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Plagues and Peoples

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Product Description Upon its original publication, Plagues and Peoples was an immediate critical and popular success, offering a radically new interpretation of world history as seen through the extraordinary impact--political, demographic, ecological, and psychological--of disease on cultures. From the conquest of Mexico by smallpox as much as by the Spanish, to the bubon...more
Paperback, 368 pages
Published October 11th 1977 by Anchor (first published 1976)
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Becky
Finally finished this book. It took me a while to read it due to personal stuff and the subject matter, but it ended up being one of my favorites (hence the labor of love category). It being a favorite is leading me to believe I have a soft spot for environmental history. Yes the book was much about epidemiology, but the focus was also very much on how certain diseases were possible within certain environments – how they got there, how they survived there, and how those environments were affecte...more
Briana Patterson
This book was alright. The author knows his stuff and he's very informative. Most of his conclusions are reasonable, and he provides a fresh look at history that his contemporaries have not accounted for.

However, I hold several reservations concerning his guesswork where information was lacking. McNeill readily admits that he's working with limited sources and most of his conclusions are fine, but there are times when I don't agree with his logic. There's also some outdated concepts within his a...more
Trista
This is what I call an "airplane book" as no one will bother you when you read it because its so alarming. Other great books on this genre (different authors) are "Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers" by Mary Roach (much more readable, this author has a charming sense of humor) and the "The Red Market: On the Trail of the World's Organ Brokers, Bone Thieves, Blood Farmers, and Child Traffickers" by Scott Carney (a very readable author, very much in tune and sympathetic to the subject at h...more
Katarina
Sep 28, 2012 Katarina rated it 2 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Academics, Historians
Shelves: non-fiction
Honestly, I was a bit disappointed with Plagues and Peoples. I had expected discussion of exactly what cultural ramifications disease epidemics have had throughout history. The movement of disease and the large-scale changes that forced upon populations throughout history was discussed in great detail, but the CULTURAL impact of all this was not the focus. Instead, McNeill took a very empirical, scientific view of history, and chose to look at it as a series of events and interactions between or...more
GoldGato
Civilized diseases. This is the book that first alerted me to the way some germs and viruses have altered human history, much as pigeons have become a part of our daily environment. As we have developed the previously virgin landscape of the world, we have unwittingly unleashed the microbes intent on destroying us. Tit-for-tat. Throw in the 'peoples' element, such as Roman legionnaires turning on their own communities or Mongols burning villages and their occupants into ashes, and one wonders wh...more
Lee Drake
This work seemlessly unites archaeology, history, and microbial biology by looking at how infectious diseases have caused our history. The deepest implications are reserved for our future, but the resolution of the past is brought into clarity as well. McNeil points to the sucess of Muhammed and Alexander the Great and argues that they owe more to diseases ravaging the conquered rather than the military prowess of the conquerer. Simple facts such as the density of cities and the rates of infecti...more
Steve
An entertaining, if depressing, book on how history has been shaped by disease and pathogens. If you liked Jared Diamond's Guns Germs and Steel, this book is all about the germs, and about more than just the modern era: there are interesting comments on the Black Death and the rise of "childhood diseases" and why the tropics are still to be feared in terms of disease (and why climate change is so worrisome, even though that fear postdates the book by a few decades).

Sandra Strange
If you think we control the world, think again. This book traces the influence of diseases on history. It's compelling reading. It's interesting that this is a part of history rarely studied, except for some mention of the Black Plague, in college classes, though again and again disease interrupts the plans and course of men.
Angie
Only a historian would know how to beat a dead horse to this extreme. Unfortunately, the redundancy in the first section was enough to kill the interesting stuff...read this only if you have trouble sleeping or it's required reading for a school course.
Lauren Brackenbury
This book by William McNeil offers an interesting interpretation of the way that epidemic disease has shaped the course of world history from ancient times to the present day, a topic that the author asserts has been neglected in traditional historical accounts. The book is written in a charmingly old-fashioned style which is pleasant to read, although it is at times a bit tediously wordy and the citations are sparser than I would like.

