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Siapa duga kita yang hidup sekarang sudah berusia 3550 tahun?
Sipa duga kita semua sesungguhnya adalah sepupu?
Siapa duga kita semua adalah bukti bahwa kaidah hidup yang utama adalah kerjasama bahu-membahu, bukan persaingan apalagi gontok-gontokan?

Kita, serta serangkaian panjang leluhur kita, mulai dari bakteri hingga Homo sapiens, benar-benar makhluk yang sukses. Di antara
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Published November 2005 by Kepustakaan Populer Gramedia (first published 1994)
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Adam
Aug 15, 2007 Adam rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This book takes about 30 minutes to read, but is probably the best book I've read when it comes to shooting down morons who believe in stupid shit. If you're offended by the fact that I think creationism is utter bullshit, I'm sorry - but Richard Dawkins isn't, and he's more than happy to give a hundred reasons why you're a moron for believing it.

On top of giving ammo to those of us who do come in contact with the less scientifically enlightened among us (snobbery, anyone?), he manages to put a
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Carlo
There are some good examples in this book, in addition to some good science-fiction scenarios that were enjoyable and original, but I found it hurrying from topic to topic without much depth. There's nothing special here that can't be found in Dawkins' other book. If you still didn't read The Blind Watchmaker, or better still The Ancestor's Tale, I would suggest you opt for them as the topics he is talking about in this book are better treated in in the others and in the case of The Ancestor's T ...more
Anh Dũng
Jun 03, 2016 Anh Dũng rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: non-fiction, avaiable
Tác giả quá liều lĩnh khi:
- Giải thích kiến thức sinh học di truyền bằng một kiến thức một ngành khoa học khác: Điện tử viễn thông.
- Đưa khá nhiều vấn đề với quá nhiều thuật ngữ chuyên môn
P/s: Dòng sông trôi khuất địa đàng: dòng sông ở đây là dòng sông di truyền ADN, địa đàng ám chỉ về tổ tiên Adam và Eva.
Steve
Oct 22, 2010 Steve rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science
There is a point in River Out of Eden when the stark brutality of nature really hits home. With a nervous system programmed to kill anything that moves near its young unless it emits a babies cry, a deaf mother turkey mistakes her children for predators and, in a bid to protect them, ends up massacring every last one. It's one of several tragic anecdotes used to make an important point, and the kind of jolt that Dawkins does best. This is not however a pessimistic book. Far from it. As Dawkins r ...more
Simon Maginn
Jan 23, 2010 Simon Maginn rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Magisterial. In person, Richard Dawkins can seem defensive, arrogant: chippy. Hardly surprising, considering that he is a dignified and serious scientist who has had to spend years combating preposterous and impudent attacks. But his books are meticulous, supple and surprisingly sensual. His love of, and fascination with, the mechanics of the natural world is exhilarating and a joy to read. Complexities melt away, leaving a view of the world which is infinitely more beautiful, mysterious and ast ...more
Abubakar
Apr 10, 2016 Abubakar rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This book is an ideal introduction to ‘Dawkinism’ and Natural Selection. Eloquent, succinct and full of fascinating anecdotes, Dawkins presents a brief but strong case against Creationism, and moves on to give an overview of his scientific worldview.
Pink
May 25, 2016 Pink rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: non-fiction, science
This was okay, but it felt like a simplified version of his other work. A good place to start, but maybe one to skip over if you've read The Selfish Gene or The Blind Watchmaker: Why the Evidence of Evolution Reveals a Universe Without Design.
Cassandra Kay Silva
May 16, 2016 Cassandra Kay Silva rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science
I didn't connect with the river analogy and also felt that the "greatest show on earth" and some of his other works were much stronger but this was still enjoyable.
Rod Hilton
Jun 06, 2010 Rod Hilton rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science, audiobooks
This is simply a beautiful book. It's kind of hard to put into words why this book is worth reading, or even really what it's about, but I'll try.

Richard Dawkins was catapulted into popular stardom by his views on religion, not his views on science. But what the average person (who now knows his name) doesn't know is that Dawkins was a well-respected evolutionary biologist long before he released "The God Delusion". The vast majority of his books are written within his primary field of expertise
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Toni Daugherty
Feb 09, 2011 Toni Daugherty rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I finally get him!!! Guess what? Your DNA is eternal, not you. It flows like a river through us (and all creatures) and we are merely the banks (of the river) that house the DNA for its continuation into next generation, and the next (or not).

