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Alice in Sunderland

by Bryan Talbot, A.N. Other (Introduction)

3.77 of 5 stars 3.77 · rating details · 633 ratings · 128 reviews

Sunderland! Thirteen hundred years ago it was the greatest center of learning in the whole of Christendom and the very cradle of English consciousness. In the time of Lewis Carroll it was the greatest shipbuilding port in the world. To this city that gave the world the electric light bulb, the stars and stripes, the millennium, the Liberty Ships and the greatest British dr...more

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Published April 10th 2007 by Dark Horse Comics (first published January 1st 2007)

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Apr 14, 2013 Paul rated it 2 of 5 stars

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'I should understand this book far better,' said Alice to herself, 'if I started at the beginning again. But how curiously it twists! It's more like a corkscrew than a book! Well, this turn goes to Sunderland, a large northern English city, and this goes straight back to Lewis Carroll! Well then, I'll try it the other way.'

And so she did: turning page after page, back and forth, but always coming back to Sunderland or Lewis Carroll.

'It's no use talking about it,' Alice said, looking up at the bo...more

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Jun 24, 2008 James rated it 4 of 5 stars

Alice in Sunderland is technically a “graphic novel,” but an unruly, bursting, whimsical one that makes the experience of interacting with it engaging and fun. It often forgoes the frames of traditional sequential storytelling in favor of busy scrapbook-like collages that reinforce the intricate, intertextual, interwoven, self-referential story about a story about a story (ad infinitum) motif that defines and dominates this graphic novel. It is a reading experience unlike any other you’re likely...more

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May 15, 2007 Simon rated it 5 of 5 stars Recommends it for: Everyone

Shelves: comic-books

I can honestly say I've never read anything like that before.

Alice in Sunderland is essentially a history of the North East from Saxon times to the modern day, mixed with a study of Lewis Carrol's forgotten (or, if you are feeling paranoid, 'surpressed') links with the area.

On top of that you have interviews, reviews, polemic, politics, biography and tenuously linked sidebars. The characters include the Author (playing three parts), Sid James, George Formby, Alice Liddel, The Lady in Grey, local...more

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Sep 17, 2007 Jen rated it 2 of 5 stars · review of another edition Recommends it for: no migraine suferers

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This book makes my brain hurt. I'm not much of a visual reader, this I know, but this book actually made me a bit dizzy. The artwork is amazing--very stimulating; collage-like and colorful. The story is probably good too; sort of a history of England and the world of fiction, focusing on Lewis Carroll. The two pieces together, though, are like a giant strobe light in my linear, text-based mind. If you like graphic formats, and are comfortable reading them, this is probably ok. Graphic formats ar...more

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Jan 31, 2009 Lars Guthrie rated it 4 of 5 stars

I came across this book in librarian Nancy Pearl's latest "below-the-radar" offering on NPR. I already knew a little Bryan Talbot, from his estimable 'The Tale of One Bad Rat,' an odd little graphic novel that stuck in my memory. Pearl intrigued me: 'I...realized, while reading Talbot's work, that the term "graphic novel" is just not descriptive enough to categorize illustrated books like this, and how the word "reading" fails to capture the totality of the experience of poring over a work like...more

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May 04, 2012 David rated it 5 of 5 stars

Although Alice in Sunderland is marketed as a graphic novel, it is not really a novel so much as a portmanteau of a history text, a Ken Burns-style documentary, an ontological conundrum worthy of Tom Stoppard, a biography, an art lesson, and a literary analysis. And "portmanteau" is an appropriate word, as it comes directly from one of the main subjects of the work: Lewis Carroll and the Alice books. Although this book has plenty to say (both directly and indirectly) about Carroll, his works, an...more Although Alice in Sunderland is marketed as a graphic novel, it is not really a novel so much as a portmanteau of a history text, a Ken Burns-style documentary, an ontological conundrum worthy of Tom Stoppard, a biography, an art lesson, and a literary analysis. And "portmanteau" is an appropriate word, as it comes directly from one of the main subjects of the work: Lewis Carroll and the Alice books. Although this book has plenty to say (both directly and indirectly) about Carroll, his works, and the historical Alice Liddell, it also covers such varied topics as English history (literary, political, economic) from the pre-Celts to the present, music-hall entertainments, history of comics (from the Bayeaux Tapestry through Hogarth engravings to British underground comics of the 1960's), and local legends of the city of Sunderland and its environs.

