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The Ogre
An international bestseller and winner of the Prix Goncourt, France's most prestigious literary award, The Ogre is a masterful tale of innocence, perversion, and obsession. It follows the passage of strange, gentle Abel Tiffauges from submissive schoolboy to "ogre" of the Nazi school at the castle of Kaltenborn, taking us deeper into the dark heart of fascism than any nove...more
Paperback, 373 pages
Published
March 18th 1997
by The Johns Hopkins University Press
(first published 1970)
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At a high point in a pivotal relationship formed during his refectory days in an alien French boy's school, Abel Tiffauges is told the gruesome apocryphal story of the Baron des Adrets' newfound awareness of cadent euphoria by the obese enigma Nestor. The crescendo is reached when the latter murmurs in coda that "There's probably nothing more moving in a man's life than the accidental discovery of his own perversion." Just how much truth this observation bore is revealed to Abel many years later...more
Mar 15, 2010
Tyler
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5 of 5 stars
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Literary Award
At the end of this story one mystery lingers: Did something magical happen? “If you answer yes,” the book seems to say, “humans are inescapably haunted. If you answer no, people may be safe, but the cost will come elsewhere.” Either way I now see clearly why Prussia suddenly vanished.
What instigates the mystery is the protagonist. Abel Tiffauge is a fairly normal French guy despite thinking of himself as an “ogre” with his over-muscled shoulders. But what’s normal is relative. Who among us hasn’...more
What instigates the mystery is the protagonist. Abel Tiffauge is a fairly normal French guy despite thinking of himself as an “ogre” with his over-muscled shoulders. But what’s normal is relative. Who among us hasn’...more
The "ogre" of the title is Abel Tiffauges, a French mechanic who first appears a kind of autistic naif, strange rather than frightening in his obsessions (or perversions). It begins in France, 1938, in the years before Hitler's invasion — then as the war progresses, the setting moves eastward, into a winter-world of horror, and ultimately, transcendence — which I admit doesn't tell you much. It's an unusual, demanding novel; to my mind, a work of genius, unlike anything I've ever read, including...more
This earned a star from me for the research and inventive musings the author had obviously done to do pedantic exhibitions about:
1. monsters;
2. the Aristotelian concept of "potency" (which he managed to tie up with the sexual act);
3. the two types of women, the "woman-trinket" (one who can be manipulated by men) and the "woman-landscape" ( one whom a man can only visit);
4. benign inversion (evil becoming good, sort of) and the malign inversion (the reverse);
5. euphoria, phoria ("to carry"), phor...more
1. monsters;
2. the Aristotelian concept of "potency" (which he managed to tie up with the sexual act);
3. the two types of women, the "woman-trinket" (one who can be manipulated by men) and the "woman-landscape" ( one whom a man can only visit);
4. benign inversion (evil becoming good, sort of) and the malign inversion (the reverse);
5. euphoria, phoria ("to carry"), phor...more
Since The Ogre is a book obsessed with taxonomy, heraldry, classification of all kinds, I'll start by saying that the author MIchel Tournier most reminds me of is Thomas Mann. Mann's playful, ironic fictions seem to have fallen out of use these days (I for one can't get over Guy Davenport's comparison of him to James Joyce: "Mann imposes meaning; Joyce finds it; Mann looks for weakness in strength; Joyce, for strength in weakness. Mann's novels illustrate ideas; Joyce's return ideas to their ori...more
If you wish to be an ogre, then it is very important that you not only be bullied mercilessly, but that you react by choosing someone completely unsuitable as a role model. This is what happens to Abel Tiffauges, the son of an auto mechanic, who despite his height is treated like dirt at a Catholic school and ends by inheriting his father's garage.
Along the way, he develops some strange ideas regarding children. While he is not a pederast and never even attempts to initiate any overt molestation...more
Along the way, he develops some strange ideas regarding children. While he is not a pederast and never even attempts to initiate any overt molestation...more
Jan 12, 2013
Marc L
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3 of 5 stars
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world-war-2
Alleszins een bijzonder boek, maar ik weet er niet zo goed raad mee. Het eerste derde is een mengeling van dagboekfragmenten, herinneringen en mijmeringen, vooral gevuld met een terugblik op de collegejaren van Abel Tiffauges, een gehandicapte garagist uit Parijs. De lectuur van dit deel verloopt bijzonder moeizaam, maar het wordt wel duidelijk dat Tiffauges op een heel vreemde manier naar de werkelijkheid kijkt, met een bijzondere voorliefde voor jonge kinderen, jawel. Hij ziet zichzelf als 'Po...more
Michel Tournier writes
There’s probably nothing more moving in a man’s life than the accidental discovery of his own perversion.
and:
The very perfection of its functioning and the terrible energy that went into it were enough to exclude him forever, but he knew no machinery is safe from a piece of grit, and that fate was on his side.
and:
The moth flies on wings of love toward the electric light bulb. And when he gets there, close to it, as near as he can be to that which attracts him irresistibly,...more
There’s probably nothing more moving in a man’s life than the accidental discovery of his own perversion.
and:
The very perfection of its functioning and the terrible energy that went into it were enough to exclude him forever, but he knew no machinery is safe from a piece of grit, and that fate was on his side.
and:
The moth flies on wings of love toward the electric light bulb. And when he gets there, close to it, as near as he can be to that which attracts him irresistibly,...more
Dopada mi se kako su Svetlana i Franja Termacic preveli Turnijeov roman. Posebno je zanimljivo kako su resili nedoumicu oko naziva.
