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Ils sont allongés sur des lits et parlent de l'Amour et de la Beauté. Leurs discours se succèdent, parfois se répondent : car il y a plusieurs Amours et plusieurs manières de désirer le Beau. À ces hommes vivant en un temps et un lieu où l'éducation des garçons est indissociable de la sexualité qui règle les rapports du maître et du disciple, une étrangère, Diotime, oppose ...more
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Published November 7th 2007 by GF (first published -385)
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Glenn Russell
Dec 12, 2015 Glenn Russell rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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Plato’s Symposium is one of the best loved classics from the ancient world, a work of consummate beauty as both philosophy and as literature, most appropriate since the topic of this dialogue is the nature of love and includes much philosophizing on beauty. In the spirit of freshness, I will focus on one very important section, where Socrates relates the words of his teacher Diotima on the birth of Love explained in the context of myth:

“Following the birth of Aphrodite, the other gods were havin
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Richard Derus
Rating: 2* of five, all for Aristophanes's way trippy remix of the Book of Genesis

While perusing a review of Death in Venice (dreadful tale, yet another fag-must-die-rather-than-love piece of normative propaganda) written by my good friend Stephen, he expressed a desire to read The Symposium before he eventually re-reads this crapulous homophobic maundering deathless work of art. As I have read The Symposium with less than stellar results, I warned him off. Well, see below for what happened next
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Manny
Jul 28, 2014 Manny rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: People confused by Love
OPRAH: Good evening and welcome to What's the Most Spiritual Book of All Time? For people who missed last week's exciting semi-final round, The Sermon on the Mount beat The Bhagavad Gita 4-1 while Jonathan Livingston Seagull unexpectedly lost 3-2 to outsider The Symposium. Let's all welcome our finalists!

[Applause. Enter JESUS CHRIST and SOCRATES, both wearing tuxedos. They shake hands. More applause.]

OPRAH: And now let me introduce our jury. I'm thrilled to have with us living legend Paul McCar
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Riku Sayuj

“It’s been less than three years that I’ve been Socrates’ companion and made it my job to know exactly what he says and does each day. Before that, I simply drifted aimlessly. Of course, I used to think that what I was doing was important, but in fact I was the most worthless man on earth—as bad as you are this very moment: I used to think philosophy was the last thing a man should do.”

In Praise of Love: An Encore

This is a dialogue about the human aspiration towards happiness, and how that
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Ian GalaDali
I Never Met a Physician Who Wasn’t Descended from a Greek

This might just be the work that put the "meta-" (at least the "metafiction") in "metaphysics".

Plato’s name is attached to it, but its principal focus is Socrates. And guess what? Socrates doesn’t so much elaborate on his own views as (1) recount the views of others (especially those of the female philosopher Diotima) and (2) indirectly reveal his views by his conduct and his responses to the views of others (especially the taunts of Alcib
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Trevor
Jul 07, 2007 Trevor rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: everyone
Shelves: philosophy
In this book Socrates argues that it is not always a good idea to have sex with boys and Aristophanes explains we were once co-joined creatures of three sexes - either male/female, male/male or female/female and were shaped like balls. How could anyone not find this a book worth reading?
Eva
Nov 28, 2015 Eva rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Two points about this book that I didn't enjoy. Firstly the descriptions of intimate relations with persons of a very very young age which although not exclusive to the Greek people in those times were nevertheless disturbing to read about. Secondly, in the last pages he seems to be tooting his own horn a lot. Even though he portrays Socrates as this superhuman human we know that Socrates speaks Platos own words throughout the whole text so he seems to be giving these amazing characteristics to ...more
David Sarkies
Aug 30, 2015 David Sarkies rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Everybody
Recommended to David by: My Classics Lecturer
Shelves: philosophy
The life of the party
26 August 2015

You've really got to love the way Plato writes philosophy. Whereas everybody else simply writes what is in effect a work of non-fiction explaining some ideas, Plato seems to have the habit of inserting them into a story. Okay, he may not be the only philosopher that uses a story to convey his philosophical ideas, but he certainly stands out from his contemporaries, who simply wrote treatises. I've read a few of his works, and he always seems to structure it in
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Steve
Sep 16, 2013 Steve rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: greek, philosophy
HEADLINE: This is priceless!

