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The Histories: The Landmark Herodotus
From the editor of the widely praised The Landmark Thucydides, a new Landmark Edition of The Histories by Herodotus.Cicero called Herodotus "the father of history," and his only work, The Histories, is considered the first true piece of historical writing in Western literature. With lucid prose, Herodotus's account of the rise of the Persian Empire and its dramatic war wit...more
Hardcover, 944 pages
Published
January 21st 2009
by Pantheon
(first published -440)
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What I learned from this book (in no particular order):
1. Ancient Greeks are quarrelsome and love to waste each other’s city-states for the pettiest reasons.
2. From all forms of government known to man, democracy is the best. Tyrants and oligarchs suck.
3. The Persian Empire is a mighty barbarian nation, but being cowardly, effeminate and slavish, it is eventually defeated by the quarrelsome but brave and civilized Greeks.
4. Among the Greeks, the Spartans are the bravest.Gerard Butler with a si...more
1. Ancient Greeks are quarrelsome and love to waste each other’s city-states for the pettiest reasons.
2. From all forms of government known to man, democracy is the best. Tyrants and oligarchs suck.
3. The Persian Empire is a mighty barbarian nation, but being cowardly, effeminate and slavish, it is eventually defeated by the quarrelsome but brave and civilized Greeks.
4. Among the Greeks, the Spartans are the bravest.
I think I'd like to invite my Goodreads friends to browse any Book you like, then take heart to start with Book I as the inception of the whole inquiry unthinkable to those Greek scholars at that time, but Herodotus could make it and you can't help admiring him when you read his famous preamble, "Herodotus of Halicarnassus here displays his inquiry, so that human achievements may not become forgotten in time, and great and marvellous deeds -- some displayed by Greeks, some by barbarians -- may n...more
The kids bought me this for Christmas and it is a thing of infinite beauty. I’ve been meaning to read these histories for years and never quite got around to it. I had never realised quite how remarkable this book would be.
This version of the book is the third that I now own – I’ve also got a copy of the Penguin Classics and I’ve just finished listening to this as a talking book. But I am going to make my way through this book eventually, as it is hard to focus on many of the details of the wars...more
This version of the book is the third that I now own – I’ve also got a copy of the Penguin Classics and I’ve just finished listening to this as a talking book. But I am going to make my way through this book eventually, as it is hard to focus on many of the details of the wars...more
"When the moment finally came to declare their purpose, the Babylonians, in order to reduce the consumption of food, herded together and strangled all the women in the city - each man exempting only his mother, and one other woman whom he chose out of his household to bake his bread for him."
As the British Government bludgeons the nation with its ideologically-driven 'Austerity Budget', note that the ancients had a strategy or two for surviving straitened times themselves. And they managed to pr...more
As the British Government bludgeons the nation with its ideologically-driven 'Austerity Budget', note that the ancients had a strategy or two for surviving straitened times themselves. And they managed to pr...more
I absolutely adore this book! It is among my top favorites. What I'm sure most people identify it with, if they can identify it at all, is the movie 300. Yes, this book does relate the first, true story of the 300 Spartans and not with comic pictures. It is one of my favorite stories in this book (there are many: suicidal cats, burning of Athens, Croesus and Solon, etc.), but it is far from the baseness of the horribly inaccurate movie.
Although he is the very first historian in Western Civilization, Herodotus has something of a bad reputation for being too gullible. Current critical opinion tends to favor Herodotus's near contemporary, Thucydides, the author of an equally great history of The Peloponnesian War. And yet, as I re-read the earlier book, I was surprised that Herodotus frequently notes that he doesn't always believe what he has been told, but presents it anyhow, if only because the Greek word for "history" is the s...more
I know I made a New Years resolution to only read economics and personal investing books, but dammit I walked by this on my bookshelf too many times. And I was at Keplers the other day fondling the new Landmark edition (which weighs about 20 times my paperback edition), which got me in the mood for some nutty stories about the ancients.
This is what I call a "Godfather" book because as you read it a lot of cultural references will suddenly make sense. (I didn't watch the Godfather until relativel...more
This is what I call a "Godfather" book because as you read it a lot of cultural references will suddenly make sense. (I didn't watch the Godfather until relativel...more
I found this book to be totally fascinating. It was wonderful. Herodotus wasn’t just the father of history, but one of the best raconteurs of the ancient world. Oh sure, he sometimes relied on second-hand, third-hand or even fifth-hand accounts but he doesn’t ever try to purposely mislead. Quite often he stresses that the information he is relying could be wrong.
