Incandescence
by
Greg Egan
The long-awaited new novel from Greg Egan! Hugo Award-winning author Egan returns to the field with Incandescence, a new novel of hard SF.
The Amalgam spans nearly the entire galaxy, and is composed of innumerable beings from a wild variety of races, some human or near it, some entirely other. The one place that they cannot go is the bulge, the bright, hot center of the gal...more
The Amalgam spans nearly the entire galaxy, and is composed of innumerable beings from a wild variety of races, some human or near it, some entirely other. The one place that they cannot go is the bulge, the bright, hot center of the gal...more
Paperback, 256 pages
Published
May 1st 2009
by Night Shade Books
(first published March 1st 2001)
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Maybe 3 and a half stars...
Greg Egan continues to write about the far far future in an intelligent thoughtful creative manner.
On the other hand, you have to be ready to deal with things like a large portion of the narrative of this book focusing on the discovery of newton/einsteinian laws of motion and relativity by an alien race. What made it more annoying to me was that all the terms were made up. So you have to remember that template mathematics means... algebra? and memorize (if you are real...more
Greg Egan continues to write about the far far future in an intelligent thoughtful creative manner.
On the other hand, you have to be ready to deal with things like a large portion of the narrative of this book focusing on the discovery of newton/einsteinian laws of motion and relativity by an alien race. What made it more annoying to me was that all the terms were made up. So you have to remember that template mathematics means... algebra? and memorize (if you are real...more
Sep 14, 2008
Leo
rated it
3 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommended to Leo by:
http://scalzi.com/whatever/?p=1064
This is the hardest SciFi I've ever read.
It comes pretty close to a lyrical exploration of the physics of the General Theory of Relativity.
Not knowing much of the physics, I found some of it a little hard to follow, but overall it was fun, and it looks like on the author's webpage www.gregegan.net there's some nice supplemental material to help understand what's going on.
I'd heartily recommend the book to anyone with an interest in physics, but even ignoring that, it was still a fun, beautiful...more
It comes pretty close to a lyrical exploration of the physics of the General Theory of Relativity.
Not knowing much of the physics, I found some of it a little hard to follow, but overall it was fun, and it looks like on the author's webpage www.gregegan.net there's some nice supplemental material to help understand what's going on.
I'd heartily recommend the book to anyone with an interest in physics, but even ignoring that, it was still a fun, beautiful...more
A much misunderstood book.
I don't think much of an interest in physics or math is needed to follow the narrative or understand what's going on. Certainly no education beyond high school and popular movies is required. An interest in geometry and the history of physics would however definitely make the book more interesting.
It seems many readers were either put off or very impressed because some characters are scientists and a small part of the book narrates their work in simple terms. While that...more
I don't think much of an interest in physics or math is needed to follow the narrative or understand what's going on. Certainly no education beyond high school and popular movies is required. An interest in geometry and the history of physics would however definitely make the book more interesting.
It seems many readers were either put off or very impressed because some characters are scientists and a small part of the book narrates their work in simple terms. While that...more
Da: http://www.webalice.it/michele.castel... .... Incandescence � indubbiamente un buon romanzo, anche se non certamente un capolavoro. Un romanzo di hard SF, con molta, forse troppa, scienza e una dose ragionevole di fantasia. La storia � flebile, con un finale che non � chiuso, come se ci potesse essere un seguito. Ma sicuramente non � la storia l'aspetto migliore di questo romanzo, bens� la descrizione delle diverse societ� che si vengono ad incontrare. La prima � la societ� dell'Amalgama, ch...more
Wikipedia defines hard sci fi as "a category of science fiction characterized by an emphasis on scientific or technical detail, or on scientific accuracy, or on both." By that definition "Incandescence" by Greg Egan is by far the "hardest" science fiction book I've read in my entire life. We're talking diamond hard here. If you're into the action-packed drama of space-time geometries, general relativity, and interstellar panspermia...have I got the book for you.