When I was a young man, I and my friends certainly had some strange conversations, possibly aided by some substances of questionable legality in certain countries, but we never quite managed to attain the heights of strangeness reached at this banquet/drinking party(*) held in 416 BCE when Socrates was approximately 53 years old, once again the principal figure in this "dialogue" written by Plato between 12 and 15 years after Socrates' death by poisoning in 399 BCE. P
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Jonfaith
Dec 20, 2013 Jonfaith rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
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And Agathon said, It is probable, Socrates, that I knew nothing of what I had said.
And yet spoke you beautifully, Agathon, he said.


Back in the late 1990s a cowpunk band named The Meat Purveyors had a song, Why Does There Have To Be A Morning After? It detailed stumbling around in the cruel light of day, sipping on backwash beer from the night before and attempting to reconstruct what at best remains a blur.

The event depicted here is a hungover quest for certainty. The old hands in Athens have b
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James
The nature of eros is discussed in this famous dialogue by Plato. Symposium literally means "drinking party" in ancient Greek and this was one well-attended party with the likes of Alcibiades, Aristophanes, Agathon, Pausanias, Eryximachus and Socrates. A variety of views are put forward by the participants during the witty dialog that befits a drinking party. Some believe that eros is a somewhat shadowy thing, neither beautiful nor ugly, good nor bad. The most famous view is Aristophanes myth of ...more
Elham 8
May 18, 2015 Elham 8 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
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چهار پنج سالی از خوندن این کتاب میگذره. یادمه وقتی خوندمش اونقدر خوب بود که گفتم همۀ کتابهای دیگۀ افلاطون رو میخونم. و حتی چندتاییشون رو هم خریدم. ولی خب، وقت نشده هنوز اما سر تصمیمم هستم!
این کتاب واقعاً اندیشه بخش و تأمل برانگیزه. دوست داشتم توی اون ضیافت می بودم و افلاطون رو موقع ادای اون جملات میدیدم و حتی خودم هم سؤالهایی میپرسیدم... به نظرم بهترین ایده ها رو درمورد مسائلی مثل عشق که به اندازۀ عمر بشر موضوع بحث قرار گرفته ن، ارائه میده
Mohammadjavad Abbasi
کتاب داستان مهمانی یکی از دوستان سقراط است که چون در شاعری جایزه گرفته ولیمه میدهد.در این مهمانی همه از شرب و نشاط و هیاهو خسته میشوند و بنا میگذارند هر یک خطبه ای در وصف عشق و مدح خداوند عشق(اروس) بسرایند.همه به نوبت سخن از خدای عشق کرده و در نهایت نوبت به سقراط میرسد و به روش خاص خود(دیالکتیک)معنای عشق را روشن میسازد.آنچه واقعا لذت بخش است وصف هر یک از خداوندگار عشق است که با آنکه مربوط به حدود 2400 سال پیش هست هنوز مضامین ان تازه است و هنوز هم افراد در وصف عشق از همین تعابیر سخن میگویند.واقعا ...more
Sam Quixote
Mar 19, 2013 Sam Quixote rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I'm not a philosophy or ancient history student, I picked up Plato's "Symposium" to challenge myself and see if I could understand it. The "Symposium" is a gathering of Greek thinkers who sit around and give speeches about love.

