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That Dark and Bloody River

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An epic novel by an award-winning author chronicles the settling of the Ohio River Valley, home to the defiant Shawnee Indians, who vow to defend their land against the seemingly unstoppable. ...more
Paperback, 880 pages
Published September 1st 1996 by Bantam (first published 1995)
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Ellie Sorota
In That Dark and Bloody River Allan Eckert writes an engaging historical narrative, documenting the settlement of the Ohio river valley and the ensuing war of settlers and Indians. This is the first Eckert book I have read, but it looks like you can't go wrong, with an author who's been nominated seven times for the Pulitzer Prize in literature. His acclaimed "The Winning of America" 6 volume set follows the westward expansion, and has received high praise. Though his intention was to follow th ...more
Laure
This book, about the settlement of the Ohio River Valley, was recommended to me by a fellow cruise passenger last month. However, I found it tedious with it day-by-day recounting which whites died at the hands of the Native Americans, and vice versa. To really keep up with the book, I would have needed to constantly look at a period-accurate map of the area as well as keep a list of which settlers settled where - without those, both the places and names blended all together.

One interesting thing
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Chuck
Allan W. Eckert's "That Dark and Bloody River" covers the history of the settlement of the Upper Ohio River, concentrating upon the settlement of Kentucky and the period from the Revolutionary War until the Battle of Fallen Timbers.

I have been a fan of Allen Eckert's writings since reading his "Wilderness Empire" many years ago. Eckert's unique style is to write a series of short stories about various historical people loosely connected by deed and geography to the theme of the book and loosely
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William
Another terrific effort by Eckert. Using contemporary diaries and documents, Eckert is excellent in conveying the atmosphere/attitude/background of events great and small in the settling of the Ohio River Valley, between Pittsburgh and Louisville.
While some criticize Eckert's "political license" of inserting dialogue (where no documents exist), his years of study of the principle characters, backed by extensive research, should allow him the occasional "license"--which is sporadically used.
The
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Derek
A meticulously researched account of the settlement of the Ohio River valley during the years before and after the American Revolution. Eckert presents a balanced narrative that makes it plain that there were heroes and villains on all sides: colonists, Brits, and native Americans. And the names emerging from that period of history--Simon Kenton, Sam Brady, Lewis Wetzel, Blue Jacket--are not the ones you expect. (Daniel Boone is there, but his story is reserved for another Eckert work, The Court ...more
Sharon
Apr 22, 2008 Sharon added it
It is really not fiction. The author Allen Eckart ex-
plains in his preface that he has used direct quotes which are based on original documents; this makes it not academic history, but generally it agrees with more conventional sources I have read. It covers the
history of the Ohio Valley from the pre-English inva-
sions to beyond the cession of most of Ohio in the
Treaty of Greenville of 1794. Relatives of mine were
involved in massacres of Indians and were in turn mas-
sacred themselves: at least t
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Chrisl
Print too small. Toxic hand cream residue. Won't be able to read this library copy. Three stars for brief history lesson and potential,

Interesting hybrid. Library of Congress cataloging - History, Dewey 977. Regional library shelves as fiction. Short history lesson at beginning of book, followed by faction novel.

Do recommend author's Hawk book.
Incident at Hawk's Hill

Some quotes from early pages :

"It was a time of flux, with various tribes almost constantly warring with one another. What were l
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Marty Grant
This book helps us understand the dilemma of both pioneer settlers and Native Americans during the white man's advance across the Ohio River in the late 1700's.
Erin
I was interested in reading this historical-fiction book because it mentions one of my ancestors in several places. I had hoped it would talk a little more about the boating industry that developed along the river, as another ancestor was a boatman on the Ohio; unfortunately I was disappointed in that. The book was interesting. The intro wasn't very narrative, and felt too long; though it did serve as a good background. The first-hand testimonies of events really helps to paint a picture of why ...more
Candice
I wanted to know more about the history of the area I grew up in. This really is a historic record based on extensive research. I thought it was well written and very interesting. Most of the entries were short reports of the experiences of people who were instrumental in the white man's settlement of the Ohio Valley, which includes Ohio, western Pennsylvania, and Kentucky. It also presents the story from the Native Americans' viewpoint. Basically, the settlers were ruthless, the new American Co ...more
Lisa
"Comprehensive and riveting..." is what The Columbus Dispatch review said of this Eckert masterpiece. I found this book delivered these promises, and then some. This book takes the reader deeper into the story started in Eckert's, The Frontiersmen.

That Dark and Bloody River tells the compelling story of the settling of the Ohio River Valley. The courage described of both the Whites and the Native Americans during the struggle is awe inspiring.

