Dhalgren
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Read in December, 2004
recommends it for:
pomos, queer theorists, 60s counterculture obsessees, open minded SF fans, joycean techno-dreamers
This book is a whole world, part of the constellation of works that help me navigate my intellectual life. It's about the 60s, but it's also about metafiction, about solitude, and about that strange feeling when the dull and the surreal merge (late, late at night. when life has gotten one step too strange. when one more trudge down the street puts you into a reverie where you feel utterly lost).
In it, a nameless guy with a faulty memory (that's why he's nameless--though otherwise his recall ...more
In it, a nameless guy with a faulty memory (that's why he's nameless--though otherwise his recall ...more
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Dhalgren, by Samuel R Delany, has been my favorite book since I first read it in 1979. I have read it twice more since then and every time I've read it I got something different out of it. I've given the book away as gifts to several people but I don't think any of them appreciated it (oh well).
I recommend that y'all go to Amazon and read some of the reviews of Dhalgren there. It is interesting to read the long positive reviews by the "smart" people and it's also a laugh to read...more
I recommend that y'all go to Amazon and read some of the reviews of Dhalgren there. It is interesting to read the long positive reviews by the "smart" people and it's also a laugh to read...more
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Read in March, 2008
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Chrisrecommends it for: fans of sci-fi literature who I'm not worried will think I'm a pervert
I read this book because my home boy Buer from high school recommended it. And then my old roomie Jimbo gave me his copy of this book at his wedding. The conversation went like this:
Me: "I'll get this back to you when I'm done reading it."
Jim: "That won't be necessary. I never want to see this book again."
Quite ominous... The copy of the book I read had a forward by William Gibson. He is one of my favor...more
Me: "I'll get this back to you when I'm done reading it."
Jim: "That won't be necessary. I never want to see this book again."
Quite ominous... The copy of the book I read had a forward by William Gibson. He is one of my favor...more
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Read in July, 2002
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the adventurous and not-easily-frustrated
It's tough to review a favorite book, especially when it's a book that almost completely changed the way you view literature. But I suppose it's worth a shot.
Dhalgren is a glorious mess, but that's not to say that it lacks structure. In fact, I wrote my senior thesis in undergrad on the narrative structure of the novel, and upon close examination it's stunning just how carefully put together the whole thing is. Everyone knows that it's an imperfectly closed loop, but few really understand ho...more
Dhalgren is a glorious mess, but that's not to say that it lacks structure. In fact, I wrote my senior thesis in undergrad on the narrative structure of the novel, and upon close examination it's stunning just how carefully put together the whole thing is. Everyone knows that it's an imperfectly closed loop, but few really understand ho...more
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recommends it for:
Serious SF or Modernist Lit Readers
It's a tough call as to whether this is a 4 or 5 star book (rating things in such restrictive terms is hard enough to begin with...). While this book does have some flaws, it is nonetheless a remarkable meditation on a multitude of themes and has many passages of absolutely amazing prose. The first page contains one of my favorite paragraphs written in English. It is also the quintessential example of the application of techniques of (high) modernism to SF material.
The Kid(d) and Erne...more
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Read in October, 2007
Dhalgren is a terrible work of genius. By that, I mean that the mechanical writing of the text is brilliant and falls into the category of masterpiece. It is also a terribly dull read.
The structure of the novel is amazing: the narrative loops, the integration of mythology, the accurate portrayal of psychosis, the dazzling postmodern language, etc. Absolutely stunning work.
Of course, the characters are unbelievably boring, the story is filled with lots of meaningless babble with no actio...more
The structure of the novel is amazing: the narrative loops, the integration of mythology, the accurate portrayal of psychosis, the dazzling postmodern language, etc. Absolutely stunning work.