Phaedrus talks about the greatness of love and how those who have it achieve great things. Pausanias talks of the merits of boy/man love where the boy pleasures the man while the man passes on his wisdom to the boy and that this is the best kind of love, not the lesser l
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Milad soor
Jun 01, 2015 Milad soor rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
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کتاب برای من سبک جالبی داشت . همه ی افراد حاضر در مهمانی نظرات خود را درباره ی عشق و خدای عشق ،اروس، بیان می کنند . ولی تعریفات آخر آلکیبیادس که از سقراط می کند کمی اضافه بود .
Azar Hoseininejad
Apr 04, 2013 Azar Hoseininejad rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: philosophy

ما وجود یک موجود زنده ای را از کودکی تا پیری همیشه به یک نام می خوانیم و آن ها را همانند یکدیگر می شماریم.
در حالی که او هرگز همان نیست که پیش از آن بوده است. بلکه مدام در حال تغییر و دگرسانی است. یعنی مو گوشت و استخوان و خون و خلاصه همه ی اعضای بدنش دائماً در حال تغییر و دگرگونی است و این تغییر و دگرسانی، نه تنها در بدن، بلکه در روان ما نیز جاری و ساری است.
یعنی در بدن ما مدام کار فرسودگی و رویش دوباره ادامه دارد و همچنین در جان و روان ما.
در همه ی وجود ما حتی اخلاق و آرزوها و پندارها و شادی ها و
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Angel Vanstark
I am outraged after reading this. First, the approach that was taken (multiple layers of theory of mind) opposed the main topic, love. How the fuck do you expect to talk about love if you don't even have the balls to honor it enough at a close degree. Why the hell am I, as the reader, supposed to believe what comes from the grapevine; Plato and his crew were sketchy mother fuckers. The second and third issue I had with this piece of literature are more pertinent to culture and how the academic w ...more
Sheyda Heydari Shovir
سمپوزیوم/ضیافت رو بزبان اصلی نخوندم و ترجمهش بانگلیسی رو خوندم و پس در مورد نثرش حرفی نمیتونم بزنم. اما پیشنهاد کوچکم اینه که ترجمه جوئت رو بخونید. اما سمپوزیوم همونطور که مشهوره در مورد یک شبنشینیه که توش شراب میخورند و در مورد عشق حرف میزنند. موقعیت واقعا اغراقآمیزه، قبول کنیم. بهرحال سقراط و چن نفر دیگه نشستهند و هرکی نظرشو میگه و سقراط هم نظرشو که کلش نقل قول از فرد دیگریست رو میگه. این شکل پرداختش بموضوع یکم ریتمش کنده ولی بطور کلی از بامزگی خالی نیست. من بعنوان ادبیاتی واجب ندیدم طرفی ازین ...more
Lotz
May 01, 2016 Lotz rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: oldie-but-goodie
I love Plato—platonically, of course.

Plato could have staked his reputation on being an enormously talented writer, and he would have secured immortal fame. But no, he had to add brilliance to style.

What Plato had that almost all of his successors lacked was a genuine love for the pursuit of knowledge, irrespective of the possibility of its attainment.The Symposium is a perfect monument to this idea. The guests all have different ideas, different styles, and different sensibilities, and all work
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Ahmad Sharabiani
Symposium, Plato , 1935
پس زمین و عشق بودند که جانشین هرج و مرج و بی شکلی آغازین هستی شدند

عنوان: ضیافت، یا، سخن در خصوص عشق؛ اثر: افلاطون؛ ترجمه و پیشگفتار: محمدعلی فروغی؛ ویراستار و پی نوشت: محمدابراهیم امینی فرد؛ مشخصات نشر: تهران، جامی، 1385، در 160 ص، از مجموعه افلاطون، شابک: 9642575000؛ کتاب با عنوان «ضیافت: درس عشق از زبان افلاطون» با ترجمه «محمود صناعی» توسط انتشارات جامی در سال 1381 نیز منتشر شده است، چاپ دوم 1386، چاپ سوم 1389؛ موضوع: عشق، سقراط (469 تا 399 قبل از میلاد)فلسفه یونان

