The New Paradigm for Financial Markets: The Credit Crisis of 2008 and What It Means
by
George Soros
In the midst of the most serious financial upheaval since the Great Depression, legendary financier George Soros explores the origins of the crisis and its implications for the future. Soros, whose breadth of experience in financial markets is unrivaled, places the current crisis in the context of decades of study of how individuals and institutions handle the boom and bus...more
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May 6th 2008
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(first published January 1st 2008)
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Maybe it's just me, but this book felt overly complex. I personally believe the true mark of genius is someone who can both understand what is seemingly infinitely complex, while at the same time convey that concept to lay people with ease and in simple terms. George, while likely intelligent (I can't tell, I spent too much time trying to decipher what he was trying to say... and not much time really understanding what he was talking about) either cannot, or chose not to do this. The book is com...more
I felt let down by this book. At first it gives a good overview and timeline of the current credit crunch (although nothing someone wouldn't have known from reading the paper once and a while over the past 6 months). Then, it delves into Soros's theory of "reflexivity", which attempts to debunk efficient market theory. I was highly disappointed in this section. I didn't think it was convincing at all, which says a lot since I'm not a big believer in efficient markets to begin with! All in all, i...more
The first Soros I've read. Very interesting. I like his philosophical take on the machinations of the financial markets. Very timely.
Copious notes:
p. 36 Scientific laws cannot be verified; they can only be falsified. That is the role of testing. Scientific laws can be tested by pairing off initial conditions with final conditions. If they fail to conform to the scientific law in question, that law has been falsified. Statements that are not subject to falsification do not qualify as scientific....more
Copious notes:
p. 36 Scientific laws cannot be verified; they can only be falsified. That is the role of testing. Scientific laws can be tested by pairing off initial conditions with final conditions. If they fail to conform to the scientific law in question, that law has been falsified. Statements that are not subject to falsification do not qualify as scientific....more
Interesting and thought provoking concerning Soros' theory of "Reflexivity," silliness raised to a power of ten when Soros accuses others of being ideological. Curiously, it does not look like most of the predictions he had the cojones to make at the end of the book have come to pass. Yet.
I would also have liked more information on the "Super-bubble" he posited, and whose start date seemed to shift from the end of World War II to the election of Reagan and Thatcher, to whenever was most convenie...more
I would also have liked more information on the "Super-bubble" he posited, and whose start date seemed to shift from the end of World War II to the election of Reagan and Thatcher, to whenever was most convenie...more
We were used to Soros thinking of himself as a genius of financial markets - he's been pretty successful (read: lucky) at dodging black swans, you can't take that from him... Now meet the Soros who thinks of himself as a genius of economic theory - one step short of a genius full stop. He confesses to having started "reading classical philosophers in [his:] early teens" (!) and now rubs his 2 neurons together to try and deliver a holistic theory of financial markets through a rather shallow and...more
I really want to like this book and can't deny that Soros obviously has some fundamental truth to his Reflexivity Theory.
The first half of the book is spent explaining his theory of reflexivity and how it contradicts to the financial equilibrium theory. Both theories are philosophical ideas and the first half of the book reads like a mixture of a philosophy text and an short autobiographical summary of his role in the financial market. This is also the part that I leaves me finding it hard to r...more
The first half of the book is spent explaining his theory of reflexivity and how it contradicts to the financial equilibrium theory. Both theories are philosophical ideas and the first half of the book reads like a mixture of a philosophy text and an short autobiographical summary of his role in the financial market. This is also the part that I leaves me finding it hard to r...more
Let me start my review of George Soros’s “The New Paradigm for Financial Markets” by stating that there is much I like in this book, however there is also much that I don’t like. I can only marvel at his skill as a fund manager and his rebuttal of the foolishness of efficient market assumptions. I also applaud his evangelising the philosophy of Karl Popper. If Karl Popper is not the greatest 20th century philosopher I don’t know who else could possibly take the mantle. It is precisely over Karl...more
It's best to avoid any book with 'paradigm' in the title, but it was the only financial crisis book I could find in the Good Will I was in. The first third of the book should have been cut in half, Soros repeats himself using mostly the same phrasing many times. Also his invented terms for what already has good names in other fields is annoying. One thought provoked was that his view of the economic system that has participants with faulty knowledge (rather than the perfect knowledge assumption...more
I paid $2.97 for this book. It was regularly priced at $22.95. I was ripped off! Now I know how the Bank of England felt!
It is amazing that George Soros could be a billionaire, yet have such convoluted and immature thought processes. While he repeatedly claims to be seeking the historical truth, he utterly fails to acknowledge (even once!) the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 and its ramifications on the current financial crisis. While he seems to want to be an oracle of the economy, he makes...more
It is amazing that George Soros could be a billionaire, yet have such convoluted and immature thought processes. While he repeatedly claims to be seeking the historical truth, he utterly fails to acknowledge (even once!) the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977 and its ramifications on the current financial crisis. While he seems to want to be an oracle of the economy, he makes...more
Soros' theory of reflexivity is interesting, even if I am not sure that what he is talking about is really what should be called a theory. I mean what he has to say about reflexivity is more along the lines of descriptive. But difference between description and theory is so hard to draw. He has a lot to say about why Economics is not a science. I think few would disagree.
