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Sometimes a Great Notion
by
Ken Kesey
The magnificent second novel from the legendary author of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest...
Following the astonishing success of his first novel, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Ken Kesey wrote what Charles Bowden calls "one of the few essential books written by an American in the last half century." This wild-spirited tale tells of a bitter strike that rages through a...more
Following the astonishing success of his first novel, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Ken Kesey wrote what Charles Bowden calls "one of the few essential books written by an American in the last half century." This wild-spirited tale tells of a bitter strike that rages through a...more
Paperback, 640 pages
Published
July 28th 1977
by Penguin Books
(first published 1964)
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Jun 15, 2011
oriana
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
phenomenal,
read-2008
after reading: Oh my. Oh my goodness what an incredible book. Absolutely stunning.
Sometimes A Great Notion (which, btw, gets its title from the Ledbelly song "Goodnight Irene") is the story of the Stamper family, renegade loggers in Oregon in maybe the fifties. It's an incredible family—Henry, the patriarch, the crazed, stubborn old goat who started the logging business; his son Hank (stoic, serious, earnest, proud, charming) and Hank's cousin Joe Ben (brimming with enthusiasm and joy and good...more
Sometimes A Great Notion (which, btw, gets its title from the Ledbelly song "Goodnight Irene") is the story of the Stamper family, renegade loggers in Oregon in maybe the fifties. It's an incredible family—Henry, the patriarch, the crazed, stubborn old goat who started the logging business; his son Hank (stoic, serious, earnest, proud, charming) and Hank's cousin Joe Ben (brimming with enthusiasm and joy and good...more
This book took me quite a while to get into, but once I did, I liked it a lot.
You know how George R.R. Martin changes narrative voices between chapters? Well, this book does that, but within paragraphs. In the first hundred pages, there were a few paragraphs that had, internally, four different perspectives. And I thought, what have I gotten myself into? Is this pretentious? Is it precious?
And more to the point, can I put up with this for 700 pages?
But I stuck it out, and once I got into the r...more
You know how George R.R. Martin changes narrative voices between chapters? Well, this book does that, but within paragraphs. In the first hundred pages, there were a few paragraphs that had, internally, four different perspectives. And I thought, what have I gotten myself into? Is this pretentious? Is it precious?
And more to the point, can I put up with this for 700 pages?
But I stuck it out, and once I got into the r...more
I didn’t want to read this one. Its long. Its by some acidhead hippie. Its only famous because Kesey is famous. He has fans because of his lifestyle, not his literary merit. Its about a group of loggers on strike? Ugh, sounds boring. But I gave it a shot and was blown away….
The storyline didn’t grab me right away but Kesey’s writing did. He had talent and this book is creatively ambitious. Every character has a turn at first person voice and the speaker can switch several times, sometimes even w...more
The storyline didn’t grab me right away but Kesey’s writing did. He had talent and this book is creatively ambitious. Every character has a turn at first person voice and the speaker can switch several times, sometimes even w...more
I had picked up and put down this book so many times, trying, without success, to make it through the first 100 pages. It was only until a co-worker and i decided to form a "one-off" book club in order to read it before a theater adaptation by a local company that i made any real progress. even with a clearly defined reason in hand, the first 100 pages can be taxing; it's best to read slowly, savoring the flavor of the words even if you can't quite grasp all the meanings. however, hang on becaus...more
Jul 02, 2007
AnnaRebecca Crary
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
everyone unafraid of a little dense prose
If V. Woolf had
a) grown up within sight of the Coastal Range, and
b) enormous, swinging testes,
then this book would be sold in a 3-pack with "Mrs Dalloway" and "The Waves" today. It's such literatoor, but it's so masculine and so blue-collar also. God I love it. The beautiful, funny slang; the creepy, right-on descriptions of the menacing landscape... It's got man vs. land and man vs. man. Who could ask for anything more?
a) grown up within sight of the Coastal Range, and
b) enormous, swinging testes,
then this book would be sold in a 3-pack with "Mrs Dalloway" and "The Waves" today. It's such literatoor, but it's so masculine and so blue-collar also. God I love it. The beautiful, funny slang; the creepy, right-on descriptions of the menacing landscape... It's got man vs. land and man vs. man. Who could ask for anything more?
So... I'm going to be 33 in April and I've read a lot of great books. I think I'm going to dedicate a huge chunk of this year into reading the most important books in my life. Sometimes a Great Notion is one of those books.