I have read many of Dawkins' books and articles and this is a winner! If you're interested in learning exactly what Dawkins means by "The Selfish Gene" or the DNA river - this is the read & it's a quicky! The concepts are not as difficult in this book a
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Tony
Apr 03, 2015 Tony rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science
RIVER OUT OF EDEN: A Darwinian View of life. (1995). Richard Dawkins. ****.
Dawkins again offers different facts and scenarios for the creation and evolution of life using Darwinian principles. His examples are exciting and, usually, clear. Occasionally, after a series of sentences that make perfect sense, and that lead to an obvious paragraph of clear meaning, he proposes a solution that summarizes all of his critical thinking that I simply do not understand. Where did that come from? After re-r
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Gage
Jan 06, 2015 Gage rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I like how the author goes on tangents and tells the reader about interesting animal behaviors. Some of the topics are comical, like tricking bees to fly into rocks. The topics discussed were very interesting-it may have been the presentation-but the thoughts at the beginning were so novel that I really wanted to hear more. Some of the things it said have inspired me to look at some normally mundane things in a new perspective. When I finished the book, I was anxious for more.

River Out Of Eden i
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James Murphy
Aug 19, 2009 James Murphy rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I thought this book elegant. The writing is elegant. Dawkins's use of analogy and example to explain the complexities of evolution is elegant. He glides from idea to idea as elegantly as dance. I only wish I had more background. Dawkins' writing here isn't overbearingly technical. Still, not being a strong swimmer in science, I found myself at times over my head in deep pools of DNA and replicator genes and had to flail a bit before finding a toehold on some sandbar of familiar detail. That's no ...more
Elisa Clawson
I got this book for an english class. Richard Dawkins really bugs me. His view is that people who are religious are uneducated and delusional - hence his newest book "The God Delusion".
Jun Nguyễn
Oct 09, 2014 Jun Nguyễn rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science
Đối với một người không làm chuyên hay liên quan đến các lĩnh vực gắn liền với Sinh Học, cuốn sách sẽ là một niềm vui thú, nhưng với người thuộc về lĩnh vực này, cuốn sách là chưa đủ. Đôi lúc từ ngữ mông lung và gây khó hiểu, tương tự khi nói về một vấn đề khoa học, cần phải có thêm các hình ảnh minh họa để có thể diễn đạt tốt nhất, như khi nói về điệu múa của loài ong, tốt hơn hết vẫn là phải có một lưu đồ, lược đồ nào đó để minh họa rõ. Không rõ là do cách dịch, hay do bản thân hành văn, cuốn ...more
L.S.
May 10, 2009 L.S. rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2009, science
Este o carte destul de uşor de citit iar ilustraţiile folosite de Dawkins, alături de stilul său, facilitează înţelegerea textului. În acest sens îmi place exemplul folosit pentru procesul de speciaţie prin izolare geografică: veveriţele roşii nu mai sunt interfertile cu cele cenuşii, din cauza separării teritoriale, în timp ce veveriţele cenuşii din America de Nord s-ar putea (încă) împerechea dacă s-ar întâlni cu cele din Europa. Este un exemplu bun pentru a descrie evoluţia. Însă ce fel de ev ...more
Mike Jensen
Jan 27, 2013 Mike Jensen rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I really have only three minor problems with this book. I am not impressed by Dawkins as a writer. His extended metaphor of the river down which all life flows, from the first single cell creatures to our eventual descendants, is actually quite an effective way of explaining the ins and outs of evolution, but it goes on and on and on, much like the river itself. Boredom sets in.

Though many do not find it so, Dawkins’s style is dull to me. It is too much of a chore to read his book.

I am not pers
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Sebouh
Apr 08, 2013 Sebouh rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
A Digital DNA river runs into the future. It has extremely high (but not perfect) replication fidelity, and may bifurcate, giving rise to new species. Evolution and biology is (again) beautifully explained by Dawkins.
Some of the points I found interesting in the book:
1. Living organisms evoke a strong illusion of design, which makes sense at first glance. But science (often counter-intuitive) shows otherwise. The key to understand that is to imagine gradual change over long span of time , and
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Yofish
Jan 05, 2009 Yofish rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: read-science-y
Short enough. Mostly interesting, but I also knew a lot that he covered. And even though it was written in 1995, it felt slightly dated. A little episodic, and a little short. Five (mostly independent) chapters at around 35 pages each. Two were not that interesting to me. I did like the one trying to respond to the argument that evolution is impossible because half an eye is not at all useful. (He focused on that as well as a letter he received about how an orchid is shaped just so that a male w ...more
David
Sep 15, 2013 David rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Dawkin's shortest book is a concentrated study of the genetic inheritance and progressive genetic development of organic life forms. This book was remarkably easier to follow than his first book and shows much more of his personality, enthusiasm and passion for biology. He seems to pick out fewer examples to communicate each point than in "The Selfish Gene" but they seem to be those carefully selected because they are the points which can be more thoroughly developed for the purpose of instructi ...more
Tuệ Trần
May 03, 2015 Tuệ Trần rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Nếu muốn đọc về thuyết tiến hóa, thì cuốn này là khởi đầu tốt.

