Enough.: True Measures of Money, Business, and Life
John Bogle puts our obsession with financial success in perspectiveThroughout his legendary career, John C. Bogle-founder of the Vanguard Mutual Fund Group and creator of the first index mutual fund-has helped investors build wealth the right way and led a tireless campaign to restore common sense to the investment world. Along the way, he's seen how destructive an obsessi...more
Hardcover, 276 pages
Published
October 1st 2008
by John Wiley & Sons
(first published 2008)
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What is most inspiring about this book is John Bogle's personal example. He has lived the life he espouses, and continues to do so. Through a variety of personal anecdotes and observations about modern times, he explains why we need to return to the basic values of character and thrift. He applies this message to investing, but the book is more social commentary than financial advice. What he does say about investing is exemplified in the approach Vanguard uses. Having studied the economics of p...more
Has there ever been a book with a more apt title? Honestly, I couldn't count the number of times during listening to this audiobook when I thought to myself, ENOUGH, PLEASE GOD ENOUGH!
In the end I listened to the whole damn thing, but mostly out of the perverse curiosity that wonders if it is possible for this guy to bring in homily after homily and self-aggrandisement after self-aggrandisement and sustain it for an entire book. Naturally, he had no trouble. Where this book is particularly inter...more
In the end I listened to the whole damn thing, but mostly out of the perverse curiosity that wonders if it is possible for this guy to bring in homily after homily and self-aggrandisement after self-aggrandisement and sustain it for an entire book. Naturally, he had no trouble. Where this book is particularly inter...more
More than a remarkable book. How to invest, run a company and run your life. The Forward by William Jefferson Clinton and Prologue by Tom Peters are excellent. Then Bogle presents an "Author's Note" written in April 2010 where he deals with the causes of the 2007 collapse what to do about it and sets the stage defining the ethical crisis. In the Introduction he summarizes his life which he returns to in the Afterword. Then the Money section titles Too Much Cost, Not Enough Value; Too Much Specul...more
Enough starts with the very premise I came upon several years ago while studying business; there is a point where individuals (and companies) have enough, enough market share, enough savings, enough resources, enough house, enough comfort, etc.
p. 22 "...our entire society...reflect[s:] some of the absurdities and inequities that we've come to accept and take for granted."
"In our financial system, we focus our expectations on the returns that the financial markets may deliver, ignoring the exorbi...more
p. 22 "...our entire society...reflect[s:] some of the absurdities and inequities that we've come to accept and take for granted."
"In our financial system, we focus our expectations on the returns that the financial markets may deliver, ignoring the exorbi...more
Bogle, with an elegant simplicity, cogently explains why the current financial crisis is far more than "a bunch of people who didn't really qualify got a bunch of bad mortgages." The prevailing news stories seem to cast the pickle we're all in on the backs of the working poor and those trying to move into home ownership for the first time, ever.
Bogle explains how we have transitioned from an agricultural economy to an industrial to a service to finally, a finance economy. About a quarter of our...more
Bogle explains how we have transitioned from an agricultural economy to an industrial to a service to finally, a finance economy. About a quarter of our...more
I will never grow weary of reading books by John C. Bogle, founder of the Vanguard Group.
While the book does veer way of course from its title and only sporadically touches on the concept of when do you have enough? it makes up of for it by Bogle's wisdom on a range of topics, from finance, business practices to entrepreneurship.
As usual he commands the classical writings of yore to support his arguments and to show that business, work, values and ethics have changed very little in the course of...more
While the book does veer way of course from its title and only sporadically touches on the concept of when do you have enough? it makes up of for it by Bogle's wisdom on a range of topics, from finance, business practices to entrepreneurship.
As usual he commands the classical writings of yore to support his arguments and to show that business, work, values and ethics have changed very little in the course of...more
An inspiring reflection on money and more
This inspiring work by John C. Bogle, one of the great financial innovators in American history, sounds like an echo of the distant past. Indeed, he calls for a return to 18th century values, and uses such words as “virtue” and “character” to describe his vision of how the financial system should be constituted. Many of the themes Bogle strikes will be familiar to readers acquainted with his other works. However, with the American financial system in cris...more
This inspiring work by John C. Bogle, one of the great financial innovators in American history, sounds like an echo of the distant past. Indeed, he calls for a return to 18th century values, and uses such words as “virtue” and “character” to describe his vision of how the financial system should be constituted. Many of the themes Bogle strikes will be familiar to readers acquainted with his other works. However, with the American financial system in cris...more
The best part about this book is the story that inspired the title. At a party, Kurt Vonnegut tells Joseph Heller that their host (a hedge fund manager) had made more money in a day than Heller made from his book, Catch-22. Heller says, "Yes, but I have something he will never have . . . enough." That interaction is a little revelation in itself. But it's also a fabulous premise for a book. Just not this book. I expected the book to be for a general audience and to go into more depth about what...more
Very enjoyable investing book for once. What is enough? Answering that in a personal and financial sense helps us lead directed, meaningful lives. It also talks about a human obsession with quantifying... even the things that cannot be quantified. Once again, Bogle talks not about beating the market but getting your fair share through index funds. I like that idea considering where beating the market can land you and your country.