One can use words like "amazing" "enlightening" "sprawling" "heroic" and "pure" to describe this book but it barely gets at it. This book is why I read fiction. Along with other books like Infinite Jest, The Fountainhead, The Sirens of Titan, Bright Lights Big City, and Please...more
One can use words like "amazing" "enlightening" "sprawling" "heroic" and "pure" to describe this book but it barely gets at it. This book is why I read fiction. Along with other books like Infinite Jest, The Fountainhead, The Sirens of Titan, Bright Lights Big City, and Please...more
Hands down the most underappreciated American novel ever! I think it should be up there with "Moby Dick" "Grapes of Wrath" etc. In fact, I think it is better. it's hard to imagine Ken Kesey, hippy acid head that he was would be able to so write so poignantly and beautifully but he absolutely pulled it off, his other famous novel "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest" doesn't even hold a candle to "Sometimes a Great Notion" It's rather long and it is written in a "Faulkneresque" style where POV's switc...more
I hated this book for a long time. The opening is difficult to get through, and I needed to start reading it three times over the last few years just to build up enough momentum to get through it. No doubt about it, Sometimes a Great Notion is a difficult novel. But I also think it is a great novel. Once I got the hang of the stream of consciousness and how the narrator switches from character to character, I realized how worthy of a read this book is. And once I reached the middle of it I reali...more
Living in the Willamette Valley I had several occasions to see Ken Kesey -- in downtown Eugene, at the MacDonald Theater, and even at the Saturday Market. He enjoyed a local following that elevated him and his friends to an almost rock-star status. My husband had gone to high school with his son and described a Ken Kesey separate from the Merry Prankster charter member and that public persona.
One late spring afternoon, we were driving from Springfield towards Pleasant Hill, and came up on a big...more
One late spring afternoon, we were driving from Springfield towards Pleasant Hill, and came up on a big...more
Ken Kesey, Sometimes a Great Notion (Bantam Windstone, 1964)
I really, really wanted to like this book. An underread novel by an acknowledged American master of letters with a core of fans who consider it one of the best novels of the last century. What could be better? Well, to put it in as few words as possible, Kesey's writing style.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest works, and works so well, because it's tight. It's terse. It says what needs to be said. Kesey knows what he wants to say and says...more
I really, really wanted to like this book. An underread novel by an acknowledged American master of letters with a core of fans who consider it one of the best novels of the last century. What could be better? Well, to put it in as few words as possible, Kesey's writing style.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest works, and works so well, because it's tight. It's terse. It says what needs to be said. Kesey knows what he wants to say and says...more
Written in that no-nonsense way that great American writers do so well, that seems effortless yet still full of similes and all the other tricks of the trade. Like sitting around a campfire listening to an old-timer telling his life story, his face taking on the expressions of every character he describes, the darkness of night around the golden fire making you edge closer and closer, mouth gaping, eyes wide. Gave me the feeling I used to get watching The Waltons on a lazy Sunday in my youth.
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I live in the Northwest. My bookish friends have said to me, “What? You live in the Northwest and you’ve never read SOMETIMES A GREAT NOTION?!” Well now I have. The 628-page classic, written by Ken Kesey of the Merry Pranksters group, has become seared into my brain. Published in 1964, the plot revolves around the fictional Stamper logging family who reside along the Oregon coast.
The setting is the mid-1900s, when loyalty still meant something. The logging industry, as dangerous as ever, also fa...more
The setting is the mid-1900s, when loyalty still meant something. The logging industry, as dangerous as ever, also fa...more
You wouldn't believe me if I told you. Ken Kesey takes a family of Northwestern loggers, throws in some chainsaws, a drowning family of bobcats, a flood, a bible passage quoting sidekick, (who also drowns), and manages to glue it together with the artistic temperament of one character versus cuckoldry and a labor strike. It's like a big omelet.
The movie, of course, does little to transfer the raw power of Kesey's descriptive talent, nowhere more evident than the bar fight that highlights the no...more
The movie, of course, does little to transfer the raw power of Kesey's descriptive talent, nowhere more evident than the bar fight that highlights the no...more
Feb 04, 2008
Carolyn
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Lovers of rain
Recommended to Carolyn by:
Matt
Rain Rain Go Away.
This is a wet novel. Set in the rainy season in Oregon you get pruned fingers flipping through the pages. It's lovely. The writing is lovely. I was constantly thinking of turning down corners to mark passages only to turn the page and find something more beautifully written.
