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1421: The Year China Discovered America

3.57  ·  Rating Details  ·  9,642 Ratings  ·  823 Reviews
On March 8, 1421, the largest fleet the world had ever seen set sail from China to "proceed all the way to the ends of the earth to collect tribute from the barbarians beyond the seas." When the fleet returned home in October 1423, the emperor had fallen, leaving China in political and economic chaos. The great ships were left to rot at their moorings and the records of th ...more
Paperback, 672 pages
Published June 3rd 2008 by William Morrow Paperbacks (first published January 1st 2002)
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Jul 07, 2008 Andrew rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: cynics.
Recommended to Andrew by: My father!! and he liked it!
There are books that break new ground with bombshell research and there are books that spellbind us with the skill of their deception. This book is the latter.
Menzies takes a tremendous dump on the sensibilities of his readers, bombarding us with outrageous claims backed up with erroneous facts and arrogant speculation. A typical "fact" presented by Menzies is introduced with "By this point I was sure..." or "I realized that Zhou must have...." or even "From my days as a navigator, I knew that
Jason Koivu
Apr 07, 2014 Jason Koivu rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: history, non-fiction
Step back Europe-centric thinkers, Gavin Menzies says you whities didn't invent or discover shit!

Sure 1421 has plenty of hearsay and conjecture, but there are some entertaining theories put forth by Menzies, most of which can't be backed up with factual evidence at this time.

Obviously by reading the subtitle ...The Year China Discovered America you get the gist of what Menzies plans to assert, and that China-first-to-the-Americas hypothesis rankles "the West" something awful.

Learning that Chin
Jun 28, 2008 Christopher rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
From time to time, this reviewer comes across a publication so crackpot that I hardly know where to start in reviewing it here. I'm happy to see that Gavin Menzies' thesis in 1421: The Year China Discovered America, that a Chinese fleet launched in 1421, embarked on a tour around the world, discovering all major points before Europeans and leaving artifacts, has already been generally debunked by numerous sources. Perhaps the most substantial is Robert Finlay's review "How Not to (Re)Write World ...more
Hoo boy, what can I say. This book is heavily mired in controversy, and here's why. First, it makes an extraordinary claim: that Chinese explorers in their 1421-23 exploration didn't just map the Indian Ocean, as generally accepted, but also visited West Africa, both coasts of South America, the Caribbean, and even left colonies in New England and Greenland. Second, since much of this hasn't been sufficiently researched, it doesn't have the goods to back a lot of it up. All it has is an extremel ...more
Aug 23, 2007 Brian rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: A History Buff looking for an intriguing story
First off, I will start off by saying that I do NOT believe the Chinese beat the Europeans to the New World. I just think the evidence just is not compelling enough.

However that doesn't mean that they could NOT have. They certainly had the navy, the navigational skills (no worse than the Europeans), and the funding and ingenuity to accomplish it. And that is precisely what this book seeks to theorize. Of course there is not any historian that wants to make any money "theorizing" unless you are
Dec 06, 2014 Ursula rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
You might have that certain relative in your family who is affable enough, but has some really weird ideas that he loves to go on about. For the sake of this review, let's call him "Uncle Gavin." Uncle Gavin is harmless, and charms your friends, but he has one pet topic that you try to steer him away from. Before you know it, he's started asking your friends who they think discovered the world and after a short time, the friend's nods and smiles go from sincerely interested to polite to barely h ...more
Jul 26, 2010 Adam rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I have to say that I enjoyed reading this book, if only because it made me so angry at the gross inaccuracies and completely imaginary scenarios that the author made up. He claims to have information from anthropology, archaeology, geology, geography, history, etc, but what he really has exists only in his own mind. Read on, intrepid reader, and be amazed as the author sidesteps issues which threatens his ideas, or completely ignores them!