His whole purpose of the book was to tell the story of the Greek-Persian war, but he starts years before then, goes off on side trips t...more
His whole purpose of the book was to tell the story of the Greek-Persian war, but he starts years before then, goes off on side trips t...more
Hegel and Marx get a lot of credit for changing the way we view the writing of history, and well they should. But Herodotus was highlighting the subjectivity of historical records well before either were born.
Here's a perfect example of how translation really does matter: the Penguin Classics edition of Histories is a very different read from this one. The Oxford translation has more humor, more self-awareness, more of an understanding that even Herodotus doesn't necessarily think what he is rep...more
Here's a perfect example of how translation really does matter: the Penguin Classics edition of Histories is a very different read from this one. The Oxford translation has more humor, more self-awareness, more of an understanding that even Herodotus doesn't necessarily think what he is rep...more
Not for everyone, and even I could read it in chunks, but I loved it. Herodotus, the first historian, eschewed myth, which is why he was the first historian, but he wasn't above gossip and chattiness. This awesome volume has superb maps showing the places being discussed and even the routes taken by people being talked about. The notes are voluminous, and the translation is wonderful. I'm not a classicist, and don't know any Greek, but the classicists I know who do know the original, say it is t...more
May 24, 2011
Karl Kindt
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
english patient fans
Shelves:
2011
It only took me fourteen years to read it, but I finally finished. I originally picked this up to read because of the reference made to it in THE ENGLISH PATIENT, which at that time was my favorite film ever. I stalled reading it over the years, renewed my interest to continue when Frank Miller published 300, and then once more renewed my interest to continue when 300 the movie came out. It is quite a slog to get through it, but there are bits and pieces of stories too precious to not read this....more
A truly amazing book to read. Here is a historian 2500 years ago, writing about events that happened hundreds of years before that, making an apparently sincere effort to distinguish between events for which he has some evidence, and those that are mere stories the veracity of which cannot be confirmed. He makes reference to monuments, tombs, and artefacts that "can still be seen to this day" but he is describing things lost to us millenia ago. No educated person should fail to read this classic...more
It's all in here -- facts, battles, espionage, emotion, sex, beauty, culture, religion, and atrocity. The main characters: Xerxes, Cyrus, Darius, Croesus, Solon, Alexander. This is as enjoyable reading as any modern history. In addition to providing the facts, Herodotus conveys the sometimes contemplative nature affecting his choice of what was "worthy to be recorded." The people and events seem very real because he balances major events with everyday details. The latter include the customs of t...more
I really enjoyed reading this book. I half expected it to be tedious and difficult to read and that its antiquity would make it inaccessible to me. In the end it turned out to be quite a pleasant read and one that was rich enough with battles and ancient mystery to make the modern day reader willing to put up with the odd difficulty. One of the hardest was to be able to read it smoothly whilst at the same time trying to read the exotic names involved. In the end I started just reading the first...more
An utterly fascinating tour of the ancient world in a surprisingly accessible style. Herodotus recounts the foundation and rise of the Persian Empire and its eventual conflict with Athens, Sparta and the rest of the Greek world.
Herodotus may be the father of history, but his style is not yet what we would call "scholarly". Rather, the Histories is made up of countless stories of the heroes and villains of his time. Amusingly enough, he always makes clear when a story seems to him less than belie...more
Herodotus may be the father of history, but his style is not yet what we would call "scholarly". Rather, the Histories is made up of countless stories of the heroes and villains of his time. Amusingly enough, he always makes clear when a story seems to him less than belie...more
Dec 05, 2012
Paul
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4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
classics-ancient-history
This is extraordinary. I'd always thought of it as one of those classic books that, as Twain put it, "one wants to have read, but nobody wants to read."
But it's actually quite a compelling book, and demonstrates exactly why Herodotus is generally considered to be the first real 'historian'. I'd go so far as to say that he might well rank as the first ethnographer as well.
He tells his stories, but expresses skepticism about what he considers fantastical claims, evaluates the reliability of sourc...more
But it's actually quite a compelling book, and demonstrates exactly why Herodotus is generally considered to be the first real 'historian'. I'd go so far as to say that he might well rank as the first ethnographer as well.
He tells his stories, but expresses skepticism about what he considers fantastical claims, evaluates the reliability of sourc...more
I don't know any foreign languages. So when I read a work from a foreign language and culture, I wonder through what lens it is that I'm enjoying or not enjoying that work.
