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Godslayer (The Sundering #2)
by
Jacqueline Carey (Goodreads Author)
IF ALL THAT IS GOOD CONSIDERS YOU EVIL, ARE YOU?
Once human but now immortal, Supreme Commander Lord Tanaros fled the realm of Men and chose darkness when he killed his adulterous wife and his liege king who cuckholded him. A thousand years have passed in service to his master, the dark god Satoris. The world view Satoris as Evil Prime and the name of Tanaros is the byword...more
Once human but now immortal, Supreme Commander Lord Tanaros fled the realm of Men and chose darkness when he killed his adulterous wife and his liege king who cuckholded him. A thousand years have passed in service to his master, the dark god Satoris. The world view Satoris as Evil Prime and the name of Tanaros is the byword...more
Paperback, 416 pages
Published
June 27th 2006
by Tor Fantasy
(first published 2005)
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This is a review for the series. The other book is Banewreaker.
If you hear "Jacqueline Carey" and think Kushiel's Dart, you may be mighty tempted to pick up this series based on that.
Don't.
There are no subby women with bottomless capacities for pain in this series. Heck, it isn't even D'angeline. Very little sex, in fact, and none of it kinky. Different universe completely.
This is rather nakedly The Lord of the Rings but done from the point of view of the Nazgul. At least, that's the concept I t...more
If you hear "Jacqueline Carey" and think Kushiel's Dart, you may be mighty tempted to pick up this series based on that.
Don't.
There are no subby women with bottomless capacities for pain in this series. Heck, it isn't even D'angeline. Very little sex, in fact, and none of it kinky. Different universe completely.
This is rather nakedly The Lord of the Rings but done from the point of view of the Nazgul. At least, that's the concept I t...more
(The above date is my most recent reading.)
This book is the companion to Banewreaker, which I've already reviewed; I'd really recommend reading that review first.
As for this one, well. . .the first time I read it, I screamed at it more than once. Just saying.
There are only three words to describe this book.
The first is, "grey." Like the first book, it has no absolutes of good and evil; morality and truth continue to be purely subjective here.
The second word is "excellent." If I hadn't already be...more
This book is the companion to Banewreaker, which I've already reviewed; I'd really recommend reading that review first.
As for this one, well. . .the first time I read it, I screamed at it more than once. Just saying.
There are only three words to describe this book.
The first is, "grey." Like the first book, it has no absolutes of good and evil; morality and truth continue to be purely subjective here.
The second word is "excellent." If I hadn't already be...more
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I loved her Kushiel series. And I knew, getting into these books, that they are essentially Lord of the Rings from the bad guys' point of view. I knew, going in, that this meant it probably wouldn't end well.
I think she did a good job, but the problem is with my personal taste. I cannot stand reading books where the characters do nothing but repeatedly fail at every single thing they do. And that seems to be what these books were about. I know some people must like that sort of thing, otherwise...more
I think she did a good job, but the problem is with my personal taste. I cannot stand reading books where the characters do nothing but repeatedly fail at every single thing they do. And that seems to be what these books were about. I know some people must like that sort of thing, otherwise...more
sequel to Banewreaker, the pair collected as The Sundering. there's a grandeur to it, the Godslayer forces doggedly trying to outrun both fate and time. and there's a poignancy to the characters, as magnificent in defeat as they are in ascendance. it's a Tolkeinian clash of forces with a world at stake, a larger battle between good and evil. but where it really becomes interesting is: who holds the high ground really on that moral plane? they all have honour, justification, the greater good in m...more
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If you liked the overly-angsty ridden and stilted formality of the prose in Banewreaker, then you will continue to eat up Godslayer, a direct continuation of the Middle Earthlike tale of Lord Satoris the Sunderer of the World and his three immortal human servants against the "good" allies of Haomane in the world of Urulat.
"Ways of the Marasoumie had been destroyed. Lord Satoris had done this in his wrath. The Dragon of Beshtanag was no more, slain by the Arrow of Fire; the lost weapon, found. Be...more
"Ways of the Marasoumie had been destroyed. Lord Satoris had done this in his wrath. The Dragon of Beshtanag was no more, slain by the Arrow of Fire; the lost weapon, found. Be...more
Godslayer finishes the Sundering epic fantasy by basically rebuilding the Battle of Helm's Deep (that's from Lord of the Rings if you don't speak dork), only smarter. I don't mean to get down on Tolkien - I do love those books - but he and buddy C.S. Lewis were pretty hung up on the whole good/evil, white hats/black hats binary thing, and Carey is more into how individual choices made by those as great as gods and those as small as birds effect outcomes. Personally I find this the more interesti...more
I'll start this review by saying this book made me Hate Gandalf. If that isn't a recommendation I don't know what is.
The sequel to Banewrecker, this book continues the tale of an epic fantasy-esque land, at once different yet familiar, in which the forces of Santoris, the Sunderer, the Dark God among the Seven who led to the present world, and his 'minions' are in constant fight against the forces of 'Light'. The thing is of course, we are getting the story from the 'minions' point of view.