Of course, the characters are unbelievably boring, the story is filled with lots of meaningless babble with no actio...more
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Finished this apocalyptic fable of symbolic violence and weird sex about a month ago and it will not leave me alone. Read some stuff about it to try and find a context for it and wasn't really able to. Some think its a mess, well it is a mess. Nothing is resolved or explained, big chunks dont make sense, but its not a stream of conciousness thing, it just feels like half of the book is missing or something. Easily one of the top ten most remarkable experiences I've ever had reading a novel, but ...more
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Read in August, 2008
Dhalgren is about perception, but it is also about a lot of political and social issues that boiled up in the late 60's early 70's-- urbanism, racism, sexuality, social responsibility. Also hell's angels. Delaney is really into bikers. Some things- like the bikers and a lot of the slang- seem dated, but most of the issues dealt with are still very relevant today. For instance, it set me thinking about the way sexuality, race, and urbanism influence each other. In book club, we talked about Detro...more
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Read in January, 2004
First let me just say that I usually hate the "stream of consciousness" style of writing (I also don't like poetry, in almost any form). I find it almost always totally pretentious, the kind of thing that teens and people who are too old but act like teens are thoroughly impressed by, and want everyone to know about it. So this would not seem to be a book for me, and in the end it wasn't.
There were long passages of poetic rambling and vague descriptions of vague things. This ...more
There were long passages of poetic rambling and vague descriptions of vague things. This ...more
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Read in July, 1984
What did I learn from this bk?! Probably nothing.. but it's still one the greatest SF novels I've ever read. On the back-cover of my smoke-damaged copy there's a ball-point pen created arrow pointing to the publisher's blurb. This blurb consists of 10 lines. I scratched out the 1st 9. I can barely make them out:
"THE SUN
HAS GROWN DEADLY
THE WORLD HAS GONE MAD; SOCIETY HAS
PERISHED; SAVAGERY RULES
OVER ALL. ALL THAT WAS KNOWN
IS OVER, ALL THAT WAS FAMILIAR IS
STRANGE...more
"THE SUN
HAS GROWN DEADLY
THE WORLD HAS GONE MAD; SOCIETY HAS
PERISHED; SAVAGERY RULES
OVER ALL. ALL THAT WAS KNOWN
IS OVER, ALL THAT WAS FAMILIAR IS
STRANGE...more
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Read in August, 2008
Written in the 60s it reads like a sci-fi Pynchon or Joyce, about a mid-western city where some mysterious catastrophe took place and into which people arrive, looking for freedom. Many reviews tout the book's labyrinthine incomprehensibility along with its almost shocking questioning of issues of race, gender, and sexuality, which are certainly more than enough reason for anyone to pick up this tome. What really impressed me however were the masterful use of psychogeography and the fantastic, w...more
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Samuel R Delany's Dhalgren is a masterpiece. A commentary on modern society and how it views sex, poverty, crime, violence, drug use and many other perversions and delinquencies, but also deals with such heady topics like identity, narrative, even time itself (the city burns with a fire in certain blocks but is never consumed) creation (the main character gets three names, all of them potentially false), love, horror. Throughout it all a twisting narrative compels us to read on- even though the ...more
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Read in May, 2008
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Danrecommends it for: fans of modern science fiction
I liked this book quite a bit, but I don't know if I could say I enjoyed it. The writing is beautiful, and the "plot" is compelling, but there's a sort of sickly feeling that continually came over me while reading it.
The main character is in a prepetual state of change as the novel moves. He starts out as someone likeable and interesting, and continues being interesting, even as he becomes a less and less likeable person. The last chapter is written from his point of view and foll...more
The main character is in a prepetual state of change as the novel moves. He starts out as someone likeable and interesting, and continues being interesting, even as he becomes a less and less likeable person. The last chapter is written from his point of view and foll...more
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Read in March, 2008
If every book in my library has an antipolaric twin, this book is the dark twin of it's bright brother, Little, Big by John Crowley.
There are many paralells that can be drawn between the two novels: a fictional place isolated from the rest of the world, main characters as participants in events and rituals that provide a shadowy reflection of a larger background story, and an unexplained apocalyptic catastrophe that has led to the collapse of modern society.
In each novel, imagery and convers...more
There are many paralells that can be drawn between the two novels: a fictional place isolated from the rest of the world, main characters as participants in events and rituals that provide a shadowy reflection of a larger background story, and an unexplained apocalyptic catastrophe that has led to the collapse of modern society.
