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The Illuminatus! Trilogy: The Eye in the Pyramid/The Golden Apple/Leviathan (Illuminatus! #1-3)
It was a deadly mistake. Joseph Malik, editor of a radical magazine, had snooped into rumors about an ancient secret society that was still alive and kicking. Now his offices have been bombed, he's missing, and the case has landed in the lap of a tough, cynical, streetwise New York detective. Saul Goodman knows he's stumbled onto something big-but even he can't guess how f...more
Paperback, Trade Paperback, 805 pages
Published
December 1st 1983
by Dell
(first published 1975)
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Aug 26, 2007
Seth
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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Recommends it for:
Teenagers, fuddy-duddy geeks, SF fans
I gave this book 5 stars.
- As science fiction it would get 2
- As philosophy it would get 1 (the world-view it argues for is much better discussed in other books--some of them even by RAW)
- As humor it would get 3. Maybe 4 on a good day
- As conspiracy theory it would get 4
- As research it doesn't even rate 1
- As a good guide to things to research for yourself, it's a solid 4 (great game: open to a random page and pick 5 things to look up in a library)
But it crosses the line on two things:
*...more
- As science fiction it would get 2
- As philosophy it would get 1 (the world-view it argues for is much better discussed in other books--some of them even by RAW)
- As humor it would get 3. Maybe 4 on a good day
- As conspiracy theory it would get 4
- As research it doesn't even rate 1
- As a good guide to things to research for yourself, it's a solid 4 (great game: open to a random page and pick 5 things to look up in a library)
But it crosses the line on two things:
*...more
A sprawling, many-faceted, satirical series, Illuminatus! is difficult to rate and more difficult to review. There are so many aspects which one could address, so many points of divergence, ideas, philosophies, and influences, but at it's heart, it's a rollicking adventure story that, despite it's many political and social themes, rarely takes itself too seriously.
I can certainly say I liked it, but it's hard to say how much. Some parts were better than others, but there are many parts to be con...more
I can certainly say I liked it, but it's hard to say how much. Some parts were better than others, but there are many parts to be con...more
I'm re-reading this now, and felt I should clarify my position on this book, as I often list it as one of my favorites.
High Literature this is not. It is campy sci-fi, saturated with gratuitous sex scenes, psychedelia, conspiracy theories, counterculture etc. When I recommend this book, it's usually with the caveat that the authors are sort of bumbling about and finding their feet for the first 80 or so pages.
When it finally does start moving along, the reader finds his- or her-self bombarded wi...more
High Literature this is not. It is campy sci-fi, saturated with gratuitous sex scenes, psychedelia, conspiracy theories, counterculture etc. When I recommend this book, it's usually with the caveat that the authors are sort of bumbling about and finding their feet for the first 80 or so pages.
When it finally does start moving along, the reader finds his- or her-self bombarded wi...more
I like this book because it takes every conspiracy theory that existed prior to 1975 and weaves them into a grand narrative of the 'haves' pulling a fast one on the 'have nots' since before the beginning of recorded human history. Also, similar to William S. Burroughs, I think you have to examine RAW's work in the context of him being such a defining force in the American underground culture. Having said this, I do have one major complaint about this work. This is one of those books that has too...more
Honestly, the bury-the-needle rating on this is primarly from nostalgia and gratitude. The thing is, the book saved my soul. I say this because I read the Illuminatus! trilogy the very first thing after stumbling into reading Ayn Rand's Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged in high school, as a fairly bright and moderately-creative geek, which qualities looked even more exaggerated by relative comparison to a very small class size. That's like getting injected with concentrated live-culture viruses af...more
I have given this book away so many times now. It's the only way I can repay the favor Jayson did me when he initially loaned it to me. This book literally changed my life, and I can only believe for the better.
Countless bizarre ideas and ideologies are brought together in a raucous, chaotic storyline spun through three volumes. Discordianism, Kabbalah, the Church of the Sub-Genius, elaborate retellings of conspiracy theory and countless other bizarre and interesting ideological landscapes get m...more
Countless bizarre ideas and ideologies are brought together in a raucous, chaotic storyline spun through three volumes. Discordianism, Kabbalah, the Church of the Sub-Genius, elaborate retellings of conspiracy theory and countless other bizarre and interesting ideological landscapes get m...more
I came across this book in my local libraries science fiction section and aware of its reputation i decided to check it out. In hindsight that was not a wise idea, while the first book "The Eye In The Pyramid" was fairly interesting with nods to cultural figures such as William Burroughs and Alesiter Crowley by the time i got half way through "The Golden Apple" i was tired with the lack of direction and character development which in the end resulted in it giving up on this book.
