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Siapa duga kita yang hidup sekarang sudah berusia 3550 tahun?
Sipa duga kita semua sesungguhnya adalah sepupu?
Siapa duga kita semua adalah bukti bahwa kaidah hidup yang utama adalah kerjasama bahu-membahu, bukan persaingan apalagi gontok-gontokan?

Kita, serta serangkaian panjang leluhur kita, mulai dari bakteri hingga Homo sapiens, benar-benar makhluk yang sukses. Di antara
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Paperback, 194 pages
Published November 2005 by Kepustakaan Populer Gramedia (first published 1994)
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Adam
This book takes about 30 minutes to read, but is probably the best book I've read when it comes to shooting down morons who believe in stupid shit. If you're offended by the fact that I think creationism is utter bullshit, I'm sorry - but Richard Dawkins isn't, and he's more than happy to give a hundred reasons why you're a moron for believing it.

On top of giving ammo to those of us who do come in contact with the less scientifically enlightened among us (snobbery, anyone?), he manages to put a
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Carlo
There are some good examples in this book, in addition to some good science-fiction scenarios that were enjoyable and original, but I found it hurrying from topic to topic without much depth. There's nothing special here that can't be found in Dawkins' other book. If you still didn't read The Blind Watchmaker, or better still The Ancestor's Tale, I would suggest you opt for them as the topics he is talking about in this book are better treated in in the others and in the case of The Ancestor's T ...more
Rod Hilton
This is simply a beautiful book. It's kind of hard to put into words why this book is worth reading, or even really what it's about, but I'll try.

Richard Dawkins was catapulted into popular stardom by his views on religion, not his views on science. But what the average person (who now knows his name) doesn't know is that Dawkins was a well-respected evolutionary biologist long before he released "The God Delusion". The vast majority of his books are written within his primary field of expertise
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Steve
There is a point in River Out of Eden when the stark brutality of nature really hits home. With a nervous system programmed to kill anything that moves near its young unless it emits a babies cry, a deaf mother turkey mistakes her children for predators and, in a bid to protect them, ends up massacring every last one. It's one of several tragic anecdotes used to make an important point, and the kind of jolt that Dawkins does best. This is not however a pessimistic book. Far from it. As Dawkins r ...more
Simon Maginn
Magisterial. In person, Richard Dawkins can seem defensive, arrogant: chippy. Hardly surprising, considering that he is a dignified and serious scientist who has had to spend years combating preposterous and impudent attacks. But his books are meticulous, supple and surprisingly sensual. His love of, and fascination with, the mechanics of the natural world is exhilarating and a joy to read. Complexities melt away, leaving a view of the world which is infinitely more beautiful, mysterious and ast ...more
Toni Daugherty
I finally get him!!! Guess what? Your DNA is eternal, not you. It flows like a river through us (and all creatures) and we are merely the banks (of the river) that house the DNA for its continuation into next generation, and the next (or not).

I have read many of Dawkins' books and articles and this is a winner! If you're interested in learning exactly what Dawkins means by "The Selfish Gene" or the DNA river - this is the read & it's a quicky! The concepts are not as difficult in this book a
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James Murphy
I thought this book elegant. The writing is elegant. Dawkins's use of analogy and example to explain the complexities of evolution is elegant. He glides from idea to idea as elegantly as dance. I only wish I had more background. Dawkins' writing here isn't overbearingly technical. Still, not being a strong swimmer in science, I found myself at times over my head in deep pools of DNA and replicator genes and had to flail a bit before finding a toehold on some sandbar of familiar detail. That's no ...more
Gage
I like how the author goes on tangents and tells the reader about interesting animal behaviors. Some of the topics are comical, like tricking bees to fly into rocks. The topics discussed were very interesting-it may have been the presentation-but the thoughts at the beginning were so novel that I really wanted to hear more. Some of the things it said have inspired me to look at some normally mundane things in a new perspective. When I finished the book, I was anxious for more.