Given that caveat, I enjoyed this book a lot. In many ways, it's alien in style and content. You won't see a lot of distinctions between fact finding and storytelling. Incidents like the Battle of Thermopylae straddle the line between history and myth. The entire book does, really - the latter portions of it less so than the b...more
Given that caveat, I enjoyed this book a lot. In many ways, it's alien in style and content. You won't see a lot of distinctions between fact finding and storytelling. Incidents like the Battle of Thermopylae straddle the line between history and myth. The entire book does, really - the latter portions of it less so than the b...more
Herodotus considered as the father of history. According to modern scholars he was the first to write about events without giving full credit to the supernatural world, a supernatural being such as a god or God. Herodotus writes about events that lead to the Persian -Greek wars in a way as if to demonstrate that events that happens in this world are caused by mankind, not just by supernatural forces that intervene but rather by mankind's decision.
His Histories, is an inquiry of the events that...more
His Histories, is an inquiry of the events that...more
Herodotus was two things at once: an inveterate traveler whose "cross-cultural" curiosity knew virtually no limits; and second a historian whose account of the Persian War and how the Greeks withstood and ultimately defeated Xerxes' immense army is a masterpiece. Overarching all of this is Herodotus' conviction that one can never be assured that success or happiness will remain. This is so in part because we almost inevitably overstep ourselves, like Candaules requiring the affirmation of his fr...more
Apr 14, 2011
Patrick Gibson
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
truth_sort-of
“Only YOU would go around carrying a copy of Herodotus.”
What did my friend Richard Halverson mean by ‘only YOU?’
Doesn’t everyone find the big H. interesting and funny?
My summers as music apprentice at Chautauqua Opera gave me tons and tons of free time and (if you’ve ever been there, you know) opportunity to read things outside any syllabus.
While waiting for some prima donna director to mount the perfect ‘Turandot’ I spent hours buried in ‘The Histories.’
Now, I am re-reading this – and finding...more
What did my friend Richard Halverson mean by ‘only YOU?’
Doesn’t everyone find the big H. interesting and funny?
My summers as music apprentice at Chautauqua Opera gave me tons and tons of free time and (if you’ve ever been there, you know) opportunity to read things outside any syllabus.
While waiting for some prima donna director to mount the perfect ‘Turandot’ I spent hours buried in ‘The Histories.’
Now, I am re-reading this – and finding...more
I read Herodotus in school -- in Latin, point of fact. I don't know if that really counts here, but I've lately come across him again, in my reading of Stacy Schiff's "Cleopatra, A Life" -- He was one of the many male writers who wrote about this exceptional female. When Herodotus is writing about what is principally military history, he's all right --- it's just that... well, for instance - Schiff points out in Herodotus' History of Mark Antony, Cleopatra runs away with the story, but NOT in a...more
Debo hacer notar primero que sólo tuve que leer parte del libro II, y que por lo tanto la opinión que pueda hacerme del libro es bastante sesgada. Pero a pesar de eso aquí va la reseña:
La Historia de Heródoto es una crónica de viajes: en sus páginas, refleja tanto sus inquietudes antropologicas, etnográficas (toda una serie de descdripciones sobre los rituales de sacrificio y los carnavales religiosos), científicas y geográficas (incluida una disertación sobre los cocodrilos y su teoría de que e...more
La Historia de Heródoto es una crónica de viajes: en sus páginas, refleja tanto sus inquietudes antropologicas, etnográficas (toda una serie de descdripciones sobre los rituales de sacrificio y los carnavales religiosos), científicas y geográficas (incluida una disertación sobre los cocodrilos y su teoría de que e...more
Mar 03, 2009
Faran
rated it
1 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
historical-fiction-ancient
This gets 0 stars, but I gave it a single star to avoid misunderstanding, as some might think I simply forgot to rate it.
It also goes in my ancient historical fiction section because it is fiction.
I don't care about the historical significance of the work, the despicable coward who wrote this propaganda was being an aggrandized self-indulger, and a liar.
That people still believe this nonsense is astounding. Never else in history have thousands of men been able to slaughter millions similarly arm...more
It also goes in my ancient historical fiction section because it is fiction.
I don't care about the historical significance of the work, the despicable coward who wrote this propaganda was being an aggrandized self-indulger, and a liar.