Eckert transports the reader to a time we can only
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Doug
Aug 20, 2008 Doug rated it 5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: any guy
Recommended to Doug by: Stu Anderson
Great book. Though it can be dry at times (especially at the beginning), but it more than makes up for it. It reminds you how violent the history of the US was and that the country is really built on a river of blood. Tells the gruesome tales of the settlement of the Ohio river valley and the warring which occurred between the indians and american settlers. Many atrocities committed by both side make this book very dark and very hard to put down. Just a great book, and will likely give anyone a ...more
Brian Andersen
I have read other Eckert books but I will admit I put this one off because of its size. It is a great book packed with much information told in an entertaining way. You really should read all the notes that enhance the story. Some of them are quite lengthy but help explain the background or important details about what happens later that would otherwise distract from the narrative. It also helps if you have a pretty good overview of this period of history prior to reading but it still stands on ...more
Kerry Zane
On the one hand, this is an excellent book, well written for its subject matter. Were I anyone else, I'd leave it at that. However, I'm also a Zane, a direct descendant of the Zane family that figures prominently in the book. My problem here is that Eckert pretty much took as gospel what western author Zane Grey said in his first three novels--Betty Zane, Spirit of the Border, The Last Trail--about the family (yes, Zane Grey was a distant cousin). Grey, for instance, said the first Zane was an e ...more
Nancy Houston Fields
Having grown up in the Ohio Valley, I found this book to be a fascinating account of events surrounding the settlement of that area. As a genealogist, it is a wealth of knowledge for anyone searching for ancestors who lived in the real "wild West" of Western PA/VA and Ohil River Valley.
Kay
Fascinating story of the Ohio River Valley. Got this book because it is related to my Genealogy. Helps me to understand their lives. Some were mentioned in the book. It was a very bloody time. Must have taken a lot of courage or desperation to settle in those times.
Matthew
Absolutely wonderful book detailing the early conflicts of native peoples and anglo-americans. With this book you get to intimitely know lesser known figures of American history like Logan, Cornstalk, Samuel McCulloch, the Greathouse brothers and Michael Cresap.
Jim LaSalle
A novel based on historical events during before, during and after the US War of Independence. Gives insight to the daily lives of settlers along the Ohio River. Especially interesting if you have lived or traveled in the Ohio River Valley. Heavily footnoted.
Claudia
Why this is classified as a novel here on GoodReads is baffling. It is, in fact, a meticulously researched and detailed account of the settling of the 1,000 mile long Ohio River. It is 630 pages in length with 200 pages of footnotes.

Richard Schick
It is so easy to think of the frontier as the far west, the battle for the Ohio River valley was the more epic. The Indian nations were at their full strength and glory and the greed and ruthlessness of the whites unbridled.
Sherrandy Swift
An excellent read about the dangers of frontier life during the settling of the Ohio River Valley. Discusses the wars between the Indians and the white settlers encroaching upon their land.
Nick Vulich
Wow! Comprehensive overview of settlement along Ohio River

Great read. Would definitely recommend to anyone interested in American history. Definitely shows the early settlers for what they were: a bunch of land hungry thieves intent on taking over Indian lands. Also paints an interesting picture of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. They're not the saints you think. Both men helped develop the policy used to steal Indian lands, especially George Washington.

It's a long read but well worth th
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Sally
I picked up this book because we were vacationing in Kentucky and Ohio and wanted a little historical perspective. Eckert never disappoints!
Jim Hering
If you are interested in historical biography and have an interest in the settlement of the Ohio Valley, this is the book for you. Well written.
Dennis
Another great book by A. Eckert. For those interested in history of settlements along the Ohio River, and beyond I highly recommend it.
Barbara Ramsey
Dark and bloody indeed. Sometime simply a listing of atrocities committed. Good history though of a small geographical area.
Tracy Wilson
Excellent book about the settling of the Ohio river area. Highly recommended for those interested in early US history
Valentine
Jul 14, 2008 Valentine rated it 5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: History buffs
Fantastic narrative history of the Ohio River Valley. Hard to put down, even though it's 630+ pages.
James Robert
Simply excellent. Daniel Boone, Tecumseh, Blue Jacket. All told by Eckert?? Yes, please.
Marlyn
Very good book about the early settlement of the Ohio Valley. Enjoyed it very much.
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Allan W. Eckert was an American historian, historical novelist, and naturalist.

Eckert was born in Buffalo, New York, and raised in the Chicago, Illinois area, but had been a long-time resident of Bellefontaine, Ohio, near where he attended college. As a young man, he hitch-hiked around the United States, living off the land and learning about wildlife. He began writing about nature and American hi
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“In spite of these disasters, some of the tribesmen continued to fight for their territory, but they were quickly overwhelmed and taken into captivity, placed aboard ships and sold as slaves in the West Indies. At the same time the whites were bringing to America their own slaves whose skins were black. The first shipments of these unfortunates were brought to Jamestown for sale by the Dutch in 1619. Within two decades the British realized what a lucrative trade slavery was, so they ousted the Dutch slave traders and, in 1639, established their own Royal African Company to make massive raids on the native villages of the Dark Continent and bring the chained captives to America to satisfy the ever-growing demand for slave labor.6 In all such matters, the human cruelty inflicted on people of either red skin or black was of precious little concern to the imperious British.” 0 likes
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