Nevertheless, here is one passage from the Introduction that...more
Everhopeful
In all honesty, I'm rather surprised to see this getting the number of good reviews that it has here! I'm reading it for a Cultural Geography class with the intent to critique it at the end of the semester. If there are additional over-blown words the author can find to make a single sentence more complicated and flowery, he certainly finds it! As for the research and support to his arguments, I'm on page 110 or so and so far he's thrown the FACT that this is based on guesswork far more than any...more
Donna
Well worth the effort to read. Historian William McNeill's 1977 work preceded and probably served as a foundation for Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs and Steel." While its focus is the effects of disease on human history, it does so in the context of ecological relations and in terms of both microparasitic and macroparasitic threats and effects. My personal reading of the past year has been heavily weighted by history and historical fiction. This book deepens my understanding of how the lives of in...more
Steve Wiggins
How does one really "like" a book about disease? In any case, this is an interesting study of how disease and humanity have interacted over the centuries. A bit scary, but good. Further comments may be read here: Sects and Violence in the Ancient World.
Dan
Feb 13, 2012 Dan rated it 4 of 5 stars
Shelves: 2012
This was one of the most compelling books I have ever read. In particular, I admired the sourcing and the boldness of some of the claims; I much prefer scholars putting their necks out on the line with bold, properly caveated arguments, rather than seeing them retreat into timid, easier intellectual spaces. McNeil clearly prefers the former.

At the core of the book, McNeil argues that we should view humans as one species among many in the competition and struggle for survival, facing other macrop...more
Joe Iacovino
The information provided lays out some concepts that seem intuitive now, which made it all the more interesting when considering what happened in history to achieve this new thinking. The writing style has been noted by some as "flowery" or "verbose" (to them I'd say avoid Hawthorne) but I did not find such criticism warranted. The chapters are lengthy at 50-60 pgs each which isn't the style I prefer and there certainly is a lot of repetition in making his points. However, in the author's defens...more
Jeremy Mccool
Although I have some philosophical difficulties with the arguments presented through this book, I believe McNeill's insights into human history--epochs and eras as dominated by plagues and diseases and not by human triumph--are very fascinating. I read this book with vigor, and although some of the imagery is a bit graphic, the narrative does have quite a bit of explanatory power. The base argument is that disease and the business of death have been responsible for the course human history has t...more
Aniya Coffey
I had to read this book for my AP world history class, and although it felt like torture pulling through this book, for the subject Mr. McNeill was trying to enlighten me about, it was just that. Enlightening. Plagues and Peoples basically explained how different diseases travelled throughout our world and affected many different civilizations. It's pretty scary to think about. But, I suppose I would recommend this book to someone always willing to learn about the history of our world and it's h...more
Benjamin
An interesting look at the direct and indirect impacts of infectious diseases. The book is old, and I am not qualified to judge if it is up-to-date. If nothing else, however, it forces one to consider the dramatic ways disease has affected our history.