That people still believe this nonsense is astounding. Never else in history have thousands of men been able to slaughter millions similarly arm...more
Things I think we can learn from the ancients: "[The Persians] are wont to debate their most serious concerns when they are drunk. But whatsoever they decide on, drunk, this the master of the house where they are debating proposes to them again on the next day, when they are sober. And if they like it too, sober, they act on it; but if they do not like it so, they let it be. And whatever they debate, in preliminary fashion, sober, they give to final decision drunk."
whew...done....that was a slug fest. I really appreciate what Herodotus was able to achieve, considering the time period. However it feels like it was a little too detailed at some points for an everyday reader, and it can be hard to follow the narrative with the book's long digressions. Imagine it like this I want to give a history of Superbowl 1 so I start with the first team.....give an entire history of that team, all the coaches and their history all the previous games leading up to that on...more
Ah, the sublime egoism of the internets, where a mere mortal like me writes a review of Herodotus.
Obviously, as he is the first historian, you should read him. Even if he was boring and inaccurate, you should read him. But Herodotus is certainly not boring, and he's not as inaccurate as a lot of famous quotes from him would make you believe. It's sad, but Herodotus' reputation for inaccuracy, which he had even in the ancient world, comes largely from people stupidly misreading his greatest stren...more
Obviously, as he is the first historian, you should read him. Even if he was boring and inaccurate, you should read him. But Herodotus is certainly not boring, and he's not as inaccurate as a lot of famous quotes from him would make you believe. It's sad, but Herodotus' reputation for inaccuracy, which he had even in the ancient world, comes largely from people stupidly misreading his greatest stren...more
This book is one of those rare ancient texts which you can pick up and just read. No intro class needed, not much context needed either.
The story and the characters flow very naturally, you can read the whole thing without much explanation after you finish - one of the benefits of having a complete text!
Also some of the most memorably quirky things you'll read in an ancient text: a king who is so enamored of his wife's beauty that he feels the need to show her naked to his closest advisor (and...more
The story and the characters flow very naturally, you can read the whole thing without much explanation after you finish - one of the benefits of having a complete text!
Also some of the most memorably quirky things you'll read in an ancient text: a king who is so enamored of his wife's beauty that he feels the need to show her naked to his closest advisor (and...more
May 11, 2007
Steven
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Everyone
Shelves:
nonfiction,
antiquity
This is the first swipe at a history book. Some scholars may go on about, "Thucydides blahblahblah more rigorous blahblahblah."
...but come on, people. Herodotus arguably invented prose. What more do you want from him?
Somewhere between an oral history, a tall tale, a study of military strategy (The tale of Zopyros will haunt my sleep until the day I die.), and comparative anthropology, it's engaging and entertaining.
...but come on, people. Herodotus arguably invented prose. What more do you want from him?
Somewhere between an oral history, a tall tale, a study of military strategy (The tale of Zopyros will haunt my sleep until the day I die.), and comparative anthropology, it's engaging and entertaining.
I read this book on assignment for class and holy crap...what an involved process. I rush read it in less than four days...
It's highly interesting, but I swear Herodotus can't keep focused worth anything. I actually have no interest in writing a review, so here, have all the things I live-tweeted while reading it.
-Dreams can be really messed up.
-"...Astyages had another dream. This time it was that a vine grew from his daughter's private parts and spread over Asia."
-And somehow that dream meant...more
It's highly interesting, but I swear Herodotus can't keep focused worth anything. I actually have no interest in writing a review, so here, have all the things I live-tweeted while reading it.
-Dreams can be really messed up.
-"...Astyages had another dream. This time it was that a vine grew from his daughter's private parts and spread over Asia."
-And somehow that dream meant...more
I've studied Herodotus pretty extensively as he is the basis of a historical novel I just published.
Herodotus is known as the 'father of history' as his The Histories is the oldest history on record (excluding the Bible). The word historie in Greek means 'to inquire.' Herodotus lived about 50 years after the events of the Persian War, which at the time was probably like the World War II of its era. Herodotus was the first person we know of to travel around Greece methodically interviewing vetera...more
Herodotus is known as the 'father of history' as his The Histories is the oldest history on record (excluding the Bible). The word historie in Greek means 'to inquire.' Herodotus lived about 50 years after the events of the Persian War, which at the time was probably like the World War II of its era. Herodotus was the first person we know of to travel around Greece methodically interviewing vetera...more
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Herodotus of Halicarnassus was a Greek historian from Ionia who lived in the 5th century BCE (ca. 484 BCE–ca. 425 BCE) and is regarded as the "Father of History:" As he was the first to use the term. He is almost exclusively known for writing The Histories, a record of his 'inquiries' (or ἱστορίαι, a word that passed into Latin and took on its modern connotation of history) into the origins of the...more
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