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Life and Fate (Stalingrad #2)

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A book judged so dangerous in the Soviet Union that not only the manuscript but the ribbons on which it had been typed were confiscated by the state, Life and Fate is an epic tale of World War II and a profound reckoning with the dark forces that dominated the twentieth century.

Interweaving a transfixing account of the battle of Stalingrad with the story of a single middl
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Paperback, 896 pages
Published May 16th 2006 by NYRB Classics (first published 1980)
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Hendrik Mentz Possibly it was part of the BBC Radio 4 series that ran in 2011, accessible via Amazon as: 'Life and Fate: The Complete Series (Dramatised) Audio…morePossibly it was part of the BBC Radio 4 series that ran in 2011, accessible via Amazon as: 'Life and Fate: The Complete Series (Dramatised) Audio Download – Original recording' >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Life-Fate-Com... | Hopefully the URL I copy and pasted displayed and/or is alive.(less)
Robert I agree entirely with James. I read the book as a stand alone and was very captivated by it. After talking with some folks about the book. The…moreI agree entirely with James. I read the book as a stand alone and was very captivated by it. After talking with some folks about the book. The charecters althou having the same name do have very different mannerisms when comparing the books. After Stalins death, Grossman was not afraid to feel free to be honest about the Stalinist State in Life and Fate. While in his previous books he felt pressured by the state underwhich he wrote his novels.(less)

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Michael
May 21, 2013 Michael rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Michael by: William Beavers
I have to use the “M” word for this panoramic portrayal of the Soviet experience of World War 2—masterpiece. I was moved and uplifted, enlightened and devastated, and ultimately made into a better person wit more empathy and understanding of the human condition.

This is an insider’s view, as is made clear by the wonderful background provided by the translator, Robert Chandler. Grossman was a Ukrainian Jew who studied chemistry in his youth, became a novelist with the support of Gorky, and with t
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William1
Mar 24, 2011 William1 rated it really liked it
When I first learned that Vasily Grossman's model for this novel was War and Peace, I thought he was setting his sights astronomically--not to say unattainably--high. There are huge differences between the two books, of course. Remember Tolstoy's lovely modulated long sentences? Grossman doesn't even try to compete on that level. By contrast, his language tends toward the so-called "Soviet" realism of the day. This was a style in which many of the Party hacks also wrote. The difference between ...more
Szplug
Nov 08, 2009 Szplug rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
When you consider the steps that had to be taken to smuggle this novel out of the Soviet Union, painstakingly photographed page by page on microfilm, you cannot but marvel at the determination and effort made by believers in the power of the written word to bring such important stories to light. This epic novel is, along with Victor Serge's stunning masterwork Unforgiving Years , the best fictional depiction I've read of the barbaric inhumanity of the Soviet experience in the Second World War a ...more
Anastasia Fitzgerald-Beaumont
What an astonishing book Life and Fate is; what an astonishing man Vasily Grossman must have been. I’ve already written a partial assessment of this literary masterpiece on my Ana the Imp blog, a post I headed The Grand Inquisitor, which focused on the contents of a single chapter, one I had just finished, one that literally winded me, both intellectually and emotionally. Well, now I’ve finished the whole novel and it captivated me from beginning to end; captivated me with its intensity, its ran ...more
Megan Baxter
Nov 01, 2011 Megan Baxter rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This is a huge sprawling novel, centred around the battle of Stalingrad, but weaving in and out and incorporating the Holocaust, the Soviet detention centres, Soviet science under Stalin, life at the front, life at home, and the nature of freedom and humanity. (And I found Grossman's musings on the latter two more readable than Tolstoy's long philosophical digressions, to be perfectly honest.)

Note: The rest of this review has been withdrawn due to the recent changes in Goodreads policy and enfor
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Paul
Aug 24, 2014 Paul rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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A monumental novel in the Great Russian tradition which has been rightly compared with War and Peace. It focuses on the Battle of Stalingrad, but covers a Science Institute, various prison camps and a concentration camp. The list of characters is vast and the dramatis personae in my edition was well used.
Grossman was a journalist who covered the Battle of Stalingrad from the front line and his experience shows. However this is, like War and Peace, very much not just a war novel. Its scope is br
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orsodimondo
Oct 01, 2012 orsodimondo rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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QUI SI SCRIVE, NON SI VA A ZONZO
Così avrebbe detto Tolstoj se avesse potuto leggere Vita e destino.
Qui non si va a zonzo, sono pagine con peso specifico, importanti.
Da anni, molti, non leggevo un libro così.