my favorite quote: "Like a disease invading an inexperienced host population, the incidence of civilized forms of macroparasitism have fluctuated sharply through recorded history--sometimes killing off excessive numbers of the peasants and other wo...more
Zoe Aleshire
Jun 04, 2008 Zoe Aleshire rated it 5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: anyone who likes disease!
Recommended to Zoe by: the dollar rack at half-price
I barely have words for the love I foster in my diseased little heart for this book. Sure, it's mostly just numbers, dates, statistics. There isn't any of that fluffy fictionalization of the history of disease, no "imagine if..." scenarios- but, in its utter simplicity, this book wins. No pontification of other nonsense (not to say I dislike Jared Diamond, haha)...this book is about how plagues affect people. How many die, what happens when a society is affected, the evolution of infection. It's...more
Anika
I read this for a class and got more out of the discussion than the book. McNeill is able to make his whacky premise plausible, but a lot of my classmates were disturbed by how these ideas remove human agency (interestingly, the men were almost all loudly against it while the women were more receptive which I imagine is due to men assuming more agency over the world/active history in general -- but this is just an observation in a tiny sampling of people reading the book, not a thesis!). If you'...more
Sheri Fresonke Harper
Aug 16, 2012 Sheri Fresonke Harper rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Sheri Fresonke by: Dwight Kiel
Shelves: politics, history
Plagues and Peoples discusses the increasing virulence of disease throughout history due to increased likelihood of people coming into contact with each other as society builds in complexity from hunter gatherers toward cities and finally to the interconnected world economy. Diseases discussed include AIDS, schistosomiasis, arboviruses, anthrax, milk bacilli,Asian flu, the Black Death,cholera,blood flukes, canine distemper, childhood diseases, cowpox, dengue fever, dysentary, fungi, smallpox, sc...more
Brigitte
This was a re-read and I enjoyed the book but I found myself wishing for an updated version, as this was written in the 1970s, and I kept wondering as the author referred to places like China and India, which hadn't had, at that point, the same level of historical analysis of diseases that Europe had had, just what scholarly research into both history and medicine, as well as more recent experiences with pandemics like AIDS, could add to the story of infectious diseases and their impact on human...more
Sam Norton
Very interesting, reminded me of Diamond's "Guns, Germs and Steel." Probably one of the most poorly laid-out books I've ever read. 300 pages and only 6 chapters? Are you kidding? Furthermore, each chapter was less a systematic account of the history of infectious disease than the author's stream of consciousness-like babblings. Again, the information is very good, and very interesting, but this book took me over a month to finish, primarily due to the horrible layout. Not a reader-friendly book.
Tonileg
I really like this book which travels the path of certain diseases, like chicken pox or the Plague from roman times to our modern period. Its target audience is clearly the general public because I never felt lost in any crazy technical jargon although well written and thoughtful about how at different periods people think and treat sickness with radically different ideas.
Very fun read, but not for just before you sleep because it will probably (almost certainly) give you nightmares.
Mairi
I found the first few chapters dragging for me for much the same reason Guns, Germs & Steel dragged for me: fewer plagues, more peoples, including long drawn-out bits on macroparasitism (i.e. people making life suck for people). In this particular case, it was just interesting enough to keep me going through it but it wasn't what I was in the headspace to read. The last chapter on the medical evolution was fascinating though and made getting through the rest of it well worthwhile.
Andrew Calderon
The author takes an epidemiological lens to analyze the development of human culture from the beginning of human history (insofar as historians know). The author displays a tremendous erudition of European history and biology. The biological information substantiates his claims about the spread of infectious contagion. I highly recommend this book. I will attempt to write a review worthy of this book later on.
Chrissy
I'm certain this book deserves a far better rating than I've given it; however I really couldn't bring myself to say that I liked it. There were moments where it peaked my interest (when Historical events I'm familiar with were mentioned), and I certainly learned a great deal.

I would happily recommend this book to someone more interested in science than I am... with the note that it is really very dry.
Erik Graff
Apr 27, 2013 Erik Graff rated it 5 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: everyone
Recommended to Erik by: James Irwin
Shelves: history
This is an interdisciplinary work, an epidemiological history of humanity. For me, it represented an entirely new perspective whereby the political events emphasized in standard histories were radically relativized. Indeed, when one compares the devastations and distruptions caused by human agencies to that, say, of rats, the rodents have often come across as more influential than homo sapiens.
Jason
I only made it through 160 pages of this one. It was incredibly boring, and read like a doctoral dissertation, which is a shame because the subject matter was interesting, but the writing wasn't. This could have been as good as Flu or Guns, Germs and Steel, but it lacked oomph and I found it a struggle to get through the pages that I did manage to get read. Very disappointing.
Morgan Christiansen
Interesting ideas, but I found myself reading paragraphs over because I just couldn't understand much of the writing.

McNeill accomplishes his goal of establishing humanity as a driving force in the operation, both endemic and epidemic, of disease, relating to the main idea that disease has played a huge part in history. It's a very tough read, and perhaps I'm being too hard on it...
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