However the book is obsessed with random references to various other authors, all of which seem like apostrophes. Certainly h...more
However the book is obsessed with random references to various other authors, all of which seem like apostrophes. Certainly h...more
George, I'll just take your word for it. If you invested $10,000USD with George Soros when he started his hedge fund in the late 60's and stayed with him into the late '00's when he closed it, your payout would have been $43,000,000. Suffice to say Soros knows what he is talking about when it comes to investing. Unfortunately, you'll need to be similarly intellectually endowed to grasp his ideas. Soros covers his concept of reflexivity first as an abstract philosophical framework and later as a...more
The other reviews for this book mostly get it right, so I will not rehash what they have written. I have read the last few books by Soros, and his philosophy takes a while to sink in, but I did not find this book to be overly complex or confusing. Rather, I feel that in explaining the current crisis, Soros's theories on reflexivity, fertile fallacies and his attacks on market fundamentalism are perfectly timed - and if people are serious about a more sophisticated and subtle understanding of the...more
First off, I must start by saying that I have a tremendous amount of respect and admiration for George Soros! I think he has achieved an incredible amount of good with his wealth while showing the world what is possible when the powerful apply themselves to highest of human ideals. His Open Society foundation is a remarkable achievment and a grand testament to those ideals.
Having said all that, he really needs to move on from this whole Karl Popper/Reflexivity thing. I understand and agree with...more
Jul 30, 2009
Steve Venick
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
anybody trying to understand the financial crisis from a somewhat "philosophical" perspective
I'm not very far into this book so I'll reserve my final judgement until I've finished, but already I find it extremely compelling. The strength of this book is that Soros is very explicit about the conceptual framework that he uses to understand and explain the financial crisis. This allows the reader to judge the argument on its merits because Soros' perspective is out in the open (which is not often the case). The added bonus is that his conceptual framework (he calls it "reflexivity") is, in...more
If you haven't read any Soros books in the past then you'll be frustrated by the first half of the book. He talks about his reflexive theory which his attempt at providing some kind of philosophic idea. The problem with this presentation is that 1/3rd of the time he apologizes for his previous books and attempts to explain reflexive theory. Unfortunately you're not given enough information in this book to fully understand the theory nor make a determination of his motives of this theory. (I alwa...more
Very good. Soros is a prescient hedge fund manager and seems to anticipate major moves in financial markets before anyone else. His lack of ego and concerted will to what is right are admirable. The chapters on reflexivity and the fundamentally irrational nature of the human psyche have much broader implications that just financial markets. I also found the section on ways to provide more secure housing and mortgage markets fascinating; in this case, by creating better bankruptcy judges and deve...more
This is not good literature. Mr. Soros’s writes in a condescending tone throughout the whole thing and uses “I” waaaay to much. He doesn’t explain his theory of Reflexity in a clear, succinct manner. Really couldn’t tell you what it means, other than what you think affects what see and experience, kinda like self-actualizing.. but again, I could be off, b/c Soros does not explain things at a simple level.
His bias permeates the whole book. He constantly impugns Bush administration, but give no fu...more
His bias permeates the whole book. He constantly impugns Bush administration, but give no fu...more
As a work of philosophy, obtuse and pedantic. Applied outside of the markets, Soros' philosophies are a nice intellectual exercise, but he himself offers very little insight. Additionally, his work is overly simplistic to apply to finance. Reflexivity is a reductionist philosophy that manages to remove the actual insight required to make intelligent investing decisions. His, and any good, investment decisions are based first and foremost on sound fundamental data, good counsel, research, and imp...more
The title is misleading. There is no new paradigm truly suggested here. Despite the claim at the outset, the majority of the book focuses on reflexivity explanation again. Surprising why a successful billionaire is so obsessed that his theories are not picked up by some academic philosophers. His bitterness on the front is visible everywhere. For a believer of reflexivity like me, the book provides nothing new on the theory and forecasts for the near-term as well as solutions offered are more li...more
I appreciated the candid description of the ideology that has gotten our economy into trouble - he calls it 'market fundamentalism'. Too many politicians & regulators have been thinking & acting as if market forces on their own would automatically correct the economy so there wasn't any need for any regulations... never mind the lessons from the Great Depression. The laws passed during FDR's presidency in the 30's to ensure nothing that bad could ever happen again are not relevant to our...more
Nov 18, 2008
Austen
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1 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommended to Austen by:
Amanda Yaggy
"People want to know what lies ahead. I cannot tell them because I do not know. What I want to tell them is something different. I want to explain the human condition."