Così bello, così denso, così esigente, così ricco.
Arrivato a metà, ho istintivamente rallentato, per non finirlo troppo presto, per gustarlo a fondo, distillarlo. Quando l’ho chiuso per l’ultima volta, ho deciso di tenerlo ancora sul comodino, di non metterlo subito via sullo scaffale, di n
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Fionnuala
Having read War and Peace a couple of months ago in which Tolstoy pointed out already in the mid nineteenth century the role of accident and fate in the success of military campaigns, thus underlining their futility, I wondered how any European leader could ever have embarked on another takeover knowing the outcome of Napoleon's campaigns. But of course there was WWI and WWII as if nothing had been learned about trusting Emperor style dictators driven by monstrous personal ambition; after Napole ...more
David Lentz
Jun 11, 2011 David Lentz rated it it was amazing
This masterpiece published by New York Review of Books Classics enters my Top 5 among novels by James Joyce (Ulysses), Proust (La Recherche du Temps Perdu), Tolstoy (War and Peace) and Gaddis (JR): it is pure genius in its epic scope. Inspired by Tolstoy's War and Peace and the siege of Russia by Napoleon, Grossman depicts the siege of Stalingrad by Hitler. Grossman narrates the epic from the perspectives of diverse players into whose lives the reader becomes immersed. The cast is vast and the R ...more
Tony
Jan 23, 2012 Tony rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
The worst reviews, in my humble opinion, are those that begin with this sentence: I really wanted to like this book? Oh? This confounds me? Who starts to read a book that they hope they will not like? Do people really open books they hope will appall them, torture them with typos and improbable plots, confuse them with experimental mazes of style and drown them in gibberish? Isn't every book we start one we hope will be the greatest ever? What kind of twisted reader DOESN'T WANT TO LIKE A BOOK?

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julieta
Sin duda es uno de los libros más hermosos que he leído en mi vida. Cuando uno se pregunta, (de vez en cuando) por qué leer? Bueno, para encontrarte con libros como este.

Es sobre la batalla por Stalingrado, entre el Ejército Rojo (rusos) y el Aleman, en la segunda guerra mundial. Y muestra a distintos personajes que han sido afectados por esta guerra. Pero es más que eso, es que el autor tiene una empatía, un nivel de comprensión de cada una de las personas en distintas situaciones. Es como si
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4triplezed
Life and Fate. The perfect title for an astonishingly good book.

I am going to call Life and Fate a masterpiece. Yes it is as good as the reviews I have just read say it is. On a personal level it is a long time since I have had an emotional involvement with the characters of a novel. Les Misérables maybe? Though a large cast the life and fate of the protagonists at the time of the battle for Stalingrad made powerful and compelling reading.

My copy is the Vintage edition 2006. It has an introduc
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Ahmad Sharabiani
Жизнь и судьба = Zhizn i sadba = Life and Fate: a novel (Stalingrad #2), Vasily Grossman
عنوان: زندگی و سرنوشت؛ نویسنده: واسیلی گروسمن؛ مترجم: سروش حبیبی؛ ویراستار: سرز استپانیان؛ تهران، سروش، 1377؛ در 919 ص؛ شابک: 9644353102؛ چاپ دیگر: تهران، نیلوفر، 1386؛ شابک: 9789644483660؛ برگردان از متن انگلیسی؛ موضوع: داستانهای نویسندگان روسیه - قرن 20 م
واسیلی گروسمن در آغاز حمله ی آرتش آلمان نازی به روسیه، در سال 1941 میلادی، به عنوان خبرنگار جنگی در نبرد حضور داشتند. ایشان در حمله ی نازیها مادر نازنین خو
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Jonfaith
May 18, 2010 Jonfaith rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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This review was constructed while drinking. Pub Guinness veered into Sierra Nevada Torpedo at home. Yo La Tengo kept pushing immediate questions: why not, why not? Why isn't Life and Fate a fucking rock star on goodreads?

