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Dal momento in cui Jaromil viene concepito, egli è il poeta. Così vuole sua madre, e fantastica che Jaromil sia nato non per fecondazione del marito ma di un Apollo di alabastro. Con lo stesso spirito, questa madre accompagnerà invisibilmente il figlio nel letto dei suoi amori, come lo assisterà sul letto di morte: morte di un poeta adolescente che voleva darsi tutto alla...more
Paperback, Fabula #14, 349 pages
Published January 1st 1987 by Adelphi (first published 1973)
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Mashael Alamri
قرأتها منذ شهر تقريباً وعجزت عن كتابة رفيو مع أنها من أفضل الروايات التي مرت عليّ ,
,كأن كونديرا يكتب من أجل أن يصحح الأخطاء القديمة التي ارتكبها,قرأت سابقاً عنه أنه كان متحمساً للشيوعية ومنتمياً إليها,ولكن ماذا حصل ؟ لم يعد يقف في صف الجماعة,وأخذ يبتعد ويعلن عن خيبة أمله عن طريق الرواية.
جاروميل هذا الشاب الذي كان شاعراً,هاجم به كونديرا سذاجة واندفاع الشباب و الشعر الذي كان كونديرا نفسه يكتبه سابقاً, كان جاروميل متحمساً للثورة الشيوعية بيد أنها أصبحت قمعاً أكثر منه إنقاذ للتشيك , تساءل ذات مرة...more
Eszter
the first hundred pages or so made me really anxious because i just couldn't make myself like the book, and who am i, really, if i am actively disliking a book by kundera?? i was like, yeah, uh huh, i get what you're doing with the misogyny, but please, either knock it off or redeem your little monster of a protagonist, stat. and why are there still two hundred more pages left? what. a. chump. (though i was hoping he was just toying with me.)

then! before i knew what was happening, kundera zipped...more
Tej
‘Life is elsewhere’ is about what?

The question albeit futile, is pertinent from the exigency of not finding a well-knit congruent conglomeration of all the individually worthwhile ideas, pieces of brilliance that overtly or even covertly (raked my neural synaptic exchanges to discover) do not congeal into brilliant splendor which for me pulls this work down quite decidedly. I picked it up on whim based on the title and the descriptive excerpt although the greatest backing was the ‘Unbearable Lig...more
بثينة العيسى

أول، وأجمل ما قرأت لكونديرا.
Dina
أكثر من رائعة
هو كتاب بعد أن تغلق صفحته الأخيرة كل ما تستطيع أن تفعله أن تصفق من الإنتشاء
تقع في مرتبة كائن لا تحتمل خفته بالنسبة لي
من منا لا يعيش ياروميل بداخله
ياروميل هو النسخة السيئة التي تعيش بداخلنا كلنا, التي تريد أن تمتلك, التي يقتلها غرورها و كبريائها حرفياً
تستطيع أن تلمس روح ميلان كونديرا في كل صفحات الكتاب, فـهو ياروميل بشكل أو بآخر, فهو نفسه كان شاعر و كان مفتونا بكل ما كان ياروميل مفتوناً به
و كثيراً ما كان ينعته بالابله لأندفاعه وراء موجة العصر و الشباب لدرجة جعلته يوشي بحبيبته النمشاء...more
علی
کوندرا را به این دلیل بسیار دوست دارم که مرا در چهارچوب بسته ی یک روایت زندانی نمی کند. خواندن کونرا مثل این است که دوستی را پس از سال ها در یک کافه ملاقات کنید و در حالی که به قصه ی روزگار رفته ی او گوش می دهید، قهوه تان را می نوشید، به موسیقی که از بلندگوی کافه پخش می شود، گوش می کنید، گهگاه متوجه ی صحبت ها و خنده هایی از میزهای کناری می شوید، صدای عبور و مرور خیابان در پس پشت این همه جاری ست، دوره گردی چیزی می فروشد، عبور تراموای، و همه چیز، درست مثل خود زندگی، ...
I like Kundra because he doe...more
Hamza
فعلا ، الحياة هي في مكان أخر .