The Trilogy also...more
The Trilogy also...more
In a nutshell: sex, drugs, and conspiracies.
Ridiculously surreal, jumping from one POV to another often and without warning (and sometimes mid-sentence, I think - it's been a while), as well as bouncing between pre-history and the near future and various points in between. Not even the characters really know who/where/when they are, half the time. Most of it seems like abject silliness, until you come across something, such as a prediction or comment about government and/or society, that makes j...more
Ridiculously surreal, jumping from one POV to another often and without warning (and sometimes mid-sentence, I think - it's been a while), as well as bouncing between pre-history and the near future and various points in between. Not even the characters really know who/where/when they are, half the time. Most of it seems like abject silliness, until you come across something, such as a prediction or comment about government and/or society, that makes j...more
On one hand, I really dug this series the first time I read it. I've always been a fan of occult conspiracy, and lots of crazy stuff happens, and it IS pretty mind-bending.
On the other hand, when I tried re-reading the series about ten years later, I realised that it's pretty puerile. I probably don't do enough drugs to truly appreciate it.
fnord.
On the other hand, when I tried re-reading the series about ten years later, I realised that it's pretty puerile. I probably don't do enough drugs to truly appreciate it.
fnord.
Stream of consciousness style from hell! More decipherable than Finnegan's Wake, but how much does that really say?? Keeps switching tense, point-of-view, moves between first person perspective of multiple and conflicting characters over space and time. A real mind fuck and I'm only about 100 pages in... Still trying though. Fascinating actual historical stuff and actual conspiracy theory quoted documentation dating back centuries. The first fictional work, of which I'm aware any way, to tackle...more
On p. 650 of 800 but the last 70 are just appendices and I feel like writing a review now, so . . .
I've been reading this very slowly over the course of many months, which I guess is a reflection of how little it has really engaged me. On the other hand, I feel no animosity towards it, and fully intend to finish it eventually. To my taste it is neither especially good nor especially bad; it is just a odd, underwhelming if inoffensive sort of book that seems to have been intended for an audience...more
I've been reading this very slowly over the course of many months, which I guess is a reflection of how little it has really engaged me. On the other hand, I feel no animosity towards it, and fully intend to finish it eventually. To my taste it is neither especially good nor especially bad; it is just a odd, underwhelming if inoffensive sort of book that seems to have been intended for an audience...more
May 16, 2013
Michael
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Hippies, Discordians, Young Men
Recommended to Michael by:
Steve Jackson
For me, this book was a moment of Awakening, and the changes I wrought in myself after first reading continue to reverberate today. I had been brought to it through playing the card game it inspired. A desire to Seek the Mysteries caused me to follow up on the "Bibliography" included with that game, and I picked up this book expecting a sort of "In Like Flint"-style spy thriller/parody that exploited theories of vast conspiratorial networks. What I found was an exploration of reality on various...more
If James Joyce was a one-man literary IRA, then Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea are the literary Al Qaeda. As these groups can be viewed as either terrorists or freedom fighters, depending on your point of view, so it is with this book.
As is probably not ironic for a book considered to be the holy grail of conspiracy theory, it's definitely not difficult to perceive the Illuminatus Trilogy as an act of intellectual terrorism. This is not an easy book to read. Time, location, perspective, an...more
As is probably not ironic for a book considered to be the holy grail of conspiracy theory, it's definitely not difficult to perceive the Illuminatus Trilogy as an act of intellectual terrorism. This is not an easy book to read. Time, location, perspective, an...more
The "Illuminatus" trilogy is marvelous, compelling and often hilarious. Authors Shea and Wilson weave a complex, meandering tale around the Illuminati, a group that even establishment historians acknowledge existed. The difference here is that, like many conspiracy theorists, the authors propose that the Illuminati never disbanded and continue to run the world behind the scenes.