Of particular interest to Mythopoeic folks is Talbot's exploration of the many connections between Lewis Carroll and the Sunderland area. He cites many references to support the claim that, contrary to popular belief (a belief that may have been intentionally manufactured), Carroll was not a shy and sheltered academic who never left Oxford. He details the many connections between Carroll and the Liddell family and the Sunderland area, and looks at the various controversies around Carroll's life and relationships.

In order to accomplish the varied tasks of the book, author/artist Talbot has inserted himself into the narrative in the forms of three (at least) different characters: "The Plebian", a man-on-the-street bloke who wanders into the empty Sunderland Empire theater, "The Performer", who strides onto the stage and begins the historical narrative for the often-bored Plebian, and "The Pilgrim", the artist who gets up from his drawing table and takes the readers on a walking (and sometimes boating) tour of Sunderland, telling the stories of various landmarks and introducing us to real people along the way.

Bryan Talbot is a respected comics writer/artist, best known for graphic novels such as the paratime psychedelic SF fantasy The Adventures of Luther Arkwright, its somewhat more conventional sequel Heart of Empire, and the mainstream story The Tale of One Bad Rat. In Alice in Sunderland he supplements his own excellent artwork with photographs, antique drawings, old theater handbills and the like, to create a kaleidoscopic combination of images that support and complement the text. Some pages are what we normally think of as "comics" – drawn panels with characters and dialogue balloons. Some are collages of visual materials with text running through. The visual mix increases with Talbot's occasional pastiches, as he includes sequences drawn in the styles of old MAD comics, Herge's Tintin books, 1950's Boy's Own adventure comics, and EC horror stories (complete with the requisite "Good Lord! *choke*"), and makes further visual allusions to Tenniel illustrations, Warner Brothers cartoons, and Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics.

This is also a frequently self-referential work, breaking the "fourth wall" and commenting on itself. As the Performer launches into a particularly dry historical account, the Plebian heckles him with fake snores and yells for him to get off the stage; the author is metaphorically winking at the audience and saying, "I know this is kind of dull, but bear with me." Talbot plays freely with levels of reality, more than once depicting himself as artist drawing the very scene on the page the viewer is holding, and inserting dream sequences in such a way as to cast doubt on his own veracity. At one point the visual style shifts into fumetti (photo-based comics) and features the artist himself saying, "What am I doing? Nobody's going to believe this. They'll think I made it all up!"

In keeping with the "entertainment" reference of the title, the book is designed as a theater: the front & back endpapers are meant to look like safety curtains; the frontispiece is a lobby-card advert; there is an intermission in the middle, and a great big "THE END" at the end (although it's not really the end). And in keeping with the main theme, the final pages allude to the "it was all a dream" endings of both Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass.

Reading through this book, one is struck by the immense variety of subjects and stories presented here. But Talbot manages to tie everything together into a cohesive unity, even though it doesn't always seem like it. This is an impressive work, entertaining, enlightening, and fun.
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Aug 09, 2011 William Holm added it · review of another edition

This is one big book. It contains huge amounts of all sorts of trivia connected with Sunderland in general and Lewis Carroll in particular. One might argue that it is a lot of talking and not much action but Talbot is such a skilled artisan that it is all very enjoyable. It also very educational, I had to turn to my dictionary several times. I thought of Scott McCloud and his books about how comics works while reading, and sure enough he makes an appearance about half way into the book, encourag...more

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Apr 05, 2011 Jenn rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: library-books, just-read, graphic-novel

I picked this one up purely for the title, I confess. Charlotte is obsessed with Alice in Wonderland, and I live in Sunderland Massachusetts (the book is, of course, referring to Sunderland, England). I am positive that whoever bought this book for the Sunderland Public Library bought it for the title, too.

