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Forty Signs of Rain (Science in the Capitol #1)
The bestselling author of the classic Mars trilogy and The Years of Rice and Salt returns with a riveting new trilogy of cutting-edge science, international politics, and the real-life ramifications of global warming as they are played out in our nation’s capital—and in the daily lives of those at the center of the action. Hauntingly realistic, here is a novel of the near...more
Paperback, 432 pages
Published
July 26th 2005
by Spectra
(first published 2004)
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I thought I should finally try some Kim Stanley Robinson, as he’s kind of a classic at this point. This was…huh. I’m not really sure what this was. It was the first book in a trilogy, certainly—I’m not sure I’ve ever read such a long book that was almost entirely setup. Seriously, almost nothing happened until the very end—though that end is very dramatic. I wasn’t particularly wowed by the writing—DUDE PUNCTUATE YOUR DIALOGUE DO YOU SEE HOW ANNOYING THIS IS KTHX—or the characters, either; Frank...more
Kim Stanley Robinson does not know how to edit. Likely he could have combined this three book series into one book without losing much content. Alternatively, he could have retained the length of the story and just ensured that something interesting happened more frequently than every 150 pages.
The information about rapid climate change is interesting. The the politics around trying to intervene in environmental disaster, and the methods explored to achieve this make for an intriguing premise.
The information about rapid climate change is interesting. The the politics around trying to intervene in environmental disaster, and the methods explored to achieve this make for an intriguing premise.
I have to admit to feeling ambivalent about Kim Stanley Robinson's Forty Signs of Rain. This is another of my "picked up on a whim" books, in this case because I was in the mood to read a vaguely-SFish novel about what happens when global warming wreaks hardcore havoc on the planet. Sort of like The Day After Tomorrow, only in prose form, and presumably with a stronger story since it's after all written by a Hugo-award-winning author.
There are quite a few beefs raised about this book on its Amaz...more
There are quite a few beefs raised about this book on its Amaz...more
*mild spoilers*
Elmore Leonard once said “I try to leave out the parts that people skip.” Kim Stanley Robinson did not heed this advice, and I was able to skim long swathes of this odd book. As someone who lives in DC and works on climate change issues for the federal government, I was ready to love it. It turns out, however, that workmanlike descriptions of local color do little to leaven painstakingly detailed descriptions of bureaucratic tasks and conference calls. After a while I realized I o...more
Elmore Leonard once said “I try to leave out the parts that people skip.” Kim Stanley Robinson did not heed this advice, and I was able to skim long swathes of this odd book. As someone who lives in DC and works on climate change issues for the federal government, I was ready to love it. It turns out, however, that workmanlike descriptions of local color do little to leaven painstakingly detailed descriptions of bureaucratic tasks and conference calls. After a while I realized I o...more
**This review covers all three books in the 'Science In The Capitol Trilogy- the other two are Fifty Degrees Below and Sixty Days and Counting**
Where to begin with this compact, neat little trilogy? These three books are strange because I both liked and disliked them all the same time, which isn't unusual for me, but in this case it can be put down to a simple divide: I like Kim Stanley Robinson's writing, science and technology. In this particular trilogy however, I don't like his politics. We...more
Where to begin with this compact, neat little trilogy? These three books are strange because I both liked and disliked them all the same time, which isn't unusual for me, but in this case it can be put down to a simple divide: I like Kim Stanley Robinson's writing, science and technology. In this particular trilogy however, I don't like his politics. We...more
Kim Stanley Robinson has made quite the reputatation as a science-fiction writer with his Mars trilogy winning numerous awards and accolates (all of them deserved).
Now, he’s back with a new trilogy. And while it would be easy to classify it as science-fiction, that might be selling the book short. Forty Signs of Rain is more than a science-fiction story, it’s a cautionary tale of what could go wrong if we don’t start paying attention to the environment.
What I liked about this book is there are s...more
Now, he’s back with a new trilogy. And while it would be easy to classify it as science-fiction, that might be selling the book short. Forty Signs of Rain is more than a science-fiction story, it’s a cautionary tale of what could go wrong if we don’t start paying attention to the environment.
What I liked about this book is there are s...more
This first in a trilogy is listed in SciFi, but it could easily be found in the regular fiction section, since everything in this book is perfectly believable and probably even prophetic.
