but I enjoyed those parts most.
Longer Review: The only reason XENOCIDE doesn't have five stars is because THE ENDER SAGA, aside from ENDER'S GAME, isn't as good as Bean's story. To me. I've recently discovered that a HINT of politics in a book makes me wild to read it. It's possible that THE ENDER SA...more
Longer Review: The only reason XENOCIDE doesn't have five stars is because THE ENDER SAGA, aside from ENDER'S GAME, isn't as good as Bean's story. To me. I've recently discovered that a HINT of politics in a book makes me wild to read it. It's possible that THE ENDER SA...more
Sometimes I can be embarrassed to admit that I'm reading a fiction book, especially one that is mostly popular among teenagers, and ESPECIALLY one that is a 600 page science fiction book in the middle of a series. They just don't seem like appropriate reading material fpr intellectually well-rounded people.
But I have to say that this series--and Xenocide in particular--would be appropriate for those who are looking for a good discussion of ethics and human nature.
Humanity bel...more
But I have to say that this series--and Xenocide in particular--would be appropriate for those who are looking for a good discussion of ethics and human nature.
Humanity bel...more
What if a whole new species was found living on a completely different planet? In the book Xenocide by Orson Scott Card, there is a planet called Lusitania that holds a human colony, but humans aren’t the only creatures that live on this planet. There is a native species, known as pequininos that thrive there as well. They are highly intelligent, and learn human languages very quickly. A virus that is fatal to the humans happens to be the virus that the pequininos need to survive. The numbe...more
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‘I wasn’t sure if heroes still existed in the human race.’
In this, the third novel in the Ender series, the world of Lusitania is under threat. The planet is in rebellion, and the Starways Congress fears that if the descolada virus escapes from Lusitania all humanity will be at risk. The descolada virus kills all humans with which it comes into contact but the pequeninos (piggies) require it for the third stage of their life cycle. The human colonists on Lusitania eat food laced ...more
In this, the third novel in the Ender series, the world of Lusitania is under threat. The planet is in rebellion, and the Starways Congress fears that if the descolada virus escapes from Lusitania all humanity will be at risk. The descolada virus kills all humans with which it comes into contact but the pequeninos (piggies) require it for the third stage of their life cycle. The human colonists on Lusitania eat food laced ...more
Yes, this novel is at times wordy and more repetitive than its predecessors. No, it does not properly resolve the plots, the second half of this book having been split into its successor, Children of the Mind. Yet, this novel does do some things very well.
Personally, from the very first chapter, I questioned my ability to finish the novel. This was not from any fault of Card's, but because I immediate recognized the OCD in the characters. I made this realization because it was someth...more
Personally, from the very first chapter, I questioned my ability to finish the novel. This was not from any fault of Card's, but because I immediate recognized the OCD in the characters. I made this realization because it was someth...more
I liked this book. It brought up some of the ethical dilemas that Card is so famous for exploring. I give him a lot of credit in both his writing skill and intelligence. It's a pretty gutsy move to write about of species of genius people and have to write dialogue for all of the major characters. He pulls it off with believablity. The arguments that the Godspoken and the children of Novina were opposing and yet each well thought out. It was as if he could make one completely sound point and then...more
This was a very weakly written book. OSC has way too much dialogue without purpose, and weak characters, which is a sad way for Ender to have developed from the first book, Ideas and discussions and plot all meander throughout the novel, then OSC tries to wrap it up with a ridiculous deus ex machina that was frustrating to be asked to believe in. OSC's concept of gaiaology was another point of frustration. If you cannot include decent science in science fiction on a consistent basis, then do...more
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Orson Scott Card is the author of the novels Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker for the Dead, which are widely read by adults and younger readers, and are increasingly used in schools.
Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy ser...more
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