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Well-Behaved Women Seldom Make History

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“They didn’t ask to be remembered,” Pulitzer Prize-winning author Laurel Ulrich wrote in 1976 about the pious women of colonial New England. And then she added a phrase that has since gained widespread currency: “Well-behaved women seldom make history.” Today those words appear almost everywhere—on T-shirts, mugs, bumper stickers, plaques, greeting cards, and more. But wha...more

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May 10, 2008 Elizabeth rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2008, books-about-books, history, non-fiction, reviewed, victorians-and-wannabes

I wish this book had begun with the conclusion. In it, Laurel Thatcher Ulrich writes:

Confronting these shifting meanings, some people wonder whether history has any value at all. At any given moment it is hard to know whom to believe and what to trust. That's why details matter. Details provide the contexts in which Wollstonecraft, Stanton, and Friedan mounted their arguments. Details help us understand the precise circumstances that allowed Artemisia Gentileschi to become an artist, or Harriet...more I wish this book had begun with the conclusion. In it, Laurel Thatcher Ulrich writes:

Confronting these shifting meanings, some people wonder whether history has any value at all. At any given moment it is hard to know whom to believe and what to trust. That's why details matter. Details provide the contexts in which Wollstonecraft, Stanton, and Friedan mounted their arguments. Details help us understand the precise circumstances that allowed Artemisia Gentileschi to become an artist, or Harriet Jacobs a writer. Details keep us from falling into the twin snares of 'victim history' and 'hero history.' Details let us out of boxes created by slogans.

The book is a collection of essays about women in history and how, every so often, these perfectly ordinary women step across the line that is what their society (their context) has defined as being well behaved and make history. Sometimes they do this by playing on that perception of good behavior. Ulrich uses the example of Harriet Beecher Stowe and the abolitionists here. She gives us lots of details of women who met the standards of good behavior and the backlash against them when they stepped over the line for a cause or to protect themselves or to simply survive.

The point of the book is to provide details (lots of details) about lots of women in different time periods, cultures, classes, and countries, to demonstrate both the boundaries in which they were operating and how and when they would chose to push their boundaries. For all the details, there is so much material covered in this book and so quickly, that is can be hard to absorb sometimes. It's a casual history, written for people who don't normally read histories. I'd give it to someone interested in women's history who hadn't read anything (or very little) yet. It's very smart and well researched but if you already know the details of some of these women and movements, the book can drag, without offering anything new. It's a good book. I just wish it had come along when I was sixteen.(less)

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Nov 21, 2009 Emily rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: non-fiction, meridian

This book is like a teaser or a movie preview - it just cracks opens the door to give you a peek at what's out there so you know that there's a lot more where that comes from. Using her own famous slogan as a launching pad, Ms. Ulrich covers an amazingly broad spectrum of time, class, and geography to give us a taste of the breadth and depth of women's history. For example, she discusses the legends of Amazon warriors, women's suffrage, Mrs. O'Leary's cow, the stories of Judith and Susanna in th...more This book is like a teaser or a movie preview - it just cracks opens the door to give you a peek at what's out there so you know that there's a lot more where that comes from. Using her own famous slogan as a launching pad, Ms. Ulrich covers an amazingly broad spectrum of time, class, and geography to give us a taste of the breadth and depth of women's history. For example, she discusses the legends of Amazon warriors, women's suffrage, Mrs. O'Leary's cow, the stories of Judith and Susanna in the Apocrypha, female Renaissance artists, home decoration in Botswana, Native American basket weaving, and second-wave feminism in the 1960s.

The book hangs on an outline provided by books written by three remarkable women: Book of the City of Ladies by Christine de Pizan (c. 1400), Eighty Years and More by Elizabeth Cady Stanton (c. 1825), and A Room of One's Own by Virginia Woolf (1928). Ms. Ulrich frequently refers back to these three women and their landmark books throughout her work.

I particularly liked the chapters on women and slavery and on second-wave feminism. In the first, Ms. Ulrich highlighted four "Harriets": Harriet Powell and Harriet Jacobs (both runaway slaves), Harriet Tubman, and Harriet Beecher Stowe. Through these women she tells the story of slavery, drawing parallels with the rights denied women of the time as well. As for the second, I am ashamed to admit how much I didn't know about the last forty years of the women's movement. I've been the beneficiary of so many of its hard-won results, completely ignorant of those who made those benefits possible.

