Young Men and Fire
Young Men and Fire
On August 5, 1949, a crew of fifteen of the United States Forest Service's elite airborne firefighters, The Smoke Jumpers, stepped into the sky above a remote forest fire in the Montana wilderness. Two hours after their jump, all but three of these men were dead or mortally burned from a "blowup" -- an explosive, 2,000-degree firestorm 300 feet deep and 200 feet tall --...more
301 pages
Published
1994
by Penguin
(first published 1992)
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Superficially, Young Men and Fire is the story of fifteen elite Smokejumpers who died in Mann Gulch, Montana, in 1949. The Smokejumpers were all young men, the best of the best in their chosen profession: fighting forest fires. Yet, in Mann Gulch, they'd been overtaken by fire and died clawing at the steep grassy slopes.
Really, though, this is a book about dying, and the important lessons about life that death provides. For it is death that gives life its value; it is death, or rather, the know...more
Really, though, this is a book about dying, and the important lessons about life that death provides. For it is death that gives life its value; it is death, or rather, the know...more
Jan 20, 2010
Tyler
rated it
3 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Recommends it for:
Anyone
Recommended to Tyler by:
National Book Critics Circle Award
Shelves:
non-fiction,
unusual
Young Men and Fire recounts the Mann Gulch Fire, a forest fire fought in the 1940's by one of the first teams of Smokejumpers to actually parachute to a fire. The basic story has been laid out in the synopsis and its details have by now been told in various reviews. What potential readers may not have learned, though, is what sets this book apart. Why read it when the plot is already out of the bag?
For one thing, the fire itself forms such an antagonistic element of the story. The author, Norma...more
For one thing, the fire itself forms such an antagonistic element of the story. The author, Norma...more
Norman Maclean, perhaps best known as the author of A River Runs Through It, began researching the famous Mann Gulch (in Montana) forest fire of 1949 late in his life, and worked on the project until the time of his death at age 88 in 1990. Thirteen young men, twelve of them Smokejumpers, died when this fire "blew up" and they couldn't outrun it. The tragedy evidently haunted Maclean, himself a woodsman, and he returned again and again to the site, trying to understand what had happened, and wh...more
This book has been sitting in my bookshelf for quite a while. I picked it up a couple of years ago and I wasn't drawn into it. I picked it up last week and I was sucked right in. Thus, this book occupies (for me, anyway) that interesting category of book that is highly dependent both on personal mood as well as life experience. I suspect that I have changed a lot in the years since I last attempted to read this book. In the interim, many things have happened to me and I hope that I have matured...more
Thirteen young smokejumpers were killed during the tragic Mann Gulch fire in Montana in 1949. Maclean researched every detail of the story, compiling multiple accounts to give a broad picture.
The book drags in a few parts, but overall it’s a fascinating look at the horrible event. It’s as much a story of Maclean’s research as it is a story about the men. He didn’t begin the book until he was in his 70s, which makes the deaths he writes about especially poignant. When he wrote it he’d already liv...more
The book drags in a few parts, but overall it’s a fascinating look at the horrible event. It’s as much a story of Maclean’s research as it is a story about the men. He didn’t begin the book until he was in his 70s, which makes the deaths he writes about especially poignant. When he wrote it he’d already liv...more
Maclean can really write. Midway through, I knew that he was not just giving a moment to moment account of his search for information on the Mann Gulch fire, but rather guiding the reader through the information in the way that would infect his readers with his own obsession with this event. He knew what he was doing. There's so much pathos begging for context in this story but Maclean was very restrained with drawing conclusions or applying symbolism to soothe the reader. When he breaks down an...more
I actually read this book about 15 years ago, but it's stayed with me powerfully enough to earn its 5 stars retroactively. The other night, looking for something else, I came across what I wrote about it at the time, so this is a retroactive review as well, but it still feels accurate to the experience I remember.