This book reminded me a lot of From Hell, in that it is a wandering tale of the history of a place in the UK in graphic novel form. But where From Hell had kind of two layers, the story of Ja...more

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Aug 30, 2010 Raina rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: adult, biographical, graphicnovel, historical, nonfic, not-amerika

I give this five stars not because I loved the book. I gave this five stars because I admire (and was amazed by) the innovation in the medium and form. It feels like an annotated Alice in Wonderland, without the original text, in comic form. Plus all kinds of historical background on the region and context for the story. Basically a big lovesong to Sunderland, a region in England. One quibble I have is that the author occasionally uses the term "the East End" to refer to the place, and that made...more

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Jun 15, 2012 Cheryl A rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novel

...And you thought Alice in Wonderland was a trip!

Author Bryan Talbot has given us a mind boggling, eye popping tale of the culminative history of influence on the creation of Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland. From the beginning of history of Sunderland (wood weevils and limestone) to the restoration of the docksides (doors to the future and steps to the past), the audience of the Sunderland Empire theater (audience of one, plus a couple of ghosts) and the reader are randomly informed of the...more

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Jan 22, 2012 Maureen rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: fantasy, history, graphic-novels

My love of the Alice books drew me to this singular work, and indeed she is present throughout; but really, this book is about Sunderland, the author's hometown in NE England. To call it a graphic novel is misleading, but there is a story here: a story of a town from ancient times to it's connection with Lewis Carroll and beyond. It is packed with so much history, trivia, and musings that it can be overwhelming. The narration is freewheeling, tangential, dare I say manic? The gorgeous and bizarr...more

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Dec 10, 2008 Mark Desrosiers rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: comics, history

Thank the Muses for mid-life crises. Bryan Talbot, now age fifty and beginning to quake at the abyss, soothes his mind by telling the story of his adopted hometown, Sunderland, and how it relates to frequent holiday visitor Lewis Carroll and his fictional Alice (not to mention the historical Alice Liddell). He thereby conjures a vast, geeky historical web that stretches from prehistoric glaciation to Bryan Ferry, along the way unearthing wheelbarrows full of trivia, fiction & comix recommend...more

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Nov 12, 2011 Jason Pym rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: comics, non-fiction

Alice in Sunderland is a non-fiction comic that looks at the history of England (and the north east in particular) and how it links to Lewis Carroll's Alice books.

I love the way the book rambles, covering all kinds of tangential connections and faint influences on Carroll, and lots of references from Alice. Talbot has found lots of interesting stuff, and this would have made a great text-only book, but....

Visually, I found the book an irritating mess, which is a real shame. The worst offender a...more

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Feb 21, 2011 dejah_thoris rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novels

Dark Horse laid one with Talbot's Alice In Sunderland. I would recommend this book only for series Alice and Carroll enthusiasts because most of the text is a dry recitation of history with different images Photoshopped together into a background. Talbot does try to create 3 versions of himself to tell the "story" behind Carroll's life and Sunderland's ties to history but their interaction seems forced at best. There are a few highlights to the book, such as learning about "The Wasp In A Wig", b...more

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Apr 11, 2008 Lauradical rated it 5 of 5 stars

What I learned? My head was blugeoned open with the sheer volume and spread like a fine paste. You'll need Ritalin to stay with it and your eyeballs should fall out at the end if you've done it right. Which is perfect in the context. There's history, gossip, literary allusions, art and anything else you could want, just wait a few pages.

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Apr 02, 2009 Kris rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: read-in-2009

I tend to love the making of connections; I love watching a documentary about one thing that turns into a documentary about something else, or about making documentaries in general. That's why the collage-based Alice in Sunderland by British comics artist Brian Talbot intrigued me. It's an exploration not only of the origins of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland but of some of the places and people who inspired it and, as a comic, the comics medium itself. In that sense, it's a sort of combination...more I tend to love the making of connections; I love watching a documentary about one thing that turns into a documentary about something else, or about making documentaries in general. That's why the collage-based Alice in Sunderland by British comics artist Brian Talbot intrigued me. It's an exploration not only of the origins of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland but of some of the places and people who inspired it and, as a comic, the comics medium itself. In that sense, it's a sort of combination of James Burke's tv show "Connections," Orson Welles' F for Fake, and Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics (he even has a cameo). Talbot explains the connections the northeast of England has to the famous work, as well as all tangential curiosities of the history, art, and culture of that region.