Each of the chapters really could have been expanded into a book of its own; in fact, the major quibble I have with the book is that it wasn't long enough, while the individual chapters felt too long - too much information with not enough breaks to absorb the information. But I still came away wanting more. Ms. Ulrich gathers together compelling stories of fascinating women, but there's so much more to learn. This book is probably best used as a starting point for continuing research into women's history.

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Mar 26, 2008 Rachel rated it 5 of 5 stars

Oh Laurel, you don't disappoint. I really enjoyed this book. Perhaps it's the way I approached it, grabbing it up for a quick ten-minute read here and there during the day. Gave me lots of time to think over what I'd read. Brain food.

Reading this: Like sitting in Ulrich’s Harvard seminar. Made me nostalgic for those lovely English grad school discussions. Came away doubly determined to familiarize my girls with the women who lived through the ages.

Still, this book wasn't what I'd expected. I ass...more

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Feb 07, 2008 Liza rated it 3 of 5 stars Recommends it for: historians, feminists, art historians

Well-Behaved Women Seldom Make History covers far too much ground in few too pages. The text attempts to relates to the thesis--that well-behaved women seldom make history--but it often comes across as seeming annecdotal and trite at times. The reader learns a little about the Amazons, a little about second-wave feminists, and a little about Wonder Woman, among others. It's all fascinating, but it prevents a level of depth that most readers yearn for. I did like, however, how the author framed "...more

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Jun 23, 2008 Kristin rated it 4 of 5 stars

I know that women's studies scholars have reviewed this book and found it simplistic and repetitive. I, however, am not a women's studies scholar. I am a woman who wants to understand how my culture, stretching back for centuries, has formed the experience of women. I was not at all disappointed. I found this book interesting, entertaining, and educational. I did emerge from it rather grumpy and sharp toward my husband and three boys, but now that my husband is eager to read it as well, I think...more

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Mar 05, 2008 CJ rated it 1 of 5 stars

I wanted to like this book - really. As a child, I would go to the biography section in the public library and just pull books at random off the shelves to take home and read. The librarians didn't know what to do with a child who came up with 11 books and wanting to check them all out. I chewed through those books every week.

I don't know what it is about this book, but the lives of the women she talks about were ... well boring. How do you make history boring? I couldn't finish it and it went b...more

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Dec 06, 2010 Lily rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2010, history

I was hoping for Ulrich to follow up her excellent forward about the book's title with a more complex approach to "women who make history" (including both the women themselves and the historians who make them into history.) Instead, I was somewhat disappointed in the way the book concluded by a one-sided celebration of 70's feminism. However, nobody must be more aware of the blatant bias in this chapter than Ulrich, who spends much of the book speculating on the power of particular historical le...more

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Mar 01, 2010 Laurie rated it 5 of 5 stars

Years ago, I saw the title of this book and it grabbed my imagination. The book didn’t exist at the time; this was originally a sentence in an article that she wrote in 1976. The sentence escaped captivity and was used on t-shirts, coffee mugs and bumper stickers- sometimes without either credit or permission. I used the sentence as my sig. line for a couple of years. Here, Ulrich explores what it means to make history.

Years ago, women were pretty much ignored in history books. It took many yea...more Years ago, I saw the title of this book and it grabbed my imagination. The book didn’t exist at the time; this was originally a sentence in an article that she wrote in 1976. The sentence escaped captivity and was used on t-shirts, coffee mugs and bumper stickers- sometimes without either credit or permission. I used the sentence as my sig. line for a couple of years. Here, Ulrich explores what it means to make history.