I am not an economist, nor do I participate in financial markets in any significant way. Really, I never even took a business course as an undergraduate. I mention this because many of the specific details that Soros presents are cloaked in a specialized language that is almost totally unfamiliar to me. Even Wikipedia can't help m...more
I am not an economist, nor do I participate in financial markets in any significant way. Really, I never even took a business course as an undergraduate. I mention this because many of the specific details that Soros presents are cloaked in a specialized language that is almost totally unfamiliar to me. Even Wikipedia can't help m...more
Nov 06, 2008
Bart
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Those interested in the economic theory of reflexivity
This book marks what George Soros promises is his final treatment of the invaluable theory of reflexivity. The New Financial Paradigm is too long by half, yes, and Soros occasionally tries to cram reflexivity into his explanations of unrelated phenomena. But for all that, reflexivity is a wonderful tool that has been both undeservedly dismissed and undeservedly unremarked upon.
The term reflexivity is derived from Romance languages’ transitive and self-referential verbs. Effectively it is derived...more
The term reflexivity is derived from Romance languages’ transitive and self-referential verbs. Effectively it is derived...more
Picked up this book three weeks ago as it seemed timely. Just finished it last night, not quite so timely!
Soros wants to be a philosopher, but he should just stop with that and read some more. He has the Theory of Reflexivity - that real people and their thoughts are a part of market dynamics, and thus markets don't behave according to the dominant equilibrium analysis. There is feedback between facts and thoughts, and between thoughts and thoughts. He spends way to much time on this without pro...more
Soros wants to be a philosopher, but he should just stop with that and read some more. He has the Theory of Reflexivity - that real people and their thoughts are a part of market dynamics, and thus markets don't behave according to the dominant equilibrium analysis. There is feedback between facts and thoughts, and between thoughts and thoughts. He spends way to much time on this without pro...more
I have the more-or-less standard criticism of this book, I assume. The author is a great and famous investor, and a not-so-great and not-so-famous philosopher, and again he has written a book that is 85% about his philosophy and added just enough stuff about current financial markets that people will buy it to read his investing opinion. on the positive side, he is very upfront that that is what he is trying to do.
the problems with his philosophy (which very briefly, is that markets are inheren...more
the problems with his philosophy (which very briefly, is that markets are inheren...more
Soros turns philosopher and develops his "theory of reflexivity". The way he does this is by repeating it about three dozens times. Repeating oneself does not equal profundity. Throwing in a plethora of anecdotes about how one made or lost money doesn't do it either. I kept waiting for this amazing theory to be developed. Then I hit the end of the book.
The "theory," he admits, is not really a theory, but a rejection of the idea of market equilibrium. One reason is that equilibrium theory assumes...more
The "theory," he admits, is not really a theory, but a rejection of the idea of market equilibrium. One reason is that equilibrium theory assumes...more
That markets and other social institutions are filled with human uncertainty rather than being subject to description and prediction using strict scientific laws would seem obvious. However, recent economic thought has held the opposite, fancying itself in the realm of the physical sciences. This book puts forward the author's alternative theory of how the market works and his analysis of events over the last decades that have led to the present financial crisis. Worth reading.
Soros tells what it is to be human. The description and quantification of risk urgently needs to be improved (pg 74). Politics is more concerned with the oursuit of power rather than the pursuit of truth (pg. 44). But HOW, given the spread of intelligence in the population, are we to achieve, "an electorate that insists on certain standards of truth and honesty"? But how can even that solve the problem, in a world where the very, very, rich operate statelessly?
A good overview of how we got to the current financial crisis and some recommendations for going forward. While not overly technical, knowledge of financial terminology is required to understand the book. Soros aspires to be a philosopher. As such, he spends too much time on his theory of reflexivity and perhaps leaves the reader wanting more perscriptions going forward.
Excellent analysis and review of the credit "crash" of '08, as well as other bubbles throughout financial history. The sections that related to his theory on reflexivity were very confusing - I don't see how a man as brilliant in finance and arbitrage as this can't do a better job explaining a theory he "developed"! I personally feel he extends the efficient market hypothesis a bit too far into realms it was not meant to be applied. Still, worth the read for the few chapters cover the financial...more
Jun 16, 2008
Scott
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Those with a strong thirst for financial market knowledge and current affairs.
For those of you who don't quite understand why the economy is not doing so hot and the causal factors that have led to the housing bubble as well as the "super-bubble" as Soros puts it, this is the book for you. Soros combines both philosophy and financial/economic expertises in relaying his message that the causal factors of the aforementioned "bubbles" can be tied to a term "reflexivity." In a nutshell reflexivity has two main parts, a cognitive function (what we know) and the manipulation fu...more
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George Soros is a Hungarian-American financier, businessman and notable philanthropist focused on supporting liberal ideals and causes. He became known as "the Man Who Broke the Bank of England" after he made a reported $1 billion during the 1992 Black Wednesday UK currency crises. Soros correctly speculated that the British government would have to devalue the pound sterling.
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