Orientalism

Orientalism

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A definitive work on relations between the West and the Arabs.
Paperback, 395 pages
Published October 12th 1979 by Vintage (first published 1978)
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Erica
The following is a true story:

Me, in a San Franscisco bar reading Orientalism.

The blonde girl next to me reading over my shoulder: "So what's Orientalism?"

I explain as best I can in a couple sentences.

Her: "There are so many isms in Asia - like Buddhism and Taoism. You know what book you should read? The Tao of Poo. It's sooo good. It's, like, the perfect way to teach Americans about Eastern Religion."

Horrified, I look back to my book and take a sip of beer.
DoctorM
Yes--- in many ways, Said's "Orientalism" is a classic. And he's right about some things: Western art and literature created a whole fantasy world about "the Orient" (which included the Balkans and Russia) over the last few centuries; Western scholarship about North Africa or the Middle East or India could be (and was) used by colonial powers. But as critics (especially Bernard Lewis and Robert Irwin)have pointed out, Said took a handful of serious ideas and created his own fantasy world of "Ori...more
عبدالرحمن ابوذكري
شتان بين الطلسمات التي ابتلينا بها على يد كمال ابوديب في الترجمة الأولى التي صدرت قبل أكثر من عقدين، وبين هذه الترجمة السلسة الرائقة البعيدة عن التقعُّر، والإغراب، وصك المصطلحات الشاذة. إذا أردت أن تقرأ كتاب إدوارد سعيد، وتفهمه فهماً حسناً، وتفيد منه، فعليك بقراءة ترجمة أستاذنا محمد عناني، واهرب من ترجمة كمال ابوديب هروبك من المجذوم!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adam
Orientalism is a masterpiece of comparative literature studies and deconstruction, published in 1978 it is arguably Said's most rigorous piece but undoubtedly his most influential. This is a examination of the academic discipline of Oriental Studies, which has a long history most of the European universities. Oriental Studies is a pastiche areas of study which include philology, linguistics, ethnography, and the interpretation of culture through the discovery, recovery, compilation, and translat...more
Lucy
I think the problem with reading Orientalism today is that much of what he says (that was so revolutionary at the time) is so accepted now (at least among most academics). He's a brilliant writer, although he did irritate me at times (he constantly vilified anyone trying to represent anything, claiming, rightfully, that it is only possible to have a misrepresentation of anything built on one's own experiences and culture, and I did truly want to remind him that was what he was doing with Orienta...more
Inam
Apr 25, 2010 Inam rated it 5 of 5 stars Recommends it for: Everyone
Recommended to Inam by: Professor
Still the most influential book in Cultural, Near Eastern, Arab, Islamic, and Post-Colonialist Studies.

Interesting how everyone giving it a bad/ambivalent review is someone that simply can't acknowledge history - 200-300 years of colonialism which was then only replaced by neo-imperialism in the form of wars, economic exploitation, and political interference through force. Is the world any different even today? Obviously not. You're not hating the West by acknowledging this truth, Edward Said a...more
Rob Salkowitz
Intellectual porn for self-hating westerners, shockingly became one of the most influential texts of the last 25 years. Said's pompous, self-important writing style papers over yawning gaps in scholarship and breathtaking dishonesty. Finally, some academics appear to be getting over their institutional infatuation with Said and the critical tide is starting to turn. None too soon.
علی
شرق شناسی که قرن هاست در انستیتوهای شرق شناسی دانشکده های کشورهای غربی رواج داشته، از دیدگاه ادوارد سعید، بیشتر در جهت آشنایی به تاریخ اجتماعی و سیاسی جوامع شرقی ست که به گمان سعید و با دلایلی که ارائه کرده بیشتر در جهت محکم کردن بندهای استعمار و استثمار به کار رفته است.
nanto
Ada sebuah ungkapan ," ex orient lux", dari timut terbitlah kemakmuran, yang saya dapat ketika SMA dari guru sejarah saya. Ungkapan itu merupakan sebuah cara dari sudut pandang sebuah masyarakat yang melihat di timurnya merupakan banyak tempat bagi lahir pencerahan. Konon itu ungkapan dari masyarakat eropa, entah kapan tepatnya ungkapan itu muncul saya tidak tahu. Yang jelas, ungkapan itu menunjukan tempat tempat seperti Mesir dengan piramida dan kemajuan geometrinya dan Yunani dengan filsafatny...more
Jeremy
Said borrows from the best of thinkers like Vico and Foucault, offering a rigorous survey and evisceration of a disgusting, racist, lazy intellectual tradition all while maintaining a profound, broadly stated humanist commitment. And he makes an airtight (and deeply troubling) case that academia has often been not only tacitly aligned with, but in many ways openly complicit with dehumanizing Imperialist ambitions. This is a brilliant statement about the inherently political, non-essentialist nat...more
Trevor
This is a fascinatingly interesting book. It is also a book that is virtually required reading if you are going to say anything at all about post-colonialism. Whether you agree or disagree with the central theme of the book is almost beside the point. This work is seminal and landmark – so it can be avoided only at your own cost.