Reading author Robert Anton Wilson's susequent works, some inspired by his friendship with LSD guru and rumored CIA ope...more
Reading author Robert Anton Wilson's susequent works, some inspired by his friendship with LSD guru and rumored CIA ope...more
As I'm having trouble summarizing this book myself, I've decided to quote the meta-review of their book which the authors wrote into the novel:
"'It's a dreadfully long monster of a book,' Wildeblood says pettishly, 'and I certainly won't have time to read it, but I'm giving it a thorough skimming. The authors are utterly incompetent--no sense of style or structure at all. It starts out as a detective story, switches to science-fiction, then goes off into the supernatural, and is full of the most...more
"'It's a dreadfully long monster of a book,' Wildeblood says pettishly, 'and I certainly won't have time to read it, but I'm giving it a thorough skimming. The authors are utterly incompetent--no sense of style or structure at all. It starts out as a detective story, switches to science-fiction, then goes off into the supernatural, and is full of the most...more
This book was more confusing than my Neurobiology and Organic Chemistry textbooks put together. While many of the parts were entertaining reading, the book really reads like the authors were taking every single recreational drug possible as they were writing it, with its stream of consicousness, time-traveling, too-long paragraphs/monologues/acid trips/conversations only a pothead could pretend to follow with any comprehension. The conspiracy plots in the book might have more significance for so...more
Couldn't finish it. Didn't even finish the first book in the trilogy. Interesting. Ever-shifting in perspective like
Ulysses
, but Ulysses unlocalized. Instead of focusing on one person on one day in a very distinct place, it looks at a number of disparate people all over the world in places both real and imaginary, with no regard for chronology. Some fine writing in there, but the hyper-leaps from the JFK assassination to underwater battles over Atlantis to graphically-described sex rituals (s...more
The authors thought they were WAY more clever and intellectual than they really were. Mostly these books were pretentious and boring and a regurgitation of themes that had been explored numerous times in numerous other places. Not to mention the fact that the whole trilogy pretends to be building up to some huge world-altering event that never actually happens. It's like the authors finally realized after 3 books that they didn't really know what they were trying to say or where they wanted the...more
Finally finished off this Leviathan.
Was much more impressive when I first started reading it some time around 2000 or so. Perhaps my memory of its excellence had inflated in the intervening years. Or perhaps I have gotten much more fluent in conspiracy literature since then, making the originally mind-blowing "revelations" (fictive or not) less so now. And even back then I found the writing pretty bad.
Still, it remains impressive, first, because it manages to keep all its crazy threads going unt...more
Was much more impressive when I first started reading it some time around 2000 or so. Perhaps my memory of its excellence had inflated in the intervening years. Or perhaps I have gotten much more fluent in conspiracy literature since then, making the originally mind-blowing "revelations" (fictive or not) less so now. And even back then I found the writing pretty bad.
Still, it remains impressive, first, because it manages to keep all its crazy threads going unt...more
I WANT TO BELIEVE--more importantly, I just wish I could understand.
The Illuminatus! Trilogy is a brilliant work--it really is. The writing, references, connections, intentionally loose treatment of history, stream of conscious craziness is genius. But I think I'm just too stupid.
I am familiar with all the conspiracy theories within, and I found the author's humorous treatment of obscure, famous, and plain goofy (c'mon The Discordians riding around in a golden submarine trying to plunder Atlanti...more
The Illuminatus! Trilogy is a brilliant work--it really is. The writing, references, connections, intentionally loose treatment of history, stream of conscious craziness is genius. But I think I'm just too stupid.
I am familiar with all the conspiracy theories within, and I found the author's humorous treatment of obscure, famous, and plain goofy (c'mon The Discordians riding around in a golden submarine trying to plunder Atlanti...more
When I first got to college, a mere 16 year old pup, my first girlfriend there was 21... and heavily into Objectivism. Angsty teen that I was, and eager to please as always, I poured through Atlas Shrugged (and then everything else Rand had ever written, I tend to devour an author's works whenever I discover them). For a year or so I was a very, very annoying Randroid.
Then I stumbled across Illuminatus! when I was aimlessly browsing in a book store. "Why the fuck not?" thought I, and picked it...more
Then I stumbled across Illuminatus! when I was aimlessly browsing in a book store. "Why the fuck not?" thought I, and picked it...more
This is one of the most profoundly influential books I've ever read, personally, and likewise its impact on post-modern pop culture cannot be overstated. I actually think this book should be required reading in high school, except then of course that would take all the subversive fun out of it. But at least it would help prevent people from jumping on bandwagons like David Icke's shape-shifting lizards and they would hopefully stop posting comments on Youtube about how everything from the stupid...more
I think calling this my favourite book might be a bit of a step too far, it's not critically acclaimed or even particularly well written, at least apparently. It's not really a book it just wears that to fool you.
I was struggling as what to put in the review space and i see that other people have had trouble too. It's not necessarily that the narrative is difficult to follow, or that there are too many characters or organisations, though a pen and paper may come in handy. It's more that each cha...more
I was struggling as what to put in the review space and i see that other people have had trouble too. It's not necessarily that the narrative is difficult to follow, or that there are too many characters or organisations, though a pen and paper may come in handy. It's more that each cha...more
The Illuminatus! Trilogy saved my life.
