The Claw of the Conciliator (The Book of the New Sun #2)

The Claw of the Conciliator (The Book of the New Sun #2)

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Severian is in possession of a gem considered to be "The Claw of the Conciliator", a powerful relic of the Master of Power, a legendary figure of mythic proportions. Armed with his sword, Terminus Est, and the Claw, Severian continues his journey to Thrax, the city of his exile. Bizarre apes, strange cannibalistic rituals, and the foreigner named Jonas all lie in his futur...more
Paperback, 303 pages
Published February 1st 1982 by Pocket (first published 1981)

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Traveller
The Book of The New Sun is one of Wolfe's more contraversial post-modernist experimentations in narrative structure, in which it is hard to judge each volume on its own; -to be fair, I feel one should read the cycle as a whole and judge it as a whole.

...and as to the accusations of misogynism, I don't really see much misogynism in Severian's sexual escapades as much as in his continual judgement of women as being "weak" and his continuous harping on this theme, which does come across as pretty m...more
Kat  Hooper
ORIGINALLY POSTED AT Fantasy Literature.

The Claw of the Conciliator is the second book in Gene Wolfe’s The Book of the New Sun quartet. If you read The Shadow of the Torturer and felt like you were lost (or drunk), and weren’t sure whether things would get clearer in the second book, I have to tell you that no, they don’t. But if you, like me, enjoy that dreamy I’m-not-sure-where-I-am-or-how-I-got-here-or-where-I’m-going-but-everything-sure-feels-fine literary experience, then read on, because S...more
Korynn
Well, this volume starts out by abandoning all the characters introduced to spend time with the last character introduced at the very end of the first volume. If this doesn't catch you off guard, you're a Gene Wolfe fan in the making. Again the environment seems as much a character as the protangonist, the stalwart Severian. Half the time while I'm reading I feel I'm way over my head wading through the middle of some allegory of prophetic literature and every sci-fi/fantasy literary allusion tha...more
Keely
Wolfe has an almost legendary status amongst fellow authors; Gaiman called him 'a ferocious intellect', Swanwick said he's "the greatest writer in the English language alive today", and Disch called this series "a tetralogy of couth, intelligence, and suavity".

You can rarely trust the popular market to single out good authors, but it's usually safe to listen to the opinions of other writers (especially an assemblage of Nebula and Hugo winners in their own right). I will give his fans one concess...more
Jefferson
If Gene Wolfe's The Shadow of the Torturer (1980) is Severian's bildingsroman, depicting his growth from a boy apprentice to a young journeyman of the guild of torturers and his exile into the world outside it, The Claw of the Conciliator (1981), the second novel in Wolfe's four-book science fiction classic The Urth of the New Sun, is his romance, relating his experiences--many involving women he loves--outside Nessus, the City Imperishable, as he attempts to travel north to become the lictor of...more
Jeff James
This volume of the Book of the New Sun was a bit slow-going for me. It's a relatively short book - 250 pages - but the storyline is complex, the cast of characters is large and confusing, and the narrator is possibly unreliable even though he claims to remember everything that happens to him. This part of the story definitely amped up the surrealism, too, which didn't help as far as keeping things straight. I'm really enjoying this series so far, however, and I look forward to eventually reading...more
Geoff Sebesta
I'm going to stick with this, but he's really losing me. It took forever to make it through this volume and I never really figured out what was going on (though there were many, many things that I liked about it, especially the Green Man, the cave with the subhumans, the weird heatsucking beast, the prison and the House Absolute, the final discovery of who Jolesta was, and many other surprising and memorable moments), and towards the end I was so lost that I was getting annoyed. Nothing ties tog...more
Eric Kibler
This is the second volume in Wolfe's tetralogy "Book of the New Sun". In the first volume, lead character Severian starts out as an apprentice torturer and it's not a spoiler to say he ends up as the ruler of a continent (the Autarch) in the final volume. These books are his memoirs, written from the seat of power.

The setting is our world of perhaps thousands of years hence. Space travel had once been common, as had contact with extraterrestrial races. Now there is no more space travel, and we'r...more
D-day
'Claw of the Conciliator' is the second book in Gene Wolfe's 'Book of the New Sun'. This book, somewhat confusingly, does not pick up where 'The Shadow of the Torturer' leaves off, which is somewhat surprising since the end of the first book was kind of a cliffhanger. We never do find out (at least in this book) what happened at the end of first book.
This illustrates the nature of Wolfe's writing, it is somewhat cryptic as we always see Urth through Severian's eyes and he assumes the reader has...more
aPriL MEOWS often with scratching
I think the author got caught up in showing off and forgot he was writing a novel. While brilliant, I can't imagine anyone saying at this point, "wow, exciting series, can't wait for the next one!" And mean it, unless you are a student of mythology, experimental literature and want to do some showing off yourself in reading almost incomprehensible books. Probably readers who have completed Infinite Jest and Ulysses are bragging about having 'enjoyed this brilliant literary tour-de-force!' Which...more
Onefinemess
by: Gene Wolfe

This series continues to be bizarre and disjointed, most definitely by intention.