Young Men and Fire is Norman Maclean's posthumous book about the 1949 Mann Gulch forest fire in Montana. Sixteen young flame-jumpers were dropped on what was supposed to be a routine jo...more
Young Men and Fire is Norman Maclean's posthumous book about the 1949 Mann Gulch forest fire in Montana. Sixteen young flame-jumpers were dropped on what was supposed to be a routine jo...more
While this kind of book is not normally my cup of tea, Young Men and Fire went down all right--a spoon full of sugar, etc., etc. The book (nonfiction) is about sixteen smokejumpers who were killed in the Mann Gulch Fire in 1949. Maclean pieces the story together bit by bit, teasing at its threads from all different angles to try to figure out exactly what went wrong. Maclean is a strong presence throughout the book--in fact, I would say that the book is even more about Maclean's obsession with t...more
What led me to search for this story was the song Cold Missouri Waters by James Keelaghan. The lyrics follow:
My name is Dodge, but then you know that
It's written on the chart there at the foot end of the bed
They think I'm blind, I can't read it
I've read it every word, and every word it says is death
So, Confession - is that the reason that you came
Get it off my chest before I check out of the game
Since you mention it, well there's thirteen things I'll name
Thirteen crosses high above the cold Miss...more
My name is Dodge, but then you know that
It's written on the chart there at the foot end of the bed
They think I'm blind, I can't read it
I've read it every word, and every word it says is death
So, Confession - is that the reason that you came
Get it off my chest before I check out of the game
Since you mention it, well there's thirteen things I'll name
Thirteen crosses high above the cold Miss...more
In Mann Gulch, on August 5, 1949, 13 men lost their lives in an otherwise unremarkable forest fire. That twelve of these young men were smokejumpers trained to fight fires and in top physical condition was the first mystery. That three smokejumpers somehow survived the fire was the second. That the most senior of these, the foreman, survived by using an unprecedented technique was the third. The official reviews concluded that the foreman had acted appropriately, but they smacked of cover-up, ev...more
Young Men and Fire was a good read, albeit one that was hard for me at times due to the immense amount of details regarding the Mann Gulch fire that took place in 1949 and killed 13 Smokejumpers. As Maclean wrote, "When it comes to racing with death, all men are not created equal." The race was an estimated 1,400 yards and lasted about 16 minutes. Three quarters of a mile doesn't sound that far to run until you factor in the steep terrain, hot weather, and a raging forest fire rapidly gaining on...more
Nov 02, 2011
Milo King
rated it
2 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
history-current-events,
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A powerful, emotional and compelling story, this book probably deserves better than the two stars I am giving it. Frankly, I was not so engaged with it as I had hoped to be - and found it quite a slog to get to the end. The writing tends toward the poetical in many places - which I appreciate - while sticking to what facts Maclean was able to unearth in his 20-plus years of research on this forest fire tragedy that killed so many young men in a very few minutes.
The problem for me as a reader wa...more
The problem for me as a reader wa...more
Having grown up about 30 miles from Mann Gulch, in Helena, I think I'm probably more interested in the subject matter than most people. However, I thought this book was still really interesting even without having been to the Missouri River at Mann Gulch. During the school year, we would take field trips out to the Gates of the Mountains and take the tour boat, which turns around pretty much at Mann Gulch. When Maclean describes the change in mountain cliffs to prairie, I can see it so vividly....more
It is a great thing that this book has been given to the world, considering how much of his life and energy Norman Maclean devoted to it. A shame, also, that he wasn't able to finish it himself. I wonder how much additional polish and editing he would have done to make it a spectacular read.
In "Young Men and Fire" Maclean takes the reader to the disastrous Mann Gulch blowup and examines it through testimony of the survivors, all of the photographs and documents that exist, personal interviews a...more
In "Young Men and Fire" Maclean takes the reader to the disastrous Mann Gulch blowup and examines it through testimony of the survivors, all of the photographs and documents that exist, personal interviews a...more
Oct 14, 2007
Megan Pursell
rated it
5 of 5 stars
·
review of another edition
Recommends it for:
fire fighters, western historians
I LOVE THIS BOOK! I read it almost annually.