The story revolves around a group of people involved in the problem solving efforts to respond to the very real evidence of global climate change. There is a lot of science discussed, which made it very interesting and educational, I thought, and shows what just might happen in the very near future if we don't g...more
The story revolves around a group of people involved in the problem solving efforts to respond to the very real evidence of global climate change. There is a lot of science discussed, which made it very interesting and educational, I thought, and shows what just might happen in the very near future if we don't g...more
This is the first book in a trilogy of science-fiction novels.
I read this book out of order with the second. I was hoping that this book would be better than the next, that the middle book served as a connector between the ends -- instead, I enjoyed this book less.
The writing is easy to read, and the author is generally quite good. The characters are somewhat interesting. The main problem with this book is that not much really happens. Its main function is clearly to set up the background for ev...more
I read this book out of order with the second. I was hoping that this book would be better than the next, that the middle book served as a connector between the ends -- instead, I enjoyed this book less.
The writing is easy to read, and the author is generally quite good. The characters are somewhat interesting. The main problem with this book is that not much really happens. Its main function is clearly to set up the background for ev...more
Nov 26, 2012
Bradley
rated it
4 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Shelves:
ebook,
science-fiction
Kim Stanley Robinson is best known for his award-winning Mars trilogy (
Red Mars
,
Green Mars
, and
Blue Mars
) as well as
The Years of Rice and Salt
. With the publication of his newest novel,
Forty Signs of Rain
, Kim Stanley Robinson begins another trilogy of epic proportion.
Set primarily in Washington, D.C., Forty Signs of Rain tells the tale of a young environmental policy analyst for a popular U.S. Senator, and his wife, a scientist with the National Science Foundation. The book details man...more
Set primarily in Washington, D.C., Forty Signs of Rain tells the tale of a young environmental policy analyst for a popular U.S. Senator, and his wife, a scientist with the National Science Foundation. The book details man...more
This is the first in a trilogy about climate change. I think the author decided to really take his time because nearly nothing happened in this book. A scientist becomes passionate about life. A staffer on the Hill pushes for legislative action on global warming. Some Tibetans from an island nation threatened by rising sea levels move to Washington. And there is a big flood at the end.
That's pretty much it.
Kim Robinson is a good writer, so this wasn't hard to read, but it was a very long arc to...more
That's pretty much it.
Kim Robinson is a good writer, so this wasn't hard to read, but it was a very long arc to...more
So policy-wonkish and earnest and unabashedly didactic. Behind the scenes among NSF technocrats and congressional advisers and West Coast biotech researchers. It was like the first half-hour of a disaster movie - always my favorite part - when the scientists are imparting the rudimentary science to the viewers, before the real "action" begins (at which I become bored). Dialogue that breaks all the rules - He: "Oh look it's the Gini coefficient! You're familiar with it, right?" She: "No. Can you...more
Have you ever seen the movie Day After Tomorrow where Global Warning almost ends the world and kills everyone in horrible ways? This is NOT THAT BOOK. For those of you that don't read KSR, his books are SO well researched and grounded in REAL science, they are called future history, not sci-fi.
The entire series takes place somewhere between tomorrow and 100 years from now. The north and south poles melt to the point that the ocean gets desalinated (less salt), and without the weight of the salt...more
The entire series takes place somewhere between tomorrow and 100 years from now. The north and south poles melt to the point that the ocean gets desalinated (less salt), and without the weight of the salt...more
Ummmm ... OK, I have mixed feelings about this one. I liked it well enough to read the whole thing, that says something. It was kind of interesting and kept my attention. On the other hand, I thought I was going to read a disaster book with a public conscience. Instead, I got a policy book with a plot.
Here's my movie analogy:
I thought I was going to watch a disaster movie.
At some point I realized it was more like I was watching a movie about a group of people watching a disaster movie.
Later, I...more
Here's my movie analogy:
I thought I was going to watch a disaster movie.
At some point I realized it was more like I was watching a movie about a group of people watching a disaster movie.
Later, I...more
If State of Fear ( http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/... ) were well-informed and written about ten times better, it might be something like this book.
