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Going Dutch: How England Plundered Holland's Glory

3.46 of 5 stars 3.46  ·  rating details  ·  143 ratings  ·  23 reviews
An exploration of the relationship of competition and assimilation between England and the Netherlands during the 17th century, revealing how Dutch tolerance, resilience and commercial acumen effectively conquered England by permanently reshaping the intellectual landscape long before Dutch monarchs sat on the English throne.
Paperback, 406 pages
Published May 1st 2010 by Harper Perennial (first published 2008)
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Chris
When one thinks about the term conquest with England or Britain, the first thing that springs to mind is the Norman Conquest, not the Glorious Revolution. In part, Jardine tries to answer the question of why it wasn’t considered a conquest.
The opening chapters in this book are the strongest. Even though the focus is on the elites, the breakdown of the elite ties between the Netherlands and Britain is well thought out. However, the book weakens slightly and the reader is left wondering why Jardi
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Robt.
The subject matter of this book was quite interesting to me, but as an example of historical writing I was disappointed. Even in the paperback edition, the book is larded with color illustrations of 17th-century art, and I'm impressed with the publisher's commitment to the project (and/or Jardine's ability to get the publisher to go along with this), but Jardine really doesn't do much with this material. Often she uses period paintings merely as pictures of individuals named in the text, and whe ...more
Courtney Johnston
The best of Lisa Jardine's books that I read so far. A fascinating account of the flow of knowledge, information, economic systems, art, poetry, music, wealth, garden design and royalty between England and Holland in the 1600s.

Has left me with the desire to do even more reading in this area, and about 5 books added to my reading list.
Lauren Albert
A strange book. Jardine starts by trying to get the reader to see how odd the "Glorious Revolution" was (Dutch soldiers in London, etc.). Then, she spends the rest of the book showing us why it wasn't so odd after all. She shows how much overlap there was between the two countries (horticulture, science, etc.) even during periods of war between them. What would have made the argument more convincing and more interesting is if she had compared this relationship to that of the British with other E ...more
Shawn Davies
This handsome book starts off with an excellent chapter on the Dutch version of the Glorious Revolution of 1688, when we kind of invited William of Orange to be our king and he arrived at the head of an enormous Armada and landed at Torbay in Devon, where he landed unopposed and was met with a curious crowd of children all smoking pipes. He then began a slow progress to London, stopping at the homes of English aristocrats with famous gardens on the way.

This is a riveting opening narrative Histor
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The Book Queen
I never read non-fiction, but when I was going through a period where I was very interested in the Glorious Revolution I picked this book up. And it was very, very good. Jardine has clearly done her research; the level of detail is astonishing and she definitely knows her stuff. The chapters on the politics and the relations between the two royal families were my favourites as I'm interested in those two areas, but the chapters on science and finance were a bit dull. Be warned: she does go off o ...more
Dale
I hate to say it - its a rather sad discovery, but I just lost interest entirely two-thirds thru. It started briskly enough with the political, military and religious aspects setting the scene, but then we just got bogged down in endless detail. I know that endless detail is the whole point of the book - the deep cultural relationship between the Dutch and English worlds. Its why I brought the book I acknowledge, but when the gaze hit the page I just couldn't be bothered. Its sad because I loved ...more
John
This is a very interesting book. On the positive side, I appreciate Jardine's effort to describe the social, artistic, familial, and scientific links between the 17th century Dutch and English. She does this well. She paints a clear and interesting picture of the glorious revolution and tensions, religious and otherwise, between royal factions and pretenders. I wish, though, she'd spent a little more time on the broader context: international conflict and the English civil war. Her assumption ma ...more
Harry Rutherford
Full, slightly overblown title: Going Dutch: How England Plundered Holland’s Glory. This is a book about the relationship between England and Holland in the C17th. It’s an interesting period, of course: the C17th was Holland’s ‘Golden Age’, when the country was not only a wealthy global power but at the intellectual and especially artistic forefront of Europe. For me, the art is especially remarkable: there are three of the all-time greats in Rembrandt, Rubens and Vermeer, and a huge number of o ...more
Nick Jones
This started really interestingly, with an account of the Dutch invasion of 1688 which completely changed my perception of that event. Most historians make it send as though William turned up with a couple of fishing boats and a few horsemen, whereas it was 500 warships and 40,000 soldiers, mostly Dutch. The question she sets is essentially the one of why is it that the fact of military conquest has slipped the English national memory.

