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Nations and Nationalism, Second Edition (New Perspectives on the Past)

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"Brilliant, provocative . . . a great book."-New Statesman

"An important book . . . It is a new starting line from which all subsequent discussions of nationalism will have to begin."-New Society

"A better explanation than anyone has yet offered of why nationalism is such a prominent principle of political legitimacy today. This is a te

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Paperback, 208 pages
Published February 10th 2009 by Cornell University Press (first published January 1st 1983)
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Hadrian
An alternative theory of nationalism which doesn't wholly rely on economic conditions (like Hobsbawm and the other Marxists) or on literacy like Anderson or Geertz. Instead he sort of relies on both.

Gellner views modern nationalism as the product of the Industrial Revolution. How is this the case? An industrialized state needs a large basis of people who can read and write in the same language and have a basic degree of technical literacy. This, in turn, requires an educational system to produc
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Andrew
Gellner gets quite a bit right about the invention of nationalism-- especially how the practices of high culture become masked as ancient and inviolable folk tradition-- but he also gets quite a bit wrong. Perhaps he's right about the creation of a specific type of nationalism, one that is predicated on an industrial or post-industrial society and expressed most strongly in Central and Western Europe, and he's playing fast and loose with his words, but there seem to be plenty of nationalist move ...more
Петър Стойков
Купих си тази книга преди десетина години (издадена е в България през 1999г.). Макар че е тъничка и няма и двеста страници, почвах я няколко пъти и никога не стигах много навътре – оказа се, че не бях достатъчно умен, за да разбера какво пише в нея. Странно някак. Все пак, след известно (хехе) забавяне, успях да сдъвча невероятно концентрирания и сложен стил на писане на Ърнест Гелнър и да разбера как аджеба той вижда национализма и какво всъщност е това нация…

Не, нациите не започват с „родолюби
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Bertrand
Gellner's is one of those theories of nationalism that some call 'modernist,' meaning that he believes, like Benedict Anderson, that nations are less natural or ageless historical communities, than they are phenomenons emerging alongside or in reaction to modernity;
The reader having skimmed through Imagined Communities before approaching Gellner might have been left, as I was, disatisfied with Anderson's original but relatively narrow reading of modernity, and expect to find in Gellner's work a
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Matthias
Apr 08, 2015 Matthias rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
In an era that is doctrinally anti-(explicit-)doctrine, people like to emphasize that grand theories, even the putatively best ones, have blinders, and that the otherwise orthodox are at their most interesting when they ramble off the plantation to make ad hoc observations. Well, they do, and sometimes they are, but the opposite is at least equally true, even in the case of the worst grand theories. Gellner is at his best and most interesting when he operates within the confines of a not even ex ...more
Mehmet
It's a great book to come up with nationalism. I suppose this book has comprehensive methods to express why nations must exist for modernity process. This book gets an only holistic view about nations and nationalism on this subject. I suggest reading Gellner's theory instead of Anderson and other post-structuralist academics. Of course, they share a common core on some points, but the book differs from other books on historical analysis and the sociological imagination.


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Malavika
Sep 13, 2011 Malavika rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
My opinion of this book isn't related to its value as a seminal work in the field, but for the fact that such a well-known professor didn't have an editor who told him to stop using commas indiscriminately. My biggest pet peeve about many academic books is the total lack of writing skill and style from authors that takes away from the substance of their books, and this is a prime example. Now that I'm done with my rant, I can say that Gellner's work might seem outdated -- he ignores the Soviet U ...more
Kelly
One of about the four major texts on the "modernist" theory of nationalism. And two of the other three guys work off of him. Writing a paper on nationalism for one of my classes- God you find out what a small, idol-worshipping world academia is right quick in this field.
Jorge Andrade
Oct 07, 2010 Jorge Andrade rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
En forma breve pero precisa, Gellner muestra la evolución política de la sociedad que ha permitido la gestación del concepto de nación y nacionalidad.
Akshat Upadhyay
Feb 26, 2016 Akshat Upadhyay rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Solid concepts and a good introduction to the concept of nationalism.
Kacennnka
Tol k měmu předsevzetí, že chci číst knihy, co opravdu chci :D
Riley Haas
Didn't write a review.
Sarah
Feb 16, 2017 Sarah rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Read for Anthropolgy 391: Nation Building and Nationalism

This was a struggle to get through due to complex writing and a lot of references to historical events (I don't have a good handle on world history). But I came out the other side having learned something, and probably able to read the book again and get even more out of it.