U francuskom originalu, roman je nazvan "Le roi des aulnes", doslovno prevedeno - Kralj jovà.
Posto su Termacici smatrali da takav naziv zvuci prilicno nespretno,
odlucili su se za Kralja Vilovnjaka i tako ucinili jasnom aluziju na Geteovu pesmu koja se pominje u romanu.
Dalje, "Le roi des aulnes" je francuski prevod pomenute Geteove pesme "Der Erlkönig".
Aleksa Santic j...more
U francuskom originalu, roman je nazvan "Le roi des aulnes", doslovno prevedeno - Kralj jovà.
Posto su Termacici smatrali da takav naziv zvuci prilicno nespretno,
odlucili su se za Kralja Vilovnjaka i tako ucinili jasnom aluziju na Geteovu pesmu koja se pominje u romanu.
Dalje, "Le roi des aulnes" je francuski prevod pomenute Geteove pesme "Der Erlkönig".
Aleksa Santic j...more
Disturbing an powerful, the Ogre takes the reader through the scary psychology of totalitarian thinking by exploring the mind of a Nazi scientist during WWII.
When Michel Tournier is mentioned to someone, you often hear comments like: "Isn't that the author who could only write about human sexual perversions?", but if you examine his work more deeply, you'll see that there is a lot more to his writing than that.
"The Ogre" is Tournier’s second novel. It begins by telling us the story of a French m...more
When Michel Tournier is mentioned to someone, you often hear comments like: "Isn't that the author who could only write about human sexual perversions?", but if you examine his work more deeply, you'll see that there is a lot more to his writing than that.
"The Ogre" is Tournier’s second novel. It begins by telling us the story of a French m...more
Saw the not well known flic 'The Ogre' with John Malchovich, which is based
on this book, which has inspirations from the Goethe poem 'The Erl-King'.
The book is situated just before and during WWII, both are pretty good.
Author Tournier appears to be a French Gunter Grass. He uses the protagonist,
a simplistic Frenchman Tiffauges, to view the Reich in a sentimental fashion,
allowing him to critique his own country (France) a bit.
Tiffauges, a mechanic in Paris 1938, injures his hand so while taking s...more
on this book, which has inspirations from the Goethe poem 'The Erl-King'.
The book is situated just before and during WWII, both are pretty good.
Author Tournier appears to be a French Gunter Grass. He uses the protagonist,
a simplistic Frenchman Tiffauges, to view the Reich in a sentimental fashion,
allowing him to critique his own country (France) a bit.
Tiffauges, a mechanic in Paris 1938, injures his hand so while taking s...more
The Ogre tells the story of a man who recruits children to be Nazis in the belief that he is protecting them. The novel received the Prix Goncourt. Volker Schlöndorff directed a 1996 film, based on the novel, with the title The Ogre.
Michel Tournier’s novel is an unsettling work that relies on a range of narrative strategies to achieve its effects. Notable among these is the alternation between first-and third-person narration. The book opens with the “Sinister Writings” of the protagonist, Abel...more
Michel Tournier’s novel is an unsettling work that relies on a range of narrative strategies to achieve its effects. Notable among these is the alternation between first-and third-person narration. The book opens with the “Sinister Writings” of the protagonist, Abel...more
I'm practicing reading French, and may have missed a lot of vocabulary here, but what I got was fascinating and mysterious. The theme of the book is based on a poem by Goethe which I must investigate further. The setting is largely a military school for boys in Hitler's Germany. The protagonist is a French prisoner of war with an affinity for animals and young boys. The author's commentaries on photography, war, symbols, and many other topics are unique. I'll read more of his work.
Jan 04, 2011
nathan
added it
a strange and disturbing novel..framed by the old german myth of the "erl-koenig" [erl king] /and the famous poem of goethe/ and st christopher..a french prisoner recruits young boys for a hitler youth camp and everything in the world a sign.."now I know that any human face, however vile, becomes the face of Christ when it is struck"
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Michel Tournier is a French writer.
His works are highly considered and have won important awards such as the Grand Prix du roman de l'Académie française in 1967 for Vendredi ou les limbes du Pacifique. and the Prix Goncourt for Le Roi des aulnes in 1970. His works dwell on the fantastic, his inspirations including traditional German culture, Catholicism, and the philosophies of Gaston Bachelard. H...more
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His works are highly considered and have won important awards such as the Grand Prix du roman de l'Académie française in 1967 for Vendredi ou les limbes du Pacifique. and the Prix Goncourt for Le Roi des aulnes in 1970. His works dwell on the fantastic, his inspirations including traditional German culture, Catholicism, and the philosophies of Gaston Bachelard. H...more
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