My husband was a fire fighter for the Forest Service, but not a smokejumper, which is why we originally purchased the book. However, I fell in love with this tale that covers a tragedy in almost classic epic style, combined with the mystery story of the science of how this event happened.
My husband was a fire fighter for the Forest Service, but not a smokejumper, which is why we originally purchased the book. However, I fell in love with this tale that covers a tragedy in almost classic epic style, combined with the mystery story of the science of how this event happened.
The narrator has a slightly nasally voice so it took me a bit to get used to. However the narrative is engrossing and I was soon lost in it. As others have pointed out the attention to detail is quite good. The fact that I began to apply my own skills to what was being revealed should speak to that. Not only does it cover the original event, it reconstructs and reveal the subsequent events after it - including the handling of it by the Forest Service and the Government. Maclean also discusses th...more
Norman MacLean inadvertently gave me one of my formative views on writing. I was in high school when "A River Runs Through It" came out. I don't remember much about it, fly-fishing not being my passion, but I remember a crusty newspaper editor saying to a young writer, "Good. Now half."
Good. Now half.
I carried that piece of wisdom around from that day on. So it seems interestingly circular that Young Men and Fire is really two books, and if halved, either could stand alone.
The first half is the...more
Good. Now half.
I carried that piece of wisdom around from that day on. So it seems interestingly circular that Young Men and Fire is really two books, and if halved, either could stand alone.
The first half is the...more
"My name is Dodge, but you know that. It's written there on the footend of the bed. " - That's the opening lines of the song "Cold Missouri Waters" which I first heard performed by Cry Cry Cry (made up of Dar Williams, Richard Shindell, and Lucy Kaplansky). Shindell's haunting take on this song backed with the heart-wrenching harmonies by Williams and Kaplansky made me research the story behind the song.
The Mann Gulch fire was a tragedy, no doubt about it. It haunted the survivors, particularl...more
This book, particularly the first part, is one of the most moving books I have ever read. This is so despite, or perhaps even because of, its apparent objectivity and distance from the subject. The account and analysis of the Montana fire is a monument to the young smokejumpers who died and to those who miraculously survived. It is at the same time a fascinating, clear account of the first forest fire to be addressed by a new kind of firefighter, of which these incredibly brave men were the firs...more
I really enjoyed this one. It is about the tragic death of 13 smoke jumpers in the Mann Gulch forest fire. It is part narrative and part investigation of what really happened during the final minutes as the 30 foot wall of flames swept up the mountain side at 7.5 miles per hour overtaking the men. Norman Maclean who wrote "A River Runs Through It" does a great job telling the story. The sense of foreboding and tragedy powerfully drive the story forward.