I’ll get to the central idea of the book in a second, but first some advice for people thinking of reading it. I think, if I only wanted to get an idea of what the book...more
Shaherzad ahmadi
In his seminal book, Orientalism, Edward Said argues studies of the Middle East indicate structural power relations between the East and West. By implicating all academics of Middle Eastern studies (or, in Said’s time, Orientalists) in participating in this essentially racist discourse, Said caused quite a stir as he forced academics to confront ingrained prejudices. In the book, Said focuses his critique to Anglo-French scholarship, as Britain and France constituted the most powerful Western Eu...more
Mark Fitzpatrick
Read after I graduated from college. Said's project is a landmark work in the project of Orientalist studies. However, it only serves as an introduction to the study of post-colonial studies and how one can analyze the literature and cultural networks the West applied to the "Orient". This book opens up the reader to see Orientalist language as racist, imperialistic, ethnocentric, and the project of European culture and society manufacturing an Other in the Orient, particularly in the geographic...more
Brandy
(Response is cobbled together from several early entries into the blog ophelia-prissywig.xanga.com)

...The passage that caught my attention tonight was this:

"Knowledge means rising above immediacy, beyond self, into the foreign and distant. The object of such knowledge is inherently vulnerable to scrutiny; this object is a 'fact' which, if it develops, changes, or otherwise transforms itself in the way that civilizations frequently do, nevertheless is fundamentally, even ontologically stable. To...more
حسين العُمري
يناقش أدوارد سعيد في هذا الكتاب " الاستشراق " كظاهرة ثقافية يشوبها الكثير من التحامل الغربي على الشرق ،، يظهر ذلك في سطحية النظرة الغربية للثقافة العربية و الاسلامية بل و الشرقية بصفة عامة فيلعب المستشرق دور الراصد لما يعتقد أنه همجية في مقابل الحضارة و التقدم الغربي فينجرف وراء " نحن " مقابل " هم " أو المسيحية و الحضارة مقابل البدائية و هنا تظهر كثير من الدراسات الاستشراقية كدعامة للعنصرية و التعالي الأوربي على الشعوب الأخرى الأقل درجة في رأيهم ،، ناقش إدوارد سعيد بشكل كبير الاستشراق من عدة جوا...more
ضيف فهد
الاستشراق : المعرفة . السلطة . الانشاء ... إدوارد سعيد .. نقله إلى العربية: كمال أبو ديب .. الناشر : مؤسسة الأبحاث العربية ---

بالطبع لا يمكن الحديث أو امتداح مادة يقدمها مثل هذا المفكر الهائل .. إذ يكفينا فقط معرفة أن هذا الكتاب تم ترجمنه إلى : الفرنسية و الالمانية و الاسبانية و الايطالية و التركية و الفارسية و الماليزية و اليابانية .. وصدر منه إلى الآن في اللغة العربية ثمان طبعات على حد علمي .. الكتاب مهم جدا .. في المقدمة يقول كمال أبو ديب عن الكتاب : " كتاب ادوارد سعيد لا يدور على دقة تصور ال...more
Donald Linnemeyer
I only got through a few chapters of the book, but they were fabulous. Said's basic thesis is that empire in its more explicit forms (political/economic structures, military force, etc.) tends to spread through culture and is reinforced more implicitly in other cultural expressions, like literature or academic scholarship.