أن تنزع ثيابك الفضفاضة ، تنقلها فوق تفاصيل السرير العاري بك ، تقص له حكايات الكلمات الأولى ، إنها أخطائك الرتيبة والمكررة تعاود رجوها الأبدي .

إنك تقرأ لميلان كونديرا الأن ـ فإستقم في إنحنائتك .

أن تكون شاعرا ، لا يعني شيئا .
أن تكون شيوعيا ، قد يعني شيئا ما .

حينها كانت الحياة في مكان أخر ، لكنه لم يكتشف بعد ....more
Sarah Capps
“Because real life is elsewhere. The students are tearing up the cobblestones, overturning cars, building barricades; their irruption into the world is beautiful and noisy, illuminated by flames and greeted by explosions of tear-gas grenades. How much more painful was the lot of Rimbaud, who dreamed about the barricades of the Paris Commune and never got to it from Charleville. But in 1968 thousands of Rimbauds have their own barricades, behind which they stand and refuse any compromise with th...more
Corey Pung
Life is Elsewhere is Kundera’s brazen send-up of the world of poetry, particularly the world of poets who involve themselves with politics. It follows in the tradition of the nineteenth century novel where your given the main character’s life from birth onwards, although it does cut out portions, a la A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man. The main character is Jaromil, a man who has a painfully awkward childhood (complete with a few hysterically funny scenes) who grows up to believe he’s dest...more
د.حنان فاروق
أرهقني كونديرا حد الجنون..عموما ليست المرة الأولى التي يفعل بي هذا ...هو يدخل إليك وعليك من كل الأبواب دون استئذان..هو..يعرف جيدا كيف يلمس كل المناطق المرئية وغير المرئية فيك لكنه مع ذلك مرهق جدا جدا...وفي النهاية لا أستطيع أن أستفيض لأنه لا كلمات تصف هذا الجنون الذي قرأت..الجزء الأخير أصابني بالذهول ربما لأنه يجسد حالة يمر بها من هم مثلي..ومثله...حالة أحفظها عن ظهر قلب..كانت عيناي تتسعان وأنا أقرأ وكأنني أريد أن أقول له: كيف عرفت؟...لا أريد أن أنحرف عن انطباعاتي إلى مشاعري الشخصية غير أن هذا با...more
Kent Winward
Kundera's novels appeal to my aesthetics in ways that few authors can accomplish. Part 6 is worth the entire book, just to show what some structural changes can do to add depth and breadth to a story. Also, on how utterly incapable we are of truly knowing other people. It is refreshing to be told a story in a way that is unique and not formulaic.

The Rimbaud and Lermontov counterpoint to Jaromil resonates like great poetic images.

Jaromil is Kundera's lyrical soul incarnate, incorporating all of...more
Lauren
3.5

Life Is Elsewhere has been a three-, four- and five-star book. I couldn't, and still can't, make up my mind about it. At times I loved it, stopped at certain passages to marvel, to underline in order to remember later. Other times, I found myself rolling my eyes. By the end, I had to admit to myself that I was looking forward to finishing (the tell-tale signs: unconsciously skimming longer paragraphs; checking the page numbers to ascertain how many are left.) All in all, I’d say that, enjoyme...more
Tahani
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في الحياة من الأمور ما هي لشدّة سطحيتها عميقة، هذا التضاد الآسر هو ما يتقنه #ميلان_كونديرا جيداً. فأنت لن تتمكن من سبر فلسفة هذا الكونديرا ما لم ترتدي عينين قادرتين على ثقب سطحية النص الغضّة لتنزلقا داخل نفق العمق الفلسفي والذي لا نكاد نراه ولا نشعر به لشدة ما هو ملتصق بنا، عالق ببشريتنا الناتئة كبثور قبيحة تشوّه وجه الحياة الجميل.
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هنا يجيء (ياروميل) ثمرة الحب الطائش لأب تنصّل من أبوته ما إن قذفه في رحم الأم التي لم تفتأ تجلده بسياط حنانها وتحيطه بسياج اهتمامها فتقتل روحه في حين كانت تحسب بأنها...more
Abdelrahman Elkomy
كل صفحة اقرأها اقول انها اجمل صفحة فى الرواية ، وبعدين اكتشف ان الصفحة اللى بعدها اجمل بكتير .. الرواية دى سلسة غير منتهية من الابهار و الجمال
Dariana
Milan Kundera sets the destiny of a whole generation under the sign of failure.



