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March 1995
(first published 1996)
by Hackett Publishing Company
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Paperback, 94 pages
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0872202208
(isbn13: 9780872202207)
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With a masterful sense of the place of rhetoric in both thought and practice and an ear attuned to the clarity, natural simplicity, and charm of Pla...more
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Division and Gathering: The Cycle Within the Life: 'Phaedrus' is the first work ever to provide an explanation to how we organise our ideas, speeches and use our knowledge in a general sense. It explains the basics of an arguing and convincing, within the context of Greek politics and society.
As I said, it's division and gathering that is evident in all of our arguments. We make our claims based upon the similarities and differences in things, and this is the core of argumentation.
In his ...more
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God this is good stuff. Plato sends me.
"There is also a madness which is the special gift of heaven and the source of the chiefest blessings among men. This divine madness is of four kinds - the gift of prophecy, religious ecstasy in which the soul is purified from sin, poetical inspiration, and lastly the madness of love.
I might tell of many other noble deeds which have sprung
from inspired madness. And therefore, let no one frighten
or flutter us by saying that temperate love...more
"There is also a madness which is the special gift of heaven and the source of the chiefest blessings among men. This divine madness is of four kinds - the gift of prophecy, religious ecstasy in which the soul is purified from sin, poetical inspiration, and lastly the madness of love.
I might tell of many other noble deeds which have sprung
from inspired madness. And therefore, let no one frighten
or flutter us by saying that temperate love...more
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Read in March, 2004
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This is a beautiful,deep, and hugely influential masterpiece by the greatest scribe the western world has known. According to how you choose to read it, it is a book about the mystical dimensions of love, the true nature of the soul, the art of rhetoric, the meaning of the written word, philosophy itself, or any number of other things. It includes some of the most resonant and timeless images for love, yearning, and the human soul found in western literature and has had a profound impact on the ...more
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Read in September, 2007
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philosophy majors only
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Read in October, 2008
Phaedrus deals with two general topics, namely erotic love and rhetoric. There are some beautiful pieces of imagery and myth in Phaedrus: The chariot with two winged horses, the grasshoppers, Thoth's gift of letters to the Egyptians.
There are two primary arguments in Phaedrus:
1. That proper erotic love is a kind of divine madness that bears the soul upward to contemplation of beauty itself.
2. That rhetoric, in order to be an art and not mere trickery, must concern itself with the goo...more
There are two primary arguments in Phaedrus:
1. That proper erotic love is a kind of divine madness that bears the soul upward to contemplation of beauty itself.
2. That rhetoric, in order to be an art and not mere trickery, must concern itself with the goo...more
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The only reason I like this dialogue is because if you read it carefully, you can see what dumb fucking bag of shit Plato is. Moreover, this text is one of the primary reasons why rhetoric is considered a baser art in Western Philosophy. Eat my ass, Plato. I'm glad Socrates was executed.
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“When they [the lovers:] come upon such a person [the beloved:], the memory of the god they followed is aroused; enraptured, they pattern their way and manner of life upon his—in so far as a man can partake of a god’s ways.”
"...in his lover he beholds himself and does not know it."
"...in his lover he beholds himself and does not know it."
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Pretty good, as far as erotic fiction goes, but kind of long-winded on some extraneous digressions tending not to be that exciting. All in all, if Bataille can't get the job done, this might be a good 'finishing move', but other than that, I'd stick with Anais Nin.
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Read in January, 2008
I highly recommend the Oxford World's Classics for reading older, difficult classic works of literature and philosophy. Excellent translations with great notes by the translator and biographies.
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One of the best pieces of gay fiction of all time, in it's own way, really, and one of the first.
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Read in September, 2007
If it's not obvious, I'm reading this for a class. There's no way I'd suffer through it otherwise.
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Read in January, 1998
My first plato book. It was a huge eye opener for me. Love, Beauty, and rhetoric.
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A must read for anyone who wants to understand any literature, ever.
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Read in February, 2003
a lesser-read Platonic dialogue about seducing young boys
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Read in November, 2006
I couldn't really get into this one for some reason.
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""Only a philosopher's mind grows wings, since its memory always keeps it as close as possible to those realities by being close to which the gods are divine.""
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