While not nearly as good as the Mars trilogy or Antarctica, this is a solid novel about the politics of climate change and the human consequences. The four main characters all live in Washington D.C. and are involved in the hill's affairs as NSF scientists, senatorial staff, and private-sector researchers. As usual, scientists and the scientifi...more
While not nearly as good as the Mars trilogy or Antarctica, this is a solid novel about the politics of climate change and the human consequences. The four main characters all live in Washington D.C. and are involved in the hill's affairs as NSF scientists, senatorial staff, and private-sector researchers. As usual, scientists and the scientifi...more
3 and a half stars. near future environmental sf: first of a trilogy. starts a bit slow: a lot of the book is setup for the trilogy, making me wonder if it wouldn't have been better to make two books out of that rather than three. anyone expecting a thriller, an elaborate plot, or an absence of scientific concepts will be disappointed, but that's usual with Robinson: he's a writer of many layers and complex personalities, who writes people the reader can care about from the inside out, and he's...more
I first heard of this book before the last series of big storms that were to hit California. I head of KSR as an author of other books and have the California Trilogy and Mars Trilogy books in my 'to read' queue. Due to the storm, I pushed this one to the top.
It is book one of a trilogy and most of the action -- the disaster porn I was looking for -- didn't come until the last 10% of the book. A lot of the setup in the first 90% started out as interesting but really would bog down the pacing. M...more
It is book one of a trilogy and most of the action -- the disaster porn I was looking for -- didn't come until the last 10% of the book. A lot of the setup in the first 90% started out as interesting but really would bog down the pacing. M...more
I've been interested in Kim Stanley Robinson for a while, since I muttered something to my sister about wanting books that dealt with limited resource management and she mentioned his Years of Rice and Salt. Then on a much later ecological sci-fi (which I feel a pull to write myself) hunt, I discovered some loglines that made him sound like my beloved Ursula K LeGuin; the description of his Three Californias trilogy, to be precise. Plus, he lives in Davis! *I* know people who live in Davis! So I...more
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I just finished Forty Signs of Rain (2004), the first volume of Kim Stanley Robinson's latest trilogy, on the subjects of rapid climate change and how the processes of science and scientists work (or don't work, in some cases). I love the realistic feeling of this novel - from the fascinating bits of science to the characters to the workings of the NSF, a biotech startup, and a senator's office. Set in the very near future, this book rang true for me...more
I just finished Forty Signs of Rain (2004), the first volume of Kim Stanley Robinson's latest trilogy, on the subjects of rapid climate change and how the processes of science and scientists work (or don't work, in some cases). I love the realistic feeling of this novel - from the fascinating bits of science to the characters to the workings of the NSF, a biotech startup, and a senator's office. Set in the very near future, this book rang true for me...more
I gave this book 4 stars because there were so many things I loved about it. First, it is set in Washington, DC, my hometown, during an ecological catastrophe. All of the lower lying areas are completely flooded, and the descriptions of the flooding were beautifully written and accurate. Second, the scientists and their discussions about their work and funding decisions were right on the mark. I loved them. The politics of legislative decisions was great as well, and would make good reading for...more
I found this over the list "Climate Change Fiction" I recently started.
There is not much happening for most of the novel. Most of it is just everyday life. I think this is more "scientist fiction" than "science fiction", since it largely deals with what scientists think and feel when doing their jobs.
The book doesn't tell the reader when things are supposed to be happening. Therefore there it is very difficult to say how realistic the developments on climate change are.
Clearly the author had a c...more
There is not much happening for most of the novel. Most of it is just everyday life. I think this is more "scientist fiction" than "science fiction", since it largely deals with what scientists think and feel when doing their jobs.
The book doesn't tell the reader when things are supposed to be happening. Therefore there it is very difficult to say how realistic the developments on climate change are.
Clearly the author had a c...more
It seems to me that this story would be rather dull for most people. What I found interesting about it was the insider information on the NSF and NSA. I imagine the NSF stuff is pretty accurate, but the author seems to think the NSA only hires people for one year. That is far from the truth. The people I know who work there are there for life, it seems. Robinson goes into quite a bit of detail about the LaJolla area, including the campus of UCSD, my alma mater. This material was fun for me, alth...more
This is the first book in z trilogy in which the story continues in the following volumes, so what I say about the one book may not properly reflect the series.
