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Iron Council (New Crobuzon #3)

3.67 of 5 stars 3.67  ·  rating details  ·  8,558 ratings  ·  577 reviews
Following Perdido Street Station and The Scar, acclaimed author China Miéville returns with his hugely anticipated Del Rey hardcover debut. With a fresh and fantastical band of characters, he carries us back to the decadent squalor of New Crobuzon—this time, decades later.

It is a time of wars and revolutions, conflict and intrigue. New Crobuzon is being ripped apart from w
Paperback, 614 pages
Published 2005 by Pan Books (first published January 1st 2004)
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Overtly political, teasingly intricate, and deeply intertextual, China Miéville's Iron Council is everything I expect to love in great speculative fiction, and nearly everything I know I love in Miéville's work.

Yet, since its publication, I have only read it once, and I still find myself ranking it third of Miéville's Bas-Lag books. I've been baffled by my restraint with Iron Council. My admiration of Miéville's other books is boundless, bordering on madness, and I haven't understood how a book
Iron Council is China Miéville's most overtly political fiction work, but don't pigeonhole it.

Between the revolutionary fervor, fantasy, trains, and Western-like parts runs a common theme of love and the painful, desperate, doomed human longing.

I loved this book. It was not the insta-love like it was with "The Scar" but a long, careful, slow-to-build-up affair that by the end of the story fully blossomed. This book is fascinating, passionate, brutal at times, thought-provoking and deliberately
December 2008

Gods and Jabber, I don't know why I love this one the most. It's not necessarily better than the other Bas-Lag Books (don't you dare call them a trilogy, don't you dare. Old China says he'll always come back to this; there's more to come), and it's nowhere near the worst. There's just something about this that feels so radically different, so alien, so apart from the others. Perdido Street Station was new and fresh and amazing, yeah, but it felt familiar enough--while still being st
Mona Temchin

I gave this four stars, but I also gave Mieville's "The Scar" four stars.

But they aren't equal. (This highlights the difficulty with the Goodreads rating system).

"The Scar" probably deserved a 4.5 (nearly perfect), where this rates more like a 3.5.

This is the third book in the New Crobuzon/Bas Lag series.

The first two were "Perdido Street Station" and "The Scar".

"The Iron Council" takes place in the same universe but many years later, in the nineteenth century (where the earlier two books were i
We live in a culture that desires fragmented stories; stories that are told quickly and compellingly, so we can move on to the next tale. It is why we love visual forms so much. It is why YA fiction is increasingly popular with older crowds. It is why graphic novels are on the rise as a literary form. But where are the novellas? Where are books like One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, The Old Man and the Sea, Heart of Darkness, The Awakening, A Clockwork Orange?

I have been looking, waiting,
Ben Babcock
Recall in my review of The Scar how I was whining about my opinion of China Miéville and his novels remaining relatively constant? How I wanted to read something different, something I could say didn't rank equally with the other three novels by him that I have read?

This is the story of why I should have been more careful with my wishing.

I knew something was wrong—perhaps I should say off—almost from the beginning of this book. The opening was grandiose in Miéville's usual style (which, if you'v
So, here we are in Bas Lag again. According to interviews, Mieville sounds like he has every intention of returning to the world of Bas Lag in the future, so I won't refer to this as "the last Bas Lag novel." But, as of 2009, it's the most recent.

I found the experience of reading Iron Council markedly different from the first two books set in this world. For one, in this book the story isn't as localised. We have met the city of New Crobuzon in Perdido Street Station and the pirate collective of
Enough imagination for eighty favorite of Mieville's anti-trilogy for some reason...seems like you walked into a Bosch painting for most of the book.The most dismissed of Mieville’s books maybe because the first hundred pages are a little confusing and the structure strains a little bit more than usual. While all his books have flaws his enormous imagination and stunning vocabulary (rivaling Wolfe and McCarthy) pave over any hesitations I have. This one focuses on a tragic and costly c ...more
Camille Stein

Handlinger / Manecro - &

No escogemos lo que recordamos, piensa Judah, las historias que llevamos con nosotros.

Eran jardineros de quitina. Tenían rebaños formados por millones de insectos, arácnidos y artrópodos, cuya evolución iban dirigiendo en la acelerada sucesión de las generaciones hasta que contaban con cantidades colosales de arañas del tamaño de alfileres, ciempiés de un pie de largo e incontables especies de avispas reptantes. Empleando extraña
I love the first two Bas-Lag books but it took me ages to get around to this third volume due to the relatively high number of less than enthusiastic reviews on Goodreads and elsewhere. Yes, I can be swayed by reviews if the consensus opinion leans towards the negative. At the end of the day though I could not resist picking this book up as it is the last Bas-Lag volume for the foreseeable future (Miéville may come back to it but he seems to have no plan to do so at the moment). Another thing in ...more
A profoundly beautiful novel, perhaps the best speculative fiction that I've read, but likewise certainly enriched by reference to its close companion text, The Scar, which parallels it in important ways, as well as to Perdido Street Station, which introduces its setting.