It's all supported by archival material, arranged in a 319 page, full-color comic book with Talbot's drawings as a guide. He touches on Carroll, medieval monks, music hall stars, current public art installations, invasion, storytelling, industry, and comics history. There's a happy mix of styles, depending on the subject; a section about "Jack Crawford, the hero of Camperdown" is illustrated like a boys' adventure comic. Some of these sections succeed better than others--I could have lived without a literal illustration of the "Cry God for Harry, England, and Saint George!" speech from Henry V. I mean literal as in "or close the wall up with our English dead" is accompanied by a picture of a man doing just that.

What I also could have lived without, and what makes me loathe to recommend the book to anyone but the most ardent fan of non-narrative fact-collages about Alice in Wonderland, is that most of the images and backgrounds are bad Photoshop-filtered photographs. It's obvious and ugly, and it makes no sense to me. The photos (of Alice, of locations, of whatever) would be far more interesting on their own. Do I need to see a bubbly, blurry version of the vintage material he found? I finished the book, because I was interested in the material, but in the end I'm disappointed by the aesthetic choices made. And in a book about the comics medium, not to mention the story of Alice, you really want to love how it looks.(less)

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Mar 03, 2009 Shauna rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: yearly-favorites

Perhaps I should rate it more of a 4.5 stars, but the book just surprised me so that I leaned up to 5 than down to 4.
Wow, so different. I was awed by this book. I am not a comic book reader, but I enjoyed the format. Even more I was enjoyably surprised at the content. I guess I was expecting a sort of retelling or analysis of "Alice," of which I am a huge fan, but this is more of a history book, with little historical tidbits of Lewis Carroll, Alice Liddell and the Alice books thrown in. Talbot...more

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Dec 08, 2008 Valerie Sasaki rated it 4 of 5 stars

Recommended to Valerie by: Oregonian Newspaper

This is such an interesting book. I don't know that I've ever read a graphic novel like this. It talks about the British town of Sunderland and the origins of Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland. It is a little like Murakami's Magical realism - certainly surrealist at the least - even as it walks you through the human history of the area and the various influences on Carroll (along with a fair amount of de-mythologizing!).

I was surprised at how slowly I read this book - only 200 pages yesterday...more

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Jan 16, 2009 Meri rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novels

I picked this one up expecting an easy read I could finish in a night or two, and definitely didn't get what I expected! Alice in Sunderland is broad in scope, but incredibly well done. I've never read a graphic novel--or any book, now that I think of it--quite like it. In part a history lesson about Sunderland, the surrounding areas, and the people who populate it, tied to stories about Lewis Carroll and the creation and growth of Alice in Wonderland, and punctuated with various philosophical m...more

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Oct 23, 2011 Jennifer rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: read-graphic-novels

This is a non-linear history of the British city of Sunderland, as well as a rumination on the brevity of life.

It reads as though you have fallen into a dream world like Wonderland. It jumps from the past to the present and back and forth again and again as it looks at Sunderland's conquerors, heroes, artists, writers, inventors, and more.

Did you know Thomas Edison did not invent the first working light bulb? Joseph Swan of Sunderland did. Yep.

I also found the section about the current art inst...more

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Dec 14, 2011 Poonam added it

Shelves: library

A history of Sunderland that in itself involves telling of story of invasions of Britain by Celts, Romans, Saxons, Vikings and most brutal of all - the Normans. It lists trivia and achievements of antecedents of Mackham (people of Sunderland). By and large, this was also the place where Lewis Caroll's muse Alice Liddel lived and how story of 'Alice in Wonderland' evolved.