Apparently such matters don't work in translation, well, unless it is Murakami or Bolano. I do find that rather akimbo, disjointed silences on germans and russians while YAs run amok. I did note that TWO of my coworkers are reading 50 Shades.

No, the novel isn't a streamlined ma
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Vit Babenco
Aug 04, 2016 Vit Babenco rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Life and Fate is an epical and panoramic canvas meticulously portraying the whole pivotal period in the life and fate of a man, people, countries and the entire world.
“The intuition of a deafened and isolated soldier often turns out to be nearer the truth than judgements delivered by staff officers as they study the map.
An extraordinary change takes place at the turning-point in a battle: a soldier looks round, after apparently gaining his objective, and suddenly finds he has lost sight of his c
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Sandra
Sep 01, 2012 Sandra rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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In questo romanzo fiume sono narrati il destino della grande madre Russia e le vite di tanti suoi cittadini, tutti segnati dai combattimenti durissimi che si svolsero a Stalingrado, lungo le rive del Volga, dall’estate del 1942 al febbraio del 1943, tra i soldati dell’Armata Rossa e l’esercito nazista, passati alla storia come “la battaglia di Stalingrado”. Da quel momento, con la vittoria sofferta dell’esercito sovietico, non solo il destino della seconda guerra mondiale ebbe una svolta, inizia ...more
Maru Kun
The past, as they say, is a foreign country and also a more literate one. The USSR in the first half of the twentieth century was a place where a father would worry about which poets were read by his daughter’s boyfriend, a place where you might still love someone despite their inability to distinguish Balzac from Flaubert and where a soldier on the front line of one of the most dreadful military conflicts in history would complain that their comrade-in-arms did not properly understand Chekov.

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Ray
Dec 31, 2012 Ray rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fiction
I really liked this book

It is softer and less ideological than other Soviet literature I have read from this time - I can certainly see why it was banned

It uses the backdrop of the battle of Stalingrad to explore the interlinked lives of an extended family and the people they come into contact with

There are parallels with War and Peace which I am sure was the authors intention

Warning - a bit of a brick at 850+ pages - not a quick read
Bruno
Jan 18, 2016 Bruno rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
A lettura terminata sono andato a ripescare il mio libro di storia del liceo per verificare quanto effettivamente dicesse sulla battaglia di Stalingrado. Questo è quanto ho trovato:

In agosto i tedeschi iniziarono l'assedio di Stalingrado, sul Volga, punto nodale della difesa russa nel settore sud-est e città simbolo che portava il nome di Stalin. Nel novembre '42, dopo mesi di durissimi combattimenti, strada per strada, casa per casa, i sovietici contrattaccarono efficacemente sui fianchi dello
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Francisco
Dec 28, 2007 Francisco rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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¿Cómo calificar esta novela? Mastodóntica, brutal, cruel, maravillosa, delicada, con la vida latiendo en cada una de sus páginas.
Retrato de un tiempo cruel, en el que el pálido reflejo de dos sistemas crudelísimos se enfrentan por una hegemonía violenta sobre el mundo, y en el que una multitud de personajes se enfrenta a sus miedos, sus ambiciones, sus deseos, la vida y la muerte.
De verdad, es magistral. Y cuando se conoce la historia de la publicación de la novela, se nos hace más grande todaví
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Paolo
Mar 10, 2014 Paolo rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Chiedo il permesso a Piperitapitta di utilizzare la sua immagine - efficacissima - del foro nel vetro e della ramificazione delle fratture.

Quanto lontano arrivano quelle crepe e quanto grande è il vetro del "foro - Stalingrado" ?

Arrivano di sicuro fino a noi e fino ad oggi, che ne siamo consapevoli o no.

Buona parte della grandezza di Vita e Destino consiste nel farci comprendere in maniera profonda e definitiva l'importanza storica della vittoria di Stalingrado per le sorti della seconda guerra,
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Cosimo
Jul 24, 2015 Cosimo rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Figli del passato

“Perché le loro sorti erano così ingarbugliate, così oscure?”

