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Twilight of the Idols. Nietzsche's own unabashed appraisal of the last work intended to serve as a short introduction to the whole of his philosophy, and the most synoptic of all his books, bristles with a register of vocabulary derived from physiology, pathology, symptomatalogy and medicine. This new translation is supplemented by an introduction and extensive notes, whic

Published 2008 by آگه (first published 1888)
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Well, I really wanted to philosophize with a hammer, but I said to myself, 'Who the heck will show me how?' As quickly as the word 'how' fell from my lips into the limitless void, I heard a motorized scooter being fired up and approaching at an alarming speed. (Alarming for a motorized scooter, anyway.) I turned around in my fluorescent yellow booth at Subway, where I was busy 'enjoying' a Veggie Delite [sic], only to see a deranged-looking man with enough mustache for the entire cast of a 1970s...more
Can you imagine how much fun Nietzsche must have been at parties?

Guest No. 1: Wow, these deviled eggs are delicious.
Freddy: The devil is a creation of the ultimate mishap upon humankind, and this egg is a desecration of the fruit of the first instinct.

Guest No. 2: Great music, huh?
Fred: I hate it.

And so on.

Obviously, Nietzsche had a titanic mind, and while his immoralisim is in direct conflict with my personal worldview, many of his ideas remain profound a century and a half later. That he d...more
This book frustrated me beyond comprehension. I hated him so vehemently for many different reasons:

He whines incessantly about things like the downfall of German intellectualism, yet offers no solution.

He "critiques" a great many other philosopher , writer, or artist, but offers little to no actual insight to the "idol;" he simply alludes to their "stupidity," much like a child with a chip on his shoulder.

His style of writing is disjointed and hard to follow (this could be my translation too tho...more
May 11, 2011 Geoff marked it as to-read  ·  review of another edition
The only reason I'm adding Nietzsche's "Twilight of the Idols" is because I had an extremely vivid dream last night that I was in the waiting room of a ruined, wrecked office building (with shattered windows, overturned furniture, chair and couch cushions splayed and torn and ripped, stuffing pulled out and strewn everywhere, bookshelves overturned, desks knifed and broken) and this waiting room was at the endpoint of a very long series of labyrinthine halls, and the receptionist was behind some...more
This starts off with some almost funny (something even vaguely resembling humor is not something you expect to see in a Nietzsche book) observations from Nietzsche and goes from there into his critiques of Socrates. He later goes into critiques and observations about other philosophers, as well as critiquing Germans and Germany. This book has plenty of what I normally like and dislike about Nietzsche. Dislike, sometimes reading his work is about as exciting as watching paint dry and he comes off...more
فاروق الفرشيشي
-------------- My Review (I read an arabic version : غسق الأوثان and an English one to ensure it's a good translation)