My two favorite passages:
At a party given by a billionaire on Shel...more
My two favorite passages:
At a party given by a billionaire on Shel...more
It seemed slow going at the first portion of the book. However, I was pleasantly surprised how the booked tied the end to the beginning. It became apparent to me why the author laid out the book this way.
I really like the quote mentioned in the book:
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelic...more
I really like the quote mentioned in the book:
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelic...more
The name of John Bogle's most recent book, Enough. True Measures of Money, Business and Life, seems to promise a treatise on our society's failure to measure true value. But Bogle’s shortest book reads more like the meandering thoughts of a accomplished, earnest and wise old man than it does a clear and directed essay. In a roundabout way, Enough concludes that the values that underpin market capitalism have eroded, resulting in a grim prognosis for our financial system.
What must be foremost ap...more
What must be foremost ap...more
This is an interesting combination of business advice, social commentary and business ethics. Written by a mutual fund manager of 60 years experience at the time of the recent financial crisis, Bogle is well qualified to speak on the problems in the financial system. He takes aim at the fact that many companies and individuals in the financial 'services' sector skim off profits for themselves and pay little heed to those who they earn their money from, or who they should be earning it for. On th...more
Would that more corporate CEOs and high level managers had the business ethic of John Bogle. While I'm sure his view is biased (as are we all) it sounds like he's built Vanguard into a company that, if it follows his beliefs as he's laid them out, truly has the customer's best interest in mind. His observations of the investing and money industry are especially apt given the meltdown we've experienced over the last year. While money managers have made huge sums of money for themselves, they've a...more
I was very interested in the chapter where Bogle looks at his industry and disects it at a 30,000-foot level. It was interesting to hear an insider speak about one of the most important aspects of the business world, how we save for retirement. If this guy thinks it is this broken, we are in trouble.
His section about what is "enough" left me pretty bored. Some old bromides. Some new ones. But no new ways to look at the concept of what people need to be happy. I was a little disappointed with tha...more
His section about what is "enough" left me pretty bored. Some old bromides. Some new ones. But no new ways to look at the concept of what people need to be happy. I was a little disappointed with tha...more
My first time with a Bogle book, so some may have taken issue with the repetition he acknowledges from his previous work. It was great to read his thoughts and understanding his thinking. Got a bit out "preachy" in spots, with a yearning for the "good old days" but some real pearls throughout.
His skewering of the financial advisory and investment firms is priceless, classic Bogle. Made me go back and review my own investment ideas and strategies to see how far I've come off his low-cost, broad...more
His skewering of the financial advisory and investment firms is priceless, classic Bogle. Made me go back and review my own investment ideas and strategies to see how far I've come off his low-cost, broad...more
This book is a treasure trove of wisdom about what it means to have "enough" in life. The book resonated with my own Judeo-Christian values, and I recommend it to others looking for an extended essay on this topic. John Bogle is the founder and past CEO of Vanguard, one of my favorite investment firms. Mr. Bogle shares in this book his own life experiences and then launches into an extended critique of the business and financial world (particularly, of the investment -- or should I say speculati...more
This book's title came from a story Kurt Vonnegut told about a party he and Joseph Heller attended. The party was hosted by a billionaire CEO and, purportedly Vonnegut told Heller he bet the host made more in the last year than all the money Heller made from his masterpiece, "Catch-22." Heller replied, "Yeah, but I've made something he never will." When Vonnegut asked, "What?" Heller said, "Enough."
The book is written by the former CEO of Vanguard and an author of other books on investing. It's...more
The book is written by the former CEO of Vanguard and an author of other books on investing. It's...more
Good principles. Excellent quotes an anecdotes to mine.
Minor criticisms:
1) The flow (and sometimes subject matter) is a little disjointed. The book works well as a series of references and essays, but not as a "book" per se.
2) The tone is often preachy (I'm generally OK with that, but I can see others getting sick of it quickly).
3) A little too often, the book comes across as a little too self-congratulatory. I won't pretend that Bogle hasn't earned a well-deserved reputation. But one can only...more
Minor criticisms:
1) The flow (and sometimes subject matter) is a little disjointed. The book works well as a series of references and essays, but not as a "book" per se.
2) The tone is often preachy (I'm generally OK with that, but I can see others getting sick of it quickly).