Years ago, women were pretty much ignored in history books. It took many years of many people digging through old manuscripts to find the women in history. Now days women’s history books and courses are commonplace, but back when Ulrich wrote that sentence, that was just starting. She frames her book using the work of three women writers: Christine de Pizan, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Virginia Woolf. De Pizan- a professional writer who supported her children with her pen in the 1400s- wrote a book about past women who had achieved power and influence, coming up with queens, warriors, poets, saints, inventors and more with which to people a city of ladies. Christine was ahead of her time, bringing up problems women faced, including violence against them. Stanton was a suffragist and abolitionist with a tremendous writing output. Her autobiography, Eighty Years and More, chronicles the making of a rebel. Told by her father upon the death of her last brother that he wished she were a boy, she figures out that to become a boy, one must become educated. She took care of that, besting the boys in school. Virginia Woolf, writing in the first half of the 20th century, satirized women’s legal and social positions in Orlando, and in A Room of One’s Own, writes primarily about women and fiction but also goes into why women are poor compared to men and why there was so little literature produced by women in the past- because of legal and societal restrictions. These three were pioneers of writing about women’s history, who were rediscovered in the latter half of the 20th century, who were the inspirations for women’s history.

The book is not just about women *in* history but about the movement to bring the history of women to everyone’s attention. Well told in a reader friendly format, this book should be required reading for young women who take their rights for granted.
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Feb 25, 2010 Amanda rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: 2010, popular-non-fiction

I was a little afraid of this book, I'll be honest. First off, I had no idea that Laurel Thatcher Ulrich is LDS until about 30 pages in. This surprises me because I tried (and failed) to read her other book A Midwife's Tale: The Life of Martha Ballard, Based on Her Diary, 1785-1812, which I thought was good, but so boring I fell asleep probably about 275 times reading it. It surprises me that I didn't pick up on it, not surprising that she's Mormon. Anyway, I was suspicious of it because I'm gen...more

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Dec 20, 2008 Maryanne rated it 5 of 5 stars

I've had mixed feelings about this statement (which I've seen mainly on bumperstickers). I didn't realize until this book that Ulrich coined the phrase (it was in a paper she had written about Puritan women's funeral services). I had read her book A Midwife's Tale as part of a college course. In this book Ulrich explores the statement and where it has gone and meanings it has taken on (it can obviously be interpreted in various ways) and then retells the history of the women's movement through t...more

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Jan 28, 2013 Aleta Billadeau rated it 3 of 5 stars

Its obvious Ulrich did a great deal of research to bring together all of the facts and stories that are in this book and I appreciate that effort and the new awareness it gave me.
I do have an increased interest in women's history, now, and a better understanding and appreciation for women who have played a part in making and recording it.
I get the title now- and understand where it came from and the various meanings that have been derived from it. I think the book generates many interesting poi...more

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Dec 22, 2008 Lyn rated it 4 of 5 stars

Ulrich takes 3 historical feminist figures (Christine de Pizan, Elizabeth Cady Stanton & Virgina Wolf) and then talks about their work. These women knew nothing of each other, and yet their work has very similar concerns and threads. One of the important points that Ulrich brings up is that feminism tends to start from scratch every other generation because women do not know their history - historians generally ignore women because of their supposed unimportance. We have entered an age (sinc...more Ulrich takes 3 historical feminist figures (Christine de Pizan, Elizabeth Cady Stanton & Virgina Wolf) and then talks about their work. These women knew nothing of each other, and yet their work has very similar concerns and threads. One of the important points that Ulrich brings up is that feminism tends to start from scratch every other generation because women do not know their history - historians generally ignore women because of their supposed unimportance. We have entered an age (since ~1970) that works by women have been found, researched and documented. Since women know are learning and documenting their history it is possible to continue to move forward rather than the two steps forward, two steps back dance that has been happening for centuries.

What struck me is the resonance I felt with the women who lived hundreds of years before I did. A lot of their concerns are the same as mine! Wow.

These paragraphs end the book and sum it up quite well:

"Some people are happy to give feminists credit for things they fear - like abortion rights, contraception for teenagers, or gay liberation - but less willing to acknowledge that feminist activism brought about things they support, like better treatment for breast cancer or the opportunity for young girls to play soccer as well as lead cheers. As Rosalyn Baxandall and Linda Gordon observe, "Although the word 'feminist' has become a pejorative term to some American women, most women (and most men as well) support a feminist program: equal education, equal pay, child care, freedom from harassment and violence," and so on. Because of the feminist movement, airline flight attendants, many of whom are now male, no longer have to retire at thirty-two."