Dawkins đưa ra trong cuốn này rất nhiều nghiên cứu đáng ngạc nhiên về tự nhiên. Kèm kết luận về tính phi đạo đức (phi thiện ác) của chúng.
Aries
Sep 13, 2012 Aries rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: divulgazione
Ho conosciuto Richard Dawkins più anni fa di quanto mi piaccia ricordare, leggendo nella collana “Discovery” il suo splendido “Il gene egoista”; è da allora che avevo voglia di andare avanti nel leggere suoi testi, così da approfondire l’argomento dell’evoluzione dal suo punto di vista, quello di un biologo genetista; ora ho una buona scorta di suoi volumi da leggere, ma il primo è stato proprio “il fiume della vita”, una breve introduzione ai concetti evoluzionistici che parte dalla base stessa ...more
Bob Anderson
Mar 17, 2015 Bob Anderson rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This book uses Dawkins’s analogy of life as a river of genes flowing to great effect; as part of BasicBooks’s Science Masters series, it does a good job of fulfilling its main goal of increasing scientific literacy. It dispels common misbeliefs about the evolutionary process and the evolutionary subject, and does it with style to boot. It points out the the emergence of new species is not a sudden jolt that would be necessarily noticed at the time, that the tree model of descent and ancestry fai ...more
Amir
Jan 05, 2015 Amir rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The rule of thumb a turkey mother uses torecognize nest robbers is a dismayingly brusque one: In the vicinity of yournest, attack anything that moves, unless it makes a noise like a baby turkey.This was discovered by an Austrian zoologist named Wolfgang Schleidt. Schleidtonce had a mother turkey that savagely killed all her own babies. The reasonwas woefully simple: she was deaf. Predators, as far as the turkey’s nervous system is concerned, are defined as moving objects that don’t emit baby’s c ...more
Adam Morva
Apr 09, 2016 Adam Morva rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
River Out of Eden is what Richard does best: Complex scientific thoughts explained clearly via eloquent language to the layman. Another of his poems to reality, if you will.

This rather short book mainly talks about concepts related to evolution / heredity / genetics / human ancestry. It's aimed at the layman, as it doesn't really hold much new information for the biologist, but I think everyone can enjoy Richard's writing.

Richard Dawkins reads the audiobook version.
Trí Trần
Thực ra là 3.25/5. Nếu ngày xưa chịu khó học môn Sinh thì có lẽ giờ mình sẽ có thể cảm nhận cuốn này tốt hơn, nhưng quả thật nó quá khó xơi, mình chỉ thấm được khoảng 75% là cùng. Đáng tiếc, đáng tiếc.

Bộ đôi dịch giả Ngô Toàn và Mai Hiên đã cố gắng làm cuốn này dễ đọc hết mức có thể. Khốn nạn là với mình thì còn quá nhiều chỗ khó hiểu TTvTT
Máximo Hdz
Un libro más ligero que El gen egoísta y El relojero ciego pero que más que redundante sirve tanto de complemento como de introducción a las ideas detrás de la evolución y el origen de la vida desarrollados en aquellos. Fiel a su costumbre y como los títulos arriba mencionados Dawkins hace una analogía sobre la forma en que los genes sobreviven a lo largo del tiempo y a través de las generaciones comparándolo con un río, "un río de instrucciones abstractas para construir cuerpos".
Tampoco podía f
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Siti Nurul Qomariah
Teori tentang penciptaan sudah ada sejak lama, namun akhirnya teori penciptaan itu diguncang oleh teori evolusi dan seleksi alam dari raksasa ilmuan Charles Darwin dan Alfred Wallace. Setiap kali lo mendengar kata evolusi, mungkin yang terpikir oleh lo adalah manusia berasal dari monyet, jika lo berpikir demikian, lo perlu membaca buku ini.

Buku ini memang masuk kategori tipis banget buat gw, tapi isinya padat dan berbobot. Buku ini cocok banget dibaca sama lo semua yang masih mengira bahwa manus
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Michael Anderson
This is a "big picture" book of Dawkins's views on evolution. There is not a lot of depth, maybe not enough in some cases, but there are plenty of examples illustrating evolutionary developmental technique and purpose, the callousness of nature's approach to life's advances, and various theories on DNA and gene self replication. It's a good, short read and may well lead me to more of Dawkins's science oriented texts.
VeganMedusa
Feb 26, 2011 VeganMedusa rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I got a bit lost at the beginning, and totally sidetracked by digital vs analogue, but that led to some interesting discussions with hubby, who has no problems understanding that kind of thing. Chapter 2 was much more interesting to me. I had no idea that so much had been found out about the honeybee dance and I'd like to read more about it. I heart Richard Dawkins. Will have to read his latest soon.
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“The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute that it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive, many others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear, others are slowly being devoured from within by rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst, and disease. It must be so. If there ever is a time of plenty, this very fact will automatically lead to an increase in the population until the natural state of starvation and misery is restored. In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” 258 likes
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