This can come off as a man's story at first, it's about loggers and brothers, sons and fathers, but I'm not a man and I was completely caught up from the middle to the end. (You have to be patient in the b...more
This is a wet novel. Set in the rainy season in Oregon you get pruned fingers flipping through the pages. It's lovely. The writing is lovely. I was constantly thinking of turning down corners to mark passages only to turn the page and find something more beautifully written.
This can come off as a man's story at first, it's about loggers and brothers, sons and fathers, but I'm not a man and I was completely caught up from the middle to the end. (You have to be patient in the b...more
Ken Kesey's great book is not for the faint of heart. It chronicles the lives of a logging family in the great Northwest. It is a gritty story of the complicated Stamper family and its fight to conquer adversaries as well as the tough grimy setting. In addition to providing an authentic picture of the rough and tumble setting, Kesey is a master of surprise and suspense. The motif is honest, and the characters are real, bursting off the page. Be careful - This book will leave a mark.
May 16, 2007
Joel Barnes
rated it
5 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
displaced children of the west / everyone
Shelves:
thisyear
A tale of revenge, jealousy, self-discovery, defiance, pride, community, independence and redemption; this book has it all. Whether you identify with the prodigal Leland, the stoic Hank, or the lost Viv, Kesey's emotionally charged but ultimately unbiased portrayal of the struggle of family vs community and family vs itself will exhilarate. Through seamless stream of consciousness(es) you begin to inhabit the hive-mind of the Oregon logging community. The motivations of even the most insignifica...more
Kesey's second novel tells the story of the Stamper family, a logging clan in the fictional Wakonda, Oregon continuing their logging work while the rest of the local industry strikes. Kesey focuses on Lee Stamper, the prodigal son who turned away from the family and their uproarious PNW boarishness to pursue Eastern intellectualism at an Ivy League university, but returns to his family with the hidden motivation of exacting revenge on his half brother Hank for engaging in forbidden congress with...more
Intricate, beautiful, and as tough to chew on as left-out beef jerky, this novel is an epic, EPIC piece of work that gnaws through the bullshit in life and shows the raw-ass intensity of familial issues. This glorious, soggy Oregon novel borders on Greek tragedy--the patriarchal power struggles are dramatic as hell, and the individual characters encapsulate the difficult and exhausting thing that is the human condition.
By far my favorite book ever... I read it again about every 3 years. I've worn out half a dozen copies (and given away as many), and would just about trade my soul for a hardcover version -- just can't afford it. Yes, it's extremely difficult, and it took me a few tries to get going, but the opening description of the river and the Stamper house on the bank had me hooked and I kept coming back. Once I acclimated to the shifting viewpoints I could barely put it down. There is one passage of obser...more
The most under-read greatest novel of the last 50 years mainly because the first 80 pages are DENSE.
My 9th grade english teacher told me to skip every other chapter of The Grapes of Wrath if I found the whole turtle-thing boring. But now when I say I've read The Grapes of Wrath I feel like I'm fibbing a bit. In retrospect I wish I'd done the hard work of crossing the highway.
So I would suggest skipping the first section if you find your attention waning...but I would also suggest, if you follow...more
My 9th grade english teacher told me to skip every other chapter of The Grapes of Wrath if I found the whole turtle-thing boring. But now when I say I've read The Grapes of Wrath I feel like I'm fibbing a bit. In retrospect I wish I'd done the hard work of crossing the highway.
So I would suggest skipping the first section if you find your attention waning...but I would also suggest, if you follow...more
I had finished college in the spring of 2005 and had landed a job in Oregon. Coming from Wisconsin, Oregon was a foreign world to me. Over the summer before my move, I picked this book up. It does a great job capturing the essence of the Oregon coast. Kesey masterfully interweaves the small town mentalities with larger then life characters.
A recurrent theme in the book is the geese flying overhead. Kesey uses it as a harbinger of upcoming events in the book. I moved to Oregon in early fall and...more
A recurrent theme in the book is the geese flying overhead. Kesey uses it as a harbinger of upcoming events in the book. I moved to Oregon in early fall and...more
Sometimes A Great Notion takes place not too far from the Oregon Coast in the fictional town of Wakonda, Oregon. The plot centers around the Stamper Family during a logging strike. The loggers are striking for the same pay for fewer hours due to the introduction of the chain saw. The Stampers are a hard-headed, hard-working logging family that not only decides to keep working during the strike, but agrees to supply the local mill with lumber.