There is a decent story (lost alie...more
There is a decent story (lost alie...more
Sep 26, 2010
Alan
rated it
3 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Hard SF fans
Recommended to Alan by:
Previous work and a back-pages ad in another Night Shade Press book
Greg Egan's science fiction is hard, hard, hard—it is "hard sf," usually as rigorous as Egan can possibly make it, which can make it hard to read without footnotes or a background in the hard sciences. And, sometimes, it's hard to like.
Incandescence is a textbook example of all three kinds of hard—the textbook in this case being something like Rediscovering Classical and Relativistic Physics. If extended descriptions of orbital mechanics and exposition about f=ma, thinly leavened with characteri...more
Incandescence is a textbook example of all three kinds of hard—the textbook in this case being something like Rediscovering Classical and Relativistic Physics. If extended descriptions of orbital mechanics and exposition about f=ma, thinly leavened with characteri...more
I really wanted to like this book. The story was great. The characterization was excellent... Egan used to be critiqued for having flat characters in his earlier novels, and I think he tried to do better with Terranesia, but the characterization almost took over that book. This one, he got just the right balance. The plot drove the story, but you really got a good feel for the personalities of the different characters. I don't want to say too much about the plot, because it *was* a good plot if...more
Una domanda: scrivendo cosiddetta fantascienza hard, avere alte cognizioni di fisica, astronomia, matematica e quant'altro, esime comunque lo scrittore dal tentativo di, non dico dare una sorta di spessore ai personaggi, ma almeno imbastire una qualche larva di trama che non sia una mera successione rigidamente lineare d'eventi utile solo acché possano spiegarsi (nel doppio senso del termine) svariate teorie scientifiche, fossero pure le più affascinanti?
Perché il libro di Egan questo è, e nient...more
Perché il libro di Egan questo è, e nient...more
Brilliant. Hard SF at its absolute best.
It's almost impossible to imagine a galaxy-spanning civilization in a universe still bounded by the absolute limitation of the speed of light, but Egan manages to do it, and do it well. Yet, the galactic civilization is almost a throwaway in this tale. The true story is about a microcosmic society in a hidden backwater.
The people of the Splinter (from the start, clearly recognizable as some kind of orbital habitat) are clearly post-apocalyptic, their scie...more
It's almost impossible to imagine a galaxy-spanning civilization in a universe still bounded by the absolute limitation of the speed of light, but Egan manages to do it, and do it well. Yet, the galactic civilization is almost a throwaway in this tale. The true story is about a microcosmic society in a hidden backwater.
The people of the Splinter (from the start, clearly recognizable as some kind of orbital habitat) are clearly post-apocalyptic, their scie...more
Apr 15, 2009
Bookmarks Magazine
rated it
3 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
may-june-2009
All critics who considered Incandescence were fascinated by it. They loved Egan's descriptions of a galaxy-spanning, posthuman civilization and the intellectual acrobatics necessary to understand how bugs on a splinter of rock think about their universe. But as with many of Egan's books, one's enjoyment may not be complete unless one can keep up with the physics, of which there is no shortage. "Especially when he's showing how Roi's people derive what amounts to Einstein's theory of relativity i
...more
Incandescence is a science-fiction novel set millions of years in the future. Humans have evolved into immortal data streams that can travel through the galaxy on cosmic rays and reconfigure themselves in any shape they desire. They are know as the Almalgam.
At the core of the galaxy live the mysterious Aloof, who have rejected any attempts by the Amalgan to expand into their territory. The Aloof allow the Almalgam to travel through their territory, but not to stop.
Rakesh is a bored member of th...more
At the core of the galaxy live the mysterious Aloof, who have rejected any attempts by the Amalgan to expand into their territory. The Aloof allow the Almalgam to travel through their territory, but not to stop.