Sadly, I'm not sure she really ever answers the question. She
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Caro
Conversations between Dutch and English artists and art collectors, scientists and gardeners went on throughout the 17th century, regardless of whether the Dutch were invading England (the Glorious Revolution) or the countries were at war. The first chapters are particularly interesting, but Jardine's two later chapters championing Robert Hooke, while admirable, go on for far too long. Constantine Huygens and his family are, of course, everywhere.
Karen
Really liked the start of this and the topic was an interesting one but I found it dragged in bits and was a tad boring, particularly in the chapter where we were told who bought which picture from who. Slightly disappointed as I usually really like Lisa Jardine's books, so it's more of a 2 1/2 or a 2 3/4 than a 3 really.
Nancy Wu
Chapters 1 and 12 were the good ones in this book.

Chapters 2-8 are meandering histories consisting of art history minutiae and plutocrat semi-biographies. I found the main historical events to be repetitive and had to struggle to find something interesting as I fast forwarded through these chapters. Personally, I thought these chapters were completely uninteresting and irrelevant to the theme of the book. I feel this subject and timeline were just too narrow to fill up a book, but should be sav
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Singleton Mosby
I had high expectations of this book. The more as I know barely anything about Dutch history (apart from that learned at school) and hoped to lear a lot from this book about a very interesting period.

Well, I didn't. Not only was the book rather 'messy' in its red-line, the historical background was very vague and it wasn't all that interesting to me unfortunately. The thing which put me off most about it however was the constant appearance of Huyghens. Had I wanted to read a whole book about hi
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Myla
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Yvonne
I loved this book although it was quite a heavy read. Jardine's research is formidable and makes for fascinating detail about an extremely interesting period of history. I had no idea of the extent of the cultural (and scientific) interaction between the English and the Dutch in the 17th century even though, as a South African, I am aware of what the Dutch brought to my country. Beautifully written and illustrated. It was enthralling.
Alex
Different chapters about the political, artistic, financial, and scientific exchanges between England Holland in the 17th Century. Each chapter was hit or miss. Liked the chapter on political exchanges, but some of the chapters detailing sales of art going back and forth were pretty tedious except for he most devout art curator. Same with the chapters about English gardens.
Corrina
Loved this, it was fascinating. I especially liked the different profiles within the Huygens family. All in all, it didn't have the same "spark" as Worldly Goods or Ingenious Pursuits, but very enjoyable read. This period of history is so interesting and as always, Ms. Jardine adds to the writings about it with her usual scholarship and context.
Noel
A revisionist history of the so called Glorious Revolution of 1688 showing how indebted the English are in so many ways to the Dutch. The Dutch conquered England culturally in many ways long before William's invasion. They gave the British and thus much of the western world much of that we consider modern from finance to the family.
Douglas
This beautifully illustrated book documents the intertwining of the English and Dutch elites in their love of art, music, gardening, science and medicine (irrespective of trading competition where the English learnt much re commerce and banking from the Dutch) prior to the Dutch conquest of England in 1688.
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It's a big book with LOADS of info. I had to take a break from it. It can be a bit overwhelming at times but it is very interesting so far.

Had to take a break from this one.......it's insanely detailed.



Gaile
A history of Holland and England during the time Of William Of Orange beginning in 1617 and ending around 1670.
Xdw
Better title: English-Dutch art, architecture, science, and gardening interactions in the 17th century
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Lisa Anne Bronowski (Jardine) is a British historian of the early modern period. From 1990 to 2011 she was Centenary Professor of Renaissance Studies and Director of the Centre for Editing Lives and Letters at Queen Mary, University of London. Since 2008 she has been Chair of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA).[1] She was a Member of Council of the Royal Institution, but resig ...more
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