River Out Of Eden i
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Elisa Clawson
I got this book for an english class. Richard Dawkins really bugs me. His view is that people who are religious are uneducated and delusional - hence his newest book "The God Delusion".
L.S.
Este o carte destul de uşor de citit iar ilustraţiile folosite de Dawkins, alături de stilul său, facilitează înţelegerea textului. În acest sens îmi place exemplul folosit pentru procesul de speciaţie prin izolare geografică: veveriţele roşii nu mai sunt interfertile cu cele cenuşii, din cauza separării teritoriale, în timp ce veveriţele cenuşii din America de Nord s-ar putea (încă) împerechea dacă s-ar întâlni cu cele din Europa. Este un exemplu bun pentru a descrie evoluţia. Însă ce fel de ev ...more
Mike Jensen
I really have only three minor problems with this book. I am not impressed by Dawkins as a writer. His extended metaphor of the river down which all life flows, from the first single cell creatures to our eventual descendants, is actually quite an effective way of explaining the ins and outs of evolution, but it goes on and on and on, much like the river itself. Boredom sets in.

Though many do not find it so, Dawkins’s style is dull to me. It is too much of a chore to read his book.

I am not pers
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Sebouh
A Digital DNA river runs into the future. It has extremely high (but not perfect) replication fidelity, and may bifurcate, giving rise to new species. Evolution and biology is (again) beautifully explained by Dawkins.
Some of the points I found interesting in the book:
1. Living organisms evoke a strong illusion of design, which makes sense at first glance. But science (often counter-intuitive) shows otherwise. The key to understand that is to imagine gradual change over long span of time , and
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Yofish
Short enough. Mostly interesting, but I also knew a lot that he covered. And even though it was written in 1995, it felt slightly dated. A little episodic, and a little short. Five (mostly independent) chapters at around 35 pages each. Two were not that interesting to me. I did like the one trying to respond to the argument that evolution is impossible because half an eye is not at all useful. (He focused on that as well as a letter he received about how an orchid is shaped just so that a male w ...more
David
Dawkin's shortest book is a concentrated study of the genetic inheritance and progressive genetic development of organic life forms. This book was remarkably easier to follow than his first book and shows much more of his personality, enthusiasm and passion for biology. He seems to pick out fewer examples to communicate each point than in "The Selfish Gene" but they seem to be those carefully selected because they are the points which can be more thoroughly developed for the purpose of instructi ...more
Trí Trần
Thực ra là 3.25/5. Nếu ngày xưa chịu khó học môn Sinh thì có lẽ giờ mình sẽ có thể cảm nhận cuốn này tốt hơn, nhưng quả thật nó quá khó xơi, mình chỉ thấm được khoảng 75% là cùng. Đáng tiếc, đáng tiếc.

Bộ đôi dịch giả Ngô Toàn và Mai Hiên đã cố gắng làm cuốn này dễ đọc hết mức có thể. Khốn nạn là với mình thì còn quá nhiều chỗ khó hiểu TTvTT
Michael Anderson
This is a "big picture" book of Dawkins's views on evolution. There is not a lot of depth, maybe not enough in some cases, but there are plenty of examples illustrating evolutionary developmental technique and purpose, the callousness of nature's approach to life's advances, and various theories on DNA and gene self replication. It's a good, short read and may well lead me to more of Dawkins's science oriented texts.
VeganMedusa
I got a bit lost at the beginning, and totally sidetracked by digital vs analogue, but that led to some interesting discussions with hubby, who has no problems understanding that kind of thing. Chapter 2 was much more interesting to me. I had no idea that so much had been found out about the honeybee dance and I'd like to read more about it. I heart Richard Dawkins. Will have to read his latest soon.
Bernadette
I can't say I understood 100% of this book, but I enjoyed this closer look at and exploration of Darwinism, DNA, and natural selection. I particularly enjoyed all the interesting tidbits about different animals that I learned along the way. Nature is fascinating!
Larry
As in his other books, Dawkins' prose is clear, precise, and understandable without being unnecessarily technical. The concepts are presented in simple terms, but are not over-simplified. The "river" alluded to in the title is the digital river of information encoded in DNA which flows through time, and space. His first chapter, "The Digital River" establishes this metaphor as the central image and unifying theme for an explanation of Darwinian evolution.