Rakesh is a bored member of th...more
per quale motivo uno scrittore deve autocompiacersi del suo sapere e trasformare, se non richiesto, un libro in un ibrido fra narrativa SF e bigino di fisica avanzata ?
Certo se lo scrittore fosse Jostein Gaarder potrebbe scrivere "il mondo di Sofia", se lo scrittore fosse Oliver Sacks potrebbe unire l'alta cultura medico scientifica alla narrativa e al saggio antropologico, se fosse Robert Gilmore potrebbe ambientare Alice nel mondo della fisica quantistica, ...
ma se non e', perche' ammorbare l...more
Certo se lo scrittore fosse Jostein Gaarder potrebbe scrivere "il mondo di Sofia", se lo scrittore fosse Oliver Sacks potrebbe unire l'alta cultura medico scientifica alla narrativa e al saggio antropologico, se fosse Robert Gilmore potrebbe ambientare Alice nel mondo della fisica quantistica, ...
ma se non e', perche' ammorbare l...more
This book was very, very difficult for anybody other than a scientist or mathematician to read. I persisted, however, because despite all the jargon, the basic plot was quite interesting. I don't know why I bothered. The book had two separate story-lines, giving the impression that these would eventually come together. This did not happen. The two stories were not properly combined, leaving the reader with the sense that the book just ended suddenly, as though the author just ran out of words. T...more
Challenging science fiction about physics, mathematics and scientific thinking.
"instead of things like left/right, inward/outward, or even +x/-x, there is garm/sard, rarb/sharq and shomal/junub"
-- Stephen Cass http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sci...
"The directions within the Splinter are:
���garm = closer to the Hub (the unknown object that the Splinter orbits) / sard = further from the Hub;
���rarb = the direction that the Splinter orbits / sharq = opposite the direction that the Splinter orbi...more
"instead of things like left/right, inward/outward, or even +x/-x, there is garm/sard, rarb/sharq and shomal/junub"
-- Stephen Cass http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sci...
"The directions within the Splinter are:
���garm = closer to the Hub (the unknown object that the Splinter orbits) / sard = further from the Hub;
���rarb = the direction that the Splinter orbits / sharq = opposite the direction that the Splinter orbi...more
The couple of Greg Egan's books I read prior to this one were chock full of mind blowing science fiction ideas. Ideas that require a certain amount of familiarity with science to really understand what was going on in the story. That is why I was excited when I saw a new book by Greg Egan I was hoping for an exciting hard sf read. While this book clearly had some exciting and interesting science in it, I felt the story was a little bit disappointing. Too much scientific detail that just got bogg...more
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I "really liked" this book as seen by the start rating, but I have to warn most people against reading it or at least warn that the writing is very physics heavy. If you have little experience with physics and little interest in thought problems about what could be done with extremely advanced technology, this book may bore you to tears. Not particularly well written but very accurate scientifically, in order for the narrative to grab you, you need either a good understanding of physics or a wil...more
A somewhat enjoyable read, but very heavy on the physics discovery that the residents of the Splinter undertake. Their process of discovery is interesting, though I was unwilling to invest the effort and notes to really follow along with them. Someone more interested in the process of learning or the physics might enjoy it more; for me it slowed down reading the rest of the novel.
My other issue with the novel is surely my fault in understanding, but I simply cannot glean the connection between t...more
My other issue with the novel is surely my fault in understanding, but I simply cannot glean the connection between t...more
"Incadescence" is simultaneously intriguing and frustrating. Egan takes on the daunting challenge of deriving and explaining both special and general relativity without any mathematics at all. But I was left wondering whether the plot was up to the task. Two alternating plot lines gradually build to a crescendo, but both terminate abruptly without a satisfying resolution, and without a strong enough connection between them. I also question the value of a novel that requires the reader to have a...more
Feb 10, 2009
Jack
rated it
2 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
physics geeks
Shelves:
sf-hard
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Science fiction scrupulously adhering to solid scientific speculation and with a plot largely concerned with the development of scientific knowledge. There's a dramatic story, but since most of the characters are virtually-reconstituted post-humans or completely alien aliens, it might leave some readers flat. The drama that is there emerges from the characters in one narrative thread needing to understand the nature of their part of the universe -- the relativity-distorted orbit of a neutron sta...more
An interesting book with two threads: in one, the inhabitants inside a world called the Splinter struggle to understand their surroundings, in the process discovering Newton's laws of gravitation and then Einstein's General Relativity - all without observing the outside universe. What they learn enables them to discover that their world may be doomed unless they can rally around an audacious project to save their world.