Now I'm discovering Nieztsche, the real one, not like in "Die fröhliche Wissenschaft", he's giving much of him in this book, so much opinions here, so much contradictions, and confusing concepts, anarchy is out there in every word, in every text, he doesn't seem to give a f*** to how a book should be structured, he just writes when he wants, and about what he pleases.
I doubt thi...more
ArEzO.... Es
غروب بت‌ها شامل بخش‌های مختلفی است:
- نکته‌پردازی‌ها و خدنگ‌اندازی‌ها
در این بخش، ۴۴ گزین‌گویه وجود دارد که هیچ‌کدام از ۳-۴ خط بیشتر نیستند.
"فرمولِ من برایِ شادکامی: یک آری، یک نه، یک خطِّ راست، یک هدف ..." [صفحه‌ی ۳۲]
- مسئله‌ی سقراط
همانطور که از اسم بخش برمی‌آید، به در هم کوبیدنِ دشمن ِ دیرین‌اَش، سقراط، می‌پردازد!
- "عقل" در فلسفه
در آغاز این فصل، متذکر می‌شود که آن چیزی که باعث می‌شود حس‌های ما اشتباه کنند، برداشت ِ غلط ِ‌ عقل است، نه خود ِ حس.
بعد هم به این مساله می‌پردازد که تقسیم‌بندی ِ جهان به...more
Madalin Boboc
This book's appeal is that it is made as a collection of essays, so it's easier too read,thus recommended to someone who wants to get into Nietzsche.It's excellent for someone who wants to familiarize itself whit Nietzsche's ideas,yet they aren't to well developed so one could still want to read previous Nietzsche books to get more in the meat of Nietzsche's thoughts.Freddy had allot of fun in writing this and this means he can be very fun to read for the right person.So he managed to retain hi...more
Hysterically irritated and contemptuous, this book of aphoristic observations and short philosophical essays is by turns incisive, obvious, witty, morose and self-congratulatory. Nietzsche here is like a hungover Voltaire the morning after a brawl at a gentleman's club. He's relentlessly dour, and his arguments seem at first like a bracing philosophical slap, then like a hilarious rant at a Bohemian open-mike night and finally like a tiresome uncle's after-dinner wheedling. The number of stars i...more
I am most likely going to burn in reader's hell for this rating. I never really liked Nietzsche, his style always seems to influence the weak with rebellion, especially teenagers. His anger with Christianity is so big that I believe this guy is responsible for a third of today's atheists. Especially if you're in high school, this book is going to influence you a lot.

He focuses on how people trust and value much more their non-sensorial traits and how the real sensors are neglected and considered...more
Voilà un essai de définition de la décadence, sous toute ses formes, à travers des phrases très courtes, piques ironiques voire sarcastiques, ou des discours sur la morale et le réel. On y trouve Nietzsche sous deux visages, antichrétien et pessimiste mais aussi comme le philosophe qui sait remettre en cause des idées fortes telle que la distinction entre le monde-vérité (le réel) et le monde des apparences. Car selon lui, il n'y a pas de monde des apparences, puisque les apparences sont une réa...more
Фридрих Ницше как никто другой из великих философов дерзко рушит множество идеалов, идолов и стандартов когда либо созданные человеком, общественными институтами и отдельными знаменитыми людьми, которые так или иначе вошли в историю и оставили пагубные и несвойственные истинной природе человека догматы.

Книга порой сложна в понимании и иногда очень сложно понять мысль автора. Но так или иначе она оправдывает своё название и если множество личных догматов читателя не будут разрушены после прочтени...more
Kinan Arous
The 2 stars are for not understanding it well although I have a philosophical background.I will read it again later.
By the way, many people complain about the translation, which leads me to think that Nietzsche's style of writing is like that.
Ghalia S.
*المرأة المتكاملة تقترف الأدب ، كما تقترف خطيئة غير مميتة ، علـى سبيل التجربة .. لكي ترى هل لاحظناها ؟ ولكي نلاحظها !

* ثمـة أشياء أود نهائيا ألا أعرفها قط.. فالحكمة ترسم حدودا حتى للمعرفة
Ştefan Bolea
I intend to write an essay about three of the books written in 1888 by Nietzsche: the most explosive, the "crazy" ones. What I have found out, re-reading them, is that Nietzsche wasn't crazy at all when he conceived "The Twilight of Idols" for instance (as some psychiatrists claim). His truths are more powerful, deeper and more energetic. There is an incredible tension but also a massive - almost unbelieveable - intuition. In his hidden, occult way (pre-psychanalytic), Nietzsche is almost always...more
sahar salman
"عندما تكون للمرأة فضائل ذكورية يجب تجنبها، وعندما لا تكون لها فضائل ذكورية فهي التي تهرب"
يبدأ هكذا نيتشه كتابه بالحكم والإشراقات التي يستخلصها من قوة كلماته وتساؤلاته وفلسفته وهو لا يدري أهو وقت فراغ أم حرب جديدة ؟. فيضرب المطرقة على الحياة والإنسان والأخلاق، يضرب تلك الأصنام التي اعتقد الناس بها وسيروا حياتهم من أجل الإيمان والمحافظة على عيشهم الذين يرون أنه علمي وعالي بينما هو الجهل ذاته. هكذا يتكلم نيتشه اليوم ودوماً بكل ضروب المعرفة وبكل الكلمات والعبارات الصريحة التي تخترق ذات القارئ بفلس...more
Abdurrahman Hafez
نجمة واحدة لماذا ؟