The book has interesting dialogs and examples about the relationships between science, government, economics and business; and some readers will enjoy character material. Some readers will be satisfied with just that. As a science fiction novel or as a topical novel on climate change, it's limited. The story is set at what only appears to...more
The book has interesting dialogs and examples about the relationships between science, government, economics and business; and some readers will enjoy character material. Some readers will be satisfied with just that. As a science fiction novel or as a topical novel on climate change, it's limited. The story is set at what only appears to...more
Dit is m'n eerste KSR-boek. De auteur stond al enkele jaren op mijn "te lezen" lijstje, vooral dan wat z'n "Mars"-trilogie betreft, maar het is er nog niet van gekomen, ook omdat het geen echte prioriteit was. Ik heb die trilogie ook (nog?) niet in m'n bezit, dus wordt dat lezen wel iets moeilijker.
Maar dan zie je een van z'n boeken op het boekenfestijn (in Kortrijk in april 2013) liggen en denk je "ja, waarom niet?". Bij thuiskomst bleek dat het om deel 3 ("De Verschroeide Aarde") gaat in de "S...more
Maar dan zie je een van z'n boeken op het boekenfestijn (in Kortrijk in april 2013) liggen en denk je "ja, waarom niet?". Bij thuiskomst bleek dat het om deel 3 ("De Verschroeide Aarde") gaat in de "S...more
Aug 24, 2010
Brian Maicke
rated it
2 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Shelves:
contemporary,
science-fiction
I picked this up thinking it was a one shot story, instead it turned out to be the first book in a trilogy, so perhaps my rating is tempered by my expectations.
Forty Signs of Rain is not a traditional science-fiction novel, in fact, its more of a cross between environmental activism and eco-thriller with some science thrown in. My main gripe is that nothing much happens in the book. This first book serves as one long introduction to all the characters and provides the political backdrop in DC an...more
Forty Signs of Rain is not a traditional science-fiction novel, in fact, its more of a cross between environmental activism and eco-thriller with some science thrown in. My main gripe is that nothing much happens in the book. This first book serves as one long introduction to all the characters and provides the political backdrop in DC an...more
I think, all three of the books in this series, should have been published as one. None of the three novels stand on their own. Except for never really buying the love story and not particularly liking Frank as a person, I really enjoyed these books. It made me want to look into Buddhism a little more carefully. I did however get a bit depressed about our current environmental situation. A lot of the solutions although perhaps technically achievable I'm afraid I just don't see the political will...more
Since this author spoke at my son's graduation from UCSD, I thought I'd give his work a try - and will now read more of it. I was particularly struck by the parallels between his theme of scientists' frustration with their role in studying global climate change when more directly helpful actions seem called for and what's been going on in the Gulf of Mexico with the giant BP oil spill. There's an article in the NYT about bluefin tuna, noting that even as the oil spreads into bluefin spawning ter...more
I'd give it 5 stars if he'd cut back on some of the ruminating on Emerson and other philosophical musings--it makes it hard to recommend to people as a plausible scenario for dealing with climate change--too many potential readers would be put the book down as too wordy. I do wish Obama would read this trilogy (it includes Fifty Degrees Below and Thirty Days and Waiting) and take it to heart. Robinson is the best hard science spec fiction writer I've ever read. He makes the oncoming disaster of...more
The writing is okay (quite readable but nothing special) and the idea is pretty good, but the core problem with this book is that nothing happens for the first 75%. You could compress the first 300 pages down to 50 and the book wouldn't lose anything in quality of story, because you'd still get to know the main characters as much as you need to. Instead, I now know them better than I know many of my cousins. Clearly, I should have spent my reading time on the phone with my cousins instead.
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A re-read for the Powells sf group to be discussed at Powells Beaverton on Tuesday Dec 11th at 7pm. I liked this a bit better than I remembered - perhaps because I liked Frank in the 2nd book and therefore I liked him better on a reread in the first book. There was even a storm Sandy drowning a city - though DC rather than New York and as a Tropical Storm rather than a Hurricane. Still I liked its discussion of doing science in the US. And its relationship to Buddha. But is it science fiction? W...more
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Kim Stanley Robinson is an American science fiction writer, probably best known for his award-winning Mars trilogy.
His work delves into ecological and sociological themes regularly, and many of his novels appear to be the direct result of his own scientific fascinations, such as the 15 years of research and lifelong fascination with Mars which culminated in his most famous work. He has, due to his...more
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His work delves into ecological and sociological themes regularly, and many of his novels appear to be the direct result of his own scientific fascinations, such as the 15 years of research and lifelong fascination with Mars which culminated in his most famous work. He has, due to his...more
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