In each novel, imagery and convers...more
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Read in February, 2007
Finished Dhalgren before I got sick. The beginning and end were slow going for me and didn’t catch me like the middle. Or maybe it took awhile for my belief to be suspended enough to get drawn into this world. And the end’s change of mechanics to convey the story, a piecemeal representation of a journal, was too disjointed and the stories rather repeat of events that had already occurred. And the narrator knows it too.
I love the world: a city shrouded in fog and smoke, post-disaster eeking...more
I love the world: a city shrouded in fog and smoke, post-disaster eeking...more
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Read in June, 2007
This is categorized as classic sci-fi, but IMO it barely fits that genre. It's much more of a symbolism-filled, somewhat nonlinear classic piece of literature that just happened to be set in modern times. There's not much of a consistent story, so it's not the easiest read, but it's well worth the time. The story follows main character (known simply as "Kid" or "The Kid") as he lives in and becomes part of a dying city. It's a fictional city in California called Bellona(?...more
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A young man without a name explores a lost city with a beautiful woman and a plucky boy by his side. Here's why it's interesting:
- He's sleeping with both of them. In great, explicit detail.
- The lost city is actually a major American city abandoned after some unspecified disaster. It is strongly implied that this disaster was in some way caused by sex between a black man and a white woman.
- Most of the city's white/straight/middle-class population has left, except for the occasional tou...more
- He's sleeping with both of them. In great, explicit detail.
- The lost city is actually a major American city abandoned after some unspecified disaster. It is strongly implied that this disaster was in some way caused by sex between a black man and a white woman.
- Most of the city's white/straight/middle-class population has left, except for the occasional tou...more
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Read in August, 2007
recommends it for:
See below/William Gibson fans
Does this sound appealing to you?:
A parody of hippy culture, dressed as a light-on-plot 800-page circular science-fiction narrative about a bisexual, schizophrenic poet leading a street gang in a post-apocalyptic Midwestern city.
Maybe that grabs you.
Now, when your friends see you carrying this thick-ass book and ask you what "Dhalgren" is, do you want to say:
A parody of hippy culture, dressed as a light-on-plot 800-page circular science-fiction narrative about a bisexua...more
A parody of hippy culture, dressed as a light-on-plot 800-page circular science-fiction narrative about a bisexual, schizophrenic poet leading a street gang in a post-apocalyptic Midwestern city.
Maybe that grabs you.
Now, when your friends see you carrying this thick-ass book and ask you what "Dhalgren" is, do you want to say:
A parody of hippy culture, dressed as a light-on-plot 800-page circular science-fiction narrative about a bisexua...more
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Read in January, 1972
This has been one of my favorite books since I read it in the 1970's. I remember finishing it on a foggy afternoon, and starting right over from the beginning to read it again. (Since the book is crafted in the form of a moebius strip, you naturally find yourself at the beginning when you reach the end.) I have bought numerous copies, and given them all away. Now I have a strong urge to read it yet again. I hear there's a new edition out with a forward by William Gibson.
People apparentl...more
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recommended to Dave by:
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recommends it for: Nobody. Everybody.
What could possibly be written about this book that hasn't already been written?
Quite a lot I suspect.
This review, this one right here that you're reading right now, won't be complete. In fact, it -might- will change.
So what is Dhalgren anyway? A novel? A social commentary? Science fiction? No. Yes. It's all that, more and less. The book itself seethes with contradiction. It's too long. It's too short. It's a semiotic disaster attempting to portray a semiotic disaste...more
recommends it for: Nobody. Everybody.
What could possibly be written about this book that hasn't already been written?
Quite a lot I suspect.
This review, this one right here that you're reading right now, won't be complete. In fact, it -might- will change.
So what is Dhalgren anyway? A novel? A social commentary? Science fiction? No. Yes. It's all that, more and less. The book itself seethes with contradiction. It's too long. It's too short. It's a semiotic disaster attempting to portray a semiotic disaste...more
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