أولاً بالنسبة للترجمة لا تستحق أي نجمة .. الترجمة أسوأ مما تتخيل
ثم أخطاء مطبعية تزيد علي سوء الترجمة سوءً
أما عن باقي النجوم الغير ممنوحة فهي بمناسبة الوقاحة الشديدة
النجمة الممنوحة هي فقط للصراحة الشديدة

من أكثر العبارات التي أعجبتني

"الإشباع يقي حتي من الزكام - هل سبق لامرأة مكسوة جيداً أن أصابها برد ؟ - أو حتي مكسوة بالكاد"
Lo que quieren decir algunos hombres en un libro, a Nietzsche le gusta decirlo en unas cuantas palabras, en aforismos. Es lo que dice el y me parece muy propio e inteligente. Ser el maestro de los aforismos no debe ser fácil y este hombre maneja dicha arte con una maestría inigualable.

Este libro está compuesto de una serie de secciones referentes al pensamiento general de Nietzsche acerca de algunos filósofos que han sido idolatrados en el paso de la historia. Hace declaraciones sobre la manera...more
Marts  (Thinker)
Twilight of the Idols, or, How to Philosophize with a Hammer

As Nietzsche explains, the Twilight of the Idols refers to (and I quote), "the old truth that has been believed in hitherto, in plain english, Twilight of the Idols means that the old truth is on its last legs."

Nietzsche expounds on issues such as the reason for philosophy, issues of morality, and philosophers who have fictionalized the world creating elements of doubt, and removing the 'real world' concept, he also explicitly criticize...more
Reham Mohssen

كتاب المطرقة فيه يتطرق نيتشه لكل الأصنام ويطرقها بمطرقته النقدية، بداية من فلسفة المثل والمثالية إلى القرن التاسع عشر

يحتاج الكتاب معرفة ولو متواضعة عن الشخصيات موضع النقد والا يستحسن ارجائه .

فى الآخر نيتشه كعادته ضد التحجر وضد الحصار العقلى وضد المدارس الفكرية والمصانع البشرية والتدجين .
Ahmad Bahador
A must Read book. Don't ask too many question and Don't Have any doubt. This book is a Masterpiece, a brilliant example of Nietzsche's philosophy, and A Real pain for a forgetful reader. Thus read it carefully. After all Nietzsche wrote:
"Wie man mit dem Hammer philosophiert"
"How to Philosophize with a Hammer"
This book is pretty great, for the most part one of the finest works in philosophy before the 20th century.

My interest in Nietzsche and my appreciation of him mostly has to do with his writing on aesthetics, which is remarkably simple, insightful, and clear, like what I'd hoped Wittgenstein's writings on art would be. In the relevant sections contained in this book, he retracts some of his ideas from his earlier writings on aesthetics, mostly for good reason, and sets about providing some dange...more
Mohammed Al-Garawi
The amount negativity and cynicism in this book is beyond frustrating.