In the other thread, two travellers are invited to enter the territory of the...more
In the other thread, two travellers are invited to enter the territory of the...more
I finished Greg Egan's Incandescence and I thought it was okay. Egan is *so* far out in his premise that I had a hard time getting into the book at first - multi-millenial-aged disembodied intelligences? Bioengineered lifeforms living on the inside of an asteroid orbiting a neutron star which is eating a nearby sun? Wow. Egan tosses out more ideas in this one book than many SF authors would use in a series, but the characters all have a kind of cool detachment which didn't draw me in. If you lik...more
Swing and a miss for Greg Egan. This had amazing potential, Egan set up an interesting universe with a nice, if fairly straight-forward protagonist. He then adds what should be an interesting plot. And then he alternates these chapters with a boring physics lesson (and I'm a physics teacher!).
And then he ends the story with little resolution, the two plot-lines never actually coming together, and nothing feeling complete.
Sadly, it seems Egan peaked with Diaspora and has never really managed to g...more
And then he ends the story with little resolution, the two plot-lines never actually coming together, and nothing feeling complete.
Sadly, it seems Egan peaked with Diaspora and has never really managed to g...more
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Much like
Diaspora
, Incandescence is more of a fictional treatise on esoteric ideas than it is a novel. A loosely convergent tale of two plots, Incandescence is a showcase of Greg Egan's ability to think big--really, hugely, mindbogglingly big. Once again, Egan sidesteps the traditional boundaries of consciousness and identity. There is nary a human to be seen in this book--personalities descended from DNA, yes, but nothing we could call humanity. Incandescence is posthuman to a very literal de...more
Oct 05, 2009
Adam
rated it
2 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Shelves:
scifi-meh,
read-in-2009
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The plot is interesting enough that it kept me reading, but the most fascinating part is the description of the formalisms of physics; namely special and general relativity. Considering that I just took a class in Classical Mechanics it was a joy to read what I had been studying as equations for the last part of the semester. The descriptions of the physics experiments do get a bit tedious and the ending is a bit of a mystery. I recommend it to feel the experience of discovery.
This book is formatted such that alternating chapters are alternating viewpoints. I quickly found that only the odd-numbered chapters were readable (although, to be fair, I don't know if any artist could have made a society of small lobsters living on an asteroid going through the process of discovering classical mechanics from first principles an interesting fictional device) and those only somewhat. So, I'm giving two stars to the odd numbered chapters and calling this a mildly interesting boo...more
I definitely enjoyed this book for the most part, for what it is; which is mostly a long scientific discussion as pre-industrial aliens develop general relativity in order to save their strange world.
There's also a second plot thread involving a pair of explorers millions of years in the future, which adds some background to the alien's world. The two plots don't really seem to come together, though Wikipedia claims I'm missing something. I dunno.
There's also a second plot thread involving a pair of explorers millions of years in the future, which adds some background to the alien's world. The two plots don't really seem to come together, though Wikipedia claims I'm missing something. I dunno.
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Greg Egan specialises in hard science fiction stories with mathematical and quantum ontology themes, including the nature of consciousness. Other themes include genetics, simulated reality, posthumanism, mind transfer, sexuality, artificial intelligence, and the superiority of rational naturalism over religion.
He is a Hugo Award winner (and has been shortlisted for the Hugos three other times), an...more
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