As in The Scar, the narrative here involves a group of outcasts who travel on a more or less traditional quest to find something in particular. Both books involve a renegade, mobile city that interacts weirdly with a bizarre bre
I wanted very much to like Iron Council, considering how much I was drawn into the worlds of Perdido Street Station and The Scar, but despite my best efforts, I couldn't do it. Without question, it's my least favorite of Mieville's three Bas-Lag books, and I am conceding defeat at page 287. Judging from many of the positive (though qualified) reviews of other GR readers, the story is difficult but rewarding, but I think if I don't care what happens by the mid-way point, then it's not going to ha ...more
Mar 14, 2011 Harris rated it 3 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: people who like Bas Lag
Shelves: fantasy
After reading this, the last of Mieville's trio of Bas Lag novels, I have to say I was a bit disappointed. Iron Council is definitely my least favorite of the three, despite (or perhaps because of) being the most overtly political. Perhaps because of the focus on revolution, I felt the characters of this novel were much less interesting then the previous two. Unlike Isaac or Bellis, I never really connected with or identified with Cutter, Ori, Ann Hari or any other person or felt drawn into thei ...more
‘El Consejo de Hierro’ es una novela ambientada en el fantástico mundo de Bas-lag, donde también transcurrían esas obras maestras que son ‘La estación de la Calle Perdido’ y ‘La cicatriz’. No cabe duda de que China Miéville es un escritor único, del que a duras penas puede ser comparado con ningún otro. Su visión de la fantasía, de naturaleza New Weird, oscura y pesadillesca, se aleja de todo lo conocido hasta el momento.

En ‘El Consejo de Hierro’, de nuevo volvemos a Nueva Crobuzon, esa ciudad m
Wow, what a rich novel! China Mieville does with fantasy what I love about radical science fiction: sets a revolution in an imagined world to create an engaging, complex, deep story and character and speak to the real world, the present. I highly recommend the Iron Council to folks who like feminist/leftist science fiction that want to read a fantasy novel that doesn't celebrate the aristocracy. Iron Council is a novel about class struggle and the people in it, and it happens to be fantasy.

I'm d
[after second reading]
Yeah, I'm sticking with the two stars. Is it about preserving history? Is it about the inaccuracy of monuments? Is it about the sources of inspiration being stronger for what they inspire than for their truth? I'm not sure, and I don't care.

As other reviewers have said, the reason Iron Council is less satisfying that Perdido Street Station or The Scar is because it's mostly endless description of conflicts and fights and there's very little character development. Ultimately
Sep 15, 2007 Tessa rated it 2 of 5 stars  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: pretentious marxists
Shelves: fictive
I absolutely raced through Mieville's previous efforts, but this one was a slog. There were too many battles for my taste, and the characters had no depth whatsoever. Instead of trying to create depth, Mieville just repeats the same information over and over. Cutter loves Judah. Oh he loves him so much. Judah is unable to love, or is just priest-like. Why should I care? I never managed to care through the whole almost-600 pages. He also commits the literary crime of describing other fantasy race ...more
This book was fantastic. I picked it up with some hesitation because of reviews I'd read, which said that Iron Council was "the weakest" of the series, that the plot and setting were a far cry from the complex, violently magical and Victorian-inspired backdrops of the previous two books. Other reviews simply said the book was too slow.

And to some extent it is all true. Iron Council takes the reader much farther from the brilliant magics, sciences, and mythologies depicted in Perdido Street Stati
The earthy Miéville, the more subdued of the Bas Lag universe... until the final climax when he sticks it to the critical world and goes all Perdido on our asses, ostentatiously. That's what we get for making fun of his words. He don't need no rules. The resistance must go on. Struggle golem.
Looking back from "Embassytown" and "The City and the City," I can see some of the same maturity that Mieville brought to these later works in "Iron Council." This is the strongest Bas-Lag book he has written in terms of structure and, especially, the close of the story. The conceit behind the eponymous Council is far-fetched--even in Mieville's crazy world--but Mieville pulls it off with his usual talent for language, description, and the evocation of something otherworldly and yet still ground ...more
Arun Divakar
There are quite a lot of wordings swirling inside my head now. Words like 'Power' , 'Revolution', 'Government' and so on. I am stuck with putting them down into coherent sentences. This was the outcome of the book for me : a muddled mind.