So far a very interesting read - it tells the truth about death of Sidney James onstage. Henry Irving ---

Graphic style is unc...more

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Apr 17, 2011 Jen rated it 2 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novel

eh. I finished it. I had to push myself though. I really do love all things "Alice in Wonderland" and have read the Annotated Alice as well. Unfortunately, while this graphic novel is WELL researched, the bits and pieces the author pull together are slightly uninteresting. Yes, it is curious who settled the land the would become Lewis Carrol's home, but not in the detail that Bryan Talbot so laboriously provides. This book ends up being equal parts history, trivia, and politics. In the end, the...more

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Feb 02, 2009 Stig rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: comics

A magnificent tour-de-force, detailing the history of the Northern English town of Sunderland and the ties between North East England and Lewis Carroll/Alice in Wonderland. While technically a "graphic novel", this book is so much more than just that. Well researched, with a firm grip of the individual's place in a wider historical context, artistically bold and experimenting - and also the only book I can recall where the use of the historical present tense doesn't come across as annoying or pr...more

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Dec 04, 2011 Autumn rated it 4 of 5 stars

I am a huge fan of Lewis Carroll and his "Alice" works, so when I heard we were reading this book in my contemp. British Lit course at my university, I was very intrigued! This was my first graphic novel, and I have to say I really enjoyed it! I really enjoyed the quality of the pictures and the different varieties of pictures from comic-esq to photoshopped photos; it was very impressive. Even though I give the book four stars, I do have to say that the images portrayed in the book and the prose...more

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Feb 14, 2010 Jake Forbes rated it 5 of 5 stars

However the new Tim Burton adaptation of Alice turns out, I have it to thank for reminding me about this book. Only tangentially about Carrol's book, Sunderland is the biography of a place that spins a web of coincidences that bind it together as history and myth. It's also an amazing use of the comics medium, with Talbot blending B&W drawings, painting, collage and fumetti to tell his very meta tale. The closest thing to it I've encountered in book form would be Scott McCloud's Understandin...more

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Oct 30, 2012 Jason Bergman rated it 3 of 5 stars

A good, if scatterbrained book. It's impeccably researched, and very well drawn, which I have come to expect from the very talented Bryan Talbot. But it really doesn't have any narrative. It's more or less a walking tour of Sunderland, tying its history to that of Lewis Carroll and Alice. Except it has many diversions, some more interesting than others. I enjoyed Alice in Sunderland, but it was a slog from time to time as Talbot went off on another tangent. If you're willing to put yourself in T...more

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Mar 23, 2010 Bill rated it 5 of 5 stars

This is the second graphic novel by Bryan Talbot that I have read. The first was The Tale of One Bad Rat, which I enjoyed thoroughly. Alice in Sunderland is a tour de force (I looked it up and this is one) of the graphic novel genre. Using a collage of Talbot's drawings and photos, strewn about the page, Alice will tell you about the seaport town in Yorkshire, England, where many remarkable people lived and created, if you stay with it.

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Mar 26, 2013 Justin rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novels, history

This is a strange book. A good book, but strange.

Alice in Sunderland is Talbot’s sprawling paean to his home region of Sunderland, England, with specific attention to its association with Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (better known as Alice in Wonderland author Lewis Carroll). The story takes shape as a surreal stage show being offered for the benefit of a lone, philistine patron, but it is almost impossible to succinctly summarize; it folds in on itself over and over, jumping around chronologically...more This is a strange book. A good book, but strange.

Alice in Sunderland is Talbot’s sprawling paean to his home region of Sunderland, England, with specific attention to its association with Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (better known as Alice in Wonderland author Lewis Carroll). The story takes shape as a surreal stage show being offered for the benefit of a lone, philistine patron, but it is almost impossible to succinctly summarize; it folds in on itself over and over, jumping around chronologically and proceeding in bizarre segues from one narrator to the next. The resulting book plays out like a jumbled pastiche of Sunderland’s history, celebrating both well-known and obscure landmarks, and leaving the reader with a lingering question of how much of it is really history, how much is mythology, and how much is an elaborate joke.

The artwork is truly striking. Talbot mixes his own illustrations with manipulated photography to create a wonderland of his own, and occasionally will veer off into unpredictable stylistic directions in order to complement a particular historical vignette. The panels are sprawling, often splashing across both sizable pages and rife with little details. It’s beautiful and often overwhelming, but miraculously, never confusing (outside of the book’s general air of confusion, of course).