Said's work is specifically on how the British empire's perspective on the east, an expression of its political and military imperial dominance, thoroughly entrenched itself in...more
Ruhat alp
Said argues that Orientalism can be found in current Western depictions of "Arab" cultures. The depictions of "the Arab" as irrational, menacing, untrustworthy, anti-Western, dishonest, and--perhaps most importantly--prototypical, are ideas into which Orientalist scholarship has evolved. These notions are trusted as foundations for both ideologies and policies developed by the Occident. Said writes: "The hold these instruments have on the mind is increased by the institutions built around them....more
Andreea


Such a massive disappointment. I spent quite a lot of time discussing the way Central Europe is in a weird cultural limbo between Western Europe and Asia in the last two years or so and I was really looking forward to reading this. And indeed for the first 150 pages it was so interesting, I couldn’t put it down. But after the first 150 pages the Western bias because virtually nauseating and getting through the book became a chore. What Western bias you might ask? Well, the one that makes a huge...more
Clif
I'm sure you've heard people say, "I've got to get a handle on it" when they are telling you they need to better understand something.

Edward Said has written this comprehensive account of how people in the West have gotten a handle on the area of the world called the Orient - the Middle East, Asia Minor, the Far East and Southern Asia, much of it Islamic. It isn't about the Orient at all but about the representation of the Orient in the West. To say the result was a better understanding would be...more
Ally de Padua
Concerning Mirrors
Looking into the mirror at his altered face, Chamcha attempted to remind himself of himself. I am a real man, he told the mirror, with a real history and a planned-out future.
Salman Rushdie, The Satanic Verses
In this kind of discourse, based mainly upon the assumption that Islam is monolithic and unchanging and therefore marketable by “experts” for powerful domestic political interests, neither Muslims nor Arabs nor any other dehumanized lesser peoples recognize themselves as h...more
Eider
1. Conocer lo oriental
Que derecho tienen ustedes a adoptar esos aires de superioridad respecto a la gente que deciden llamar oriental?
Se podía hablar en Europa de una personalidad oriental, de un ambiente oriental, de un cuento oriental, de un despotismo oriental o de un modo de producción oriental y ser comprendido. (...) conocer así un objeto es dominarlo, tener autoridad sobre el y autoridad aqui significa, para "nosotros" negarle autonomia.