The hero isn't a young boy from those places and times, but one that lives his painful growth in the age when the communism settled down in Czechoslovakia. He is a vulnerable adolescent, haunted by the fear of pathetic, but he has an extreme purity.



The poet Jaromil is attracted by the ideology of Marx, which promises him a revenge against a world that can not include him. Step by step, he becomes a prisoner of a sys...more
Chris Gager
Just began last night and am enjoying it. My only other contact with MK is from watching the movie "The Unbearable Lightness of Being". A great movie. This is the story of a poet with the overbearing mother from hell. Kind of reminds me of the Patty-Joey mess from "Freedom". Growing up in a Communist country that abhors(officially) "decadent" modernism. Could this be some kind of commentary about Havel? Probably not. He was a good guy as far as I know.
Day two... Jaromil continues to stumble towa...more
Kat Stromquist
I absolutely loved this book, but it's probably not for everyone.

It's ostensibly about a young poet and his overbearing mother during the period following the Czech communist revolution, but that's basically just an excuse for Kundera to talk about art, poetry, politics, and integrity for four hundred pages. You know, all that human stuff that's a little uncomfortable to talk/read about unless it's done really well. Kundera's ideas are challenging and provocative, but his irrepressible charm ma...more
Christopher Herz
This is one of my top 5 novels of all time. For me, it has everything I need in a book. That quality that makes you put it down and say, or scream DAMN! HOW DID HE DO THAT?

Milan Kundera seems to transcend writing - I can't explain it or figure out how he did it, but the experience of reading this book made me shake and tremble and wonder if there was magic being spilled onto the pages. The story, characters and writing were all so amazing I feel that no other writer can come close to what he did...more
أحمد شاكر
رواية ممتعة من العم كونديرا. مدهشة لحد بعيد. يسخر كونديرا علي مدار الرواية من الشعراء المدللين، مستمدا ذلك، ولو بطريقة خفية، من سيرة حياة ريلكه الشاعر الألماني المعروف، والفرنسي الشهير رامبو، وكذالك بودلير.
كونديرا المتعمق، والفاهم جدا للعلاقة الثنائية بين الرجل والمرأة، بين الأم والابن، يفضح كل شيء، يعري الحقيقة حتي النخاع.
رواية لفضح السلطة، وزيف المثقفين، وهشاشة الحب، ومتطلبات الجسد..

كونديرا..
كونديرا..
كونديرا..
Keith MacKenzie
This book shook me to my very bones. I was a young man of about 25 working at a coffee kiosk in Victoria, BC, and reading The Unbearable Lightness of Being, when one of my customers suggested Life is Elsewhere as a Kundera book I'd probably like. It got me right in the jugular, and probably was a perfect storm for me. If I had read it a few years earlier or a few years later it may not have had the resonance it did have, and I don't even plan to read it again, because I know a re-read would ruin...more
Кремена Михайлова
Все по-свойски започвам да се чувствам с/в книгите на Милан Кундера. Това е един много постепенен (възходящ) процес за мен. Въпреки че има известна повтаряемост в темите и стила, примерно по една негова книга на година ми се отразява много добре. Не зная това постепенно опознаване ли е причината да го харесвам все повече или действително избирам все по-добри книги (не че има еднозначен критерий за „добри“). А в началото дори не бях убедена, че искам и че ще мога да продължа дълго с опитите. И вс...more
Zoë (In The Next Room)
"With his poems the poet paints his self-portrait; but since no portrait is faithful, I can also say that with his poems he touches up his face."