3) A little too often, the book comes across as a little too self-congratulatory. I won't pretend that Bogle hasn't earned a well-deserved reputation. But one can only...more
This book can be a real eye-opener for an average person who invests in his or her 401(k) and then wonders at puny returns while the likes of Fidelity manage to make multi-billion dollar profits. The executives of most corporations together with the financial industry managed to transform capitalism from a system of value-creation for the shareholders and society into one of value-extraction from them. I was aware of these problems before I picked up this book, but still was glad to read it and...more
I'm not sure exactly what I should call this book. Is it finance? Is it motivational? Is it biography? I can't really say. But it is an interesting read when viewed from any of those perspectives. Of course, John Bogle is a fascinating guy and has rocked the world of finance over his lifetime, so he is eminently qualified to give us some words of advice on finance. [return][return]In this book, Bogle spends about 2/3 of the time working his way through 'what is wrong in finance.' Informative and...more
I read this book on recommendation from Matt Heusser's blog, Creative Chaos (you can read his review here). I like what Bogle has to say in the opening about having 'enough.' Too often we think about what we could do with a little more, rather than thinking about what we can do better with what we have. On that point I agree. I hoped that he would go on to describe a method of growing a business that is sustainable, where success is measured by providing a stable work place; not by how the busin...more
Can't remember how this book got onto my to-read list…
Overall a decent enough book; insightful in terms of clarifying many things such as "business versus finance" [which could be viewed as making versus counting, in some ways), and his approach toward investment and reasonings behind the development of the Vanguard Index fund.
The later two-thirds are more general about business and life, and at times could rub a reader the wrong way (perhaps preachy, perhaps at some point a reader might think "...more
Overall a decent enough book; insightful in terms of clarifying many things such as "business versus finance" [which could be viewed as making versus counting, in some ways), and his approach toward investment and reasonings behind the development of the Vanguard Index fund.
The later two-thirds are more general about business and life, and at times could rub a reader the wrong way (perhaps preachy, perhaps at some point a reader might think "...more
81-year-old John Bogle is the founder of The Vanguard Group of mutual funds. He thinks that after all these years and a heart transplant (I wonder whether he waited in line behind ordinary citizens) he has acquired enough wisdom to share with the rest of us. Bogle thinks that American capitalism is on the wrong track because of the obsession with short-term profits and neglect of long-term investment, and that the financial industry mostly serves itself instead of the investor and the business b...more
I like Jack Bogle ... and so does Jack Bogle. He's read widely and culled a lot of good ideas -- no-load index funds, fiscal responsibility, frugality, liberality -- and he's made them his own. After reading Enough. you may be left with the impression that Bogle invented not only the mutual fund business, but also the alphabet, the Enlightenment, and chicken soup. In other words, Bogle takes a lot of credit for others' ideas: he's sort of the Al Gore of the financial world.
Still, I like the guy...more
Still, I like the guy...more
I picked up this text with some knowledge of the author’s role in pioneering the no-load, indexed mutual fund. In this age of financial scandal, it was refreshing to read about the sound principles for life and work that undergird his investment philosophy. Bogle shares nuggets of hard-earned wisdom, reminding us that in many places there is too much short-term speculation and not enough long-term investment, too much focus on the trappings of success and not enough on character. He says that we...more
Sometimes we read things to affirm our opinions and sometimes to be challenged. This falls into the former camp for me. I agree with his opinions about an erosion in ethics in American business--although it's almost a rule of psychology that we think things were better in the old days--and the bloat in the financial industry but the book is self-indulgent given it's slim size and wide line spacing. You get the sense he gets to publish simply because of his position in society.
I thought it was pretty good. I am a Bogle fan, so I may be biased. The main complaint I have is that he really focused on what the financial advisors do "wrong" and how advisors don't define "enough" but he really didn't place any of the blame on investors, at least not in this book. If investors understood "enough," they wouldn't have been so greedy in every bubble in history. Anyway, I thought the audiobook was good enough that I got my own hard copy of the book.
A good companion piece to "The Black Swan." Good financial analysis, plus some musings on the importance of ethics in a free-market, capitalistic system. Book starts with a great story: Kurt Vonnegut and Joseph Heller are at a party in the Hamptons thrown by a financier.Vonnegut says: "this guy made more money in one day trading derivatives than you made from Catch 22 in 20 years."
Heller responds: "Yes, but I have something he'll never have."
"What's that?" asked Heller.
"Enough," answered Vonneg...more
Heller responds: "Yes, but I have something he'll never have."
"What's that?" asked Heller.
"Enough," answered Vonneg...more
Great read. Jack Bogle never fails to communicate a broader vision of life while talking finance. This is no exception. The idea of an entire industry/profession as contributing no additive value and being basically parasitic is timely considering current circumstances. Enough is a call to simplicity and modesty on the one hand and an invitation to live a life of service to a grand vision on the other. Highly recommended.
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John Clifton "Jack" Bogle (born May 8, 1929) is the founder and retired CEO of The Vanguard Group. He is known for his 1999 book Common Sense on Mutual Funds: New Imperatives for the Intelligent Investor, which became a bestseller and is considered a classic.
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“As I have earlier noted, the most important things in life and in business can’t be measured. The trite bromide 'If you can measure it, you can manage it' has been a hindrance in the building a great real-world organization, just as it has been a hindrance in evaluating the real-world economy. It is character, not numbers, that make the world go ‘round. How can we possibly measure the qualities of human existence that give our lives and careers meaning? How about grace, kindness, and integrity? What value do we put on passion, devotion, and trust? How much do cheerfulness, the lilt of a human voice, and a touch of pride add to our lives? Tell me, please, if you can, how to value friendship, cooperation, dedication, and spirit. Categorically, the firm that ignores the intangible qualities that the human beings who are our colleagues bring to their careers will never build a great workforce or a great organization.”
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