The landscape of New Crobuzon is not unfamiliar to me thanks to Perdido Street Station.I still count that as one of the best books ever. But where the first book was one that cut across genres, here the tone is overtly political. There is a tone of an impending
This would be a 3.5 stars review if it were possible. I've become a China Mieville fan late compared to some (Amanda) via Kraken and King Rat and others but I confess I found Perdido Street Station to be very hard reading ( a bit like Jeff Van der Meer's early work) and Iron Council although easier than Perdido.. was still slow for me. It's something to do with his writing style I am sure because the ideas in the book are phenomenal. Truly original and very imaginative. The themes are big too - ...more
What a let down! I thought I'd finally found my Miéville groove after reading 'The Scar'. I was so impressed with the world building, that I was hoping for more of the same in this one.

This had a slow start and it took me awhile to get my head back around all the different species in Bas-Lag. I have a good imagination, but I was really struggling to picture everyone. I didn't really start to get into it until about a hundred pages in.

I was enjoying the middle part of the book because I felt l
Dee Dee
I was sad. This story made me sad. And it thrilled me. I laughed, I cried, I went home happy.

This book seemed a lot less "weird" (Mieville says he writes "weird fiction," rather than science fiction or fantasy) than the others based in Bas Lag. I could just read about the Stiltspears' existence in the swamp, their culture, forever. I wish there were other really cool species with language and intelligence we could talk with here in reality but we'd probably have already killed them all off by no
Dear China,

It’s not you, it’s me.

I wanted to like Iron Council, and there were parts of it I really did like, but the old magic was just not there.

I remember first meeting you on the pages of Kraken, and your fantastic images, scenes and people made me want to spend more time with you.

Then we spent some time together stepping in between Besźel and Ul Qoma and I realized the depth and virtuosity was more than a flash in the pan, you were on to some heady stuff, THE NEW WEIRD. I was hooked.

Then I
Alexis Rado
I know a lot of people (even trufans of Mieville) really hate this book. If you understand where he's coming from, though, I think the book will make more sense. The biggest gripe is that the book is overtly political, focuses too much on revolution. Mieville is a Marxist! I've seen him speak in London at Communist Party events, and his PhD is on reworking the discourse of international law based on a Marxist theory of human rights. Seriously, old school Marxist all the way. A big part of that i ...more
Jesús Redondo Menéndez

Bien, éste volumen es la tercera entrega de la trilogía sobre Nueva Crobuzón de China Miéville, ambientada en el mundo de Bas-Lag, un mundo en el que tecnología con un toque SteamPunk y magia se hibridan, tiñendo una cosmología mestiza y bastarda al cincuenta por ciento entre la ciencia ficción y la fantasía...

Quien ya haya leído los dos primeros volúmenes (La Estación de la Calle Perdido, y La Cicatriz), se sentirá mucho más cómodo que quien lo aborde como primera lectura, pero no es imprescind

Jeanette (jema)
Much as in The Scar, this book is about a souverign state on the move. There is was the Armada, here it is the perpetual train, the Iron Council. After a workers strike (which in turn was started by the whores striking) the management comes riding to take back the train but fails. The train is on the run across all of Bas-Lag for decades.
We follow the story of both the Iron Council, a small group of people from New Crobuzon that is following it and Ori back in New Crobuzon that is tired of the t
This was definitely my least favourite of the New Crobuzon three. I don't want to say it wasn't worth reading, but if I had known ahead of time what it was like I probably would have shoved it to the bottom of my reading pile.

I just couldn't get really interested in the story or invested in any of the characters. It skipped around a lot, both in time and in point of view. I don't know if it was intended to add interest or what, but it just made the story confusing and frustrating. I think I wou
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A British "fantastic fiction" writer. He is fond of describing his work as "weird fiction" (after early 20th century pulp and horror writers such as H. P. Lovecraft), and belongs to a loose group of writers sometimes called New Weird who consciously attempt to move fantasy away from commercial, genre clichés of Tolkien epigons. He is also active in left-wing politics as a member of the Socialist W ...more
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New Crobuzon (3 books)
  • Perdido Street Station (Bas-Lag, #1)
  • The Scar (Bas-Lag, #2)
Perdido Street Station (Bas-Lag, #1) The City & the City The Scar (Bas-Lag, #2) Embassytown Kraken

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