From a reader’s standpoint, I found this a bit esoteric. I don’t know anything about Sunderland and am only passingly familiar with Carroll, so most of my enjoyment came from the regional folk tales and historical tidbits that Talbot spins off over the course of the comic. I was often diverted, especially when heading off to research the veracity of what I was reading, but as a whole I wasn’t entirely engaged.

That’s certainly not a comment on the book’s quality, though. Alice in Sunderland is quite an achievement. It’s worth reading simply for the fever dream art, and it’s definitely a good choice for readers like me who have a soft spot for historical trivia. (less)

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Feb 14, 2013 Sesana rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: comics, history

What a strange, ambitious book. The idea presented on the cover is that Talbot will be writing about the various influences Sunderland had on the Alice books. And that happens, sure. But really, the book is far more concerned with presenting a rambling history of Sunderland itself, only occassionally going back to what is meant to be the main topic. I got the impression that Talbot was originally inspired by Alice, and became absorbed in the history of Sunderland. And it is interesting, at least...more

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Feb 28, 2012 Bethan rated it 1 of 5 stars

Shelves: graphic-novels

Just didn't like it. It was weird, like a boring history lesson cluttered with facts. I was not interested in these facts because I knew much of it already, so I felt patronised, and because it lacked much commentary or a point to it that I could see, for relevance. Perhaps it meant to convey how real life is much like a confused and strange Wonderland itself but it didn't speak to me. If I had written a history essay simply presenting the facts, however true, I would have got a D or an E for it...more

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About Bryan Talbot

Talbot began his comics work in the underground comix scene of the late 1960s. In 1969 his first work appeared as illustrations in Mallorn, the British Tolkien Society magazine, followed in 1972 by a weekly strip in his college newspaper.

He continued in the scene after leaving college, producing Brainstorm Comix, the first three of which formed The Chester P. Hackenbush Trilogy (a character rework...more Talbot began his comics work in the underground comix scene of the late 1960s. In 1969 his first work appeared as illustrations in Mallorn, the British Tolkien Society magazine, followed in 1972 by a weekly strip in his college newspaper.

He continued in the scene after leaving college, producing Brainstorm Comix, the first three of which formed The Chester P. Hackenbush Trilogy (a character reworked by Alan Moore as Chester Williams for Swamp Thing).

He started The Adventures of Luther Arkwright in 1978. It was originally published in Near Myths and continued on over the years in other publications. It was eventually collected together into one volume by Dark Horse. Along with When the Wind Blows it is one of the first British graphic novels.

In the early to mid-eighties he provide art for some of 2000 AD's flagship serials, producing 3 series of Nemesis the Warlock, as well as strips for Judge Dredd and Sláine.

The Tale of One Bad Rat deals with recovery from childhood sexual abuse.

Talbot moved to the American market in the 1990s, principally for DC, on titles like Hellblazer, Sandman and Batman. He also produced the art for The Nazz by Tom Veitch and worked with Tom's brother Rick Veitch on Teknophage, one of a number of mini-series he drew for Tekno Comix.

Talbot has illustrated cards for the Magic: The Gathering collectible card game.

He has also illustrated Bill Willingham's Fables, as well as returning to the Luther Arkwright universe with Heart of Empire. He has also worked on The Dead Boy Detectives.

In 2006, he announced the graphic novel Metronome, an existential, textless erotically-charged visual poem,written under the pseudonym Véronique Tanaka. He admitted that he was the author in 2009.

In 2007 he released Alice in Sunderland, which documents the connections between Lewis Carroll, Alice Liddell, and the Sunderland and Wearside area. He also wrote and drew the layouts for Cherubs!, which he describes as "an irreverent fast-paced supernatural comedy-adventure."

His upcoming work includes a sequel to 2009's Grandville, which Talbot says is "a detective steampunk thriller" and Paul Gravett calls it "an inspired reimagining of some of the first French anthropomorphic caricatures". It is planned as the first in a series of four or five graphic novels.

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