"These changes are so entrenched in American life that it is hard to remember a time when they seemed radical. That's what worries some historians ... If earlier waves of female consciousness disappeared, surely the same thing can happen again. A new generation might forget where their freedoms came from, drifting back once again into the sandbar of silence"(less)

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Mar 04, 2013 Sara Altizer rated it 3 of 5 stars

What I liked about this is that the title is misleading in a sense. In the Introduction Laurel laughs at the surprising use of those words, when she first used them they were meant as a statement about all of the day-to-day women, living loving beautiful lives who don't receive any recognition because they aren't acting crazy and doing wild things. It was more a statement for that woman as opposed to a statement for the Amazon warriors or the political protestors. However, most of the book is fi...more

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Apr 30, 2009 Rosalía rated it 5 of 5 stars

A beautiful book that at several times brings tears of emotion to your eyes. This book is not what you are prepared to see or feel. You aren't prepared to read about Angelina Grimke and her condescension by other women of her time for being an abolitionist or the Pomo Indians, who were denied the right to speak their native tongue but expressed their heritage through basket weaving and teaching their daughters and granddaughters the art. You aren't prepared to learn about Elizabeth Cady Stanton'...more

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Apr 10, 2009 Maralise rated it 2 of 5 stars

Favorite quote:

"At any given moment it is hard to know whom to believe or what to trust. That's why details matter...Details keep us from falling into the twin snares of 'victim history' and 'hero history.' Details let us out of boxes created by slogans."

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Feb 05, 2009 Bookmarks Magazine added it

Unlike her previous works, which focused on a single location, era, or life, Laurel Thatcher Ulrich's fifth work of nonfiction takes a broad view of women's history. Though critics felt that her associations and organizing devices were clever, a few questioned some of the connections between stories. Critics also diverged over Ulrich's style: some found it dry and academic; others considered it clear and compelling. Ulrich, a pioneer in women's history in the 1970s and 1980s, continues to produc

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Dec 28, 2011 Megan rated it 4 of 5 stars

Before Laurel Thatcher Ulrich was a Harvard professor, she inadvertently created a slogan—Well-behaved women seldom make history—while writing a scholarly article on Puritan women. Since then, the slogan has appeared on bumper stickers, T-shirts, and in funeral eulogies. After years of seeing the slogan used and misused, Ulrich decided it was time to write a book to clarify what the slogan means to her. She does this by taking the reader back in history through the eyes of the women that lived i...more

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Apr 04, 2009 Heather rated it 2 of 5 stars

I really enjoyed reading Laurel Thatcher Ulrich's A Midwife's Tale so I was excited for this one. But I had a really difficult time getting past the feminist undertones that to me seemed to devalue motherhood and choosing to devote one's life to raising children and making a home. I also found it to be an incredibly dry and boring review of historical events I've previously studied in better contexts.

What I did gain from this book was an increased appreciation for women in history who have fough...more

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Mar 22, 2012 Leigh rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: feminist

Great title and concept behind it. Maybe this is the best part of the book as opposed to the examples. Some of them are compelling such as Christine de Pizan and her book The City of Ladies in the early 1400s. Others such as the contemporary Red Hat Society of women who just want to have fun are less so. Also some of the examples such as Virginia Woolf and Elizabeth Cady Stanton are familiar now to anyone who has been thru some academic or activist version of "Feminism 101."
Personally I wld hv p...more

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Mar 15, 2009 Miriam rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: non-fiction

Overall I found this book very interesting, although there were many interesting places where I wished she'd go a little further with a topic she was discussing, instead of changing focus. Besides the history she covered, I found her discussion of women and academia fascinating, in part because I just completed a graduate degree and have never felt that women are underrepresented in academia(if anything, they were overrepresented in my department), so it was interesting to see how much things ha...more

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Jan 20, 2009 Andrea rated it 3 of 5 stars Recommends it for: arm chair historians

I enjoyed reading Thatcher Ulrich's scholarly take on an off-hand remark she made in the early years of her academic career. Clearly she has spent a good deal of time thinking about how women have made history and how they are discovered by later researchers and the public. After a chapter on the history of the phrase, she takes the work of three notable women and looks at how they behaved or misbehaved and made history. The works of Christine de Pizan, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Virginia Woolf...more

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Sep 28, 2010 Melissa rated it 3 of 5 stars · review of another edition

The last book for the "Women Unbound" challenge (ending in November, I think).