The decision to keep logging is reflected through the...more
The decision to keep logging is reflected through the...more
Like "Cuckoo's Nest", this novel is as big and as expansive as the Pacific Northwest it is set in, where Kesey spins the colorful tale of a ogging family pit by circumstance against big business and the negativity of small town America. Describhed with his usual kaliedoscopic powers of wonderfully flowing detail and color, this is a complex and multi-layered tale, with more than enough ingredients for sustained exploration and interest; passion, betrayal, the intricate inner workings of an inter...more
I should have liked this book and I suppose I did. Even before I had migrated through zany stark pioneered places like Eugene. Even before Port Angeles, or the sagging hotel, before the primed knowledge of the great Douglas furs, the junipers, the incense of the hemlocks, the Weeping Sequoia sweeping cobwebs out of the sky, Sugar pines, twisted cedars, delighted needles. Kesey's drug unravelled prose is out of control here.
So sometimes I wonder who wrote Cuckoo's Nest. I doubt that it was the s...more
So sometimes I wonder who wrote Cuckoo's Nest. I doubt that it was the s...more
It's hard to know where to begin - the back of my edition proclaims, "The earthy, torrid story of a lusty, yelling, Paul Bunyan of a man and his battles with society." (In fact, it proclaims that all in caps.) That sort of describes an aspect of the book, but mostly it's kind of like those ads for action movies where they play up the love story angle to try to get the women to come and see it - you know how they cut together the 5 minutes of time actually devoted to the supposed love story and t...more
Wow. What a great book - and for so many reasons.
First, there are so many themes to the story....
- The individual against society;
- How, whether it's a tree or a person, there is something about us that is fascinated by watching the biggest fall;
- Revenge - and how sometimes the best (and only) solution is to let go;
- How one character acts like he is weak, but learns to be strong - while another acts like he is strong, but learns to give - and, in the end, the reader realizes that both characte...more
First, there are so many themes to the story....
- The individual against society;
- How, whether it's a tree or a person, there is something about us that is fascinated by watching the biggest fall;
- Revenge - and how sometimes the best (and only) solution is to let go;
- How one character acts like he is weak, but learns to be strong - while another acts like he is strong, but learns to give - and, in the end, the reader realizes that both characte...more
I like novels that aim high and strive for greatness and this is such a book. Kesey puts you in the landscape so thoroughly that even those of us in drier climes almost feel the rain running down the back of our necks. The characters are developed lovingly, with splendid detail and absolutely no hurry. The tension rises palpably however, and the climactic scenes are not to be forgotten.
Kesey's writing is beyond extraordinary. What he does with point-of-view could be the basis of an entire creat...more
Kesey's writing is beyond extraordinary. What he does with point-of-view could be the basis of an entire creat...more
There were a lot of things I enjoyed in "Sometimes A Great Notion". I was intrigued by the fact that the narration shifted from first person to third person to first person (but from another's character's perspective) all on the same page. I loved the idea of a bar, mentioned early on, with a Woman's Christian Temperance Union "Remember...One Drink Is Too Many" sign out front (which if I ever own a bar I will definitely acquire). I loved picturing what it must be like living on this river, so is...more
Without a doubt, "Sometimes a Great Notion" is one of the best books I've read in years.
This is the tale of the Stampers – a boisterous and stubborn logging family, whose dogged insistence on ignoring a local union strike alienates them from their community and fuels familial tensions. The residents of Wakonda, Oregon, push the Stampers, and the Stampers push right back – "never give an inch," goes the family creed. And while this escalating tension is central to the plot, the real drama takes p...more
This is the tale of the Stampers – a boisterous and stubborn logging family, whose dogged insistence on ignoring a local union strike alienates them from their community and fuels familial tensions. The residents of Wakonda, Oregon, push the Stampers, and the Stampers push right back – "never give an inch," goes the family creed. And while this escalating tension is central to the plot, the real drama takes p...more
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American writer, who gained world fame with his novel One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1962, filmed 1975). In the 1960s, Kesey became a counterculture hero and a guru of psychedelic drugs with Timothy Leary. Kesey has been called the Pied Piper, who changed the beat generation into the hippie movement.
Ken Kesey was born in La Junta, CO, and brought up in Eugene, OR. Kesey spent his early years hun...more
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