I get how some people discord disagree with others over opinions and ideas, but this book is different. Nietzsche devotes this book to one purpose and one purpose only; to insult and demean the philosophies and ideas of many other philosophers and doctrines he doesn't approve of. He criticizes Socrates, Plato and plenty of other antiquity philosophers, then he moves on to criticize Christianity and religions, then he starts te...more
مسیحی و آنارشیست. – هنگامی که آنارشیست در مقام سخنگوی لایه‌های رو به تباهیِ جامعه سخت کلافه می‌شود و در طلبِ «حق» و «عدالت» و «حقوقِ برابر» می‌آید، این چیزی جز بی‌فرهنگی‌اش نیست که بر او زور می‌آورد و نمی‌گذارد بفهمد به‌راستی درد-اش چی‌ست و فقر-اش از کجاست: از [سرچشمه‌یِ] زندگی... در وجود-اش یک رانه‌یِ علت‌جوییِ نیرومند هست: آخر، این‌که او حالِ خوشی ندارد، گناه‌اش می‌باید به‌گردنِ کسی باشد... آن «کلافگیِ سخت» هم برای‌اش خوب است. هر ناکسِ تو-سری-خورده‌ای از غُرزدن خوش‌اش می‌آید زیرا اندکی کیفِ قد...more
Lindu Pindu
Upon reading the reviews here, it surprises me how many people misunderstand what Nietzsche is saying; he is definitely not a nihilist. Rather, he affirms life.

An example would be where he talks of freedom. You gain freedom by affirming life, in spite of the pain and suffering that comes with life (strikes me as Buddhist). Freedom is also gained by mastery of the instinct for ‘happiness.’ Much of what he says applies today- our ethics that support our weaknesses, our educational system that pro...more
Niče je otišao u banju u Italiji da izleči umorno telo, podvrgne se okrepljujućim tretmanima sa psiholozima i malo zaboravi na umne napore. Vratio se jači nego ikad, ozdravljen i spreman da rasturi sve ono dekadentno u istoriji filozofije i civilizacije do tada. Prvi na spisku je bio Sokrat, koji je bio groteskno ružan spolja pa je samim tim morao biti takav i iznutra, u skladu sa naukom fiziognomije tog doba. Razgovori koje je vodio sa psiholozima naveli su ga da svede neke glorifikovane sentim...more
I intend to go back to this book in the future because I wasn't ready for it when I first read it. I feel shamefully under-educated on many authors of pre-20th century philosophy, psychology, ethics and metaphysics, and this book is largely Nietzsche's commentary on those writers. I know of a few from the top level overviews of college textbooks, such as Kant, Plato, and Rousseau, but only a couple of those he mentions have I read.

Nietzsche's opinionated wit surrounds many poignant ideas on the...more
While I disagree with Nietzsche on several fundamental aspects, this should be of no concern when judging the book.
Indeed, I believe that Götzendämmerung is raising valid and thought-provoking criticism more often than not, but it is also written in Nietzsche's typical all-insulting, all-belittling style that - while generally entertaining - at times gets hard to read for me.
The biggest problem with the book is that by reading it you won't learn much, you have to work your way through it, you h...more
This was my first time reading Nietzsche. I grew interested in his ideas because they are so often contrasted with those of Dostoyevsky. I chose to read “Twilight of the Idols” first because it was recommended as the most succinct summary of Nietzsche’s works.

First of all, Nietzsche is an excellent writer, able to communicate in one paragraph—or even one sentence—what would take most people a page or more. Take his famous maxim from the beginning of the book: “That which does not kill me makes...more
no, non mi riferisco all'immortale distico "chi si fotte una rossa / campa cient'anni", che il filosofo volle iscritta sulla sua lapide in quel di weimar, bens� ad un brandello del crepuscolo degli idoli. mirate! "Anti-Darwin: per quanto riguarda la famosa "lotta per la vita", per ora essa mi sembra pi� asserita che dimostrata. Avviene, ma come eccezione; l'aspetto complessivo della vita non � lo stato di bisogno, lo stato di fame, bens� la ricchezza, l'opulenza, persino l'assurda dissipazione -...more
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Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (1844–1900) was a German philosopher of the late 19th century who challenged the foundations of Christianity and traditional morality. He was interested in the enhancement of individual and cultural health, and believed in life, creativity, power, and the realities of the world we live in, rather than those situated in a world beyond. Central to his philosophy is the id...more
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