In addition to the incredibly bizarre beginning - well, OK not actually weird just bizarre in that it skips ahead a random bit past the previous book without telling you - until the last chapter or two - what happened to move the character forward. And even then it's foggy at best, like the rest of these books...

Oh, totally random interjection (BUT RELATED): There just happens to be a weapon in the gam...more
I love books
In apertura di questo volume ritroviamo Severian, il giovane torturatore esiliato dalla Cittadella, che prosegue il suo viaggio in compagnia di Jonas. Dopo essere stati separati dalla compagnia del Dr. Talos e dall’amata Dorcas alla Porta della Misericordia, Severian ha fatto di Jonas il suo assistente e insieme viaggiano diretti verso Thrax, destinazione finale del giovane artigiano. Le giornate si susseguono senza accadimenti particolari, fino alla notte in cui i due vengono rapiti da una band...more
Alazzar
Not since Guillermo del Toro and Chuck Hogan’s The Fall have I read a book in a series that was so much worse than its predecessor.

The Shadow of the Torturer, the first book in Gene Wolfe's most famous series, was amazing. I loved the world, the writing, the protagonist. The only thing I didn’t like was that there was no discernible plot—but I didn’t really worry about that, because as I was reading I kept telling myself that the writing was so good that I didn’t mind waiting for something to h...more
Mark
I finished this book and I'm looking forward to the next one in the series. I will add a more comprehensive review later. It's tough to figure out how I feel about this series. I like it. I might love it.

Words I had to look up online:
indanthrene - a shade of blue.
cacogen - an antisocial person.
hexaemeron - the first six days of creation.
meretrices - plural of meretrix, a prostitute.
baluchither - a now-extinct mammal that was 18 feet tall, 30 feet long, and weighed 20 tonnes. Also called Paracera...more
Nick Tramdack
This book began with some really gothic shit about women locked in rooms. Naturally, I was hooked. Then it got better, chronicling wandering badass Severian's epic pilgrimage.

I note some classic Gene Wolfe lines below:

"Some will say they were at one time troubled in sleeping but have "recovered" from it, as though awareness were a disease, as perhaps it is."

"This world that you and we treasure has now been driven round the sun so often that the warp and woof of its space grow threadbare and fa...more
Jose Vera
Seguimos con las aventuras de Severian hacia la ciudad de Thrax, su reencuentro con viejos conocidos. Nuevos amigos, viejos idolos y nuevas aventuras.

Lo interesante de esta serie de libros es la complejidad del mundo, un mundo muy nuevo que tiene un regusto antiguo en cada esquina y en cada río.

Seguimos conociendo el mundo a traves de los ojos de Severian, el torturador de memoria perfecta, acompañado por la garra del conciliador (esa fabulosa y casi mágica gema) junto con Terminus Est, una espa...more
Dan
Jan 19, 2012 Dan rated it 4 of 5 stars
Shelves: 2012
two down, two more to go...

it feels kind of silly to write about these "new sun" books on a one-by-one basis. i'm at the halfway point, and i think i'm enjoying what a lot of others tend to hate about it - i can't relate to any of the characters (or gene wolfe, presumably), i'm not entirely sure what's going on, i'm not exactly sure how much of severian's narrative should/should not be taken at face value (or how much of the he-man-fantasy-dude-isms are meant to be admired) and, truth be told, i...more
Shimon
Hmm. I read the previous book in the series about a month back, and I was rather startled to start the second book feeling like I had no idea whatsoever how the main character had ended up where he was, and who his companion was. Turns out I don't have a bad memory; the book just skips a seemingly crucial bit of narrative entirely.

So far, my experience with both Wolfe novels has been similar - the narrative structure is increasingly obscure, and I am now convinced this is intentional. Wolfe clea...more
Jason
This book is written by someone clearly smarter than everyone else in the room for an audience of people who are smarter than everyone else in the room. It's challenging and I'm told it's very rewarding to continue through the end of the series, but the esoteric language and possible confabulation on the part of the first-person narrator make this a really slow, difficult read for someone like me who tries to absorb every word and keep track of every character in a sprawling narrative. I imagine...more
Ed Holden
Where to begin? I like some things about this series a great deal: it manages to feel like a quasi-medieval fantasy novel while openly acknowledging that it's set in the distant future, where aliens and high technology abound. The prose is often a joy to read. Many of the mysteries are intriguing and will keep me reading to the end.