The S...more
The sequel to Banewrecker, this book continues the tale of an epic fantasy-esque land, at once different yet familiar, in which the forces of Santoris, the Sunderer, the Dark God among the Seven who led to the present world, and his 'minions' are in constant fight against the forces of 'Light'. The thing is of course, we are getting the story from the 'minions' point of view.
The S...more
I hesitate to give the book three stars, but at the same time I feel four stars is really what it deserves. Unlike BanewreakerGodslayer moves away from some of the LotR motifs but not all. Yes the wizard returns and is garbed all in white and the bearer and his guide face all forms of trails and pain. These trails and the pain of the bearer I think is where Carey diverges from Tolkien. Godslayer left me with a sense that Carey was upset with how Frodo was treated in LotR and she drew a sharp com...more
Godslayer is not quite the second book of The Sundering series. It is the second half of a single story, and it is impossible to read one instalment without reading the other.
While Banewreaker depicted a world tethering on the verge of war, closing off with the inevitable fall into conflict, Godslayer offers us an agonising resolution to the epic struggle of thought versus passion: the tension mounts with every new development. Even when we think that the rope is so taut that it must surely bre...more
While Banewreaker depicted a world tethering on the verge of war, closing off with the inevitable fall into conflict, Godslayer offers us an agonising resolution to the epic struggle of thought versus passion: the tension mounts with every new development. Even when we think that the rope is so taut that it must surely bre...more
Oct 05, 2011
Darlene
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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Recommends it for:
Jacqueline Carey fans
Recommended to Darlene by:
Jacqueline Carey
Um, yeah. Not as exciting as Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel's series. The story felt predictable to me. Yet, I couldn't stop reading. Was up until three in the morning finishing the book. I think what kept me reading was HOW the ending would happen and HOW it would be justified. Meanwhile, the talent of a poet brings to life a whole world never seen except in Ms. Carey's imagination.
I tried to decide WHY I cared about any of the characters. The good guys; not exactly all that, and the bad have reaso...more
I tried to decide WHY I cared about any of the characters. The good guys; not exactly all that, and the bad have reaso...more
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My dear sister-in-law once said of Romeo and Juliet that it would have been much shorter and happier if the people in it would simply talk to each other. And that is very true of Godslayer. I would like to say that this book is a study of lack of communication and how prejudices can hurt, and that the author meant to say this or that about all kinds of social subjects and that it's all one big allegory for the Civil Rights Movement or something. But I don't think it is. It's just a story, and it...more
This one is better than part one. That is until the endgame starts. Then it feels like carey has a list with names of persons who have to die and works through them one by one without feeling or eye to the story.
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But maybe that is just my opinion. Maybe I was just disappointed because I expected so much...more
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But maybe that is just my opinion. Maybe I was just disappointed because I expected so much...more
I had heard such good things about this two book series, good things from authors I enjoy. It was supposed to be incredibly novel (pun intended) and look at high fantasy from the viewpoint of the bad guys. Many said it was pretty much Lord of the Rings through Sauron's eyes.
The description of the book is certainly true. It is a sort of novel approach, but I just don't think it's written that well. It is very high fantasy, and I just felt like that made it go a little slow. A lot of nothing happe...more
The description of the book is certainly true. It is a sort of novel approach, but I just don't think it's written that well. It is very high fantasy, and I just felt like that made it go a little slow. A lot of nothing happe...more
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Like the rating states ... I liked it. It wasn't earth-shattering or so full of philosophical awesomeness that my worldview changed. It's a decent story with excellently written characters. I liked the viewpoint it was written from and the critique it had on good vs. evil, but it was just ok. I could definitely tell it was written by a woman because it focused a significant more time on relationship and talking about getting to the important times. The number of times we were reminded who a char...more
This two-book series is so in-depth and full of so much detail, I do not recommend reading the first and the second book very far apart. Read them one after the other, no other books in between. In my case, it has been a few years since I read the first book, Banewreaker, around the time when I first discovered Jacqueline Carey's novels and began to devour them. So I started Godslayer feeling slightly confused for a chapter or two, because Jacqueline Carey's world building is sooooooo intricate,...more
Aug 18, 2012
Cassandra
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
People who love Lord of the Rings or epic fantasy
Shelves:
fantasy
My review of Banewreaker, the first part of the series, is here: http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
If you are thinking about reading Godslayer but haven't read Banewreaker yet, don't. The two are parts of one overall story; neither stands alone - so much so that I wondered as I was reading them whether Carey had written them as one book and her publisher had decided to split them into two.
I think Godslayer is the better book - it's much easier to get absorbed in - but it has the advantage...more
If you are thinking about reading Godslayer but haven't read Banewreaker yet, don't. The two are parts of one overall story; neither stands alone - so much so that I wondered as I was reading them whether Carey had written them as one book and her publisher had decided to split them into two.