La logica de Balfour: Inglaterra conoce Egipto, Egi...more
Malcolm
This is justifiably a classic text in the analyses of imperial practice, outlining how a major field of intellectual practice developed in late 19th century Europe and since. His case is in many ways simple – the notion of the orient (by which he means the 'middle east') is a European invention. The challenging thing about orientalism, as Said defines it, is that it has established since the 19th century a set of ideas and an outlook that have become 'truths'. This is a huge, powerful, challengi...more
Omar BaRass
مع إني سئ في الكتابة حول كتاب ما إلا إني سأكتب على أي حال...
قسم ادوارد سعيد كتابه 560 صفحة لثلاثة فصول رئيسية... 1-الاستشراق وفصل فيه حول مدى معرفة الغرب حول الشرق، تلك المعرفة الباهتة التي ألزمت الشرقي صفة الجاهل وغير عارف بمصالحه. وأن الغربي أكثر دراية بها هذا ما حاول تبريره بلفور لغزو مصر. وتحدث عن مشروعات عن مشروعين سبقا غزو نابليون لمصر. أنكتيل الذي ترجم الأفستا وترجمة الأوبانيشاد ومنها ربط بين الشرق والغرب فاكتسبت آسيا لأول مرة بعدا فكريا وتاريخيا دقيقا. ثم جاء وليم جونز الذي جاء بعد انكتي...more
Kraychik
The epitome of faux intellectualism. This man is likely the progenitor of contemporary "intellectual" supporters of Islamism and associated tyrannies and terrorists such as Tarek Ramadan and Rashid Khalidi. So many better critiques have already been written about this tripe in past decades so I don't feel much of a need to expand on it. If you're a leftist that worships at the altar of cultural relativism and sincerely believe that all people are essentially the same, then this book is for you....more
Josh
On reading my first impression was a petulant teenager wrote this whining screed of victimhood and irresponsibility. I was dismayed when I learned that he was over 40 years old when he had published this book and that it was upheld as the new model for studies of the middle east/near east. It may have created a new perspective within the field, but if creating a new word to lambast your enemies, your critics, and silence opposition is "new thinking" then I wish no part of it. The rest of this e...more
Marcus Smith
If reading is a war this book is a worthy adversary. Of course, reading is not a war and therefore what this book is is a challenging and intellectual read. It is a bit heavy on references to specific scholars in the field of social science, history, and philosophy over a vast period and therefor far more accessible to those familiar with the field already but for those who, like me, are in the humble beginnings of scholarship, it is a worthwhile challenge. it has a lot to say even if you don't...more
Jehol
Un ouvrage polémique sur la perception de l'orient par l'Occident, qui relança le débat en Europe dans les années 1980. Un point de vue essentiel pour comprendre la position des anciennes puissances coloniales quant à cet orient qui fascina les Hommes lors des siècles passés. La récente réédition comprend une lettre testament de l'auteur, décédé au début de la second guerre du Golfe.
Michael.e.philpott
I started to pick at this foundational work while I was still in Iraq (2007). Things I saw from both Americans and Iraqis began to remind me faintly of some half-remembered ideas from Said's pen. Said's stated purpose of writing was to show how an intellectual study such as Orientalism can not be viewed independently from the influence of power dynamics on an author. Orientalism, he stated, responded directly to the West's need to possess and control an East that it considered inferior, doing so...more
John
More fun than Foucault, that's for sure. The reason being that while Said is also writing about a discursive regime, he analyzes how people made that regime. How the discourse was assembled and strengthened. And he allows for the possibility of breaking free of the "mind forged manacles" of the discourse, by critically examining it.
Orientalism, according to Said, is the way that the "West" (Europe, the U.S.), has considered the "East" (Asia). The West has used the East as an other, as a foil, t...more
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Edward W. Said was born in Jerusalem and raised in Egypt until his parents sent him to the United States in 1951.

Said graduated from Princeton University in 1957 and earned his Ph.D. from Harvard University in 1964.

He was a professor of English and Comparative Literature at Columbia University in New York and held his chair until his death at 67. His major interests w...more
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“The Orient and Islam have a kind of extrareal, phenomenologically reduced status that puts them out of reach of everyone except the Western expert. From the beginning of Western speculation about the Orient, the one thing th orient could not do was to represent itself. Evidence of the Orient was credible only after it had passed through and been made firm by the refining fire of the Orientalist’s work.” 15 people liked it
“فلم يكن القصد من وصف شخص ما بأنه شرقي، على نحو ما دأب عليه المستشرقون، ينحصر في الإشارة إلى أن لغة هذا الشخص وجغرافية بلاده وتاريخه من موضوعات الدراسة العلمية، بل كثيراً ما كان ذلك التعبير يرمي إلى الحط من شأن الشخص ويعني أنه ينتمي إلى سلالة دنيا من البشر، وإن كان ذلك لاينفي أن كلمة "الشرق" كانت ترتبط في أذهان بعض المبدعين مثل نيرفال وسيجالين ارتباطاً رائعاً وخلاباً بالغرابة، والبهاء، والغموض، والوعد، ولكن الكلمة كانت بمثابة تعميم تاريخي مغرق في شموله.” 7 people liked it
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