Life Is Elsewhere by Milan Kundera is the surreal story of Jaromil, a poet growing up in socialist Czechoslovakia who is very close to his mother and idolizes his father who died in a concentration camp during WW2. The actual details of the story aren't what is important, but rather the general experiences that Kundera manages to portray. Life Is Else...more
Stven
The book-cover artwork on Goodreads is bright and cheery compared to the subdued, softer colors of the actual paperback cover, like a sunny day instead of a cloudy day. Likewise the text itself, kind of epic heroic if you read the reviews, more subtle if you read the book.

I've read a couple of other books by Milan Kundera, and this one fulfills some expectations that The Unbearable Lightness of Being and The Book of Laughter and Forgetting created: It's a self-reflective novel where the narrator...more
Lucie Novak
One of his less known books. Interesting alos by his recent problem of being accused of being a police informant in his youth. It is complicated. People who never lied under a totalitarian regime do not understand the complexity.
But the poet in this book betrays his friends, too, under pressure. Well written look in the past. I read the book as a samizdat- typed on shewets of paper, passed between friends, in danger of getting into great trouble if found. You can read it in the comfort of knowin...more
Nicole
Another favorite of all the Kundera books. A bit of an Oedipus story. Again, I'm not sure that I fall in love with his style of writing--with Kundera it is all about digging around in the psychological world and how it drives us though life. Constant mirrors, acting, reacting, tempting fate, pushing one's self to the absolute emotional extreme. The stuff of real life, the real interiors of people, but yet these lives always seem more erotically rash than the reality that most of us live in. The...more
Tuomas
Reliable Kundera. It's not his best book by any means, but any guy having gone through puberty will find something familiar in it. As is typical, Kundera also manages to open up some interesting political issues from Czech Republic's peculiar Soviet history.
Васил Койнарев
Великолепен роман. На много места видях себе си в Яромил. На много и не се видях. Имаше няколко убийствени цитата, назоваващи това, което винаги съм мислил, но никога обрисувал с думи така просто, ясно и красиво...
Ahmad
رمان از ساختار «رمان پرورشی» کلاسیک برخوردار است، و رساله ی تند و تلخی ست از «میلان کوندرا» در باره ی «سن تغزلی» و آثار و عواقب اخلاقی و سیاسی آن، داستان «یارومیل» پسر است و مادرش، پسر برای بزرگ شدن به حزب میپیوندد، و باعث دستگیری زنی میشود، که خود او را دوست میدارد، همکارانش «یارومیل» را تحقیر و طرد میکنند، او پس از تلاش ناموفق برای یک خودکشی نمایشی، سینه پهلو میکند و میمیرد، به نظر نویسنده: «زجر و آزاری که «یارومیل» میکشد، در حکم علامت تشخیص «بیماری تغزلی» بزرگتری ست، که جامعه چکسلواکی را از د...more
Ahmed Badr
تشعرك حقا بالكمااال .. هي من ذلك النوع من الروايات التي تلمح في تفاصيلها تفاصيلك ، وتشعر كما لو انك تستحى مشروبا تحبه بينما تصغي لكونديرا كاتب الرواية بانصات وكانه صديقك المقرب ، الخبير بما استقر في نفسك من مشاعر .. حقا تشعرك بالكمال ، وعلى المستوى الشخصي جعلتني ابصر كثير من الابواب المفتوحة لتفاصيل كثيرة لطالما غضضت عنها الطرف ، او اعتبرتها اقل مقاما من ان تشملها عظمة الكتابة !
April
This book came recommended to me by a colleague who insisted it was her favourite book. I'm not entirely sure why. I finished it, but only because I don't give up easily. Jaromil was quite possibly the most annoying, self-obsessed character I have ever read and I hated his with a passion I did not know I was capable of. To me, there were very few redeeming factors for this book. If any.
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Milan Kundera is a Czech and French writer of Czech origin who has lived in exile in France since 1975, where he became a naturalized citizen in 1981. He is best known as the author of The Unbearable Lightness of Being, The Book of Laughter and Forgetting, and The Joke.

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