There is absolutely no traceable path for his research,
Jun 26, 2007 Michael rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: knee-jerk European Culture-haters
While this book presents itself as a revelation, it lacks citations or footnotes or much evidence for that matter to support such wild claims. I am not some jaded professor who believes in the current historical status quo, but to make such claims without good scholarly follow-through just begs for it to be debunked. Don't get me wrong, it was an entertaining read, which is why it got 2 stars and not one. But ultimately it is a futile book. The reason History is a social science is partly becaus ...more
Jul 10, 2014 Rob rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: anyone
Shelves: history
So much for all that crap they taught us in school about who discovered America! The Chinese did it first. All the European explorers were following charts that the Chinese had created in the early 1420s. Its fascinating to see how the revelation of what "really" happened developes for the author as he travels all over the world finding evidence in shipwrecks, artifacts and structures, plants and animals, languages and customs, and genetic markers in the indigenous peoples of Africa, the New Wor ...more
Jul 16, 2007 John rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Ok, so this was really interesting and he had a pretty good basic thesis. In fact, I could totally buy the most important 10% of his theory. Basically, no one disputes that the Chinese had this enormous fleet that set sail in 1421 and went across the Indian Ocean to the east coast of Africa. They were sent on a mission to trade with different countries and basically tell everyone how great China was.
The part of his theory I can buy is that the Chinese didn't stop at East Africa. They sailed aro
Apr 29, 2008 Jeff rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Abbie, and any history or China buffs.
Recommended to Jeff by: David, my stepfather.
Shelves: non-fiction
I am convinced. There is a raging debate over this book. The problem lies in the fact that the author is not a traditional historian--he's just a sailor who had a theory about what a few famous Chinese admirals did over a period of a couple of undocumented years. His theory is that they visited every continent on Earth except Europe, and he amasses a great deal of circumstantial evidence to support it. Not the least convincing, and what a good deal of the book focuses on, are the maps that many ...more
Bunga Mawar
I bought this book December 2006 on Indonesia Book Fair. The real prize was IDR75000, but I got it for only IDR49000 (still one of expensive books I've ever bought).

The book's content amazed me. It's a kind of re-writing world history that attempted to tell us that Magellan, Colombus and other Western discoverers were only followers of a path built by Chinese sailors under the command of Zheng-He (or Cheng-Ho, his popular name in Indonesia) on Emperor Zhu-Di era.

I like Menzies' style in writing.
Jul 01, 2008 Jini rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
I suppose I should feel bad that I gave up on this book, but I don't. It seemed like an interesting concept: China sent out huge ships to bring back treasure and knowledge, and just happened to find America 70 years before Christopher Columbus. Too bad there's so much evidence pointing against this being the case. I was about two chapters in when I really started to think about the logic of this and decided to do a little research. Turns out there are very few people that agree with this book. M ...more
Jason Pettus
(Reprinted from the Chicago Center for Literature and Photography []. I am the original author of this review, as well as the owner of CCLaP; it is not being reprinted here illegally.)

We Westerners are of course familiar with the historical period known as the Renaissance; taking place between the 1300s and 1600s, it's the period when Europeans finally crawled out of their Dark-Age hole, rediscovered such ancient Greek concepts as science and philosophy, and started doing such thi
Mar 13, 2008 Darrell rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: reviewed
In 1421: The Year China Discovered America, Gavin Menzies presents evidence that China not only discovered North and South America before Columbus was born, but also rounded the Cape of Good Hope, explored the North and South Poles, discovered Australia, and circumnavigated the world, visiting every continent except Europe.

The reason this information isn't widely known is because China became xenophobic after these great voyages and all records of the voyages were destroyed. However, enough evid
Tim Weakley
I really wanted to like this book. Sadly it became a long, non-stop series of suppositions along the lines of Chariots of the Gods. If I had to read one more mention of the Asian chickens in the New World I would have gone mad!Or another use of "the ONLY thing this could mean was that the Chinese had been there before anyone!" He has a lot to learn about inescapable conclusions and the evidence leading up to them. I gave it one star for the few things I actually found interesting, but given the ...more
Jun 19, 2012 Aaron rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Do you like pseudo-history from rank amateurs that draw wild conclusions from scant evidence while discounting, in almost all situations, the simplest explanation in favor of conspiracy theory level conclusions?

Then this is for you.

Just horrid.
I finally finished this book. For some reason, when I read non-fiction, I fall asleep, no matter how interesting the subject matter. So this is a long time coming.
Basically, the book is about how towards the end of China's expansive age, they sent out a gianormous fleet of huge ships to collect tribute from all the nations of the earth in a good Buddhist way. And as a bonus, they were to chart the world and update all their scientific data (or whatever the 15th century Chinese terminology for it
Daniel (Attack of the Books!) Burton
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First of all: I'm American. I don't particularly care about Columbus (genocidal) or Vikings being the "first" to "discover" the Americas, though. One or another claiming "discovery" of an already inhabited land is silly. I think it's absolutely plausible that Chinese fleets *could* have sailed to the Americas (I've seen no convincing evidence that they *did*). And I think amateurs can and often do make important scholarly contributions. These are not my problems with this book.