I think Godslayer is the better book - it's much easier to get absorbed in - but it has the advantage...more
Lord of The Rings, but with Character Development and Moral Ambiguity! What's not to love?
If you're interested in knowing more that surface level about what makes evil so evil, why heroes persist in their quests, and what's really in it for the wizard, this series should be your thing. It's high fantasy with believable people and realistic, human-scale (and dragon-scale) motivations and conflicts. (If you like Jacqueline Carey for the eroticism and romance, look elsewhere, that's not what's goi...more
If you're interested in knowing more that surface level about what makes evil so evil, why heroes persist in their quests, and what's really in it for the wizard, this series should be your thing. It's high fantasy with believable people and realistic, human-scale (and dragon-scale) motivations and conflicts. (If you like Jacqueline Carey for the eroticism and romance, look elsewhere, that's not what's goi...more
Def not my favorite by Carey, whom I generally love. This comprises both books in one, and while Banewreaker couldn't live up to my expectations, Godslayer was worse. I couldn't feel for most of the characters, they were 2 dimensional. It's supposed to be an epic fantasy from the villains point of view, only I couldn't find it interesting enough to feel anything for the villains or want to be sympathetic to their plight. The one lord of the shadows was very interesting, and his halfings as well,...more
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What an amazing conclusion to a great series. I really don't know why I'm even writing a review, if you liked the first, you'll have to continue with this whether I say so or not. But definitely do so.
In some of the interviews I read of Jacqueline Carey on The Sundering series, she always mentions that it is a tragedy, so I don't feel too bad letting you know that she is correct. No matter how much I wanted it to be different, it was so. But, that only makes the amazingly well-crafted...more
What an amazing conclusion to a great series. I really don't know why I'm even writing a review, if you liked the first, you'll have to continue with this whether I say so or not. But definitely do so.
In some of the interviews I read of Jacqueline Carey on The Sundering series, she always mentions that it is a tragedy, so I don't feel too bad letting you know that she is correct. No matter how much I wanted it to be different, it was so. But, that only makes the amazingly well-crafted...more
Feb 29, 2008
Nakki
rated it
5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
everyone
Recommended to Nakki by:
adriel montoya
Shelves:
fantasy
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To start, I loved it. Both books. I admit, though, at the beginning, I knew there was no way it could end happy, and it made me a little reluctant. I like happy endings. Despite that, I couldn't stop thinking and talking about these books. It's the other side of the story, tragic and doomed, and also so relatable- not in an emo way, but I could see in the fight between the opposing sides an echo of the religious argument we are surrounded by today. I highly recommend it.
This was such a fascinating read. I was intensely interested in finding out how closely Carey would follow the familiar plot lines of epic journey fantasies, to see what she would do with it in this inverted telling. I had the feeling of being backstage, watching strings being pulled and hearing confessions, seeing the heroes through other characters' eyes. Carey does a commendable job with this dark vision of a Tolkein-esque epic.
You know what's coming, and yet it's still a punch to the gut. Some things actually caught me by surprise, in some ways, while making absolute sense in the end. The similarities to Tolkien are still very strong, but it brings something new to it as well: the noble enemy, the moral ambiguity. Deaths of characters who would be seen as completely evil from the other side of the argument turn out to be noble sacrifices. A lady gets a chance to kill her side's greatest enemy, and hesitates. Love grow...more
I did not like the ending of this book. It reminds me not so much of LotR but more like Scarface. Only three people survived that film at the end. If not for the Kushniel series I would not have anything positive to say about Ms. Carey writing. She is very talented and usually balances her stories in the end. It made no sense how this was a worthy ending for all the characters.
A deliberately derivative mythology that has remarkable, unique elements of its own; a shadow tale of the Tolkien quest that gives us the hearts and minds of every side, most significantly that of the Enemy. This is a heavy, portentous read that nonetheless carries you along, aching all the while.
This chapter broke my heart.
This chapter broke my heart.
Jul 17, 2009
Janet
rated it
4 of 5 stars
Recommends it for:
Fans of high fantasy and The Lord of the Rings
Carey brings her Sundering duology to a hard but satisfying finish. The characters on both sides of the conflict are all driven by their deepest values, but Carey focuses her attention on the valor, loyalty, and dignity of the so-called "forces of darkness" and on the pivotal choices of those who do not seem powerful enough to shape great events.
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Jacqueline Carey (born 1964 in Highland Park, Illinois) is an author and novelist, primarily of fantasy fiction.
She attended Lake Forest College, receiving B.A.'s in psychology and English literature. During college, she spent 6 months working in a bookstore as part of a wo...more
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Jacqueline Carey (born 1964 in Highland Park, Illinois) is an author and novelist, primarily of fantasy fiction.
She attended Lake Forest College, receiving B.A.'s in psychology and English literature. During college, she spent 6 months working in a bookstore as part of a wo...more

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