I thought this was a very good overview. There are lots (LOTS) of anecdotes and the sheer number adds many more women to Ulrich's history than if she just focused on de Pizan, Cady Stanton, Woolf, de Beauvior, Friedan, etc. I wanted a little more depth, though, beyond the "Big Three" of de Pizan, Cady Stanton, and Woolf because I felt like we were skimming over the top of history. But it was still interesting and adds...more

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Jul 16, 2009 Valory rated it 5 of 5 stars

I learned so much about women from history, ancient and modern, that I now want to delve deeper into their lives and stories -- Christine de Pizan, Harriet Tubman, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Virginia Woolf, and my Mormon pioneer foremothers who published the pro-suffrage, pro-women's rights periodical "Women's Exponent" in Utah from 1872 to 1914. I love the last line from the book: "Well-behaved women make history when they do the unexpected, when they create and preserve records, and when later ge...more

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Aug 18, 2012 Sarah rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: non-fiction, history, feminism

I did not find Well-Behaved Women Seldom Make History as engaging as I was expecting. Laurel Thatcher Ulrich inadvertently invented the slogan that is the title of this book; it was just a sentence in an article she published in the 1970s, but in the mid-90s someone used it and it took off as a slogan printed on t-shirts, mugs, etc. In this book, Ulrich explores further what this idea really means. She covers a lot of ground in exploring the history of women and how they have made history, and t...more

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Oct 18, 2011 Alexandria rated it 5 of 5 stars

Shelves: owned

I've never considered myself a feminist. At the start of 2011, I tried to live my life as one of the guys all the while taking an interest in how the mind works & the differences between the sexes. Eventually, my curiosity drove me to take a look at how women think, I purchased books on the female brain & gender roles and it all lead me to Ulrich's historical account of womens history. I read this book in hopes of coming to terms with my history, along with realizing I was a self hating...more

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Aug 14, 2011 Monica rated it 3 of 5 stars

Shelves: non-fiction, book-club

It took me quite a while to finish this book. Not because it wasn't interesting per se, but mostly because I felt it lacked the kind of complexity that I expected from the title and her introduction. On some level, I expected (following the introduction) that Ulrich was working to re-appropriate the phrase she had coined "Well-Behaved Women Seldom Make History" with a complex discussion of how women have entered the historical record, and I was hoping that she would provide multiple lenses throu...more

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Aug 05, 2010 Leslie Street rated it 4 of 5 stars

What I love about this book is Ulrich's ability to tell a compelling historical story through biographical sketches of individual women. It is true that each sketch just gives you the taste of the life of an individual woman in another time and another place, but each small vignette reminds the reader that history is comprised of both the ordinary and the great. For most of human history, the lives of women have seemingly been left out of the historical narrative, but Ulrich reminds you that ju...more

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Aug 01, 2010 Debbie rated it 4 of 5 stars

My Jen always gives me the best books. This isn't about behaving badly to make history but rather how history has failed to give the well-behaved women their voice. "If well-behaved women seldom make history, it is not only because gender norms have constrained the range of female activity but because history hasn't been very good at capturing the lives of those whose contributions have been local and domestic. For centuries, women have sustained local communities, raising food, caring for the s...more

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Oct 29, 2010 Heather rated it 5 of 5 stars

Oh I really liked this. I judge the awesomeness of a book by how often I stop and read passages outloud to McKay. This gets 5 starts solely because I think I could have read every word outloud to him, except he's trying to read the Chronicles of Narnia right now and didn't have time to listen to me read this whole book to him.

It reads in the same way my brain thinks. Lots of details and it goes everywhere. You start talking about Woolf and end up with the Great Chicago Fire. Now that's the kind...more

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Oct 01, 2009 Rebecca rated it 4 of 5 stars

Shelves: smart-stuff

This book is not a diatribe, in spite of the veiny-armed woman on the cover. The title, of bumper-sticker fame, is not a clear statement but a touchstone-- a demonstration of slipperiness of interpretation, of history, of ways of defining women.

This book is a thoughtful and close look at women and history. Women looking at history, history looking back at women, women lost to history and where they went... I'm afraid I can't do justice to the delicate and enthralling way she weaves together medi...more

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