Discussed are ideas like:
-The need for a shared experience through some form of mass media
-Folk culture as a precursor to nationalism
-The necessity of "forgetting" as a
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Bria
Mar 31, 2011 Bria rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This did much for reframing a lot of my thoughts and assumptions about education and intellectualism. I've drunk the kool-aid of industrialism, it would seem. According to Gellner, previous to industrialism, although there was not as much job specialization, the gap between each specialty was actually much larger. People would train their whole lives for one profession, and changing jobs was all but impossible. The customs and vocabulary of each specialty were much too involved and esoteric, und ...more
Kw Estes
Dec 18, 2010 Kw Estes rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
A fine work on the historical origins of nationalism. Gellner credits the coming of the industrial age, and its concomitant need for cultural homogeneity (as people are forced more and more into becoming interchangeable and mobile cogs in the social machinery), for the rise of nationalism(s)--which he defines simply as the idea that political and cultural boundaries ought to be in line.

Gellner takes no hard stance on whether or not the rise of nationalism is a positive development. Indeed one ca
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Firetouch
Jun 01, 2013 Firetouch rated it it was amazing
Gellner develops a systematic theory of nationalism. The book is self-contained and relatively easy to read. Accessible even to newcomers to the topic as it starts by introducing the nationalist principle and the state. From this point onward, Gellner explores the social causes and pre-conditions to nationalism and its deep connections to culture and education. This analysis and its consequences and implications are the core of the book. I consider the book (especially chapters one to seven) as ...more
morning Os
One of the "must-read"s in the field of identity studies in political science (the others include Benedict Anderson and Hobsbawm). Gellner's argument makes sense if you know that he had Eastern Europe in mind when he wrote this book. His definition of nationalism on page 1 is most frequently quoted. His argument is an excessive generalization (almost economic determinism) for diverse experiences of nation-building around the world, but Gellner most importantly established the core argument for t ...more
Simon
Mar 21, 2014 Simon rated it liked it
It is sometimes said that historiographers and historians are like a married couple that live together but have long since ceased to speak to each other. They live separate lives. This text reflects that divide. Like Hobsbawm before him, Gellner takes the traditional Eurocentric, pro-French Enlightenment view of the rise of nations, nation-states and nationalism. And like Hobsbawm's argument, it is flawed not just by its Eurocentrism, but by ignoring certain fundamental facts (e.g. the unique de ...more
Chris
Jun 27, 2008 Chris rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: extemp, debate
A fascinating (and seminal) construction of a theory of Nationalism and how it forms around some, but by no means all, cultures, and how it's part and parcel with the scaffolding of modern industrial societies. A good read, dense at times but light at others, and has very interesting ideas therein.
David Carrasquillo
Re-reading this from college to make an essay. This is really a classic that not enough people take seriously, at least in Puerto Rico. These arguments are essential to tackle the identity crisis of Puerto Rico and its politics all together.
Raully
While there is a virtue in describing the relationship between nationalism and modernity, I remain unconvinced that there is a necessary correlation.
Chris Mericle
If you never have read Ernest Gellner you must. Irrespective of the accuracy of his particular interpretation of nationalism the book is an intellectual roller-coaster ride.
Oğuzhan Batur
Nov 18, 2016 Oğuzhan Batur rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Milliyetçilik kuramları literatürünün baş yapıtlarından. Ufuk açıcı. Bilimsel
Elizabeth
Jan 13, 2009 Elizabeth rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: unfinished
An important book on the theory of nationalism, but it's a dry read and leaves many questions unanswered.
Zuzana Reveszova
Jan 10, 2015 Zuzana Reveszova rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sociology
Classic!
Mills College Library
320.54 G319n 2008
Tank Green
Aug 08, 2008 Tank Green rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: history, theory
a seminal text. i found his linking of education and industrialisation really interesting.
Cody Paris
Just finished this Seminal work presenting a theory of Nationalsim.
Ivana
May 29, 2015 Ivana rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: finals
I wish there were more conclusions like that in this book.
Painters and nationalism! Industrialism is the source of nationalism, not only books.
Adam
Adam rated it it was amazing
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Ernest Gellner was a prominent British-Czech philosopher, social anthropologist, and writer on nationalism.
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