It won't save yours.
Since first reading it at age 13 (the year it saved my life), I have dutifully re-read the entire trilogy (really, it's not that long) every five years since. But when I was 13, that was 1979: the jokes about Nixon, late 60s and early 70s rock bands, the coming of disco, the obscure neopagan nonsense that washed through every college campus in the late 1980s, bizarre alternative histories and conspiracies theories, were hilarious and fas...more
It won't save yours.
Since first reading it at age 13 (the year it saved my life), I have dutifully re-read the entire trilogy (really, it's not that long) every five years since. But when I was 13, that was 1979: the jokes about Nixon, late 60s and early 70s rock bands, the coming of disco, the obscure neopagan nonsense that washed through every college campus in the late 1980s, bizarre alternative histories and conspiracies theories, were hilarious and fas...more
Apr 05, 2012
Harry
is currently reading it
"It's a dreadfully long monster of a book," Wildeblood says pettishly, "and I certainly won't have time to read it, but I'm giving it a thorough skimming. The authors are utterly incompetent--no sense of style or structure at all. It starts out as a detective story, switches to science-fiction, then goes off into the supernatural, and is full of the most detailed information of dozens of ghastly boring subjects. And the time sequence is all out of order in a very pretentious imitation of Faulkne...more
Possibly the wittiest book i have had the pleasure to read, from start to finish. It makes you lol, not an internet lol but a real lol, vocal chords and and lots of "hehehehe Hagbard you bugger, your funny" kinda laugh.
I have read it twice now so am very familiar with the book, which really helped upon the second reading. It is a very long book, and if your taking your time reading it then you may forget a few things, like why Saul ended up in that weird hospital, the first time i read it i comp...more
I have read it twice now so am very familiar with the book, which really helped upon the second reading. It is a very long book, and if your taking your time reading it then you may forget a few things, like why Saul ended up in that weird hospital, the first time i read it i comp...more
There are many plotlines and characters, and the narrative constantly skips from one thing to another. I think every reader will find at least some plots/characters to like.
I agree with some of the points in this novel, such as the idea that humans are constantly and unnaturally forced into pigeon holes and labels. I like the way one of the main characters, Hagbard Celine, defines himself as neither conservative nor liberal but simply a human being. There is also a cool dolphin and a pint-sized...more
I agree with some of the points in this novel, such as the idea that humans are constantly and unnaturally forced into pigeon holes and labels. I like the way one of the main characters, Hagbard Celine, defines himself as neither conservative nor liberal but simply a human being. There is also a cool dolphin and a pint-sized...more
This book takes you into the paranoid world of a large cast of characters bent on rising up against the forces of the Illuminati conspiracy that surrounds us all. As a humming underground sect, fueled by endless money and drugs, the underground champions fight against them for the freedom of thought and action of every world citizen.
I read this heavy volume several times in my life, and every time I do, I realize something else about my world that is disturbing and troubling, and with good reas...more
I read this heavy volume several times in my life, and every time I do, I realize something else about my world that is disturbing and troubling, and with good reas...more
This was the strangest book I have ever read. I almost gave up a couple of times but I am glad I didn't.
The book presents every conspiracy theory known to man in a fashion that seems to defy coherent timeline and consistency. It is as if each chapter was written independently, with only the faintest of connecting threads. I often thought that I was reading someone's acid induced musings.
It wasn't until I had read well into the book that I realized there actually was a pattern to the story. It wa...more
The book presents every conspiracy theory known to man in a fashion that seems to defy coherent timeline and consistency. It is as if each chapter was written independently, with only the faintest of connecting threads. I often thought that I was reading someone's acid induced musings.
It wasn't until I had read well into the book that I realized there actually was a pattern to the story. It wa...more
Be careful if you're going to pick up this book. This is not the kind of story that hands everything to you, or wraps up every element of the plot in a neat little bow. This book demands a lot of you, it moves fast, and not always in the way you expect, and you just have to keep up. Yes, there are plenty of places where you are going to have NO IDEA just what is going on, you are going to have to go back and re read passages to understand them, and you do need to read all of the appendices if yo...more
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Robert Joseph Shea (February 14, 1933 - March 10, 1994) was an American novelist and former journalist best known as co-author with Robert Anton Wilson of the science fantasy trilogy Illuminatus!. It became a cult success and was later turned into a marathon-length stage show put on at the British National Theatre and elsewhere. In 1986 it won the Prometheus Hall of Fame Award. Shea went on to wri...more
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