It gets a little dry at times in the secon...more
It gets a little dry at times in the secon...more
This book was recommended by an former manager from Montana, and it did not disappoint. The Mann Gulch fire started the day after I was born. My biggest takeaway: at the time, they did not have good theoretical models of fire and how it spread. I am interested in wildfires and firefighting, and I did learn some things about fire, but most of all I was impressed by Norman MacLean's writing, particularly in the second half of the book, when he describes how he did the research to verify the statem...more
One of the best, and certainly one of the most readable, studies done of a multiple fatality fire. Norman McLean is a wonderful writer who, unfortunately was not prolific and left us only a few examples of his beautiful prose. It is interesting that his style of writing would lend itself so well to an essentially scientific study of this famous, infamous event. He died while writing it and there is a clear break in the book where his co-author completed the text. Even so, it remains one of my fa...more
I had a hard time deciding if I liked this (3 stars) or I really liked it (4 stars). I wish I could give it it a 3.5. I was slightly familiar with the story because I did some research after falling in love with the song Cold Missouri Waters by Cry, Cry, Cry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgQNeG...). This book certainly increased my knowledge about the fire itself, as well as the many factors at play in why the fire blew up and what the Forest Service was able to learn from it. I'm glad that I...more
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May 09, 2013
Eddy Allen
rated it
4 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
arts-and-historical
On August 5, 1949, a crew of fifteen of the United States Forest Service's elite airborne firefighters, The Smoke Jumpers, stepped into the sky above a remote forest fire in the Montana wilderness. Two hours after their jump, all but three of these men were dead or mortally burned from a "blowup" -- an explosive, 2,000-degree firestorm 300 feet deep and 200 feet tall -- a deadly explosion of flame and wind rarely encountered and little understood at the time. Only seconds ahead of the approachin...more
As a firefighter for twenty-six years I have few books by non-firefighters who understands fire and the men and women who fight it for a living. Norman Maclean does understand and brings real insights into the story. To tell the firefighters story you also had to tell the story of the land and fuel on that land that made that day so dangerous. Maclean sets the stage and when the fire occurs you truly understand and can almost feel their fear as they realize what is happening. This is a classic o...more
This book is more than the account of the infamous 1949 Mann Gulch fire that took the lives of 13 U.S. Forest Service smokejumpers and left 3 survivors, all young men, to provide clues but no answers as to how and why; Norman Maclean has transformed the account into an accounting. Maclean had been a firefighter in the same forests where the Mann Gulch disaster happened and spent years of his life tracking down people and documents involved in the Forest Service investigation and revisiting the s...more
On Aug. 5, 1949, 16 Forest Service smoke jumpers landed at a fire in remote Mann Gulch, Mont. Within an hour, 13 were dead or irrevocably burned, caught in a "blowup"--a rare explosion of wind and flame.
That's part of the official review. It describes the subject of the book - those early days of fire-fighting, those young men, and the biggest tragedy in the history of the Forest Service. But this book sprawls for years in both directions; it's fascinating; it tells you enough about fire, how it...more
That's part of the official review. It describes the subject of the book - those early days of fire-fighting, those young men, and the biggest tragedy in the history of the Forest Service. But this book sprawls for years in both directions; it's fascinating; it tells you enough about fire, how it...more
May 28, 2011
itpdx
rated it
5 of 5 stars
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review of another edition
Shelves:
lwv-book-group,
non-fiction
"In memory of the 13 heroic men who lost their lives in service of the their country fighting the Mann Gulch Forest Fire...on August 5, 1949". Memorial plaque. Norman Maclean visited the site of the Mann Gulch Fire while the ashes were still smoldering and went back time after time during his life. Twenty five years after the fire, he started to try to make sense of the deaths--combing the Forest Service archives, interviewing survivors, clambering over the hillside marked by crosses with a tape...more
Unforgettable true forest fire story. Maclean wrote "A River Runs Through It" - both books are prose as near poetry as any I've read.
an exerpt
"...The world was getting faster, smaller, and louder, so much faster that for the first time there are random differences among the survivors about how far apart things were. Dodge says it wasn’t until one thousand to fifteen hundred feet after the crew had changed directions that he gave the order for the heavy tools to be dropped. Sallee says it was on...more
an exerpt
"...The world was getting faster, smaller, and louder, so much faster that for the first time there are random differences among the survivors about how far apart things were. Dodge says it wasn’t until one thousand to fifteen hundred feet after the crew had changed directions that he gave the order for the heavy tools to be dropped. Sallee says it was on...more
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Born in Clarinda, Iowa, on December 23, 1902, Maclean was the son of Clara Davidson (1873-1952) and the Rev. John Maclean (1862-1941), a Scottish Presbyterian minister, who managed much of the education of the young Norman and his brother Paul (1906-1938) until 1913. The fam...more
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Born in Clarinda, Iowa, on December 23, 1902, Maclean was the son of Clara Davidson (1873-1952) and the Rev. John Maclean (1862-1941), a Scottish Presbyterian minister, who managed much of the education of the young Norman and his brother Paul (1906-1938) until 1913. The fam...more
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