This is an important book, one which eve
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Jim Razinha
Wonderful little book - I like Dawkins best when he doesn't write for academia. Excellent overview for Darwinian evolution...simple, logical explanations that should serve most receptive readers, and really dispels the "not possible for an intermediate stage" arguments. There are nice turns of phrase throughout (I especially liked "embryological origami"). And he points out an outstanding counter to the "you can't answer 'why' questions":
The mere fact that it is possible to frame a question doe
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Jun Nguyễn
Đối với một người không làm chuyên hay liên quan đến các lĩnh vực gắn liền với Sinh Học, cuốn sách sẽ là một niềm vui thú, nhưng với người thuộc về lĩnh vực này, cuốn sách là chưa đủ. Đôi lúc từ ngữ mông lung và gây khó hiểu, tương tự khi nói về một vấn đề khoa học, cần phải có thêm các hình ảnh minh họa để có thể diễn đạt tốt nhất, như khi nói về điệu múa của loài ong, tốt hơn hết vẫn là phải có một lưu đồ, lược đồ nào đó để minh họa rõ. Không rõ là do cách dịch, hay do bản thân hành văn, cuốn ...more
Socialbookshelves.com
Dawkins is one of those writers who expands your mind every time you read his work, and this book is no different – in it, he expands on Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution to investigate how a river of D.N.A. has flowed through time to branch out in to the diverse range of species that cover the surface of our planet.

It’s stunningly simple whilst being simultaneously in-depth and educational, and I learned stuff here that I never thought I’d understand. Of course, Dawkins being Dawkins, he als
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Andrea
Richard Dawkins is a fixture in modern evolutionary thought. His books are written so that even those with little knowledge of ecology or evolution can understand them, which is important work in a world where dogma and ignorance often seem to overrule fact and science in places like, say, congress. That said, I am not, and probably never will be, a fan of Dawkins' writing style. He stretches metaphors until they've long lost their plasticity to maintain interest or relevance. His example of pro ...more
Joseph Sverker
I don't quite get Dawkins. He starts off scientifically and biologically then in the end he speculates about the universe and interplanetarian life, why? His critique of religion in general and Christianity in particular shines through as in all the books I've read so far of him. Some interesting arguments and other simple cheap sneers. It is obvious that he is anti-Christian in his ideas. i would even go so far as to say that he might be pre-Christian, that he goes back to that Roman culture th ...more
Koen Crolla
This was the last of Dawkins' books I didn't have yet, and it took long enough to get a hold of a copy; and though it is very short (under 200 pages), it was worth the wait.
I've often said that the quality of Dawkins' writing has deteriorated a lot in the 21st century (I still don't know why, because the quality of the content has not, really; maybe it's because he's writing for American audiences now), and it's nice to see that it isn't something I'm imagining because I've become more demanding
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Mutlu Cankay
Tanrı Yanılgısı'nın yazarı, Dawkins'in 1995'te yayınlanmış olan kitabı.

Yazar, ilginç bilgiler vererek, elektronik mühendisliğine atıflar yaparak kitabına son derece güçlü bir giriş yapıyor. Soy ağaçlarıyla ilgili kanıksanmış yanlış anlaşılmaları düzeltiyor ve "ata" kavramını açıklığa kavuşturuyor. Ünlü "Mitkondriyel Havva" bulgularından detaylı bahsederek insanın ortak kökenlerini arayan bilim dünyasına davet ediyor okuru. İstatistiksel örnekleri, mantık kalıplarından sıyrılmadan güzel tasvirler
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Azael Márquez
I do not believe this is a book for someone who is looking for "ammo" when approaching creationists. It is much more.

Dawkins takes us by the hand, lovingly and carefully explaining difficult questions and their scientific answers. He explains the nature and tools of genes, how and on which criteria they are passed on. At the end of the book he explains us with marvellous beauty the nature of our own explosion of life, and sees trough the eyes of a dreamer what the next step may be.
David S. T.
After the blind watchmaker, I wasn't going to read any more Dawkins until I read the Selfish Gene, but I found this book in a dollar bin and because its so short I went ahead and read it. This book really benefits from its short length, for once Dawkins seems to really stay on track and not ramble on. I sometimes feel that the other of his book are filled with 30% fluff just to make them longer. The book follows a digital river (DNA), and uses that to follow first bacteria type of cells, then mu ...more
Erica
Dawkins explains the reasons behind baffling natural phenomena and animal behavior using the framework he proposed in "The Selfish Gene" (namely, that humans and indeed all living things are merely elaborate vessels to house and propagate genes). The discoveries about everything from bee mapmakers to the origins of humans are often mind-bending, but as an agnostic, I find his strident materialist-athiest ideology a tad self-important. Scientific discovery need not be diametrically opposed to the ...more
Rena Sherwood
Richard Dawkins' best book focusing on evolution. Gorgeous illustrations by his wife. Highly recommended -- especially to someone who has no clue as to how evolution works.
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