Questo libro uscì dai confini dell'Unione sovietica in pagine microfilmate contenute in una scatola trasportata da una ricercatrice austriaca vicina agli ambienti dei dissidenti e degli oppositori al regime; il manoscritto su cui Vassilij Grossman aveva lavorato dieci anni era stato infatti sequestrato dalla polizia politica di Cruscev e condannato perché antisovietico all'esilio in patria, alla cancellazione permanent
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Kyoukek
Mar 16, 2017 Kyoukek added it
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Rarely have I felt when finishing a book I've closed a page on history. What a wonder it is to have Grossman tell us of history! When Hugo told of Waterloo I thought it would be a delight for him to apply his pen to illuminate other events in the world and I feel the same for Grossman. Yes, he supposedly tells of "just" one event in history, as if quantifying the event as "just Stalingrad" would do it any more justice like how Hugo wrote about "just Waterloo." But no, it's not a history lesson i ...more
John
Dec 12, 2011 John rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Well, I couldn't take any more of John Keay's "dynastic kaleidoscope," for the moment at least. I closed his "China: A History" after reading a paragraph on the succession of four "dynasties," i.e. claimants of the Mandate of Heaven, in northern China in the fifth or sixth century AD over the course of one year.
So what do I do? It's back to the Eastern Front of WWII - this time with Vasily Grossmann's "Life and Fate," a fully engaging novel, of which I read very few. Stalingrad - now that was a
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Philippe Malzieu
Literature and poetry are part of Russian DNA. We can be astonished not to have the great Russian novel on the Second World War. However the matter exists and obviously Stalingrad. The answer is rather simple: the Stalinist purgings killed or exiled much writers. The Second World War finished the work.
When we think of the Russian literature after WWII, we have either poor socialist realistic account, or novel on Gulag. However, the great novel on this period exists , it is this one.
It was a lege
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Helen
Nov 13, 2011 Helen rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
If you are interested in the history of the 20th Century, Life and Fate is a necessary read. A tapestry of World War II Russia, it weaves together story lines that take place in Stalingrad, in prison camps, on battlefields, on airfields, in big cities and small towns. The cast of characters, including imprisoned generals, political hacks, young and middle-aged lovers, Jews terrified of both the Nazis and the growing anti-Semitism in their own society, courageous old women and frightened soldiers ...more
Simona
Nov 03, 2013 Simona rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
"Vita e destino" è uno di quei libri che non si dimenticano facilmente, che ti entrano dentro, ti scorticano la pelle fino a sanguinarla e farti male lasciandoti a pezzi sperando che qualcuno ti raccolga.
E' un romanzo difficile, una riflessione amara, dolorosa sul male e le sue conseguenze.
Grossman analizza in maniera attenta, precisa, dettagliata la battaglia di Stalingrado, il periodo della lotta al totalitarismo e al nazismo.
Durante la lettura, il lettore vive con i personaggi la vita del l
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david
Sep 11, 2014 david rated it it was amazing
A modern gem out of the Soviet Union by a very qualified journalist. There is texture and truth in it that a student of this part of the world may not want to miss.
Giovanna
May 04, 2015 Giovanna rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Era strano percorrere quel corridoio dritto come un fuso mentre la sua vita era così contorta, un intrico di sentieri, fossi, paludi, ruscelli, polvere della steppa e grano non trebbiato da scansare o attraversare... Il destino, invece, era lineare, dritto, fatto di corridoi e di porte...

Comincio dalla fine (tranquilli, niente spoiler): 1960. È la data posta a conclusione del romanzo, quella che ci dice in che anno questa poderosa opera è stata conclusa. È una data che attesta tutto il coraggio
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Zina
Sep 19, 2011 Zina rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
In a way it's silly putting stars on a book like this - a book that was arrested, whose author never saw it published, and which is now, once again, persona non grata in Russia because Stalin is being rehabilitated. Nobody who is a Goodreads member can have had to make the decisions facing Grossman's characters, deal with the moral compromises, the equivocations, the desperate need to survive, all the while second guessing who might prevail next, who might be an ally, who should be supported and ...more
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Born Iosif Solomonovich Grossman into an emancipated Jewish family, he did not receive a traditional Jewish education. A Russian nanny turned his name Yossya into Russian Vasya (a diminutive of Vasily), which was accepted by the whole family. His father had social-democratic convictions and joined the Mensheviks. Young Vasily Grossman idealistically supported the Russian Revo
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