But Gene Wolfe drives me a little nuts. To sum up most of my gripes in one sweeping generalization, he handles transitions poorly: as a prominent example, the opening...more
Scott
Second book in the New Sun series. This is where it all starts to take off, as the protagonist, Severian, meets several of the intriguing characters that shape his perceptions of the world. A lover resurrected from the dead, an android with a penchant for amusing quips, a Frankenstein & his monster duo that perform bizarre Genesis plays; these are just a few of the strange beings that populate this volume as Severian wanders farther from his home and continues an almost hallucinogenic journe...more
Sandra aka Sleo
I can see now that I started with book two of the series, but from the reviews of book one, I doubt that reading the first one would lay my complaints to rest. I doubt I would have made it through #1 any more than I'm going to torture myself by reading through this one. I'm not finishing this. I can't tell what's happening but worse than that, I'm revolted by what little I can tell. The main character is an executioner in a revolting and backward society who commits savage actions on others and...more
Derek
oops he did it again... Although in some masochistic way I would look forward to the other books I think I am done with this series at Part 2. It isn't a horrible series but I just don't think it is going to get any better.

Book 2 suffers from the same issues as Book 1 - is it really necessary to use indanthrene to describe a shade of blue? Although kudos to Wolfe for using tribadist and algophilist in the same paragraph during an incredible awkward sexual escapade Charlaine Harris does paranorm...more
Jon Forisha
The second book in the series continues the epic story as if it's no big deal. What I particularly love about this series is how nonchalant Wolfe writes things, all of it appearing to be just another epic fantasy series (albeit a staggeringly beautifully written one) until you actually start to think about the way things are interacting. Through the whole four book series he manages to keep those parts interacting beneath the surface wonderfully, his unreliable narrator Severian forcing you to q...more
Jennifer Wilson-niskanen
I'm not sure what is going on in this series now. I don't know if I should read on or start over. I never seem to really know who people are or what their aims are. It's certainly unpredictable. I barely know what is going on never mind what will happen next, which is quite the thing considering the author told us the end very near the beginning. Very dream like and surreal. Not an easy read but very interesting and original. Lots of layers in the plot and characters. Best SF I've read in a whil...more
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The Claw of the Conciliator is the second entry in Gene Wolfe’s masterpiece series, The Book of the New Sun. Like the preceding volume, The Shadow of the Torturer, The Claw of the Conciliator was critically acclaimed, receiving the Nebula Award for best novel in 1981 and the Locus Award in 1982.

Narrator and protagonist Severian continues his meandering journey towards Thrax. Time skips ahead from the conclusion of The Shadow of the Torturer and Severian fi...more
Jeremy Kohlman
It's hard to know what to say about this book. Which is probably a bad thing. I like the idea of it, but can't say that I particularly enjoyed reading it. Wolfe's "Book of the New Sun" series have been quite a frustrating read thus far. It's like you just know there's a really cool story and characters in there somewhere, but the author is keeping it all a secret from the reader, for some reason. I'm now two novels into the series and all I can say for sure is that a bunch of random weird events...more
Craig
Part two of Gene Wolfe's five part trilogy of the New Sun. Severian the Torturer is my new favorite character, narrowly beating out Nately's Whore. These books remind me of "Faerie Queen" in that it's marvel upon marvel-- just one damn thing after another--and Wolfe, like Spenser, packs his story with allusions to things I'm not well enough educated to understand fully.

Also Legend has it that Gene Wolfe helped design the machinery that makes Pringles potato chips. What more do you need to know?
Tracey
Sep 14, 2007 Tracey rated it 3 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition Recommends it for: open-minded fantasy readers
Shelves: no-longer-owned
The Claw of the Conciliator is the second part of The Book of the New Sun - a fantasy series I started reading along with AuntiePam at the Unaboard.

Th main character, Severian, is still travelling to Thrax, the city to which he has been exiled after committing a crime against his guild. He and Jonas (who is not what he seems) are captured and given a message to carry to an agent in The House Absolute - the castle of the Autarch and its environs.
He gets captured again and manages to escape agai...more
Dev
It weaves a spell perhaps not as powerful as the first, but surreal fantasy is such a hard line to follow. Balancing the character and the events enough to make them connect with the reader and at the same time give the impression of the phantasmagoric can easily become too unmoored and unengaging. Wolfe succeeds and I will read the 3rd installment. Just not real soon. There's only so much odalisquing eidolons with teratoid eremites that apotropaic heliotropes can counter with cacogens.
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Gene Wolfe is an American science fiction and fantasy writer. He is noted for his dense, allusive prose as well as the strong influence of his Catholic faith, to which he converted after marrying a Catholic. He is a prolific short story writer and a novelist, and has won many awards in the field.

The Damon Knight Memorial Grand Master Award is given by SFWA for ‘lifetime achievement in science fict...more
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