My problem with th
Nate Mundy
Nov 13, 2011 Nate Mundy rated it did not like it
Poorly researched. Highly speculative. A little condescending.

I found myself wondering throughout this book, how the hell this guy made the conclusions he did. After about 150 pages into it, I started noticing he wasn't making as many citations as he should be. A lot of his research comes from his own experience as a submarine captain, which he thinks puts him in a better position than other scholars before him.

He also makes excuses for the Chinese for basic mistakes, "the land was connected b
Aug 14, 2012 Rebecca rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: history
This is a completely enthralling book dedicated to a really ballsy thesis--that the treasure fleets of the Ming Dynasty charted most of the world, including North and South America as well as Siberia and Antarctica, in 1421. According to Menzies, European explorers including Columbus, Magellan, and Cook were working off of already existing charts that had been essentially stolen from the Chinese when they made their own voyages of exploration.

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence presented
Jeff Brown
May 21, 2014 Jeff Brown rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
It is hard to explain the awfulness of this book fact-wise(the fact that there is actually a web site dedicated to to doing this should tell you something). It consists of a long list of anecdotes along the lines of "when I was in the navy, I saw a pile of moss covered rocks on the beach in South America that had a shape vaguely similar to that of a collapsed Chinese temple - further proof of Chinese contact with America!"

I like a good wild theory as much as anyone, and typically enjoy reading
In this book, the author expounds upon his theory that around the year 1421, the Chinese launched a huge fleet of ships which circled the globe. He postulates that they visited nearly every continent, including North America (thus the title), charting maps, making scientific observations, trading with the natives, and depositing bits and pieces of their own culture wherever they went. It was an unprecedented feat of exploration, and one that surely would have gone down in history books, had outs ...more
Dec 16, 2009 jerome rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
There are some books that come to our attention through curious routes and then strike us as books "we were meant to read." I suppose in some ways, this is true for many books. Perhaps it is proof of the old saying, "Chance favors the prepared mind."
When my project was selected by the Asia Society to receive the Goldman Sachs Foundation Prize for Excellence in Education, I was invited to New York City to receive the prize and there, in passing, it was suggested that 1421 migh
A bit hard to figure where to place this book. Is it historical or is it historical interpretation or misinterpretation? Did Bao, Wang, Qing and Man split off from the Cape Verde Islands with Wen brining the Cherokee Rose plant to N. America, along with some male DNA? That China explored intentionally or unintentionally the West Coast of the continent has more physical eveidence of support. That the entire coastal areas of the continents, less Europe and Antarctica - but including Greenland - we ...more
Aug 04, 2011 Leah rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
To start, this author is not a historian and he is so biased in his views, that I really don't know what to believe. His methods and "evidence" are suspect and at times contradictory. He takes no time to offer a balanced perspective, instead he repeats over and over how the evidence clearly points towards Chinese fleets discovering America. I don't know what percentage of this book is true, but I do know that I do not trust this author at all.

The other irritating part of the book is how the aut
Oct 25, 2009 Annie rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: book-club
Didn't make it past the first 100 pages or so.

For such a big book there's a a whole lot predicated on conjecture posing as fact. While the premise is interesting, there's not much here beyond the idea that boats from China may have reached North and South America long before anyone else. After that, everything goes downhill so quick since flabby research and a whole lot of supposing are the only support presented. Usually a book like this can make for stimulating, thought-provoking reading, but
Apr 22, 2013 Georgene rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: no one
Shelves: history
650 pages of wishful thinking, skewed facts and pseudo-history.

I started this book very excited about the whole idea that indeed the Chinese did circumnavigate the world and chart almost every land mass they encountered decades and even centuries before the Europeans did. However, the "facts" as presented were often not quite facts that could be proven. At least one instance occurred in my home state and I KNOW that if this was proven to be true, I would have heard about it! But, alas, no. So,
Dec 13, 2015 Anne rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
There needs to be an option for "I stopped reading this."

I started this book literally years ago and couldn't get into it. Now I'm reading it and don't want to be into it. I actually agree with his premise. I was reading it to follow through his proof. I think it's highly likely that China was all over the globe before European travelers. That idea does not threaten me at all. I just don't like his side tangents that were handpicked by an adolescent boy. Whatever. Some books just don't click wi
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Former British submarine commander and amateur historian.

Menzies is most known for his book "1421: The Year China Discovered the World" which claims that the Chinese admiral Zheng He discovered America in 1421.

In his follow up book "1434" He claims that the European Renaissance was sparked by the Chinese.
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