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Clif Hostetler
I suppose one should read some Plato to be considered an educated person. I really want to be an educated person, but this is an example of a book I would never get around to reading if I weren't pushed by some situation outside of myself. In this case the push came from a book group of which I am co-organizer. I am fortunate that the group has attracted participants with knowledge of the classics that exceeds my own. Therefore, my rough impressions from reading the material have a chance to be ...more
Melika Khoshnezhad
کسایی که می گن افلاطون چیزی از هنر نمی دونسته و با هنرمندا لج بوده، اونم بر اساس اینکه شاعرا و هنرمندا رو از آرمانشهرش تو جمهوری انداخته بیرون معلومه اصلا درست حسابی نفهمیدن افلاطون رو. سرتاسر نوشته های افلاطون ادبیات فلسفیه. چون آدم با یه مقایسه سرسری با کسی مثل ارسطو می فهمه چقدرسبکاشون متفاوته و شاید تو تاریخ فلسفه هیچ کس جز افلاطون انقدر با اسطوره سعی نکرده منظورش رو بیان کنه.
مهمانی یکی از بهترین محاورات افلاطون بود که تا الان خوندم نه با خاطر موضوعش که درباره ی " عشق " بود، برای همین زبان
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Anna
Aug 13, 2015 Anna rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
I think I'm just not into ancient Greek sausage fests. And in 2015, there are better texts about love without the pedophilia and women hating.
Naile Berna
Nov 05, 2012 Naile Berna rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
It's quite an experience to read the myths of thousands of years, (such as one's other half by Aristophanes) from the person who told them. I've learned that the setting and sequence of the dialogue also carries utmost importance. We haven't changed much I see.. The thoughts about spritiual love we've come to conclude among friends were recited by Socrates thousands of years ago, a revelation
Ana
Sep 18, 2015 Ana rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
'What then is Love?' I asked; 'Is he mortal?' 'No.' 'What then?' 'As in the former instance, he is neither mortal nor immortal, but in a mean between the two.' 'What is he, Diotima?' 'He is a great spirit (daimon), and like all spirits he is intermediate between the divine and the mortal.' 'And what,' I said, 'is his power?' 'He interprets,' she replied, 'between gods and men, conveying and taking across to the gods the prayers and sacrifices of men, and to men the commands and replies of the go ...more
Antonia
Aug 29, 2015 Antonia rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I didn't expect to like this cute little book so much. I admit I didn't quite get the very last part of it, but otherwise I enjoyed exploring the topic of love thought the perspective of respected ancient Greek dignities gather together to discuss it.
Absinthe
Feb 02, 2016 Absinthe rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: own
Plato is the sassiest little shit ever and I loved this book so much. I appreciate the various ideas presented in this piece, and I don't think everyone has to agree with what Plato is saying to appreciate and entertain his ideas. Also, don't try to read this if you're not already familiar with Greek life (and no I don't mean fraternities and sororities, if that was your first thought this is DEFINITELY not your reading material, just trust me bro). The editor does a good job of briefing the rea ...more
Dusty
Jan 25, 2010 Dusty rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Dusty by: Elizabeth Richmond-Garza
A curious coincidence: It's 2010, and the debate over Proposition 8, which disallows state recognition of same-sex unions, has invited court testimony on the "nature" of homosexuals -- as politically unimportant, as sexually deviant, as likely sexual predators. That's in California. Here in Texas, for my graduate course on critical theory, we've just read Plato's "Symposium", which Edith Hamilton (the translator of my edition) says is one of the man's two best dialogues. Its chief topic is love ...more
Мартин Касабов
Колко хубаво е да четеш оригинала. Платон звучеше отчайващо досадно в учебниците.
Nathan Jerpe
Well now, if that wasn't just a beautiful kick to the side of the head.
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“According to Greek mythology, humans were originally created with four arms, four legs and a head with two faces. Fearing their power, Zeus split them into two separate parts, condemning them to spend their lives in search of their other halves.” 848 likes
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